Arson and the Left
John Hascall
[a few radical environmentalists using arson as a weapon of terror]
...
>terrorized their neighbors, and killed them. History did not smile on those
>Night Riders - the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. History will not smile on the
>current crop of people that emulate Klan techniques either. I know we have a
>lot of leftists in Iowa. I sure hope they can control themselves ...
Dan'L,
Do all righists shoot doctors in the face?
There are other brushes, you needn't pick the broadest one every time...
John
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Max565
>[a few radical environmentalists using arson as a weapon of terror]
> ...
>>terrorized their neighbors, and killed them. History did not smile on those
>>Night Riders - the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. History will not smile on
>the
>>current crop of people that emulate Klan techniques either. I know we have
>a
>>lot of leftists in Iowa. I sure hope they can control themselves ...
>
>Dan'L,
>
> Do all righists shoot doctors in the face?
>
> There are other brushes, you needn't pick the broadest one every time...
>
>
Huh?? Is this an admission that you are a radical environmentalist??
. . . Or just a leftist??
I'm completely missing the point about "shoot[ing] doctors in the
face??" Please explain.
God Bless,
Dan'L
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred cows. Thinking that
America is still a pretty good country, because we were able to survive eight
long years of a lying, cheating, lowlife, now-unemployed, president, Orenthal
J. Clinton.
Theodore Heise
John Hascall <jo...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
> If you really care, I would characterize myself as a fairly
> conservative environmentalist -- after all my father did work
> for the NPS many years back (in the early days of Arches and
> Bridges in Utah).
Are you familiar with Edward Abbey's writing?
Ted
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John Hascall
>John Hascall writes:
>>[a few radical environmentalists using arson as a weapon of terror]
>> ...
>>>terrorized their neighbors, and killed them. History did not smile on those
>>>Night Riders - the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. History will not smile on the
>>>current crop of people that emulate Klan techniques either. I know we have a
>>>lot of leftists in Iowa. I sure hope they can control themselves ...
>> Do all righists shoot doctors in the face?
>> There are other brushes, you needn't pick the broadest one every time...
> Huh?? Is this an admission that you are a radical environmentalist??
> . . . Or just a leftist??
Are you being obtuse on purpose?
Don't you think that linking all leftists in Iowa with the KKK
is painting with a pretty broad brush? Where do you go from
there -- the Nazis?
> I'm completely missing the point about "shoot[ing] doctors in the
>face??" Please explain.
There are radicals on both of the far ends of all polarizing issues,
whether they are burning Vail or shooting (abortion) doctors -- that
does not mean that there aren't plenty of decent, law-abiding people
who on the same end of the issue who deplore these peoples methods.
If you really care, I would characterize myself as a fairly
conservative environmentalist -- after all my father did work
for the NPS many years back (in the early days of Arches and
Bridges in Utah).
Whether I am a 'leftist' or not depends on the particular issue
and who you are comparing me against, I suppose. Fairly often
I find myself left of the Republican position and right of the
Democratic position.
In the news recently, however, curiously, I seem to find myself
to the right of George II -- who now that he is heading the
federales wants to increase the budget to the U.S. Dept of Education
-- given what I've seen of Texas schools this probably will
involve a national football curriculum, I suppose! :}
John Hascall
> John Hascall <jo...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>> If you really care, I would characterize myself as a fairly
>> conservative environmentalist -- after all my father did work
>> for the NPS many years back (in the early days of Arches and
>> Bridges in Utah).
>Are you familiar with Edward Abbey's writing?
Yes, in addition to my father working for the NPS,
my Uncle was administrator at Arches for many years,
and as you can imagine that part of Utah was a pretty
'small club' back at that time (before the uranium boom,
the uranium bust, and the idiot-bikers boom)...
Of course, we have dark sheep in the family too, another
of my Uncles was an engineer on the Grand Cooley Dam ...
Max565
> Of course, we have dark sheep in the family too, another
> of my Uncles was an engineer on the Grand Cooley Dam ...
>
>
Now THAT'S cool!
And, it's very disrespectful of you to impugn his character, if
that's what you're doing.
I view it this way: You hold serious admiration for a relative who
devoted his career to the National Parks Service, implying that he cared for
his environment, yet you imply less, somewhat disparagingly, about another
relative, who spent years obtaining an education in engineering, and devoted it
to the betterment of mankind, through a major engineering marvel. These two
diverse careers are both admirable, but you seem to want to separate them into
two distinct, opposing agendas. I certainly hope that the "dark sheep"
reference is with tongue firmly applied to inner, oral, mucous membranes.
Otherwise, you speak volumes about your exact position on the left, regardless
of your previous denials. <G> ;-)~
Theodore Heise
John Hascall <jo...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, in addition to my father working for the NPS,
> my Uncle was administrator at Arches for many years,
> and as you can imagine that part of Utah was a pretty
> 'small club' back at that time (before the uranium boom,
> the uranium bust, and the idiot-bikers boom)...
I haven't spent too much time in Utah, but lived in Flagstaff for
several years and spent some time backpacking in the Grand Canyon.
Desert Solitare was one of my favorite books. I must reread it soon.
> Of course, we have dark sheep in the family too, another
> of my Uncles was an engineer on the Grand Cooley Dam ...
<grin>
Theodore Heise
Max565 <max...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> And, it's very disrespectful of you to impugn his character, if
> that's what you're doing.
>
> I view it this way: You hold serious admiration for a relative who
> devoted his career to the National Parks Service, implying that he cared for
> his environment, yet you imply less, somewhat disparagingly, about another
> relative, who spent years obtaining an education in engineering, and devoted it
> to the betterment of mankind, through a major engineering marvel. These two
> diverse careers are both admirable, but you seem to want to separate them into
> two distinct, opposing agendas. I certainly hope that the "dark sheep"
> reference is with tongue firmly applied to inner, oral, mucous membranes.
> Otherwise, you speak volumes about your exact position on the left, regardless
> of your previous denials. <G> ;-)~
I can't speak for John of course, but his comment was made in the
context of Edward Abbey--a fellow who loved the canyons of the southwest,
mourned their loss to reservoirs, and would most definitely have
considered the work of John's uncle to be bad.
John Hascall
>> And, it's very disrespectful of you to impugn his character, if
>> that's what you're doing.
I don't think you've been listenting to what I've said lo these many months
-- reasonable poeple can disagree -- that doesn't impugn their character,
it means you think they are wrong (on some issue). No more, no less.
>> I view it this way: You hold serious admiration for a relative who
>> devoted his career to the National Parks Service, implying that he cared for
>> his environment, yet you imply less, somewhat disparagingly, about another
>> relative, who spent years obtaining an education in engineering, and devoted it
>> to the betterment of mankind, through a major engineering marvel. These two
>> diverse careers are both admirable, but you seem to want to separate them into
>> two distinct, opposing agendas. I certainly hope that the "dark sheep"
>> reference is with tongue firmly applied to inner, oral, mucous membranes.
>> Otherwise, you speak volumes about your exact position on the left, regardless
>> of your previous denials. <G> ;-)~
I do not disparage my Uncle's education (after all, our engineering
degrees are from the same University...) but I certainly can disagree
with his position on the water-politics of the West -- as in fact, I
do, and in varying degress, most of the rest of my family, thus:
'the black sheep of the family' (on this issue).
>I can't speak for John of course, but his comment was made in the
>context of Edward Abbey--a fellow who loved the canyons of the southwest,
>mourned their loss to reservoirs, and would most definitely have
>considered the work of John's uncle to be bad.
Apparently, my medication was off this morning too -- because it
was the Glen Canyon Dam -- and we all know how Ed felt about that!
Theodore Heise
>
> Apparently, my medication was off this morning too -- because it
> was the Glen Canyon Dam -- and we all know how Ed felt about that!
DOH! His quest.
Theodore Heise
Sorry to dredge up this blast from the past, but I was hunting
around for any information on Project Vincent back in the 1990 to
1993 era, and saw your name, John. Any objection to contact by
e-mail?
Ted (ISU chemistry grad)
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Theodore (Ted) Heise <th...@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
Theodore Heise
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, John Hascall wrote:
Sorry to dredge up this blast from the past, but I was hunting