Re: [DC] Meeting with the Co-Facilitators

[Amali De Silva - Mitchell]

Markus

Do you have the information you require for this piece, or is there something we should prepare for you please? 

It was an excellent IGF -  congratulations! 

Kind regards, 

Amali De Silva-Mitchell 

Coord DC DDHT

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025, 6:47 a.m. Markus Kummer <kummer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

We had en excellent meeting with the two Co-Facilitators. They listened, took notes and seemed genuinely interested! Collectively we made the point that the DCs would like to see their work reflected in the zero draft.

We were encourage to submit our comments and they made it clear that they would prefer one collective submission. After a  preliminary exchange of views among this present I suggest that we work on a collective submission. We should be able to agree that we want the zero draft to acknowledge that the IGF is more than just an annual meeting and to recognise  the intersessional work of the NRIs and the DCs and that they play an important part in furthering the objectives of the IGF. Each DC could then ad specific comments relating to the Elements Paper that would not reflect a consensus of all DCs. These comments could be attached as an annex to the consensus submission which would make clear that the specific comments reflect the opinion of the respective DCa.

Does this make sense?

Deadline for submitting comments is 15 July, but they indicated flexibility in this regard.

Best regards
Markus
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From: Markus Kummer <kummer...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 12:21 a.m.
Subject: Re: [DC] Meeting with the Co-Facilitators
To: Wout de Natris - van der Borght <denatri...@hotmail.nl>
Cc: dc <d...@intgovforum.org>

Dear all,

Many thanks to you all for contributing to successful DC collaboratory sessions, the DC main session and a successful presence at the DC booth!

Thanks also to Wout for following up on my brief note on the elements paper, but let’s not over-engineer our reaction to the paper. 

Our main point is clear and I repeated that at the High-Level meeting with the co-facs (the two Permanent Representatives of Albania and Kenya to the UN, not Zambia): we want the Zero Draft to make it clear that the IGF is not a stand alone annual meeting, but a year long activity that includes all the intersessional components including the DCs. I will share a draft for a chapeau by the end of this week. However, we will also have to wait for the draft of the proposed joint paper by the MAG and the LP and reference this paper. There is one question we have not (yet) discussed, should we also ask for a permanent mandate for the IGF? 

The elements paper if not just about the IGF - it covers a broad range of issues that are all covered by the DCs. I urge you to look at it closely and provide substantive comments in your respective area of competence.These comments will be added to the chapeau paper as an attachment - they will not be commonly agreed and may even contradict each other. We keep highlighting the diversity of the DC - this will be reflected in out contribution. This means we don’t need different deadlines for the individual contributions - if you provide a paper by 14 July we can add it and submit our DC input by 15 July.

It would be good however to discuss all this sometime next week. Through this email I am asking Roman to set up a doodle poll for a DCCG call - preferably towards the end of the week when we have a clearer view on the MAF-LP input.

Best regards

Markus

On 28 Jun 2025, at 14:59, Wout de Natris - van der Borght <denatri...@hotmail.nl> wrote:

Thank you, Markus, this makes perfect sense. First, I would like to commend all who made our DC sessions in Lillestrøm a success. We really managed to get our messages across in a strong and coordinated way, including with the ambassadors of Albania and Zambia.

To facilitate the process of responding to the Elements Paper, I have opened a Google Doc in which everyone can comment. For those who missed it. The Elements Paper is another step in the diplomatic/political process in the IGF renewal process. We have found that intersessional work is not referenced in there at all  (nor are the NRIs), as if the IGF is a once-a-year event and not an ongoing process. We need to change this and get our work recognised. Besides there may be individual parts that you may miss or disagree with in the individual chapters of the paper. Here's the link to the Elements Paper:

https://publicadministration.desa.un.org/sites/default/files/2021-04/2025/WSIS%2B20_ElementsPaper_20June.pdf

and here to the Google working document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YZF5-p6c7wzSxbOHnruZOYMpOtsQWTuPNM-5xQWT260/edit?usp=sharing

There are three topics in there:

1. Which DCs plan to participate in the process, deadline 2 July;
2. The joint statement, deadline 9 July;
3. Individual responses to the Paper per DC, deadline 9 July.

As we have very limited time, I have set strict deadlines for the coming one and a half week.

As I'm on holiday from 12 July, I cannot work on the final stage. @Markus Kummer, can I ask you and @Jutta Croll to finalise the doc on 11 July and submit it (or someone else who is designated)? Before that date I will be in Geneva at the WSIS +20 meeting and will endeavor to advocate the DCs as best as I can.

Let's make this work and make sure we get intersessional work to be recognised in the ensuing zero draft paper.

Kind regards,

Wout de Natris - van der Borght

Coordinator IS3C

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From: Markus Kummer <kummer...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2025 3:46 PM
To: dc <d...@intgovforum.org>
Subject: [DC] Meeting with the Co-Facilitators

 

Dear all,

We had en excellent meeting with the two Co-Facilitators. They listened, took notes and seemed genuinely interested! Collectively we made the point that the DCs would like to see their work reflected in the zero draft.

We were encourage to submit our comments and they made it clear that they would prefer one collective submission. After a  preliminary exchange of views among this present I suggest that we work on a collective submission. We should be able to agree that we want the zero draft to acknowledge that the IGF is more than just an annual meeting and to recognise  the intersessional work of the NRIs and the DCs and that they play an important part in furthering the objectives of the IGF. Each DC could then ad specific comments relating to the Elements Paper that would not reflect a consensus of all DCs. These comments could be attached as an annex to the consensus submission which would make clear that the specific comments reflect the opinion of the respective DCa.

Does this make sense?

Deadline for submitting comments is 15 July, but they indicated flexibility in this regard.

Best regards
Markus
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[Amali De Silva - Mitchell]

Amado and June

Please could you take a look at this for us as past MAG members, you are more experienced wirh this aspect ? 

Thanks Amali

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From: Markus Kummer <kummer...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2025, 1:29 a.m.
Subject: Re: [DC] Meeting with the Co-Facilitators

To: Amali De Silva - Mitchell <gphli...@gmail.com>
Cc: dc <d...@intgovforum.org>, IGF Dynamic Coalition on Data Driven Health Technologies <igf-d...@googlegroups.com>

Dear Amali,

As I said in my earlier emails, I will draft a text for the Chapeau which will reflect the common understanding we all agree on, namely that the IGF is more than a stand alone event, but a year long process with many intersessional activities, including the DCs.

What I suggested was that each DC look at the chapter of the elements paper that fall in their area of activity. Read it carefully and make specific comments that you feel should be reflected in the Zero Draft that will be the basis for the WSIS+20 outcome document. As each DC is different it is difficult to say more, except maybe that I advice against going too deep into the details. Only point out what you feel are glaring submissions.

I hope this helps.

Markus