It has a 3-pickup amplification system, built-in tuner, sympathetic
strings, outputs for various situations (1/4", XLR). It's old world
meets modern technology. Really hope to try and make some progress
learning how to play it otherwise I should consider giving it a good
home. Will consider selling it privately first before going on eBay.
Don't sell it. If you want to play bad enough you will succeed. You quite clearly have a good instrument and just need a little support to get up to speed. The hurdy-gurdy has a reputation of being difficult to play, this needn't be the case. Obviously you need to put in some time as with any instrument but with good guidence it is possible to reach a good standard. In many cases this can even be achieved without ever having to learn to read music.
I am sure there will be people on this list who could help and maybe even live close to you.
Philip G Martin aka Drohne www.drohne.co.uk --- On Mon, 19/12/11, Jake <jake...@gmail.com> wrote: |
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Agreed!
Where do you live? Maybe there are other players in your area who would like to get together.
JULIE BARKER <dro...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Don't sell it. If you want to play bad enough you will succeed. You quite clearly have a good instrument and just need a little support to get up to speed. The hurdy-gurdy has a reputation of being difficult to play, this needn't be the case. Obviously you need to put in some time as with any instrument but with good guidence it is possible to reach a good standard. In many cases this can even be achieved without ever having to learn to read music.
>I am sure there will be people on this list who could help and maybe even live close to you.
>
>Philip G Martin aka Drohne
>www.drohne.co.uk
>
>--- On Mon, 19/12/11, Jake <jake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Jake <jake...@gmail.com>
>Subject: [HG-new] May be selling my hurdy gurdy
>To: "hurdygurdy" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
>Date: Monday, 19 December, 2011, 7:05
>
>
>May have to sell my custom-made Volksgurdy hurdy gurdy next year if I
>can't learn how to play it. It was built around 2002 and cost almost
>$6,000. There was a two-year waiting period just to begin getting it
>built.
>
>It has a 3-pickup amplification system, built-in tuner, sympathetic
>strings, outputs for various situations (1/4", XLR). It's old world
>meets modern technology. Really hope to try and make some progress
>learning how to play it otherwise I should consider giving it a good
>home. Will consider selling it privately first before going on eBay.
>
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First off, Bruno, I take exception to some of your comments. As far as being “amazed how people have expensive instruments made for them, without knowing how to play them”: Would you rather I buy a cheap poorly-built instrument? And your comment: “I would have tried to rent one before coming to the conclusion of buying a $6000 instrument”: I was on this list when I was considering buying a hurdy gurdy and wanted to rent one. I don’t know anybody here who had a spare hurdy gurdy willing to rent to a perfect stranger. And, I didn’t know of any music shops that were renting hurdy gurdies. And, your presumption that “I guess for some people, money is no object” is really not just ridiculous, it’s stupid. If you have nothing positive to say, don’t bother giving your opinion. My mother left her children her savings account when she died and, if it wasn’t for that, I would not be able to afford a hurdy gurdy (even today).
I first saw a person (Don Heller) performing on a hurdy gurdy in the 1980’s and immediately fell in love with the instrument. Later saw Jake Walton playing a gurdy in NYC in a concert with Jez Lowe. I wanted to get a gurdy but didn’t have the money until my mother left me a portion of her savings.
I have over 50 musical instruments. Most are fretted instruments. The hurdy gurdy is a high maintenance instrument which needs a great deal of care. I’m sure if I put my mind and energy to it, I should be able to learn how to play it.
There are no local hurdy gurdy players in New Jersey. The nearest players are in New England. And, driving 3 to 5 hours for lessons would be difficult.
I just want to mention that Felicia's reaction was nothing unusual in
the situation. I've often done the same when people have opened
windows or doors next to my hammered dulcimer, as would anyone playing
a harp, khanun, valiha, or any other instrument that's similarly
sensitive to temperature & humidity change. (That included my violin
during the brief time that I tried using gut strings.) Stability and
ease of tuning are two good reasons why guitars and mandolins are so
popular.
What I've found with my gurdy in the 14 months I've had it is that the
more time I spend with it, the less time I have to spend adjusting and
tuning it. I was up to about 4 hours a day of gurdy time over the
summer, and could often just pull it out of the case, give each string
a quick tuning adjustment as I set it on the wheel, and I'd be off.
Now I'm lucky to get a couple of hours a week, and we're back to an
unpredictable time spent tweaking the bridges, cotton, rosin and
tangents every time I start. Some days I run out of gurdy time before
I have it where I want it. When that happens I just play a quick tune
on it (if there's time), whatever state it's in, before I put it away.
I'm confident now that, in the long run, any day I mess with it and
remind it what good set-up feels like is better than a day missed.
On Dec 19, 10:50 am, Christa Muths <christa.mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> I remember some years ago Felicitas Dale came to play in the U.K. I knew
> nothing about hurdies then. During the break I opened the window (which was
> next to her hurdy) because the air was very sticky. Felicitas ran over from
> the other side of the room, calling out: "Please don't open the window,
> please shut it. My hurdy doesn't like it!"
>
> I was totally confused and not quite sure wether I had heard correctly or
> wether she was somehow from a very different planet. ...
>
> Christa
Have you been to any hurdy-gurdy gatherings? I got started at the Over
the Water - a whole week of sharing the joys and frustrations of the
instrument with other players of all levels in a supportive community
where you can always turn to someone and say "Why is it doing this?".
Since then I've always tried to find other players or would-be players
wherever I go, for mutual encouragement and for sharing suggestions
and experience. I've found that to be a great help.
On 12/20/11, Jake Conte <jake...@gmail.com> wrote:
> First off, Bruno, I take exception to some of your comments. As far as
> being* *“amazed how people have expensive instruments made for them,
>>> --- On *Mon, 19/12/11, Jake <jake...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jake <jake...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [HG-new] May be selling my hurdy gurdy
>>> To: "hurdygurdy" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Monday, 19 December, 2011, 7:05
>>>
>>> May have to sell my custom-made Volksgurdy hurdy gurdy next year if I
>>> can't learn how to play it. It was built around 2002 and cost almost
>>> $6,000. There was a two-year waiting period just to begin getting it
>>> built.
>>>
>>> It has a 3-pickup amplification system, built-in tuner, sympathetic
>>> strings, outputs for various situations (1/4", XLR). It's old world
>>> meets modern technology. Really hope to try and make some progress
>>> learning how to play it otherwise I should consider giving it a good
>>> home. Will consider selling it privately first before going on eBay.
>>>
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Along with most bowed instruments, it takes a LOT of time and effort to
get it to sound well (we have all listened to the school evenings when
the pupils scratch their way through their violin solos, I think).
The HG is far more responsive to "how" it's played at a basic level than
many instruments - and we haven't yet got to the trompette - a whole art
in itself.
I found the biggest problem was turning the wheel at the right speed
when starting to play (going back to the same problem with kids and a
violin). It takes a leap of faith to turn it fast enough to produce a
good sound (and, of course, a lot of time to learn how much rosin to put
on it and to get it even).
You just don't get a proper sound until those things come together
(presuming the setup is OK of course).
I found a similar problem with Northumbrian small pipes in getting a
proper pressure up. There's a feeling of "take it easy until you know
how to play it which, of course, is the wrong way around as it will
always sound bad.
I do wonder if people who say how difficult an instrument it is to play
(we are talking general playing for fun here, not professional stuff)
could find out they could play in a matter of minutes if they had just
one lesson from a player.
We can easily forget the basic stuff as, once we have learned it, it's
quite natural.
Just a thought.
Colin Hill
On 20/12/2011 20:47, Elizabeth Gilmore wrote:
> Hi All, sorry, but WHAT is so high maintenance about a hurdy gurdy?
> as compared to any other wooden instrument with strings? Beth
>
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My gurdy is a 20+ year old Volksgurdy tuned in G/C with no bells or
whistles at all. Up until this last year it's been particularly
dependable despite the usual issues with gut strings, tangents and
humidity changes. This last year I spent most of my time on other
things and didn't get much chance to play it and right now it's being
a total pig about everything. Oh, well. Back to the grind stone...
Felicia.
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