Can AtoM be installed into a webhosting plan environment ( eg like godaddy etc )
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aidan o driscoll
Mar 25, 2020, 1:02:18 PM3/25/20
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Hi Guys,
I realize AtoM is very much a self-contained system that uses an own built Web Server that you might host yourself BUT in many cases one might find a Webhosting plan environment might be way faster at serving the solution than ones own server on not so fast internet?
Plus in an environment like this you can have a frontend like using WORDPRESS and the like ..
I have noticed one offering for AtoM hosting here:
However as we already have linux based hosting I was wondering could we use that instead?
Cheers
Aidan
Dan Gillean
Mar 25, 2020, 2:30:56 PM3/25/20
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Hi Aidan,
There's no reason that AtoM couldn't be installed in a web hosting environment - really, it just depends on whether the hosting provider places any restrictions on certain packages or extensions being installed; and whether they offer installation and maintenance as a service, or will grant you CLI access to perform an installation yourself. I've heard of folks successfully installing AtoM on Amazon services, for example.
Artefactual offers its own AtoM hosting plans, described here:
We don't maintain our own servers, but use other hosting offerings (such as OVH for Digital Ocean, for example). So, when you arrange for hosting from us, we're essentially offering to manage installation, upgrades, ongoing technical support, nightly geo-redundant backups, etc for you as additional services on top of a generic hosting solution. You can certainly arrange for hosting on one of these platforms yourself, if you are willing and able to handle installation and maintenance, and the service offering allows you the access you need to do so. There are also several other companies out there offering AtoM hosting plans as well.
I'm not familiar with this particular Cultural Hosting service offering, but I will note that the RAM allocation (2GB in the Advanced plan) seems a bit low in these plans. In our Technical requirements documentation, we note the following:
For a frame of reference, Artefactual’s standard AtoM test/demo site deployment is a cloud VM with the following specifications:
Processor: 2 vCPUs @ 2.3GHz
Memory: 7GB
Disk space (processing): 50GB at a minimum for AtoM’s core stack plus more storage would be required for supporting any substantial number of digital objects.
That said, AtoM needs a lot of memory during installation, but you can get away with less after that, especially in smaller installations - so if the hosting provider is handling the installation, it may be fine.
Cheers,
he / him
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:02 PM aidan o driscoll <aida...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Guys,I realize AtoM is very much a self-contained system that uses a WAMP type Web Server that you might host yourself BUT in many cases one might find a Webhosting plan environment might be way faster at serving the solution than ones own server on not so fast internet?
Plus in an environment like this you can have a frontend like using WORDPRESS and the like ..I have noticed one offering for AtoM hosting here:However as we already have linux based hosting I was wondering could we use that instead?CheersAidan
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cultura...@gmail.com
Apr 7, 2020, 2:23:02 PM4/7/20
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Hi Aidan and Dan,
Second, to explain that we have decoupled the applications in up to 3 cloud servers (depending on the plan). So Elasticsearch and Gearman Job Server (are deployed is separated servers) can be shared in the most affordable plans. For that reason we can offer a starting plan that runs smoothly with only 2GB RAM. (Nginx + Mysql = web server + database).
My name is Samuel, from Cultural Hosting. I have noticed that the company was mentioned in this thread and just want to describe our hosting plans for AtoM (recently updated).
First at all, our hosting plan are deployed in cloud servers configured specially for running AtoM, which is installed by us. There is no other software installed. Aidanm although we also offer regular hosting with cPanel for CMS like WordPress, these plans are not suitable for AtoM as Dan pointed due its requirements, CLI task, upgrades,etc. and because no vendor will provide the specialized support that AtoM requires within regular hosting fees.
Second, to explain that we have decoupled the applications in up to 3 cloud servers (depending on the plan). So Elasticsearch and Gearman Job Server (are deployed is separated servers) can be shared in the most affordable plans. For that reason we can offer a starting plan that runs smoothly with only 2GB RAM. (Nginx + Mysql = web server + database).
For anyone interested in a hosting provider for AtoM, you can find more detailed information about our plans at the following link:
Best regards from Spain,
Samuel Fernández
Cultural Hosting | Web Services for Cultural Heritage Organizations
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Dan Gillean
Apr 7, 2020, 2:57:47 PM4/7/20
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Thanks for sharing this useful update, Samuel!
Best,
he / him
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dgm...@gmail.com
May 9, 2020, 6:35:26 PM5/9/20
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Hi, Aidan,
I can share my experience, in case it is useful. Please don't take as a recommendation to follow one path or the other because your needs might be very different from mine. :)
My hosting provider offers a cloud Linux server into which I can connect as root and install applications freely. It costs about 15 euro a month. it is more expensive than the typical more limited web hosting offerings but i can install AtoM and all its dependencies. This is an advantage for me but it is also more time and effort than going directly for an AtoM hosting solution.
This solution is fine for me, with a small database and a limited number of users and an even smaller budget... :)
Offerings like those by Cultural Hosting cost more money (although, I am happy to see that now there are more affordable plans!) but have the advantage that you can focus on the user work while they take care of the technical background, which can be an advantage in many situations.
Daniel
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