ilugcochin has a new mailing list

[Pirate Praveen]

Hi,

Current mailing list of ilug cochin is locked by its moderator (all
members are moderated). So the community is ditching the old mailing
list and moving to librelist.com, a list service running on free
software and has no censorship (there is no owner and moderator for
this list and there is only a spam filter and bounce catching system).
If you want to subscribe all you need to do is send a mail to
ilugcochin at librelist.com and you will be asked to confirm your
email address by replying.

Spread the news around and tell any members of old mailing list you know.

Cheers
Praveen
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rules: laws and constitution.

[Pirate Praveen]

2014-04-19 21:32 GMT+05:30, Anivar Aravind <anivar....@gmail.com>:
> Have you tried to get access to the old list ? May be they will be willing
> to share its admin access . I think that need to be explored before
> creating a fork

Admins prefer silence to answering questions. I don't think there is
anything more to be one. For people still with hope, they can continue
efforts.

http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/2014-April/thread.html

[Pirate Praveen]

2014-04-19 21:39 GMT+05:30, Anish A <anee...@gmail.com>:
> Who all are community? Can you provide me link to IRC meeting log or
> mailing list archive about the decision making process taken place?

Do you read ilug-cochin mailing list? Go through the archives to see
the sequence of events that happened.

http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/2014-April/thread.html

> You can't decide for the community alone. I would prefer to fix the
> current issues and forking would be my last action to do.

Where were you when your fellow members were silenced? Did you ask any
questions when the new mailing list guidelines were posted? You are
free to do what you think is important.

What choice is left to you when you are moderated? When every single
person is moderated?

> This is an active FSUG in kerala. I don't want the efforts to split.

So what did you do till now to keep the effort together? Did you open
your mouth when Joseph John, Danial Jose, Sooraj Kenoth and everyone
else was moderated? Did you ask the reason for moderation? I was ready
to fight as long as I was allowed to talk.

I'm curious to know what would be your next move.

[Pirate Praveen]

2014-04-20 0:07 GMT+05:30, Anivar Aravind <anivar....@gmail.com>:
> Ilug cochin is one among Indian's oldest user groups. I think there is
> one more step left before forking .
> Can you speak to active community members like Sameer Thahir , Balakrishnan
> Pillai, Jay Jacob , Prince etc who volunteered and managed ILUG Cochin
> list before ?

yes, this was already explored. People talked to all of them on phone
(not sure of Prince and Vimal, but I know Sameer, Balakrishnan sir,
and Jay Jacob know the situation really well). They all chose to
remain silent.

my first mail on this topic was on April 12
http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/2014-April/006979.html

There was no response to this mail or any subsequent mails from me and
also other members. Phone conversations have been happening all of
last week.

When all members are moderated, without any justification or response,
the intention is clear, to silence any dissent.

>
> Or may be vimal joseph can help