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Patrick Fry

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Jun 1, 2019, 9:29:56 AM6/1/19
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Hi everyone,

I am searching for high res images that I can source for a book about punch cards. Specifically I would love to find images of machines and cards in use. If anyone has any images or leads that would be brilliant.

Best,
Patrick

Carlos Abramo

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Jun 1, 2019, 10:17:41 AM6/1/19
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Patrick,
In a reasonable resolution, this is all I have
Will appreciate if you share with me what you get.
Carlos
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Bob Flanders

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Jun 1, 2019, 2:14:39 PM6/1/19
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Hi Carlos,

Those are some nice pictures. Maybe you can contact the National Museum of Computing in the UK. They have a working 1130 and can probably provide (or maybe take) some stills of a 1442 with cards in the hopper?


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Bob

Bob Flanders

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Jun 1, 2019, 2:15:15 PM6/1/19
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Oops .. meant to include Patrick on that one too.

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Al Kossow

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On 6/1/19 6:29 AM, Patrick Fry wrote:
> Hi everyone,
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> I am searching for high res images that I can source for a book about punch cards.

If you are writing a book, the correct term is "punched cards"

as in the book "Punched Card Data Processing"


Al Kossow

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Jun 1, 2019, 2:27:14 PM6/1/19
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and if you don't believe me, look at the text of:
https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/punchcard/

Patrick Fry

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Jun 2, 2019, 3:06:03 AM6/2/19
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Hi Al,

Duly noted, thank you. I will make sure we refer to them as punched cards from here on.

Best,
Patrick


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Patrick Fry

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Jun 2, 2019, 3:06:54 AM6/2/19
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Hi Bob,

I’ll do just that! Thank you.



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peter.vaughan

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Jun 2, 2019, 3:27:03 AM6/2/19
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See my website: http://www.ibm1130.co.uk

I'll see if I can add some more pics - I have a lot! but you can see videos of the card reader in action.

I would require any images used to be credited to me and The National Museum of Computing but other than that they are free to use (although a small donation to TNMOC would be appreciated)

Peter
TNMOC IBM 1130 restoration lead



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Jun 2, 2019, 12:33:16 PM6/2/19
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Hi,

 

You’re welcome…

I also remembered:

Card Needle

Card Saw

Card Punch Template

Card Filing Cabinets, with removable drawers to facilitate filing and moving between machines

Rolling Card Holders?

 

If I think of any more I will let you know…

 

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Al Kossow

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On 6/2/19 9:33 AM, chap.inc via IBM1130 wrote:

> If I think of any more I will let you know…
>


"chips" NOT "chad"



Peter Flass

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Jun 3, 2019, 4:47:43 PM6/3/19
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What do you call them _before_ they’re punched? ;-)

Robert Lerche

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Jun 3, 2019, 4:56:24 PM6/3/19
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Blank cards.  Or just "cards."

[Yes, I too get irritated by references to "punch cards" but it's a losing battle and fighting it would just show my age.  :-) ]


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What do you call them _before_ they’re punched? ;-)

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Dave Wade

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Jun 3, 2019, 4:57:33 PM6/3/19
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> What do you call them _before_ they’re punched? ;-)
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Like the Wikipedia page I am sure we used "punch cards" or "punched cards" interchangeably.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card

Dave

Peter Flass

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Jun 3, 2019, 6:38:14 PM6/3/19
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We also used to use “IBM card” or “Tab card”. I guess the last shows my age.

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Jun 4, 2019, 9:20:10 AM6/4/19
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I assume you will be covering all the IBM keypunches ( and attendant verifiers ) starting with the 010...
And the attendant Unit Record devices...
Also, assume you will cover IBM 1130 Column Binary and IBM 360 Column Binary, obviously Hollerith...
Don't know if you want to get into XEROX Column Binary...

Bob...

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Patrick Fry

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I will be doing my best to cover as many of the machines and card types as possible.
It all depends on what images and scans I can get hold of!


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Dave Wade

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Jun 4, 2019, 11:14:04 AM6/4/19
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I have a type 011 but its very rough. I will try and take some pictures

 

Dave

 

Paul Anagnostopoulos

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Jun 4, 2019, 6:55:12 PM6/4/19
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Here is one.

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Patrick Fry

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Jun 5, 2019, 5:02:34 AM6/5/19
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Thank you Paul. How would you like this credited/captioned?

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Here is one.

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Lee Ivy

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Jun 5, 2019, 2:40:08 PM6/5/19
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I would be interested in seeing your book when it is done! And I will look for some of the photos I took of the 1130 at a Vintage Computer Federation event a couple years ago.


Lee Ivy

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Jun 5, 2019, 6:46:26 PM6/5/19
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Here are the photos I took on Aug 6, 2016 at the Vintage Computer Federation event in Mountain View CA. The VCF folks might have better ones. If you go to http://vcfed.org/wp/about/ and send them a request, they might have much better ones. Good luck!


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John Pierce

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I have some good dslr pics of the innards of Carl's 1442 reader/punch from the West coast VCF meet a few years ago.   I'm camping in Utah now, I'll find them when I get home.

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Here are the photos I took on Aug 6, 2016 at the Vintage Computer Federation event in Mountain View CA. The VCF folks might have better ones. If you go to http://vcfed.org/wp/about/ and send them a request, they might have much better ones. Good luck!


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Eddy Quicksall

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Interesting, I never knew the history of the punch card. When I registered at UofM they used punch cards. For each class they had a tray with one card for each seat. We pulled one card from the tray to get a seat (that took care of any race conditions) then we took our cards to another desk where they would read the deck into an IBM 1401.

I still have one for chemistry. I guess I cheated some kid out of a seat (but who would want to take chemistry anyway?)

Eddy

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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:02:34 AM UTC-4, Patrick Fry wrote:
Thank you Paul. How would you like this credited/captioned?


I have no idea where I got it. Are you concerned about using old photos without credit?

~~ Paul

Lee Ivy

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Jun 8, 2019, 6:24:09 PM6/8/19
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My first memory of seeing a punched card was in about 1961 when my parents would drive on the New Jersey Turnpike. When we went thru a toll booth at the on-ramp, they gave us a card with mysterious holes punched in it. When we exited we gave them our card and they told us how much we owed. As a 6 year old kid I was fascinated by this. I found a page with an image of an old NJTP card and a few other early special purpose cards:

Dave Wade

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Short clip of my IBM 011 punch…..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogplYeEYzu8

 

its really old and tatty but it works…

 

Dave

 

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Doug Wegscheid

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Jun 8, 2019, 8:42:44 PM6/8/19
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that's cool.


On Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 6:52:07 PM UTC-4, Dave Wade wrote:

Short clip of my IBM 011 punch…..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogplYeEYzu8

 

its really old and tatty but it works…

 

Dave

 

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My first memory of seeing a punched card was in about 1961 when my parents would drive on the New Jersey Turnpike. When we went thru a toll booth at the on-ramp, they gave us a card with mysterious holes punched in it. When we exited we gave them our card and they told us how much we owed. As a 6 year old kid I was fascinated by this. I found a page with an image of an old NJTP card and a few other early special purpose cards:

 

 

 


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Hi everyone,

 

I am searching for high res images that I can source for a book about punch cards. Specifically I would love to find images of machines and cards in use. If anyone has any images or leads that would be brilliant.

 

Best,

Patrick

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Richard M Bender

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My contribution…….Dick

Clare Owens

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I have some color slides showing the IBM 1620 I was in charge of back in 1963, and a couple of other slides that show the double classroom that was the original home of the University of Buffalo Computing Center, which was originated in 1961.  I started there full time in May of 1962 and was their fourth employee.  UB became part of the SUNY system in 1962 or '63.  I'll look at them tomorrow and see which ones are worth scanning - assuming that my old slide scanner will still work...  Well, if not there's a place in town that will digitize 35mm slides.

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Patrick Fry

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Thanks very much Clare. These slides sound perfect. 



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Patrick Fry

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Wonderful! 
Do you think it would be possible to scan these at 600dpi?


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Patrick Fry

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Hi Paul - no worries about using old photos, just wanted to add a credit where possible. 
Thank you!


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Richard M Bender

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Scanned at 600 dpi..

     Dick

 

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John Pierce

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ok, maybe they aren't all that great, they are handheld and the lighting was limited...

two similar views of the mechanisms of a 1442 card reader/punch machine, the standard record IO for the 1130 family.




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Patrick Fry

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Hi Richard,

Sorry but it seems google is compressing the file, it appears as a low res, 96dpi image when downloaded. Perhaps you could save directly to Google Drive? Or use WeTransfer?

Many thanks!



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Patrick Fry

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Thanks for finding these John! Very interesting to see the inner mechanisms.



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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:53 AM Patrick Fry <frypa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for finding these John! Very interesting to see the inner mechanisms.


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ok, maybe they aren't all that great, they are handheld and the lighting was limited...

two similar views of the mechanisms of a 1442 card reader/punch machine, the standard record IO for the 1130 family.




to explain that card path....

the input card hopper is visible on the left, a new card gets pushed into the path, then on command, moves left to right in the picture.   first it goes through the optical reader,   the card punch is under the metal cover that has the instructions for unjamming (punch jams were very rare, this was a very reliable machine), then at the right after the punch. the card is ejected away from the picture into the output hopper selector, and one of the 2 hoppers.
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