Citing in Hypercities

[Shirley]

Hi,

I have some sources that I would like to cite on hypercities however,
I seem to be unable to do so. I was using the How To blog post on
citing hypercities but I was getting confused. The blog post mentioned
having unique codes. Would the codes be the footnote number?

When I insert the code: <citation refcode=”ref1“> and am suppose to
replace “ref1″ with the code, do I replace the quotes, the word ref
and the number or just the number?

I vaguely understand up to step 4 but after that, I am lost. Is there
any easier way to put in citations? Thank you.

Sincerely,
Shirley

[David Shepard]

Hi Shirley,

Refcodes aren't the footnote number; they're just an internal way for HyperCities to connect the link to the text that shows up, which is why they have to be unique. They can be the same numbers, though: for example, your document could look like this:

Commuters are compared to "petals on a wet, black bough"<citation refcode="1">1</citation> in Ezra Pound's In a Station of the Metro, an image that Stephen Carver finds thinks city and country<citation refcode="2">2</citation>.

Just replace the text "ref1" with anything you'd like--leave the quotes in, though; they're absolutely necessary. When I say the refcode has to be unique, I meant you just have to make up separate ones for every citation in each object.

Is it step 4 that's confusing, or step 5? Up to step 4, you're just creating the links to the citations. In step 5, you start entering the text that the user will see when they click on the footnotes. That has to go at the end of the document. Anyway, let me know what questions you have, and I can help.

Thanks,

David

--
David Shepard
Project Manager, Hypercities (http://hypercities.com/)
PhD Candidate, Department of English
UCLA

[Shirley]

Dear David,

Your clarification really helped and I managed to make a footnote that
is click-able. However, when I click it, my citation does not appear
but a window that says 'content for this citation could not be found.'
I followed to the end of step 5 of the How To so I am not sure what to
do next.

Sincerely,
Shirley Cheung

On Mar 17, 11:11 pm, David Shepard <shepard.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Shirley,
>
> Refcodes aren't the footnote number; they're just an internal way for
> HyperCities to connect the link to the text that shows up, which is why they
> have to be unique. They can be the same numbers, though: for example, your
> document could look like this:
>
> Commuters are compared to "petals on a wet, black bough"<citation
> refcode="1">1</citation> in Ezra Pound's In a Station of the Metro, an image
> that Stephen Carver finds thinks city and country<citation
> refcode="2">2</citation>.
>
> Just replace the text "ref1" with anything you'd like--leave the quotes in,
> though; they're absolutely necessary. When I say the refcode has to be
> unique, I meant you just have to make up separate ones for every citation in
> each object.
>
> Is it step 4 that's confusing, or step 5? Up to step 4, you're just creating
> the links to the citations. In step 5, you start entering the text that the
> user will see when they click on the footnotes. That has to go at the end of
> the document. Anyway, let me know what questions you have, and I can help.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Shirley

> <shirley.che...@macaulay.cuny.edu>wrote:

[David Shepard]

Hi Shirley,

Okay--it sounds to me like there's a problem with your CitationLIst. Can you cut and paste what you entered for step 5? I'd like to see what went into the "CitationList" part of the content.

Thanks,

David

[Shirley]

This is what I have:

<citationlist>

<citation refcode="1">John F. Kasson, Amusing the Million Coney Island
at the Turn of the Century (New York: Hill &amp; Wang, 1978): 57.</
citation>

</citationlist>

Sincerely,
Shirley Cheung

On Mar 20, 5:35 pm, David Shepard <shepard.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Shirley,
>

> Okay--it sounds to me like there's a problem with your CitationLIst. Can you
> cut and paste what you entered for step 5? I'd like to see what went into
> the "CitationList" part of the content.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Shirley

> <shirley.che...@macaulay.cuny.edu>wrote:

[Dave Shepard]

Hi Shirley,

I think the problem is that your citationlist isn't capitalized. It needs to be CitationList, like in the text. Can you try that and let me know if it works? I'm sorry, but the screenshot is wrong. We'll fix that.

Thanks,
David

Sent from my iPhone

[Shirley]

Dear David,

Capitalizing my citationlist does not seem to be working. I still have
the window that says 'content for this citation could not be found.'
Also, when I capitalized it to be CitationList and save and check back
on it, the CitationList becomes lowercase no matter how many times I
save.

Sincerely,
Shirley Cheung

On Mar 21, 11:22 am, Dave Shepard <shepard.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Shirley,
>

> I think the problem is that your citationlist isn't capitalized. It needs to be CitationList, like in the text. Can you try that and let me know if it works? I'm sorry, but the screenshot is wrong. We'll fix that.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

[David Shepard]

Hi Shirley,

Looking at your object in the database, I can see that there are several citationlist elements, when there should only be one at the end. Try getting rid of all but the last one, which is formatted correctly.

David

[Maciuika]

Hi David, Hi Shirley,

I have been experimenting with trying to add a citation, and boy, it's
HARD!

But assuming that doing this html procedure is the *best* way for all
HC users to have to enter footnotes into their objects, I feel I have
to learn how to do it. So far I have tried to make a sample footnote
in the collection Spring 2011: Shaping the Future of NYC > A Tale of
Two Castles > Object 6, which is called "View South to Castle Garden
1849. The third image inside that object, if I just clip and paste the
HTML code associated with that image, its caption, and the *intended*
footnote, reads as follows:

</span><br><br><img style="width: 354px; height: 347px;" src="http://
hypercities.ats.ucla.edu/uploadedImage/
Img_ea360b82f49c1aa98a1b06d4e9077b20.jpg"><br>Detail from John William
Hill's 1855 watercolor view from atop St. Paul's Church at the corner
of Broadway and Fulton Street.<br><br><br>
<citation refcode="1">1</citation><citationlist><citation
refcode="1">Ric Burns et al., eds., New York: An Illustrated History,
p. 97.</citation></citationlist>

I am experiencing the following problems: first, as with Shirley, my
attempts to write in capitalized form "Citation List" always gets
knocked back down to lower case after I save; second, I get no actual
footnote number in superscript or in any form at all in the object
after I save, so there is nothing there that a reader could 'click on'
to open the footnote.

Kindly advise if there is something I can do here - thanks David!

On Mar 22, 10:33 pm, David Shepard <shepard.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Shirley,
>

> Looking at your object in the database, I can see that there are several
> citationlist elements, when there should only be one at the end. Try getting
> rid of all but the last one, which is formatted correctly.
>
> David
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Shirley

> <shirley.che...@macaulay.cuny.edu>wrote:

[David Shepard]

Hi John,

Just got back and saw your email. I'm sorry not to have responded--I was out your way at a conference in Montreal. Sorry about the problem. Anyway, I looked into the database, and I think I found your problem. Your code for the citationlist element is this:

<citation list=""><citation refcode="ref1">Ric Burns et al., eds., New York: An Illustrated History, p. 97.</citation></citation>

It should actually be this:

<citationlist><citation refcode="ref1">Ric Burns et al., eds., New York: An Illustrated History, p. 97.</citation></citationlist>

Try this and see if that works.

Also, Shirley, can you tell me if my suggestion solved the problem? If not, then I'd like to keep investigating why this didn't work.

Thanks,

David

[David Shepard]

Hi John,

By the way, I wanted to agree--this isn't an ideal way to enter citations. A better interface is planned as part of a new project we're developing.

Thanks,

David

[Shirley]

Dear David,

I finally got the citations to work by deleting the multiple citation
list elements that you told me about. Thanks!

Sincerely,
Shirley

[Shirley]

Dear David,

I just realized today that while the citations work, when I click on
the citations, it shows the wrong one. All of my citations shows the
last cite that I wrote. Here is how my citation list looks:

<citationlist><citation refcode="1">John F. Kasson, Amusing the
Million Coney Island at the Turn of the Century (New York: Hill &amp;

Wang, 1978): 57.</citation><citation refcode="2">John F. Kasson,

Amusing the Million Coney Island at the Turn of the Century (New York:

Hill &amp; Wang, 1978): 58.</citation> <citation refcode="3">John F.

Kasson, Amusing the Million Coney Island at the Turn of the Century

(New York: Hill &amp; Wang, 1978): 59.</citation> <citation
refcode="4">John F. Kasson, Amusing the Million Coney Island at the
Turn of the Century (New York: Hill &amp; Wang, 1978): 62.</citation>
<citation refcode="5">John F. Kasson, Amusing the Million Coney Island
at the Turn of the Century (New York: Hill &amp; Wang, 1978): 111.</
citation> <citation refcode="6">"Coney Island - First Steeplechase,"
last modified April 1, 1998,
http://www.westland.net/coneyisland/articles/steeplechase1.htm</citation></citationlist></span>

[David Shepard]

Hi Shirley,

I looked at your object in the database, and it looks like you used the same refcodes for multiple objects, and refcodes have to be unique. It looks like you have two 1's and three 2's. Can you fix that and let me know if you still have problems?

Thanks,

David