Test Point log property bag

[MikeR]

I’m attempting to grab the instantaneous value of a set of parameters
at the onset of a Test Point and add those values into the Test Point
Log. I’ve preloaded the config with the test points, but when I click
on/off the test point I can’t get Test Point Log property bag to
populate with various parameter’s values. I was hoping the property
bag in the Test Point Log was similar to the property bag of the Test
Events Log…but I can’t get them to behave the same. Any thoughts?
Thanks.

[Eileen Suszek]

I cannot think of a nice easy way to grab a single value and have it
log.... What about coming up with a VB script that can handle this?
You can also use the Latch Function, but that doesn't give you logging
capibility. Can I ask you "why" you want to capture just that single
value(s) when the test point is started? In other words, what are you
trying to do?

Eileen

[James Bretz]

You might want to try the Dragging the parameters into the TestPoint log.

I think it's refered to as "Log Augmentation" in the help file, but it's
been a long time since I've used this,
Jim

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From: "Eileen Suszek" <eil...@iads-soft.com>
To: "IADS" <ia...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag

I cannot think of a nice easy way to grab a single value and have it
log.... What about coming up with a VB script that can handle this?
You can also use the Latch Function, but that doesn't give you logging
capibility. Can I ask you "why" you want to capture just that single
value(s) when the test point is started? In other words, what are you
trying to do?

Eileen

On Oct 13, 9:19 am, MikeR <flyfisher...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I�m attempting to grab the instantaneous value of a set of parameters

> at the onset of a Test Point and add those values into the Test Point

> Log. I�ve preloaded the config with the test points, but when I click
> on/off the test point I can�t get Test Point Log property bag to
> populate with various parameter�s values. I was hoping the property

> bag in the Test Point Log was similar to the property bag of the Test

> Events Log�but I can�t get them to behave the same. Any thoughts?
> Thanks.

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[Brenda Rasmussen]

HI Mike,

Unfortunately it looks like the log augmentation for the Test Point
log is broken. You should have been able to drop the parameters in
the log so they would get appended in the PropertyBag column like you
mentioned. If it did work, it would have appended the parameter value
at the Stop time of the Test Point, not the Start time so it wouldn't
have worked they way you wanted. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Brenda

On Oct 14, 12:08 pm, "James Bretz" <j...@iads-soft.com> wrote:
> You might want to try the Dragging the parameters into the TestPoint log.
>
> I think it's refered to as "Log Augmentation" in the help file, but it's
> been a long time since I've used this,
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eileen Suszek" <eil...@iads-soft.com>
> To: "IADS" <ia...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:39 AM
> Subject: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag
>
> I cannot think of a nice easy way to grab a single value and have it
> log....  What about coming up with a VB script that can handle this?
> You can also use the Latch Function, but that doesn't give you logging
> capibility.  Can I ask you "why" you want to capture just that single
> value(s) when the test point is started?  In other words, what are you
> trying to do?
>
> Eileen
>
> On Oct 13, 9:19 am, MikeR <flyfisher...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > I m attempting to grab the instantaneous value of a set of parameters

> > at the onset of a Test Point and add those values into the Test Point

> > Log. I ve preloaded the config with the test points, but when I click
> > on/off the test point I can t get Test Point Log property bag to
> > populate with various parameter s values. I was hoping the property

> > bag in the Test Point Log was similar to the property bag of the Test

> > Events Log but I can t get them to behave the same. Any thoughts?

[MikeR]

Brenda:
Actually, if the Property bag worked as you described, it would have
been exactly what I wanted. See my example scenario below. Thanks
for the response.

Example scenario:
We have a master test plan with three test points: Point 1 is a level
flight, Point 2 is a climb, and Point 3 is a descent. These three
points are pre-loaded into the “planned test points” in the config.

During any given flight we have “record number” that begins each day
at a value of one and increments with each event we want to time
stamp. For example, Record 1 is engine start, Record 2 is take-off…
etc. We have a TPP parameter named RECORD whose value is equal to the
current record. Note that none of these are “test points”, but
rather discrete flight conditions we mark each day.

When we’re on condition for an actual “test point” (say Point 1 –
Level Flight) we initialize the Test Point Log with the “Start Test
Point” button and terminate when the point is complete. I need the
value of RECORD associated with that “test point”. The value of
RECORD is constant throughout the “test point”, so whether it’s the
initial value or end value is inconsequential.

99% of our post-test analysis is done outside of IADS due to tools
we’ve built/implemented prior to the release of IADS. This is why
it’s essential that our technology folks have the RECORD stored with
the “test point” number in the log.

Any thoughts?
Thanks for the help.

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[Brenda Rasmussen]

Mike,

Thanks for letting us know what you're trying to accomplish.
Unfortunately, I can't think of any workaround right now that would
stamp that value into the log during your mission.

Some items you might want to look into that could work for you would
be Data Export on Test Point Stop (exports parameter values to a file)
or Data Group Export from the Test Point Log.

In addition, please check out our Downloads page
http://iads.symvionics.com/MainPages/DownloadsPage.htm for example
programs that can access the configuration and data files
programmatically. You might be able to write a program that will
extract the information that you need for post processing.

Sorry for the inconvenience. We will try to get the Test Point Log
Augmentation working in an upcoming release.

Brenda

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[Dan]

I have a need for this feature as well for the exact same reason - I was searching the IADS group for an answer when I came upon this thread.  Has there been any progress on this feature or does someone have a workaround?  I'm currently using version 7.3 and the "drag the parameter to the property bag column" still doesn't work (it does work for the Event Log however).  A VBScript would work for me but I have exactly zero experience with VB.  On a related note, once you drag a parameter to the property bag of the Event Log, how do you remove it?  I can't seem to remove parameters I no longer need from the property bag.

Thanks.

[Adam Chant]

Dan,
The way to remove parameters from showing up in the property bag for the event log requires you to hand remove it from the config file.

1.       Open up the config while in IADS and select the Groups and then Users table.

2.       Under the User for the name you are logged in under go to the PropertyBag Column.

3.       Remove any Parameters listed after the “\EMLogAug=” entry up to the next “\”

4.       Save Changes to all Tables in the Config

If you want them all removed the result would look something like this “\EMLogAug=\TPLogAug=…”

 

The only way to write a data value during an event marker is to use the event marker icon on the toolbar. The F1 key will not write the value to the property bag.

As of IADS 8.1 there is no change to the functionality of this feature.

 

Adam Chant

Symvionics, Inc.

IADS Application Engineer

(661) 273-7003 x 210

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:31 AM
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Subject: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag

 

I have a need for this feature as well for the exact same reason - I was searching the IADS group for an answer when I came upon this thread.  Has there been any progress on this feature or does someone have a workaround?  I'm currently using version 7.3 and the "drag the parameter to the property bag column" still doesn't work (it does work for the Event Log however).  A VBScript would work for me but I have exactly zero experience with VB.  On a related note, once you drag a parameter to the property bag of the Event Log, how do you remove it?  I can't seem to remove parameters I no longer need from the property bag.

Thanks.

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[Jim Bretz]

Dan,

 

Let’s back up a bit. Can you describe exactly what you need? Maybe we have a better solution you can use.... or perhaps we can help you to develop a script.

 

I bumped up the priority of the original request to add  this capability to the TestPoint log. We’ll try to get it in soon,

Jim

[Dan]

Jim-

Like the original author of this thread, I also have a Record Number (RECNUM) parameter that I would like to record the value of in the TestPoint Log property bag when recording test points.  Currently, I load the PlannedTestPoints table with my points for the flight, then record test points using the pull-down / button on the Dashboard.  If I want to record the value of RECNUM, I need to do it manually after the point is over.  If this feature turns out to be a script, it might be nice to be able to calculate other values and store those in the property bag as well, like average airspeed, average loadfactor, max loadfactor, etc.

Thanks.

[Jim Bretz]

Dan,

 

Ok, let me do some research and get back to you. We might be able to develop a test point plugin.

 

Jim

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[Jim Bretz]

Dan,

 

Sorry for the delay.

 

After pondering the problem a bit, I found that we already had a plugin to perform this operation. The only problem is that the plugin output it’s results to the EventMarker log (not sure why actually). I’ve updated the plugin and added a property (option) to direct it’s output into the currently active TestPoint. In order for this to work, I’ll have to get you the new dll (and you’ll have to install it on your machine). More on that later.

 

The plugin is called “Calculate Derived”. You can find it under the Dashboard (Right click on Dashboard’s TestPoint panel, select Actions On Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. This macro will allow you to calculate any parameter over the range of the TestPoint data. It fires off right after the TestPoint is complete and allows you to perform a whole host of operations... including outputting the value of the ‘RECNUM’ parameter... and average airspeed, average load factor, max load factor, etc... essentially anything you can put into an equation. More on this later.

 

To activate the feature:

 

1) Right click on Dashboard’s TestPoint panel, select Actions On Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. After you select select the macro, if you look back in the menu “Calculate Derived” should be check marked.

2) Open up the ConfigurationTool

3) Open the “Automation” folder in the left window pane

4) Click on the “Macros” table

5) Add a new row and set the Name column to “CalculateDerived” (no quotes)

6) In the same row, set the Arguments column to “\\OutputType=TestPoint\\Param1=RECNUM\\Param2=TpAveAirSpeed\\Param3=TpMaxLoadFactor” (no quotes)

7) Save your configuration (button on toolbar with multiple disk icons)

 

Now for some discussion. The Calculate Derived plugin gets it’s arguments from the Macros table. When it’s launched, it looks in this table for an entry with the name “CalculateDerived”. It then pulls the “Arguments” column from this row and uses it to drive the action.

 

Ok, let’s go through the arguments we added in step 6. Each argument is separated by “\\” in the string. The first argument OutputType tells the plugin to output to the current test point. Again, in order to make this work you’ll have to use my updated plugin dll. The subsequent arguments are the parameters that you want calculated (and output to the PropertyBag column of the TP) over the TestPoint start/stop time range. Param1=RECNUM tells the plugin to run the parameter RECNUM over the TestPoint and output the final result. In this instance, RECNUM will (hopefully) just be a constant, so the output will show the RECUM for the TestPoint. Now comes the fun.

 

Param2=TpAveAirSpeed

 

TpAveAirSpeed is just an arbitrary name for some derived parameter that will be built. You can change the name to whatever you want. The key is that this equation will run over the entire duration of the TestPoint, so if we can build the appropriate equations, we can get the desired results. In this case, you wanted to calculate the average air speed for the TP, thus the equation for TpAveAirSpeed parameter would be Avg( YourAirSpeedParam, 0 ). Notice that the second argument (numPtsToAverage) is set to 0. This denotes ‘infinite averaging’ or in this case ‘average over the entire TestPoint’. Because the length in number of points of the TestPoint is unknown, we set the number to 0 and let the plugin run the equation over the entire length. This same technique is used again to calculate the ‘max’.

 

Param3=TpMaxLoadFactor

 

The equation for TpMaxLoadFactor would be: Max( LoadFactorParam, 0 ). Are you starting to see the pattern? Basically, you can add any number of parameters in the arguments field and they will be calculated and output in the TestPoint’s PropertyBag field.

 

Again, I’ve added a request to go and clean up the TestPoint log parameter attachment issue. In that case, you would just build the derived parameters and drop them on the log.... a lot easier, but at least we have a workaround.

 

Now, the next question is how do I get you the updated dll? I can put it on your customer ftp site, but I need to know which company,

Jim

 

 

 

 

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[Dan]

Jim-

This sounds great and exactly what I was looking for - I can't thank you enough!  I work for L-3 communications so you could put the DLL in that FTP area or we could work out another method.  Thanks again.

Dan

[Dan]

Jim-

Yesterday the resources were finally available to me to test out this
plug-in however I ran into an issue trying to load it following your
directions. Once I copied the DLL to the proper directory and tried
to start the IADS client, I get the following error (for all three
macros):

"The plugin (IadsTestPointAddIns.CalculateDerived) was unable to be
created. Please ensure that it was properly installed or remove it
from the Iads ClientWorkstation AddIns registry tier"

After a little investigation, my throughts are that this might be
caused by a version mis-match - I'm running IADS 7.3 and the plugin is
for IADS v8.1 ? Any thoughts? Unfortunately, there were some delays
with our maintenance contract so I probably won't see version 8.X for
a couple months. Is there a version for 7.3 or do I need to wait
until I can upgrade to version 8.x?

Thanks,

Dan

On Mar 26, 7:00 pm, "Jim Bretz" <jamesbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> After pondering the problem a bit, I found that we already had a plugin to perform this operation. The only problem is that the plugin output it’s results to the EventMarker log (not sure why actually). I’ve updated the plugin and added a property (option) to direct it’s output into the currently active TestPoint. In order for this to work, I’ll have to get you the new dll (and you’ll have to install it on your machine). More on that later.
>
> The plugin is called “Calculate Derived”. You can find it under the Dashboard (Right click on Dashboard’s TestPoint panel, select Actions On Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. This macro will allow you to calculate any parameter over the range of the TestPoint data. It fires off right after the TestPoint is complete and allows you to perform a whole host of operations... including outputting the value of the ‘RECNUM’ parameter... and average airspeed, average load factor, max load factor, etc... essentially anything you can put into an equation. More on this later.
>
> To activate the feature:
>
> 1) Right click on Dashboard’s TestPoint panel, select Actions On Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. After you select select the macro, if you look back in the menu “Calculate Derived” should be check marked.
> 2) Open up the ConfigurationTool
> 3) Open the “Automation” folder in the left window pane
> 4) Click on the “Macros” table
> 5) Add a new row and set the Name column to “CalculateDerived” (no quotes)

> 6) In the same row, set the Arguments column to “\\OutputType=TestPoint\\Param1=RECNUM\\Param2=TpAveAirSpeed\\Param3=TpMaxL­oadFactor” (no quotes)

[Jim Bretz]

Dan,

Sorry for the troubles. The Iads version shouldn't matter with this
particular dll. Having said that, I did compile on a newer machine that
might be linking to Microsoft libraries not contained on your PC.

I made a second attempt at compiling and sent it the resultant dll to your
gmail address.

Let me know if you have further problems,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:16 AM
To: IADS
Subject: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag

Jim-

Yesterday the resources were finally available to me to test out this
plug-in however I ran into an issue trying to load it following your
directions. Once I copied the DLL to the proper directory and tried
to start the IADS client, I get the following error (for all three
macros):

"The plugin (IadsTestPointAddIns.CalculateDerived) was unable to be
created. Please ensure that it was properly installed or remove it
from the Iads ClientWorkstation AddIns registry tier"

After a little investigation, my throughts are that this might be
caused by a version mis-match - I'm running IADS 7.3 and the plugin is
for IADS v8.1 ? Any thoughts? Unfortunately, there were some delays
with our maintenance contract so I probably won't see version 8.X for
a couple months. Is there a version for 7.3 or do I need to wait
until I can upgrade to version 8.x?

Thanks,

Dan

On Mar 26, 7:00 pm, "Jim Bretz" <jamesbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> After pondering the problem a bit, I found that we already had a plugin to

> perform this operation. The only problem is that the plugin output it�s
> results to the EventMarker log (not sure why actually). I�ve updated the
> plugin and added a property (option) to direct it�s output into the
> currently active TestPoint. In order for this to work, I�ll have to get
> you the new dll (and you�ll have to install it on your machine). More on
> that later.
>
> The plugin is called �Calculate Derived�. You can find it under the
> Dashboard (Right click on Dashboard�s TestPoint panel, select Actions On

> Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. This macro will allow you to
> calculate any parameter over the range of the TestPoint data. It fires off
> right after the TestPoint is complete and allows you to perform a whole

> host of operations... including outputting the value of the �RECNUM�

> parameter... and average airspeed, average load factor, max load factor,
> etc... essentially anything you can put into an equation. More on this
> later.
>
> To activate the feature:
>

> 1) Right click on Dashboard�s TestPoint panel, select Actions On

> Stop->Execute Macro->Calculate Derived. After you select select the macro,

> if you look back in the menu �Calculate Derived� should be check marked.

> 2) Open up the ConfigurationTool

> 3) Open the �Automation� folder in the left window pane
> 4) Click on the �Macros� table
> 5) Add a new row and set the Name column to �CalculateDerived� (no quotes)

> 6) In the same row, set the Arguments column to

> �\\OutputType=TestPoint\\Param1=RECNUM\\Param2=TpAveAirSpeed\\Param3=TpMaxL�oadFactor�

> (no quotes)
> 7) Save your configuration (button on toolbar with multiple disk icons)
>

> Now for some discussion. The Calculate Derived plugin gets it�s arguments
> from the Macros table. When it�s launched, it looks in this table for an
> entry with the name �CalculateDerived�. It then pulls the �Arguments�

> column from this row and uses it to drive the action.
>

> Ok, let�s go through the arguments we added in step 6. Each argument is
> separated by �\\� in the string. The first argument OutputType tells the

> plugin to output to the current test point. Again, in order to make this

> work you�ll have to use my updated plugin dll. The subsequent arguments

> are the parameters that you want calculated (and output to the PropertyBag
> column of the TP) over the TestPoint start/stop time range. Param1=RECNUM
> tells the plugin to run the parameter RECNUM over the TestPoint and output
> the final result. In this instance, RECNUM will (hopefully) just be a
> constant, so the output will show the RECUM for the TestPoint. Now comes
> the fun.
>
> Param2=TpAveAirSpeed
>
> TpAveAirSpeed is just an arbitrary name for some derived parameter that
> will be built. You can change the name to whatever you want. The key is
> that this equation will run over the entire duration of the TestPoint, so
> if we can build the appropriate equations, we can get the desired results.
> In this case, you wanted to calculate the average air speed for the TP,
> thus the equation for TpAveAirSpeed parameter would be Avg(
> YourAirSpeedParam, 0 ). Notice that the second argument (numPtsToAverage)

> is set to 0. This denotes �infinite averaging� or in this case �average
> over the entire TestPoint�. Because the length in number of points of the

> TestPoint is unknown, we set the number to 0 and let the plugin run the
> equation over the entire length. This same technique is used again to

> calculate the �max�.

>
> Param3=TpMaxLoadFactor
>
> The equation for TpMaxLoadFactor would be: Max( LoadFactorParam, 0 ). Are
> you starting to see the pattern? Basically, you can add any number of
> parameters in the arguments field and they will be calculated and output

> in the TestPoint�s PropertyBag field.
>
> Again, I�ve added a request to go and clean up the TestPoint log parameter

> attachment issue. In that case, you would just build the derived
> parameters and drop them on the log.... a lot easier, but at least we have
> a workaround.
>
> Now, the next question is how do I get you the updated dll? I can put it
> on your customer ftp site, but I need to know which company,
> Jim
>
> From: Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:29 PM
> To: ia...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag
>
> Jim-
>
> Like the original author of this thread, I also have a Record Number
> (RECNUM) parameter that I would like to record the value of in the
> TestPoint Log property bag when recording test points. Currently, I load
> the PlannedTestPoints table with my points for the flight, then record
> test points using the pull-down / button on the Dashboard. If I want to
> record the value of RECNUM, I need to do it manually after the point is
> over. If this feature turns out to be a script, it might be nice to be
> able to calculate other values and store those in the property bag as
> well, like average airspeed, average loadfactor, max loadfactor, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:20:08 PM UTC-4, James Bretz wrote:
>
> Dan,
>

> Let�s back up a bit. Can you describe exactly what you need? Maybe we

> have a better solution you can use.... or perhaps we can help you to
> develop a script.
>
> I bumped up the priority of the original request to add this capability

> to the TestPoint log. We�ll try to get it in soon,

> Jim
>
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[Dan]

Jim-

I tried the new plugin you sent with the same error messages. Any
other suggestions? These are Windows XP computers running IADS 7.3
FYI.

Thanks,

Dan

[Jim Bretz]

Dan,

Try registering the dll.

1) Double click on the Dll
2) A windows box should popup asking you which program to run
3) Press the "Browse for file" button (or equivalent)
4) Go to C:\Windows\System32 directory and pick the "regsvr32.exe" file

When it registers, there is a dialog box that pops up. Does it say
"succeeded"?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:48 PM
To: IADS
Subject: [IADS] Re: Test Point log property bag

[Dan Warren]

No, I get "LoadLibrary (...\IadsTestPointAddIns.dll) failed - This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem".

Dan

[Jim Bretz]

Ok, sounds like you're missing some dll. Very strange.

Let me try having it recompiled on our official "build machine".

I'll send a new one in a bit,
Jim

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