ICAT collaboration meeting - 25/11 @ 16:00 CET

[Andrew GOETZ]

Dear All,

we will have an ICAT collaboration tomorrow at 16:00 CET at this zoom link:

    https://esrf.zoom.us/j/92859065803?pwd=TWoza0FOUCtHbHFGT1p4bXlTQkJ6QT09

The following topics will be addressed:

(o) Update on the schema changes - Rolf (HZB)

(o) Add a direct relationship between FacilityCycle and Investigation · Issue #259 · icatproject/icat.server (github.com) - Tom (STFC)

(o) Update on developments - Developers

(o) News from sites - ALL

(o) Presentations for next meetings - ALL

(o) AOB

It would be good to hear not only from the sites in production but also from the new sites to know where they are and if they need any help.

CU tomorrow

Andy

[Alex de Maria]

Hi all,

I am wondering if people would be interested in having a series of meetings where every facility could show what they are doing and maybe their projects for the future.
Obviously, ICAT is playing a central role but the idea is not only talking about ICAT but also about software and projects orbiting around it: DMP, PID, ontologies, handling processed data, datagateway and UI, elasticsearch, logbook, sample tracking, data statistics dashboard, panosc API, etc...  
The 1-hour ICAT monthly meeting is probably too short to go into details so I'd propose to arrange them in a different time slot as we did for the DB discussions a few months ago.
I'd be happy to present what we are doing at the ESRF (and what we are trying to achieve) if someone is interested.

Hopefully, to be discussed in meeting in a few minutes,
Cheers,
Alex

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[Alex de Maria]

Hi all,

If not mistaken we agreed that ESRF will give a presentation on Thursday next week. I had in mind to give an overview about the whole data management system highlighting the technical and non-technical decisions with the pros and cons, the strengths and especially the weaknesses. The idea of these meetings is sharing knowledge and ideally learning from others (both from their successes and failures).  

So, I will go through all points I consider important like: data ingestion, data portal, logbook, sample tracking, etc...  with probably a short live demo.

If someone would like me to talk about a specific topic that you know we have implemented at the ESRF, please let me know.

Best,

Alex

 

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 14:23, Alex de Maria <dema...@esrf.fr> wrote:

Hi all,

I am wondering if people would be interested in having a series of meetings where every facility could show what they are doing and maybe their projects for the future.

Obviously, ICAT is playing a central role but the idea is not only talking about ICAT but also about software and projects orbiting around it: DMP, PID, ontologies, handling processed data, datagateway and UI, elasticsearch, logbook, sample tracking, data statistics dashboard, panosc API, etc...  

The 1-hour ICAT monthly meeting is probably too short to go into details so I'd propose to arrange them in a different time slot as we did for the DB discussions a few months ago.

I'd be happy to present what we are doing at the ESRF (and what we are trying to achieve) if someone is interested. 

Hopefully, to be discussed in meeting in a few minutes,

Cheers,

Alex

 

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 19:14, Andrew GOETZ <andy...@esrf.fr> wrote:

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[Alejandra Gonzalez Beltran - STFC UKRI]

Hi Alex, All,

 

Thank you very much for this – it will be great to hear your presentation with an overview about the whole data management system as you describe.

 

One topic that I would be interested in hearing is how you are dealing with BAG proposals and if they are having an impact on the data management pipeline – e.g. up to data publication and archival.

 

Many thanks,

 

Alejandra

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[Daniel Sánchez Gil]

Hi Alex,

I second Alejandra's question. BAGs are something that we haven't formally addressed yet in ALBA from a data policy standpoint and we'd like to hear more on how the ESRF is dealing with the issue.

I would also like to add a more technical question, which is how you are handling scalability for the system (ie.: whether you run several ICAT instances, what's the major bottleneck in your case).

On a more general note, have we decided on the time slot for this session or is it going to be the usual 16h CET slot? I'm trying to see if I can bring some of our Scientific Data Management people to the session, I'm sure they'll be very interested in the presentation.

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[Kevin Phipps - STFC UKRI]

Hi all,

 

Thanks Alex. I’m looking forward to learning more about developments about ESRF.

 

I would like to bring people’s attention to a new issue which I just added for icat.server:

 

https://github.com/icatproject/icat.server/issues/261

 

This is an addition to the DataPublications functionality introduced by HZB to resolve issue #200.

 

We would like, if possible, to get this additional functionality into the next release or at least the next minor release after that, but we need agreement from the collaboration before we can start work on it.

 

So please have a look and leave any comments. If there is time after Alex’s presentation and the resulting discussion next Thursday, maybe we can discuss it then. Otherwise it will have to wait until the January meeting, or perhaps even a separate meeting like the schema discussions we had over the summer.

 

Regards,

 

Kevin

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[Alex de Maria]

Thanks for the comments, I take note.

Alex

PS: about the BAGs, don't expect any miracle... :D

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