Lets not be passive anymore: let's be active

[Gopinath Prathapineni]

Hi Members,

Now that we are all grouped in GTUG Hyderabad. I would like asking
each of you, about your interest in Google technologies and will you
like to be end user of Google technologies or you want to extend
Google technologies for the better web?

If you are interested in the later (I mean, developing with Google
technologies), can each of you publish the technology you liked most
out of all the APIs and why you liked it. So, this way, people
interested in particular technology group can discuss and debate on
addressing any of the problems that we have using the social web. I
mean developing solutions that people would enjoy and work better.

If you liked a particular technology, can you demonstrate in text ,
about what can be done and how its impact is going to be. In my
opinion it is high time we develop mind blowing applications based on
these numerous technologies in indic languages. We should be creating
content rich, fast, responsive web2.0 sites.

By the way, you already might be knowing that Google is promoting
internet adoption in India even through TV ads. They are running a
separate campaign through a specially designed bus and that has
finished touring Tamil Nadu.

So, in this regard, I request each of you to broadcast yourself and
your interests.Don't hesitate. Be yourself and together we are
powerful. We can build excellent solutions and hope we enjoy being on
the other side (application development. We are using these extra-
ordinary products of Google these days as end-users accepting EULA.
How about asking a user to accept our EULA?) .

[Gopinath Prathapineni]

I waited for replies on the topic I have posted. I have got a personal
reply and it has nothing about the questions that I have asked. I am
sorry about that. So, I think it is really better if I could reply to
my own post.

Coming to my favorite technology from Google, they are actually two
technologies. First one is Google Web Toolkit (GWT) that let us
develop no compromise Rich Internet Applications in the Java language
similar to using AWT and it will generate the browser specific
minified JavaScript code for all the modern browsers.
The other technology is Google App Engine (GAE) with Java language
support, which is Google's Cloud hosting environment.



Using the above two technologies (of course, Google eclipse plug-in
also. ), I have created a very small utility for base-64 encoding and
decoding and you can visit it at: http://base64coder.appspot.com/

Developing this base64 encoder-decoder was very much fun and end-to-
end in Java without leaving the comfort of Eclipse IDE. No worry about
anything. Cool. :) . And the cloud hosting is absolutely free until
you exceed a very good free quota.
It is a very small utility with very limited features and it took just
6 hours time for me to deploy this version (second version) of the
application. It uses XHR for contacting Google servers and there my
coding/decoding logic runs and sends information back. This is
developed as part of passing my time away. Why base64 coding
application? I developed it because I use it in my workplace quite a
good number of times.

Coming to problems that we can address using the web2.0 technologies,
there are many actually. India's web content is relatively very less.
Let's assume that it increases a lot in the near future and we would
also be contributing towards it. We can develop applications that make
use of Geo-location and local content being added by local users
(we2.0 angle) to solve many problems like making students self-reliant
by showing listings of part-time jobs and many more thoughts which may
come out of brain storming when we all meet together.

(Please Reply so that we will all gain something out of your mind)

On Jun 13, 4:10 pm, Gopinath Prathapineni <gopinath.in....@gmail.com>
wrote:

[askafriend]

Hey,

Me very busy did not see your post.. Here's my reply :-

1.) Excellent on the usage of GAE and GWT
2.) I am a great admirer of component based toolkits and i hate
javascript(just a personal opinion) so love GWT
3.) You will see lots of examples on GAE, GWT and Android from my end;
i am just not able to find time for myself these days but you will see
it soon
4.) You are right on the less 2.0 content but there are few sites that
are already doing it so it started.
5.) On your thought of EULA, I think we are still in Incubation so
lets not worry about it so early but we will get there

Hey Gopi would you like to post your base64EnDe and how you did it in
a small post here http://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/

Thanks,
Sachin


On Jun 15, 3:54 am, Gopinath Prathapineni <gopinath.in....@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Chandu]

Vow..
Missed some update on Google APP engine..
Good to know that it supports java now...was dissapointed intially
when it was unveiled with python suport.
Cant wait to see my first app in cloud.

On Jun 15, 4:02 pm, askafriend <sachinkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Me very busy did not see your post.. Here's my reply :-
>
> 1.) Excellent on the usage of GAE and GWT
> 2.) I am a great admirer of component based toolkits and i hate
> javascript(just a personal opinion) so love GWT
> 3.) You will see lots of examples on GAE, GWT and Android from my end;
> i am just not able to find time for myself these days but you will see
> it soon
> 4.) You are right on the less 2.0 content but there are few sites that
> are already doing it so it started.
> 5.) On your thought of EULA, I think we are still in Incubation so
> lets not worry about it so early but we will get there
>
> Hey Gopi would you like to post your base64EnDe and how you did it in

> a small post herehttp://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/

[Gopinath Prathapineni]

Hi Sachin,

Great response. Good to hear that you love GWT as I do. Great to hear
that you will present lots of examples on GAE, GWT and Android.
I am very much excited to post a comment on the blog but I am not
finding time for the past two days, even to reply to this thread. I
will soon share my experiences in a blog entry about that on hyd-gtug.
Meanwhile, you can visit my blog about it here: http://gwtgopinath.blogspot.com/

On Jun 15, 4:02 pm, askafriend <sachinkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Me very busy did not see your post.. Here's my reply :-
>
> 1.) Excellent on the usage of GAE and GWT
> 2.) I am a great admirer of component based toolkits and i hate
> javascript(just a personal opinion) so love GWT
> 3.) You will see lots of examples on GAE, GWT and Android from my end;
> i am just not able to find time for myself these days but you will see
> it soon
> 4.) You are right on the less 2.0 content but there are few sites that
> are already doing it so it started.
> 5.) On your thought of EULA, I think we are still in Incubation so
> lets not worry about it so early but we will get there
>
> Hey Gopi would you like to post your base64EnDe and how you did it in

> a small post herehttp://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/

[Gopinath Prathapineni]

Hi Chandu,

You will be excited to see the ease it is to use GWT and GAE through
eclipse plug-in. It will be a sure surprise and that I can promise
you.

[Sachin Kumar]

Yeah i know, getting the eclipse plugin to seamlessly collaborate with GWT and GAE has been the feather of these google techs, right click say deploy and it is there in the cloud (no fuss)

Gopi, may be we can find a way to integrate our blogs to gtug blog. Btw, Chandu is great with google gadgets.

Thanks,
Sachin

[sundarrajan mugunthan]

Hi Team...

@Gopi,Sorry that i couldn address your questions more clearly and straight. And adding to your statement reg future steps,yes Geo-location is gud idea,and when v speak of web2.0 am sure v need to consider RFIDs also in this(this will help a lot in some of those fields u ve mentioned like part time job or others..)

Looking forward from the grp to speak more.

Thanks and Regards,
Sundar

[Chaitanya Pramod]

the stuff abt GWT never gets to me though it seems so interesting and
possessing a lot of potential. can u please give me (a newbie) a low
down on GWT?

[askafriend]

Hi Chaitanya,

Think of it like this (in the words of Eric Schmidt, CEO Google )
"" Like Java is for WWW "Write once, Run anywhere"
GWT is for Browsers "Write once and Run on any browser" ""

If you are a java programmer and do not want to worry about javascript
doing your ajax and stuff, then you would like to try GWT as it makes
ajax with just java a breeze. The interesting aspect of this toolkit
is that it has a clever compiler that compiles java-to-javascript
optimized and so it just runs smooth in all browsers so no quirks and
no strings attached.

Gopi or I should be illustrating further on our blog http://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/
for the coming weeks till then you can hook yourself to
http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/ and pick up some great links
regarding GWT.

Keep asking
Sachin

On Jun 21, 10:46 pm, Chaitanya Pramod <kchaitanyapra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Chaitanya Pramod]

Thanx. that was very helpful. though a demo would be greatly
appreciated!

On Jun 22, 11:37 pm, askafriend <sachinkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chaitanya,
>
> Think of it like this (in the words of  Eric Schmidt, CEO Google )
> "" Like Java is for WWW "Write once, Run anywhere"
> GWT is for Browsers "Write once and Run on any browser"  ""
>
> If you are a java programmer and do not want to worry about javascript
> doing your ajax and stuff, then you would like to try GWT as it makes
> ajax with just java a breeze. The interesting aspect of this toolkit
> is that it has a clever compiler that compiles java-to-javascript
> optimized and so it just runs smooth in all browsers so no quirks and
> no strings attached.
>

> Gopi or I should be illustrating further on our bloghttp://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/
> for the coming weeks till then you can hook yourself tohttp://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/and pick up some great links

[Siva Shanmukh Vetcha]

Hello guys,

I am new to this group. Its really cool to have a Hyd GTUG. I am
currently in Chennai. I am more than interested in being a part of
this. The coolest of what I liked in google APIs is wave. Hold on.. I
didn't get to use it myself yet. I have read quite some about it on
code.google.com/wave. The idea for their protocol is really cool. I
have got some really good ideas for writing bots for wave. I have
written to Google requesting access to the sandbox wave system that is
currently running. I have other ideas too. But I don't have time right
now. Will post the rest later.

Bye

On Jun 25, 10:33 pm, Chaitanya Pramod <kchaitanyapra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanx. that was very helpful. though a demo would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> On Jun 22, 11:37 pm, askafriend <sachinkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chaitanya,
>
> > Think of it like this (in the words of  Eric Schmidt, CEO Google )
> > "" Like Java is for WWW "Write once, Run anywhere"
> > GWT is for Browsers "Write once and Run on any browser"  ""
>
> > If you are a java programmer and do not want to worry about javascript
> > doing your ajax and stuff, then you would like to try GWT as it makes
> > ajax with just java a breeze. The interesting aspect of this toolkit
> > is that it has a clever compiler that compiles java-to-javascript
> > optimized and so it just runs smooth in all browsers so no quirks and
> > no strings attached.
>
> > Gopi or I should be illustrating further on our bloghttp://hyd-gtug.blogspot.com/

> > for the coming weeks till then you can hook yourself tohttp://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/andpick up some great links

[Sachin]

Great most of the things are on hold due to lack of access rights to
Wave, which though is not been given to everybody n only those who
attended the google I/O get first ganda on it. All great guns of the
group are very busy which is really hampering the progress of the
group. Any ideas on giving students of colleges access and greasing
the community.

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Siva Shanmukh Vetcha <siva.s...@gmail.com

[Siva Shanmukh Vetcha]

Siva Shanmukh Vetcha,
Electrical Engg Dept.,
IIT Madras.
Ph: +91 99623 82872

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Sachin <sac...@gtugs.org> wrote:

Great most of the things are on hold due to lack of access rights to
Wave, which though is not been given to everybody  n only those who
attended the google I/O get first ganda on it. All great guns of the
group are very busy which is really hampering the  progress of the
group.  Any ideas on giving students of colleges access and greasing
the community.

I didn't understand your point? What access and which students of colleges are you talking about?
 

[Sachin]

No, what I meant was to have students  have Gtug for their respective colleges/univs and run the show. They are the power of any group with objective as such of this group.

Any student interested ?

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[Chaitanya Pramod]

I am, i study at National Institute of Technology, Warangal. What
plans do u have for us students?

On Jul 8, 10:23 am, Sachin <sac...@gtugs.org> wrote:
> No, what I meant was to have students  have Gtug for their respective  
> colleges/univs and run the show. They are the power of any group with  
> objective as such of this group.
>
> Any student interested ?
>
> Sent from my iPod
>

> On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Siva Shanmukh Vetcha <siva.shanm...@gmail.com

>
>
>
>  > wrote:
>
> > Siva Shanmukh Vetcha,
> > Electrical Engg Dept.,
> > IIT Madras.
> > Ph: +91 99623 82872
>
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Sachin <sac...@gtugs.org> wrote:
>
> > Great most of the things are on hold due to lack of access rights to
> > Wave, which though is not been given to everybody  n only those who
> > attended the google I/O get first ganda on it. All great guns of the
> > group are very busy which is really hampering the  progress of the
> > group.  Any ideas on giving students of colleges access and greasing
> > the community.
>
> > I didn't understand your point? What access and which students of  
> > colleges are you talking about?
>
> > Sent from my iPod
>

> > On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Siva Shanmukh Vetcha <siva.shanm...@gmail.com

> ...
>
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[sachin kumar anumula]

Let me be very clear, I or the group can provide you assistance with any of the technologies that got open-sourced under the google umbrella.

If you are looking for internships at google you need not go through here, you can directly apply at the google website; but if you want to be more creative and foster a new step ahead using google's frameworks we are ready to provide assistance.

Since we have no meetups that can occur in universities, you yourself can form the group like for eg:- NIT Warangal GTUG; you are free to do so and you would be able to get some good assistance on how to approach some of the complex issues pertaining to computer science.

Also if you have a project idea and do not know which to use we can push you towards using some of the better known frameworks and provide you support* during your projects lifecycle.

What I would personally like to see, is Indian students and specially those brilliant heads in your sort of institutions make it up to http://code.google.com/soc/.