Re: [rwandanet] MIHETO NI MUNTU KI ? - Analyse.

[JB Sibomana]

Byilingiro we,

 

Waramutse?

 

Kabango Vianney ibiganiro byose abikurikiranira kuri Rwanda-l kandi akaba ari naho abisubiriza. Kubera ko ariko ikibazo cye gifitiye n'izindi mbuga akamaro, bagiye batwihera ka kopi ntacyo byaba bitwaye.

 

Ahubwo dukwiye kwibaza uruhande Kabango uriya aherereyemo muri ziriya catégories ebyili Paul Kagame yaraye atangarije abanyarwanda (dore ko Paul Kagame atajya aripfana):

 

1. Abanyarwanda basohotse mu gihugu bibye;

2. Abanyarwanda batagira icyo bari cyo, batagira n'icyo bashobora kumarira u Rwanda (nka Colonel Patrick Karegeya).

 

Ese buriya Paul Kagame haba hari abandi Banyarwanda azi uretse bariya yashyize muri turiya dutebo twombi?

 

AKAMASA KAZACA INKA KAZIVUKAMO !

 

JB

---------- Original message ----------
From: Zephanie Byilingiro < byi...@hotmail.com>
Date: 7 juin 2006 05:49
Subject: [rwandanet] MIHETO NI MUNTU KI ? - Analyse.
To: Democracy_H...@yahoogroupes.fr, FOJ...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rwan...@yahoogroups.com

Ese ko numvise ko uyu Kabango Vianney yahagalitswe kandi akaba agikurura
impaka, yaba byibura yarasigiwe uburenganzira bwo gusoma ibyo avugwaho,
n'ubwo kubera igihano, atabona uko asubiza?
Niba ntarwo afite, kubwanjye mbona mwali mukwiliye kumushyira hasi akabanza
akarangiza igihano cye.
ZB

----Original Message Follows----
From: Ndahimana Joseph < jndahim...@yahoo.fr>
Reply-To: Democracy_H...@yahoogroupes.fr
To: rwan...@yahoogroups.com
CC: rwandanet forum < rwan...@yahoogroups.com>,  Democracy Human Rights
< democracy_h...@yahoogroupes.fr >
Subject: *DHR* RE : [rwanda-l] Re: MIHETO NI MUNTU KI ? -  Analyse.
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:17:10 +0200 (CEST)

Muvandimwe Kayijamahe,

  Nk'uko usanzwe ubikora analyse udukoreye kubyerekeye les mobiles et les
motivations de notre ami Kabango Vianney irimo ingingo nyinshi zagombye
guhamagarira buri wese mu Banyarwanda kwitabira umushinga ugamije
kurandurana n'imizi politiki zose zabaye intandaro y'amacakubiri mu Rwanda.
Kenshi Kabango arakabya, akerekana ko umuryango FPR nta kosa riwurangwaho,
yarangiza ati "Abahutu benshi ni abicanye".

  Kugeza ubu, ibitekerezo bya Kabango nabifataga nk'ibitekerezo by'Umututsi
wahahamutse, nzanakomeza nzirikane ko nk'Umututsi, Kabango n'umuryango we
bahuye n'ibibazo bikomeye.  Ariko sinzatezuka gushyigikira ko harekwa guhana
abaturage naho banyirabayazana bo mu nterahamwe no mu nkotanyi bigaramiye.

  Mes salutations fraternelles et à nous revoir.

  Joseph.

kayijamahe2000 <kayijam...@yahoo.com > a écrit :

Kabango,

Ntabwo nshidikanya ibyo uvuga ahubwo nahereye ukuntu uvuga nabi
Sendashonga, Rusesabagina et Bizimungu, naho ubundi uretse umuhutu
wishe n'umututsi wishe bose njye ndabanga.

Tito Kayijamahe.

--- In rwan...@yahoogroups.com , kabango vianney <kabangovianney@...>
wrote:
>
> Kayijamahe,
>
> Pour la nième fois ndakumenyesha ko ntanga abahutu; nanga abantu
bakoze génocide; pour ce biba ngombwa ko bibanza kungaragalira ko abo
bantu bayikoze koko.
>
> kayijamahe2000 <kayijamahe2000@...> a écrit :
>
> Netters,
>
> 1. Uyu mugabo Miheto mperutse kumubaza utubazo duke kuri
Rusesabagina
> ansubiza ko nta kintu na kimwe uyu Paul yakoze ureste gukora projet
> ya Bagosora muri 1000 collines.
>
> 2. Nasomye ukuntu yaba yararenganye bamwambura umwanya we muri OCIR
> numva atabeshya ko byaba bishoboka.
>
> 3. Uyu Miheto nubwo yakuwe ku kazi ke arengana cyangwa kubera
> amanyanga ntibimubuza gukomeza gucyeeza abamurenganyije.
>
> 4. Bigaragara ko Miheto ari umuntu ukunda kuyobora no guharanira
> imyanya. Ashobora kuba ari competent ikibazo ni uko atishimira
succès
> z'abandi bikamuviramo kubagirira ishyari n'inzigo. Ni cyo apfa na
> Rusesabagina cyonyine.
>
>
> 5. Uyu Miheto rero bigaragara ko yababajwe na génocide kimwe
n'abandi
> banyarwanda twese benshi.
>
>
> 6. Ikindi kigaragara ni uko génocide yahekuye abe yatumye yanga
> burundu ubwoko bw'abahutu ku buryo yaba Rusesabagina, yaba
> Sendashonga, yaba Bizimungu,... bose ni agatebo kamwe.
>
>
> 8. Ibi byose rero birivanga mu mutwe wa Miheto bigahinduka isupu ku
> buryo bituma agaragara nk'umuntu ufite indimi umunani mu kanwa.
Bamwe
> bati ni trauma ou surmenage, birashoboka.
>
> 9. Conclusion ni uko uyu Miheto asangiye ibibazo n'abanyarwanda
> benshi kubera ingaruka z'ibyabaye byose mu Rwanda kuva kera ku
ngoma
> ya cyami kugeza uyu munsi : UBUTEGETSI BUBI.
>
> 10. Miheto yari akwiye gufatanya n'abashaka ko système y'ubutegetsi
> bubi ihinduka igakora neza . Njye nemera ko kurwanya individus
atari
> solution, la solution ni uguharanira ko système iriho ihinduka ku
> buryo peu importe l'individu ugiye mu butegetsi adakandagira
> abaturage cyangwa ngo ajye hejuru y'amategeko.
>
>
> 11. Ce cas de Miheto nayita "A CASE STUDY" abakora mémoire
bakwigaho
> kuko ibibazo bye ni ibyerekana ingaruka z'ubutegetsi bubi
> bwakandamije abanyarwanda kuva u Rwanda rwabaho. Naho abanyarwanda
> turakomera, ari abazungu byabayeho ubu benshi muribo baba bari ku
> gasozi barasaze.
>
> 12. Miheto akwiriye kwiha ka pause ku buryo azagarukana ubuyanja ku
> rubuga (simvuga bwabundi bwa Pasteur).
>
>
>
> TITO KAYIJAMAHE.
 

--
« Mbwire gito canje, gito c'uwundi cumvireho» ("Conseils à mon sot, de sorte que le sot d'autrui en profite", Paul MIREREKANO, janvier 1961).


"The greatest thing in this world," said U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., "is not so much where we are, but in what direction we are moving."


"It is not truth that makes man great; but man that makes truth great."   (Confucius)

[JB Sibomana]

"En ce qui me concerne, kurengana, bikankulikirana kugeza ubwo abagize ipfundo ry'akarengane banyishisha mpaka bampimbiye ibindi byaha mu kazi privé nikoreraga, hagamijwe gusa kugirango igihe kitazagera nkagaragaza ukuli, binyereka ko ibibazo bitoroshye; cependant je ne désarme pas kuko naba mpemutse" (Kabango Vianney)

 

Kabango Miheto,

 

Kagire inkuru !

 

Ikibazo cyawe kirakomeye cyane...

 

Ese ahubwo ibyaha ukurikiranyweho ntabwo ari ibyo wakoreye muri OCIR Thé gusa, hari n'ibindi wakoreye mu kazi privé?

 

Vous avgwez !! (URAFISWE !!) wa mugani wa Didier Rugamba.

 

JB

---------- Origina message ----------
From: kabango vianney < kabango...@yahoo.fr>
Date: 7 juin 2006 17:40
Subject: RE : Re: [rwanda-l] Re: [rwandanet] MIHETO NI MUNTU KI ? - Analyse.
To: rwan...@yahoogroups.com

 

Jonas,

 

Umbwilire uwo mutegarugori ko nashinzwe kuyobora OCIR Thé fin 1995 nsimbura umuyobozi wayo wali umaze gufungwa afungishijwe na Président Bizimungu ubwe kuko hali impanvu zatumaga ababikulikiliye hafi bakeka ko aliwe wicishije Feu

Callixte Kamanzi; nyuma y'umwaka niba nibuka neza nibwo uwo mugabo nasimbuye yafungurwaga ababishinzwe bamaze gusanga arengana.

 

Jye aliko nashinzwe kuyobora OCIR nyuma yo gutsinda ibizamini (amapiganwa) byashingirwagaho icyo gihe ngo abantu bashignwe imilimo inyuranye muli Leta; mbese nubwo mvuga ko nagiye nsimbura uwali umaze gufunga, nagiye bidatewe n'uko uwo nasimbuye afunze; niyo aba adafunze tugakorana compétition hamwe n'abandi benshi, nabwo iyo ndusha abandi nali kumusimbura; ibi ndabivuga kugirango hatagira ukeka ko nange naba hali aho mpuliye n'iyicwa ry'uriya munyarwanda.

 

En revanche nyuma y'imyaka ibili nibwo nasimburwaga n'undi muntu bishingiye ku matiku agayitse; hali uwakeka ko nababajwe no kuva ku buyobozi bwa OCIR, oya nababajwe no kuzira akarengane aliko cyane cyane no kubona leta iyobowe na FPR-Inkotanyi ifata ibyemezo bishingiye kubuliganya.  Kuva ubwo nabonye ko hali dysfonctionnemnets zikwiliye kurwanywa.

 

Iyo mbonye umuntu wese ukubiswe inkoni nk'iyo nakubiswe nunva mbabaye; ni muli uru rwego mbabazwa n'abantu bajya bazira ubugambanyi bugaragara muli FPR (nahandi burahaba aliko kubera amélioration nifuriza iyi organisation politique ibyayo nibyo nkunze kwibandaho) ou alors muli leta tuyoboye, mulibo dufite hafi Dr Habamenshi, tulibuka Mugenga Joseph na Nkongoli (aba uko ali batatu muzi ko bafunzwe bazira amaherere); niyo mbonye uwo aliwe wese wandagajwe kandi nta audit professionnel yakozwe ngo tumenye niba ibimuvugwaho ali ukuli, mbona ko ntabashije kurenza urugo inkoni yankubise cyangwa yakubise ba mukeba comme on dit. Akarengane mu bantu na gaspillage des ressources humaines en général mu gihugu nk'urwanda mbona ko ali ikibazo réel kuburyo kili mu byihutirwa bikwiliye kwiganwa ubushishozi.

 

En ce qui me concerne, kurengana, bikankulikirana kugeza ubwo abagize ipfundo ry'akarengane banyishisha mpaka bampimbiye ibindi byaha mu kazi privé nikoreraga, hagamijwe gusa kugirango igihe kitazagera nkagaragaza ukuli, binyereka ko ibibazo bitoroshye; cependant je ne désarme pas kuko naba mpemutse.

 

Maniliho Jonas <Jonas.m...@tele2.ch > a écrit :

Bwana Ndolimana,

 

Hari umutegarugoli wabajije niba hari icyo watubwira ku rupfu rwa Callixte Kamanzi, witabye imana ahotowe mu gihe yari akungilije muri OCIR-THE ( kuko yari umucungamari igihe wowe wari umuyobozi mukuru ), hanyuma akaza kwicwa hashize igihe gito yandikiye Perezida wa Repubulika ibaruwa imubulira ko umutungo wa OCIR-THE urimo urigiswa.

 

Ese ubwo muri iyo barwa yaregaga nde muri mwembi, ko ari wowe nawe mwabazwaga mbere y'abandi ibyo uwo mutungo ?

 

Nizeye ko ugira icyo ubitubwiraho, mbere y'uko ufata ikiruhuko Madame Murebwayire yakugiliyemo inama

 

Jonas.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: kabango vianney

To: rwan...@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:13 PM

Subject: RE : [rwanda-l] Re: [rwandanet] MIHETO NI MUNTU KI ? - Analyse.

 

Nikozitambirwa,

 

Barakubeshyera kuko sinigeze mba membre wa form yawe, je dis ceci pour confirmer ton message.

 

DHR yo yireke, yampaye invitation ngo nitabire ibiganiro bihabere, ndayemera; niba rero umutumirwa yageze aho ahutaza nyili urugo nkuko Janvier agomba kuba yabiteye imboni, birunvikana ko Innocent yitabaye akoresheje ububasha ahabwa n'amategeko.

 

Ibyo kumpagarika cyangwa kunsezerera kuli forum ye rwose namubwira iki.  Amazi abili nashira nzabona yongeye kunyoherereza ubutumire; dans l'entretemps je ne prds rien, au contraire.  Njya mbona hali abinubira ko yabashyize kuli forum ye atababajije, jye kubera politesse aliko cyane cyane ko twigeze guhura tukamenyana byatumye numva ntamusaba kunvana kuli forum ye kuko byaba ali signe yo kutamushyigikira kandi nta mpanvu.

nikozitambirwa_81 <nikozita...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Mujaribu,

Wibeshyera RWANDANET. Uwitwa Kabango Vianney Miheto Tatien Ndolimana ntabwo yigeze yirukanwa kuri RWANDANET kuko atigeze ayibera umunyarubuga. Umuntu utarigeze yinjira kuri uru rubuga ashobora kurwirukanwaho ate? Yaba yararwirukanyweho na nde utari jyewe nyirarwo?

Niba witegereje neza, abamuvuga bose baha kopi RWANDA-L kugira ngo nyirubwite na we amenye ibimuvugwaho ndetse anasubize abamwibazaho byinshi.

Ikindi kandi, KUNYEREZA AMAFARANGA Y'IGIHUGU ntaho bihuriye na vie privée y'umuntu. Keretse rero niba vie privée tutayumva kimwe.

Wirirwe.

Abatabizi bicwa no kutabimenya.

Nikozitambirwa.

====================================================
"L'homme, à mon avis, se perfectionne par la confiance.
Par la confiance seulement. Jamais le contraire." (Mustafaj)
====================================================
--- In rwan...@yahoogroups.com , janvier mujaribu <jaribujan@...> wrote:

Hey Shame on you!!
Il est tres stupide guhagarika umuntu kuri Forums
zanyu mwarangiza muka engagea des debats et analyses
sur LUI!!Ceci releve d'une haute trahison de la part
de ceux qui ont planifie sa suspension car sachant
tres bien ce qui allait suivre!
Veuillez quand meme manifester un certain niveau de
maturite intellectuelle,grandizzez comme vous avez
toujours le monopole de vous appellez vous meme
ainsi!!
Ibyo muli gukora ntaho bitandukaniye na preparation
d'un genocide,kubanza mukambura umuntu uburenganzira
bwe agacecekeshwa,akagirwa umusazi,umurwayi,...
mwarangiza mugatangira kumubaga piece par
piece,ndabona muli dans sa vie privee,ejo muzagera ku
mugore we ,abana,aho avuka,ibyo yize,ibyo uyavugiye
mukabari....

Jyewe narinzi ko mumuhagaritse kwari ukugirango mugire
amahoro kuri Forum yanyu, none ndabona arimwe
mutangiye kuyibuza,en tout cas uyu mugabo agomba kuba
ari igihangange!

Erega ntimurimo kubaka u Rwanda na societe yarwo ili
tres dechiree ahubwo murarusenya namwe ubwanyu
mutisize,iyo analyse Psychiatrique mwayitahanye iwanyu
Rwanda ko yafasha amamiliyoni y'abantu bamerewe nabi
mukareka kuyibeshyeshya abantu hantu kurubuga ko
atariho bashobora kuvulirwa!

Janvier!

--- JB Sibomana sibomana.jb@... wrote:

> Byilingiro we,
>
> Waramutse?
>
> Kabango Vianney ibiganiro byose abikurikiranira kuri
> Rwanda-l kandi akaba
> ari naho abisubiriza. Kubera ko ariko ikibazo cye
> gifitiye n'izindi mbuga
> akamaro, bagiye batwihera ka kopi ntacyo byaba
> bitwaye.
>
> Ahubwo dukwiye kwibaza uruhande Kabango uriya
> aherereyemo muri ziriya
> catégories ebyili Paul Kagame yaraye atangarije
> abanyarwanda (dore ko Paul
> Kagame atajya aripfana):
>

> 1. *Abanyarwanda basohotse mu gihugu bibye*;
> 2. *Abanyarwanda batagira icyo bari cyo, batagira
> n'icyo bashobora kumarira
> u Rwanda (nka Colonel Patrick Karegeya).*

>
> Ese buriya Paul Kagame haba hari abandi Banyarwanda
> azi uretse bariya
> yashyize muri turiya dutebo twombi?
>
> AKAMASA KAZACA INKA KAZIVUKAMO !
>
> JB