nonlinear waterfall

[Tibor Mikóczy]

Dear IMA Team!

We are trying to display a nonlinear waterfall ad in VMAP, here are the example xml-s:

VMAP:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<vmap:VMAP xmlns:vmap="http://www.iab.net/videosuite/vmap" version="1.0">

   <vmap:AdBreak timeOffset="00:00:05" breakId="midroll" breakType="nonlinear">

       <vmap:AdSource id="914c0566-4cec-45d7-922c-343fa3624f65" allowMultipleAds="true" followRedirects="true">

           <vmap:AdTagURI templateType="vast3"><![CDATA[http://.../waterfall.xml]]></vmap:AdTagURI>

       </vmap:AdSource>

   </vmap:AdBreak>

   <vmap:AdBreak timeOffset="00:01:26.000" breakId="midroll" breakType="linear">

       <vmap:AdSource id="366aeb7d-300b-4d04-af6d-1d441e9852f4" allowMultipleAds="true" followRedirects="true">

           <vmap:AdTagURI templateType="vast3"><![CDATA[https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640x480&iu=/124319096/external/single_ad_samples&ciu_szs=300x250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&cust_params=deployment%3Ddevsite%26sample_ct%3Dlinear&correlator=]]></vmap:AdTagURI>

       </vmap:AdSource>

   </vmap:AdBreak>

   <vmap:AdBreak timeOffset="end" breakId="postroll" breakType="linear">

       <vmap:AdSource id="789bf5f3-a842-4d0f-92a5-970e4300fe12" allowMultipleAds="true" followRedirects="true">

           <vmap:AdTagURI templateType="vast3"><![CDATA[https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640x480&iu=/124319096/external/single_ad_samples&ciu_szs=300x250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&cust_params=deployment%3Ddevsite%26sample_ct%3Dlinear&correlator=]]></vmap:AdTagURI>

       </vmap:AdSource>

   </vmap:AdBreak>

</vmap:VMAP>

waterfall.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<VAST xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" version="3.0" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="vast.xsd">

    <Ad id="1">

        <Wrapper>

            <AdSystem>DFP</AdSystem>

            <VASTAdTagURI><![CDATA[https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=480x70&iu=/124319096/external/single_ad_samples&ciu_szs=300x250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&cust_params=deployment%3Ddevsite%26sample_ct%3Dnonlinear&correlator=]]></VASTAdTagURI>

            <Extensions>

                <Extension type="waterfall" fallback_index="0"/>

            </Extensions>

        </Wrapper>

    </Ad>

    <Ad id="2">

        <Wrapper>

            <AdSystem>DFP</AdSystem>

            <VASTAdTagURI><![CDATA[https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=480x70&iu=/124319096/external/single_ad_samples&ciu_szs=300x250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&cust_params=deployment%3Ddevsite%26sample_ct%3Dnonlinear&correlator=]]></VASTAdTagURI>

            <Extensions>

                <Extension type="waterfall" fallback_index="1"/>

            </Extensions>

        </Wrapper>

    </Ad>

</VAST>

I've replaced all the url-s with url-s from the example ad tags page. 

The waterfall by the way works as expected, if the first vast url throws an error or returns no ads, the second one is displayed.

Our problem is, that after the waterfall, no other linear adBreaks are invoked by the player. If I seek to the end of the video before the nonlinear ad (before 5s), the midroll and postroll ads are displayed as expected, but if I let the player display the nonlinear ad from the waterfall, no linear adBreak is shown. I've inspected the page, but I can't see any requests in the network tab to the midroll/postroll VAST url-s. 

Can you please tell me, is this the expected behaviour? Or waterfalls should not be used with nonlinear ads? Or are we doing something wrong?

Thank you

Tibor

[IMA SDK]

Hi Tibor,

Thank you for reaching out to us. The only issue with your VMAP set up is that the non-linear ad is not an AdSense ad, causing the ad COMPLETE to never fire so that the SDK can load and display the subsequent ad break. If the non-linear was an AdSense ad, you would be able to set the forceNonLinearFullSlot field to true, that would force the ad to behave like a linear ad, the COMPLETE event would fire and the subsequent ad break would display.

Regards,
Arnaud Casame
IMA SDK Team

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[Tibor Mikóczy]

Thank you for the fast answer. This problem persists only with nonlinear ads in waterfall is that right? If I change the waterfall url to a normal nonlinear url, it works as expected, adbreaks play fine.. I looked up the forceNonLinearFullSlot setting, but that is not what I am looking for. I'd like the nonlinears to render as regular overlays, not as a full slot linear which can be skipped. Is that not possible? 

Thank you

Tibor

Dňa utorok, 6. augusta 2019 21:27:42 UTC+2 imasdkforumadvisor napísal(-a):

[IMA SDK]

Hi Tibor,

This is possible to display non-linear ads in a VMAP but the it will go off screen before the SDK displays next ad break. I simulated this situation using our non-linear ad which contains a waterfall extension in a VMAP, the non-linear ad displayed successfully and went off screen before the mid-roll. The extension element of type waterfall didn't prevent the non-linear ad from displaying.

[Tibor Mikóczy]

Hello Arnaud. It looks like the tags in your response were stripped, could you send it again please?

We already have VMAP-s with nonlinear and linear ads, and it works as expected. The problem appears, when the nonlinear ad is in a waterfall (nonlinear in waterfall prevents the linear adBreaks to display). Could you please send the example that you have tried?

Thank you

Tibor

Dňa streda, 7. augusta 2019 20:23:14 UTC+2 imasdkforumadvisor napísal(-a):

[IMA SDK]

Hi Tibor,

Please find attached the ad setup I have used to test the waterfall, it is simply your VMAP in which I replaced the first mid-roll's ad tag with our non-linear ad tag (contains extension of type waterfall).