oil filter change on Universal M35B

[Dick Darrow]

How do those of you who have the Universal M35 engine change your engine oil
filter? Short of buying the remote lube oil filter for $295 what tools or
method do you use to remove and replace the oil filter? Any tricks, tips or
ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

Regards,
Dick (& Shirley) Darrow
"Cativa" NS30U #496
Sodus Bay, Lake Ontario USA

[Thor Powell]

My guess:

Use the filter look up tables to find what other vehicles use you filter type. IE my W21 uses the same filter as some Acura's. Makes sense as the Acura's have high compression engines....

The search for a remote that works with that vehicle. All you are doing is replacing the filter with a plate, hose and and new remote mounting plate.

http://www.tdperformance.com/products/?id=3315

2009/10/13 Dick Darrow <rda...@rochester.rr.com>

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[Joe Valinoti]

Nice link, Thor, thanks.  I did notice that it said not to use the regular relocation kits on boats or diesels but to use a different style.  Still trying to figure that one out.

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 
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[Edward Strazzini]

I use a strap wrench to loosen the filter and then a good baggie over the filter to catch leaking oil as I remove it by hand.  I've heard it suggested that after loosening, stab the filter with an ice pick to drain the oil into a proper receptacle before taking it off the engine.  I'll try that next time, actually next week.

Ed Strazzini

MANATEE, NS30U #503

Deltaville, VA

[Joe Valinoti]

Following received from one company concerning a remote filter set up -

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 
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Hello there, Joe

Thank you, for your interest in our TransDapt billet aluminum oil filter relocation kits for your Kubota marine diesel engine.

According to our information we found that the Kubota engine usually uses the 20mmX1.5 threads.

We also found that the recommended Fram oil filter part# PH3593A will also work and has the same 20mmX1.5 threads.

SORRY, but unfortunately we currently DO NOT offer an billet aluminum adapter with the 20mmX1.5" threads at this time.

We only have the regular cast oil filter kits with 20mmX1.5" but it is NOT recommended for the Marine Diesel engines.

You must using something heavy-duty grade.

Good Luck,

Hedman Performance Group
Customer Service

 

From: Joe Valinoti [mailto:joes...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:31 AM
To: TECHS...@TDPERFORMANCE.COM
Subject: Oil filter relocation

 I'm interested in purchasing one of your oil filter relocation kits.  I've not been able to figure out which one on your website.  The application is:

Westerbeke W27 diesel installed on a sailboat.  This is basically a 3 cylinder Kubota tractor engine.

 

Joe

[Dick Darrow]

Joe, this is the same information I'm coming up with for my Universal, the only game in town is Westerbeke. I stopped to talk with a Kubota dealer I know very well and he isn't familiar with a remote filter set up because they aren't a necessary item for the tractor industry. It becomes a "special" application for our MARINE usage and it comes with a BIG price tag because they know they have us by the short hair with our pleasure boats.

 

Speaking of filters, I bought a NAPA filter this fall because I was out of the Universal filters I normally use and it was half the price of the Universal, $7.69 + tax versus $15.99 + s/h. A friend who has the same engine as mine in his Niagara 35 has been using NAPA filters for years with no issues. I'm going to see how this works for me and I may continue using NAPA filters.

 

I don't think we'll see these aftermarket remote filter kits any time soon from anyone other than Westerbeke because they're too much of a specialty item. Make no mistake, there IS a difference between the automotive application and our marine diesel motors. I'm not about to experiment with something that's not prescribed by a "marine diesel doctor".

 

Regards,
Dick (& Shirley) Darrow
"Cativa" NS30U #496
Sodus Bay, Lake Ontario USA

 

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[Joe Valinoti]

One of these from this company will probably work, I just haven't had time to figure out which one.  They're made for diesels.

http://www.hamburgersperformance.com/products/Default.asp?id=3699&v=more

 

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 
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[Joe Valinoti]

The below list is composed of a little research that Thor Powell and I have done on alternatives to buying Westerbeke oil filters.  If anyone sees errors, or addiditions, please let us know.

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 
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Westerbeke Engines
Oil Filter Suppliers and Part Numbers

 

Westerbeke -      36918 (Old number is 30220)
WIX -                   51334
PUROLATOR -    L14459
FRAM  -              PH3593A
AMSOIL -           SFD20
BOSCH -             72168 (old) 3312 (new)
NAPA -               1334
DENSO -             150-1006

Fits following Westerbeke engines:

 

Diesel Engines  W 10 Two 
Diesel Engines  W 12B Two 
Diesel Engines  W 13 
Diesel Engines  W 13A 
Diesel Engines  W 18 
Diesel Engines  W 21 
Diesel Engines  W 21A 
Diesel Engines  W 27 
Diesel Engines  W 27A 
Note:  It also is the same filter for a 2003 Acura TL-S

[Bill Spencer]

You can add this to the list:

CARQUEST 85334

But what about comparative quality? Are all filters equal in quality
and design? Is there a reliability factor related to the bypass valve?

Should these questions keep one up at night?

Bill Spencer
LIONHEART, NS30U #352 Hyde Park, NY

[Thor Powell]

Hi Bill

I have found this site seems to have so interesting information. I am not aware of any "study" that has been done. 

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html


Cheers

Thor

2009/10/20 Bill Spencer <wjsp...@attglobal.net>

[Ron & Diane Schryver]

....and these MotoMaster 17-1723-6 and Pennzoil PZ-33

Ron

Ron & Di Schryver
ALPHA WAVES 30U 393 1987
Midland ON Doral Marine Resort
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Lake Huron Fleet
cell 416-254-6908
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[Lorie Simone]

hello Joe,

years ago I was given a list of optional oil filters, as I only use the fram ph3593A which works great, I have never used the other ones, so I don't know, but here is my list, no  duplicates from your list. 

 

Canadian Tire 17-17236

Yanmar 59206

Kralinator L 165A

PF 57 (25013451)

AC PF 1127

GM 12337532

88 - 92 Mazda 626

 

Lorie & Angie Simone
REVELATION NS30U #260
Kingston, ON
East - Lake Ontario
613 634 7457: Fax 613 634 2674

 

 

 

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[Joe Valinoti]

Well, I had a few additions and here is the latest in alphabetical order.  If you find anything wrong, let me know. 

 

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 
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Westerbeke Engines Oil Filter  and Part Numbers:

 

WESTERBEKE -  36918 (Old number is 30220)

 

AC -                     PF 1127

AMSOIL -            SFD20
BOSCH -              72168 (old) 3312 (new)

Canadian Tire -   17-17236
CARQUEST -       85334
DENSO -             150-1006

FRAM -                PH3593A
GM -                   12337532
Kralinator -         L 165A
MotoMaster -      17-1723-6
NAPA -               1334
PENNZOIL  -       PZ-33
PF 57 (25013451)
PUROLATOR -   L14459
WIX -                 51334
Yanmar -           59206

[Edward Strazzini]

I changed my oil and filter last week on my M35 (1989).  The Fram filter which I put on last year was very difficlult to remove forcing me to loosen the alternator bracket in order to gain sufficient clearance.  The Universal filter is shorter and went on easily and should come off easily too.   A strap wrench was need to loosen as well to tighten.   I didn't do the "ice pick stab" yet had very little dripping from the old filter, perhaps because I had drained sump the day before.

Ed Strazzini

MANATEE #503

Deltaville, VA

[Joe Valinoti]

Nothing but your hands should ever, ever be used to tighten an oil filter.  It certainly would account for why it would be hard to remove.  A shorter filter would also mean less filtration.

Joe Valinoti
IL GATTO  NS30U  #221
Sea Harbor Yacht Club
Oriental, NC 

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From: Edward Strazzini

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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: oil filter change on Universal M35B

[Lorie Simone]

agreed Joe,

I only hand tighten and loosen the filter, by hand also.

 

Lorie & Angie Simone
REVELATION NS30U #260
Kingston, ON
East - Lake Ontario
613 634 7457: Fax 613 634 2674

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[Brooks Bridges]

I'll bet it's because the oil had really cooled down (in the filter) so slower to drip (assuming you ran engine before draining oil).  I'll try this and change oil during a cool period then wait a day for the filter. Brooks Bridges SOLITUDE 30U 290 Cambridge, MD --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Edward Strazzini <svma...@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Edward Strazzini <svma...@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: oil filter change on Universal M35B