Mice Profiler Video Loading Issues

[dgla...@u.rochester.edu]

Hello Fab,

I'm trying to work with the mouse profiler tracking software and the videos that I upload aren't working properly. I looked through some of the other posts for this plugin and I think I've controlled for most issues that arise. I originally had some success with the binary threshold and tracking mice on very short videos (<30 sec), though I still find the tracker to be a bit sluggish copying mouse movements. Even so, this program is the only one I have seen that tracks 2 mice separately without the need for tagging, and I'm really looking forward to using it.

When I upload a video, the full video does not actually load. I'm planning on using 12 minute or 16 minute .avi or .mp4 videos at 640x480. These are 100mb or less videos, but Icy takes hours to give me a smooth minute of video in the profiler. And as I upload it, the video size under 'Sequence Properties' (bottom right in attached screenshot) grows to several gigabytes of data. The video I was using to test is a 5 minute ~25mb video someone else posted on this forum. 

I've given Icy 14gb of RAM, running 64bit java and a 64bit system. My system is brand new and does not lag on other high-performance programs.

I looked for the SUPER program before and found the website and program to contain malware. Then I tried the googledoc account, which did not work (404 error). I've looked into Xuggler but not done anything with it yet. Instead I downloaded the Video Importer plugin by Thomas Provoost, which does load my video much faster. However, even this program uploaded the 25mb file and somehow added on about a gigabyte of information to a simple video file. 

I was hoping you could combine the video importer with the mouse tracking software to speed up the importing process on the mouse profiler tracker. I still don't understand why Icy is adding gigabytes of data to these videos as they load frame by frame. It is possible it may have something to do with the content buffer, but I can't figure it out. 

Any help or advice you could offer would be very much appreciated.

-David

[dgla...@u.rochester.edu]

Sorry for the reposting, the forum gave me an error twice and I hadn't realized it had posted.

[Fab]

Hi David,

First, sorry for the delay of my response.

I'm trying to work with the mouse profiler tracking software and the videos that I upload aren't working properly. I looked through some of the other posts for this plugin and I think I've controlled for most issues that arise. I originally had some success with the binary threshold and tracking mice on very short videos (<30 sec), though I still find the tracker to be a bit sluggish copying mouse movements. Even so, this program is the only one I have seen that tracks 2 mice separately without the need for tagging, and I'm really looking forward to using it.

When I upload a video, the full video does not actually load. I'm planning on using 12 minute or 16 minute .avi or .mp4 videos at 640x480. These are 100mb or less videos, but Icy takes hours to give me a smooth minute of video in the profiler. And as I upload it, the video size under 'Sequence Properties' (bottom right in attached screenshot) grows to several gigabytes of data. The video I was using to test is a 5 minute ~25mb video someone else posted on this forum. 

 

I tried to load your video through Mice Profiler tracker and it's working.
I think you tried to open the video with the general menu of Icy Open Image, in that case, Icy tries to load the entire video. That's why it took ages.
The mice profiler plugin has its own loader specific to video. It work best with DivX codec or Xvid codecs. The video you are loading are compressed with the Intel Indeo codec. So I can read some of them or piece of them but they are not officially supported. If you find the video is "jumping" or frames are identical from a time point to the next, or the video is simply freezed, try reconsidering the input.
 

I've given Icy 14gb of RAM, running 64bit java and a 64bit system. My system is brand new and does not lag on other high-performance programs.

I looked for the SUPER program before and found the website and program to contain malware. Then I tried the googledoc account, which did not work (404 error). I've looked into Xuggler but not done anything with it yet. Instead I downloaded the Video Importer plugin by Thomas Provoost, which does load my video much faster. However, even this program uploaded the 25mb file and somehow added on about a gigabyte of information to a simple video file. 

Super was cool indeed, but seems discontinued.
The video importer plugin is not related to Mice Profiler, but I am using the same code, so if it works with it, it should be ok if you load it through mice profiler.
 

I was hoping you could combine the video importer with the mouse tracking software to speed up the importing process on the mouse profiler tracker. I still don't understand why Icy is adding gigabytes of data to these videos as they load frame by frame. It is possible it may have something to do with the content buffer, but I can't figure it out. 

I hope loading through Mice profiler directly will solve your problem.

Best,