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Arthur Neuendorffer
Aug 21, 2015, 3:34:30 PM8/21/15
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PUTTENHAM's (Conspiracy) List of Noble poets (1589):
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1) Edward, Earl of Oxford (1550-1604)
.
2) Thomas Sackville, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
. - Grand Master Freemason (1561-1567)
. {Stone Guild => Guildensteen}
.
3) Henry, Lord Paget, of Beaudesert ( -1572?)
.
4) Sir Philip Sidney (1554-1586) Oxford 'foil' &
. fellow John Dee(007) protegee with Oxford.
.
5) Sir Walter Raleigh (1552-1618) Jonson's boss
.
6) Master Edward Dyer (1543-1607) Rosicrucian
. {Rosenkreutz => Rosencrantz}
.
7) Master Fulke Greville (1554-1628) Sidney friend,
. classmate & biographer; stabbed to death by servant!
.
8) George Gascoigne (1525-1577) Oxford/Turberville mentor
9) Nicholas Bretton (1553-1625) Mary Sidney Pembroke friend
10) George Turberville (1540-1610) pioneer of blank verse
.
Master Edward Dyer for Elegie
most sweet, solemn, and of high conceit."
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Henry Peacham's The Compleat Gentleman (1622), outstanding poets
of Elizabeth's reign: "Edward Earle of Oxford, the Lord Buckhurst,
Henry Lord Paget; our Phoenix, the noble Sir Philip Sidney,
M. Edward Dyer, M. Edmund Spencer, M. Samuel Daniel,
. with sundry others; whom, *NOT out of ENVY* >>
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From: Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net>
Subject: Re: S.H.L.A.S.I.
Date: 1999/07/18
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.990716...@mail.bcpl.net>
Newsgroups: humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare
Art [Neuendorffer] and John [Shahan] still need to come up
with a demonstration that Rollett's proposed cipher is valid.
I'm not surprised you missed Spenser. Here is the 22-column array:
. TOTHE ONLIEBEGETTEROFTH
. ESEIN S VINGSONNETSMRWHA
. LLHAP P INESSEANDTHATETE
. RNITI E PROMISEDBYOVREVE
. R LIVI N GPOETWISHETHTHEW
. E LLWI S HINGADVENTVRERIN
. S ETTI NGFORTH
Notice the 5-letter string SPENS reading down the 6th column and the
ER reading up the first. Spenser was not only well-connected at court,
he was one of the finest sonneteers of the age, as was
the well-connected-at-court Daniel, whose name
is hidden in the 9-column array:
. TOTHEON L I
. EBEGETT E R
. OFTHESE I N
. SVINGSO N N
. ETSMRWH A L
. LHAPPINE S
. SEANDTHA T
. ETERNITI E
. PROMISE D B
. YOVREVER L
. IVINGPOE T
. WISHETHT H
. EWELLWIS H
. INGADVEN T
. VRERINSE T
. TINGFORT H
Can it be a coincidence that the two names Peacham
added to Puttenham's list were *Spenser & Daniel* ?
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On Wed, 12 May 1999, Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
<<What we have is a marginal note to a passage of praise
for *Spenser & Daniel* . Here's the main passage
(taken from *The Shakespeare Allusion Book* 1:23):
[Polimanteia 1595]
Let divine Bartasse, eternally praise-worthie for his weeks worke, say
the best thinges were made first: Let other countries (sweet Cambridge)
envie, (yet admire) my Virgil, thy petrarch, divine Spenser. And
unlesse I erre, (a thing easie in such simplicitie) deluded by dearly
beloved Delia, and fortunatelie fortunate Cleopatra; Oxford thou maist
extoll thy courte-deare-verse happie Daniell, whose sweete refined muse,
in contracted shape, were sufficient amongst men, to gaine pardon of
the sinne to Rosemond, pittie to distressed Cleopatra, and
everliving praise to her loving Delia:
This passage has baffled some other anti-Stratfordians. Some, including
Volker (who has perhaps never seen the words in context), imagine that
"Oxford thou maist extoll thy courte-deare-verse" is meant as praise of
Edward de Vere, but the passage clearly shows that Samuel Daniel (a man
of whom his alma mater, Oxford, could be justly proud, just as Cambridge
could brag on Spenser) and not Vere (who is not even mentioned) is
being praised here. [Slightly off-topic: note that Covell's use
of "everliving" contains no suggestion that Delia is dead.]
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. All praiseworthy. Lucrecia Sweet Shakspeare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
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The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. Al[L] prais[E]worth[Y]. Lucre[C]ia Swe[E]t Shak[S]peare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
[LEYCES.] 6 : Prob. in marginal note ~ 1 in 58,000
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The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary Sidney wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)
Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)
[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
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1 Peter 2:20 : For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye sha[L]l take it patiently? but if, wh[E]n ye do well, and suffer for it, [Y]e take it patiently, this is a[C]ceptable with God. For even h[E]reunto were ye called: becau[S]e Christ also suffered for us,
[LEYCES.] 24 : shortest [LEYCES.] in KJV
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. Lodge's Rosalynde: SALADYNES SONNET.
.
. If it be *TRUE* that heavens eternall course
. With [R]est[L]ess[E] swa[Y] and [C]eas[E]les[S] turning glides,
. If aire inconstant be, and swelling sourse
. Turne and returns with many fluent tides,
. If earth in winter summers pride *eSTRANGE* ,
. And Nature seemeth onely faire in change.
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[R.LEYCES.] 4 : Prob. in Sonnet ~ 1 in 200,000
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. If it be *TRUE* that our immortall spright,
. Derivde from heavenly pure, in wandring still
. In noveltie and *STRANGEnesse* doth delight,
. And by discoVEREnt power discerneth ill,
. And if the body for to worke his best
. Doth with the seasons change his place of rest.
.
. Whence *COMES* it that (inforst by furious Skies)
. I change both place and soyle, but not my hart ?
. Yet salve not in this change my maladies ?
. Whence growes it that each object workes my smart ?
. Alas I see my faith procures my misse,
. And change in love against my nature is.
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. P. Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses, (Golding)
.
. Too the Right Honourable and his singular good Lorde
. [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter, Baron of Denbygyh,
. Knyght of the moste noble order of the Garter etc.,
. Arthur Goldyng gent, wisheth continuance of health,
. with prosperous estate and fcelicitie.
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. Book 3 (Actaeon & Diana)
.
As soone a{S} with h{I}r scar{L}et whe{E}les ne{X}t morning bringeth light,
We will about our worke againe. But now Hiperion bright
Is in the middes of Heaven, and sear[E]s the fiel[D]es with fi[R]ie rayes.
T[A]ke up your toyles, and cease your worke, and let us go our wayes.
.
{SILEX-} 6
[EDRA] 9
.
http://www.nps.gov/features/yell/tours/fountainpaint/silexspring.htm
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140827.html
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The Damsels at the sight of man quite out of countnance dasht,
(Bicause they EVERichone were BARE and naked to the quicke)
Did beate their handes against their breasts, and cast out such a shricke,
That all the wood did ring thereof: and clinging to their dame
Did all they could to hide both hir and eke them[S]elves fro shame.
But Ph[E]be was of personage so [C]omly and so tall,
That b[Y] the middle of hir neck[E] she overpeerd them al[L].
Such colour as appear[E]s in Heaven by Phebus b[R]oken rayes
Directly shining on the Cloudes, or such as is alwayes
The colour of the Morning Cloudes before the Sunne doth show,
Such sanguine colour in the face of Phoebe gan to glowe
There standing naked in his sight. Who though she had hir gard
Of Nymphes about hir: yet she turnde hir bodie from him ward.
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___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 60
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
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[R.E.LEYCES.] shortest skip in KJV: 1491
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<<All which things must be wanting in my book, for neither have I anything to cite on the margent, or note in the end, and much less do I know what authors I follow, to put them at the beginning, as the custom is, by the letter of the A B C, beginning with Aristotle, and ending in Xenophon, or in Zoilus or *ZEUXIS*, although the one was a railer and the other a painter.>>
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http://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/lodge/lodge1.html
.
. THOMAS LODGE: Rosalynde. Euphues golden Legacie,
. found after his death in his Cell at {SILEX}[EDRA],
.
Did not Rosalinde content her Rosader? The
Forrest[E]r at this smiling, {S}hooke his head,
an[D] folding h{I}s armes made this merrie [R]ep{L}y.
*TRUTH gentle Swaine*, Rosad{E}r h[A]th his Rosalynde,
but as I{X}ion had Juno, who thinking to possesse a
goddesse, only imbraced a clowd : in these imaginary
fruitions of fancie, I resemble the birds that
fed them selves with *ZEUXIS painted GRAPES* ;
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. <= 28 =>
.
. T h e F o r r e s t[E]r a t t h i s s m i l i n g{S}h
. o o k e h i s h e a d,a n[D]f o l d i n g h{I}s a r m
. e s m a d e t h i s m e r r i e[R]e p{L}y*T R U T H g
. e n t l e S w a i n e*R o s a d{E}r h[A]t h h i s R o
. s a l y n d e,b u t a s I{X}i o n h a d J u[N]o,w h o
. t h i n k i n g t o p o s s e s s e a g o d d e s[S]e,
. o n l y i m b r a c e d a c l o w d
.
{SILEX-} 26
[EDRANS] 30 :
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http://deveresocietyaustralia.wordpress.com/silexedra/
<<Silexedra at Fisher's Folly of Bishopsgate was Edward de Vere's little writing factory full of his early band of frontmen.
This period lasted into the 1580s then he settles down with Elizabeth Trentham and only uses the perfect-match patsy, Guillem Shaksper, for his Shake-a-spear epithet.
The Silexedra motley crew included:
* John Lyly - "Euphues" - the first English novel with dedication to Vere;
* Anthony Munday - "Robin Hood" contribution, Munday also links into William Hall, "Mr. W.H." of the Sonnets dedication;
* Robert Greene - "Menaphon: Camilla's Alarm to Slumbering Euphues in his Melancholly Cell at Silexedra" (for some reason the full title including the allusion to 'Silexedra' is always left out by Stratos!) and its Preface by Thomas Nashe/aka Francis Bacon, "[Vere] will afford you whole Hamlets, I should say handfuls of tragical speeches", and Shake-scene = Theatre-scene - Edward de Vere's whine at Edward Alleyn, the real "upstart crow";
* Thomas Kyd - The Spanish Tragedy ("Hieronymo's mad againe" - the line chosen by TS Eliot for the end of The Waste Land);
* Thomas Lodge - "Rosalynde: Euphues Golden Legacy, Found After His Death In His Cell At Silexedra" (based on As You Like It);
* Thomas Watson (strato Kenneth Muir, notes in the history of the sonnet that after the work of Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey, known as the 'Father of the English Sonnet' - just happens to be the uncle of you guessed it, Edward de Vere - not much happened for some time until along came "Hekatompathia - Passionate Centurie of Love" in 1582 supposedly by Thomas Watson but guess who the dedication is to, and who has his finger prints all over it - you guessed it again, Edward de Vere - in 1582 Vere was 32, Shaxper 18 and some 10 years away from coming to London; indeed C.S. Lewis thought the erudite appended notes were more interesting than the sonnets; and need we say, no works were ever dedicated to the Stratford guy). Watson brought along a young Christopher Marlowe, leading to "Tamburlaine the Great", aka 'Timur the Lame'...>>
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. Early Oxford translations
.
. (1566) ADLINGTO(n)'s Lucius Apuleius' Metamorphoses
. (1567) A(r)T(hur) GOLDIN(g)'s Ovid's Metamorphoses
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. A(r)TH(ur) GOLD(i)N(g)
. TH(e) GOLD(e)N A(sse)
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. THE GOLDEN ASSE :
(Dedicated to *THOMAS [RADCLIF]fe, EARLE OF SUSSEX*)
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CHAPTER 30: http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/ga/ga32.htm
.
How the boy that lead Apuleius to the field, was slaine in the wood.
.
While I devised with my selfe in what *MANNER* I might end my life, the roperipe
boy on the next morrow lead me to the same hill againe, and tied me to a bow of
a great Oke, and in the meane season he tooke his hatchet and cut wood to load
me withall, but behold there crept out of a cave by, a *MARVAILOUS great BEARE*,
holding out his mighty head, whom when I saw, I was sodainly stroken in feare,
and (throwing all the strength of my body into my hinder heeles) lifted up my
strained head and brake the *halter, wherewith I was tied*. Then there was no
need to bid me runne away, for I scoured not only on foot, but tumbled over
the stones and rocks with my body till I came into the open fields, to the
intent I would escape from the terrible *BEARE*, but especially from the boy
that was *WORSE than the BEARE*. Then a certaine *STRANGEr* that passed by
the way (espying me alone as a stray Asse) tooke me up and roade upon
my backe, beating me with a *STAFFE* (which he *BARE* in his hand)
through a wide and unknowne lane, whereat I was nothing displeased, but
willingly went forwa[R]d to [A]voi[D] the [C]rue[L]l pa[I]ne o[F] gelding,
which the shepherds had ordained for me, but as for the stripes
I was nothing moved, since I was accustomed to be beaten so EVERy day.
[RADCLIF.] 4 : Prob. in THE GOLDEN ASSE ~ 1 in 152
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[RADCLIF.] shortest skip in KJV : 2344
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http://public.wsu.edu/~delahoyd/shakespeare/vere.html
SHAKE-SPEARE: EDWARD DE VERE, 17th EARL OF OXFORD
Dr. Michael Delahoyde, Washington State University
<<In 1570 when de Vere was 20, and still under wardship, after some persistent requests to see military service, he was sent to *THE NORTH* as an aide to *THOMAS* [RADCLIF]fe, 3rd *EARLE OF SUSSEX* (c. 1525 - 9 June 1583) who had the unpleasant task of subduing the rebels and disposing of the survivors of a rebellion led by the earls of Northumberland and Westmoreland. He and Sussex became staunch mutual supporters at court (parallel to Philip Sidney and his uncle Leicester). The older Sussex and Leicester had come to blows more than once in Council-chamber. Sussex served at court also in personally selecting plays to be performed; he superintended rehearsals too. When Sussex lay dying of consumption in 1583 (unless Leicester poisoned him), his last words were, "Beware of the Gypsy [Leicester], for he will be to hard for you all. You do not know the beast as well as I do".>>
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THIS STAR OF ENGLAND "William Shakes-speare"
Chapter Fourteen (1578) : by Dorothy and Charlton Ogburn
<<*THOMAS [RADCLIF]fe, 3rd EARLE OF SUSSEX* was Oxford's staunch friend and Leicester's inveterate enemy: the two elder men were always ranged upon opposite sides. At this time Sussex, a Catholic, approved the Alençon marriage, while Leicester, as head of the Puritan party, bitterly opposed it, for politic as well as personal reasons.>>
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https://hankwhittemore.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/discovery-of-a-1595-reference-to-sweet-shakspeare-oxford-our-de-vere-a-secret-no-80-of-100-reasons-to-conclude-that-edward-de-vere-earl-of-oxford-was-shakespeare/
Discovery of a 1595 Reference to "Sweet Shakspeare ...
Oxford ... Our De Vere ... A Secret"
by Hank Whittemore
<<"Most contemporaries alluded to Shakespeare's famous lines or characters - they did not usually mention his name or give personal information. Even praise for the great author was often indirect, implying that there was something secret about him." - Katherine Chiljan, "Shakespeare Suppressed"
These "reasons" to conclude that Edward de Vere, seventeenth Earl of Oxford wrote the Shakespeare works have generally avoided anagrams and the like, but for Reason No. 80 we make an exception. In my view, what we have here - based on common sense, requiring no formal training to recognize it - is a veritable knockout punch.
In 1595, two years after "Shakespeare" initially appeared -- on the dedication of Venus and Adonis to Henry Wriothesley, third Earl of Southampton -- and one year after the name appeared on the dedication of Lucrece to that young nobleman, the University of Cambridge published a book containing one of the first mentions of the new poet.
A page of this book contained an italicized margin note "Lucrecia Sweet Shak-speare" alongside two lines of text, one containing the italicized word "Oxford" and the line below containing a perfect anagram of OUR DE VERE -- A SECRET.
To be more precise, directly underneath "Oxford" was printed the odd hyphenated phrase "court-deare-verse," with letters and words which, in correct sequence, spelled out OUR DE VERE. [c-OUR-t-e-DE-e-a-r-e VERsE.] Moreover, the remaining seven letters (c-t-e-a-r-e-s) formed a perfect anagram of A SECRET.
The book was Polimanteia. The publication in 1595 was anonymous, but later evidence showed it was written by William Covell, a clergyman who received his MA from Cambridge in 1588 and went on to serve as a Fellow of Queen's College, Cambridge, from 1589 to 1599.
Discoverer of this rather amazing Oxford=Shakespeare reference, which had been hiding in plain sight for more than four centuries, is Alexander Waugh, the English writer who is also a critic, journalist, composer, cartoonist, record producer, television producer and outspoken critic of the traditional Stratfordian biography.>>
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https://drferris68.wordpress.com/courte-deare-verse-polimanteaia-1595/
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http://www.quns.cam.ac.uk/Queens/Record/1997/History/Shakes.html
.
<<Queensman, John WeEVER (1576-1632), was in an
extraordinarily interesting and eccentric character
- connoisseur of *GRAVEyards* , tobacco-enthusiast,
sycophant, satirist, dwarf, penner of dirty ditties,
egotist, pugnacious Lancashire man and proud of it
.
But his most fascinating and potentially important work is
his earliest one, the scruffy and badly-printed collection
of undergraduate squibs already quoted. Overleaf from
the celebration of Queens' we find the following:
.
. Ad Gulielum Shakespear
.
Honie-tong'd Shakespeare when I saw thaie issue
I swore Apollo got them and none other,
Their rosie-tainted features cloth'd in tissue,
Some heaven born goddesse said to be their mother:
Rose checkt Adonis with his amber tresses,
Faire fire-hot Venus charming him to love her,
Chaste Lucretia virgine-like her dresses,
Prowd lust-stung Tarqu[I]ne seeking still to prove h[E]r:
Romea Richard, more whose [N]ames I know not,
Their sugre[D] tongues, and power attract[I]ve beuty
Say they are Saint[S] althogh that Sts they shew not
For thousands vowes to them subiective dutie:
. They burn in love thy children Shakespear *HET THEm* ,
. Go, wo thy Muse more Nymphish brood beget them.
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____ <= 23 =>
.
. P r o w d l u s t-s t u n g T a r q u [I] n e s
. e e k i n g s t i l l t o p r o v e h [E] r R o
. m e a R i c h a r d m o r e w h o s e [N] a m e
. s I k n o w n o t T h e i r s u g r e [D] t o n
. g u e s a n d p o w e r a t t r a c t [I] v e b
. e u t y S a y t h e y a r e S a i n t [S]
.
[SIDNEI] -23 : Prob. ~ 1 in 360
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[From Epigrammes in the oldest Cut, and newest Fashion.]
.
This is the earliest poem ever addressed to Shakespeare, and
in fact one of the earliest references to him of any kind.
(Interestingly, one of the others, equally admiring,
is by Weever's own tutor, William Covell, another
Lancastrian: who passed on his enthusiasm to whom?).>>
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http://shakespeareauthorship.com/rep.html
.
<<William Covell's _Polimanteia_ (1595) lists *SIDNEI* , Spenser,
. Alabaster, Daniel, and Shakespeare -- but not Oxford?>>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Covell
<<William Covell (died 1613) was an English clergyman and writer. In the 1590s Covell took part in the controversy about how far the newly reformed Church of England should abandon the liturgy and hierarchy of the past, to which debate he contributed several broadly anti-puritan works. In his later career he allied himself with Archbishop John Whitgift and afterwards with his successor, Richard Bancroft, who like Covell was Lancashire-born.
Covell's interest to modern scholars now largely depends on one polemical work published in 1595, Polimanteia. In the course of this work, dedicated to the 3rd Earl of Essex, Covell briefly mentioned contemporary authors such as Thomas Nashe, Samuel Daniel and William Shakespeare.>>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Clerke_%28writer%29
<<William Clerke matriculated as a sizar of Trinity College, Cambridge, in June 1575, became a scholar of that house, and in 1578-9 proceeded Bachelor of Arts. He was soon afterward elected a fellow of his college, and in 1582 he commenced Master of Arts. There was a William Clerke, possibly the same, who was admitted to St. Paul's School on the recommendation of Mr. Malyne, and who received money 3 June 1579 and 20 February 1579-80, on going to Cambridge, from Robert Nowel's estate.
He is the supposed author of:
...........................................................................
'The Triall of Bastardie. ... Annexed at the end of this Treatise, touching the prohibition of Marriage, a Table of the Levitical, English, and Positive Canon Catalogues, their concordance and difference,' Lond. 1594, 4to.
'Polimanteia ; or, The meanes lawfull and unlawfull, to ivdge of the fall of a common-wealth, against the friuolous and foolish coniectures of this age. Whereunto is added, A letter to her three daughters, Cambridge, Oxford, Innes of Court, and to all the rest of her inhabitants: perswading them to a constant vnitie of what religion soever they are, for the defence of our dread soveraigne, and natiue cuntry: most requisite for this time wherein wee now live.' Cambridge, 1595, 4to.
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The [Polimanteia] dedication to Robert Devereux, earl of Essex, is signed 'W. C.' It is now attributed to William Covell. In this very curious and interesting work mention is made of our old English writers, 'sweet Shakespeare,' Harvey, Nash, and 'divine Spenser.' It has been said that this is the earliest known publication in which William Shakespeare's name is mentioned; but it occurs previously in the commendatory verses prefixed to "Willobie His Avisa," 1594.>>
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<<On the February 10, 1960, Jack Paar show, a joke was cut from a broadcast by studio censors involving a woman writing to a vacation resort and inquiring about the availability of a 'W. C.' The woman used that term to mean "water closet" (i.e., bathroom), but the gentleman who received the letter misunderstood 'W. C.' to mean "wayside chapel" (i.e., church):
An English lady [Melanie Sands?] is visiting Switzerland. She asks about the location of the 'W. C.' The Swiss, thinking she is referring to the "Wayside Chapel", leaves her a note that said (in part) "the 'W. C.' is situated nine miles from the room that you will occupy... It is capable of holding about 229 people and it is only open on Sunday and Thursday... It may interest you to know that my daughter was married in the W.C. and it was there that she met her husband... I shall be delighted to reserve the best seat for you, if you wish, where you will be seen by EVERyone.">>
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Art Neuendorffer
PUTTENHAM's (Conspiracy) List of Noble poets (1589):
.......................................................
1) Edward, Earl of Oxford (1550-1604)
.
2) Thomas Sackville, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
. - Grand Master Freemason (1561-1567)
. {Stone Guild => Guildensteen}
.
3) Henry, Lord Paget, of Beaudesert ( -1572?)
.
4) Sir Philip Sidney (1554-1586) Oxford 'foil' &
. fellow John Dee(007) protegee with Oxford.
.
5) Sir Walter Raleigh (1552-1618) Jonson's boss
.
6) Master Edward Dyer (1543-1607) Rosicrucian
. {Rosenkreutz => Rosencrantz}
.
7) Master Fulke Greville (1554-1628) Sidney friend,
. classmate & biographer; stabbed to death by servant!
.
8) George Gascoigne (1525-1577) Oxford/Turberville mentor
9) Nicholas Bretton (1553-1625) Mary Sidney Pembroke friend
10) George Turberville (1540-1610) pioneer of blank verse
.
Master Edward Dyer for Elegie
most sweet, solemn, and of high conceit."
.................................................
Henry Peacham's The Compleat Gentleman (1622), outstanding poets
of Elizabeth's reign: "Edward Earle of Oxford, the Lord Buckhurst,
Henry Lord Paget; our Phoenix, the noble Sir Philip Sidney,
M. Edward Dyer, M. Edmund Spencer, M. Samuel Daniel,
. with sundry others; whom, *NOT out of ENVY* >>
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From: Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net>
Subject: Re: S.H.L.A.S.I.
Date: 1999/07/18
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.990716...@mail.bcpl.net>
Newsgroups: humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare
Art [Neuendorffer] and John [Shahan] still need to come up
with a demonstration that Rollett's proposed cipher is valid.
I'm not surprised you missed Spenser. Here is the 22-column array:
. TOTHE ONLIEBEGETTEROFTH
. ESEIN S VINGSONNETSMRWHA
. LLHAP P INESSEANDTHATETE
. RNITI E PROMISEDBYOVREVE
. R LIVI N GPOETWISHETHTHEW
. E LLWI S HINGADVENTVRERIN
. S ETTI NGFORTH
Notice the 5-letter string SPENS reading down the 6th column and the
ER reading up the first. Spenser was not only well-connected at court,
he was one of the finest sonneteers of the age, as was
the well-connected-at-court Daniel, whose name
is hidden in the 9-column array:
. TOTHEON L I
. EBEGETT E R
. OFTHESE I N
. SVINGSO N N
. ETSMRWH A L
. LHAPPINE S
. SEANDTHA T
. ETERNITI E
. PROMISE D B
. YOVREVER L
. IVINGPOE T
. WISHETHT H
. EWELLWIS H
. INGADVEN T
. VRERINSE T
. TINGFORT H
Can it be a coincidence that the two names Peacham
added to Puttenham's list were *Spenser & Daniel* ?
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On Wed, 12 May 1999, Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
<<What we have is a marginal note to a passage of praise
for *Spenser & Daniel* . Here's the main passage
(taken from *The Shakespeare Allusion Book* 1:23):
[Polimanteia 1595]
Let divine Bartasse, eternally praise-worthie for his weeks worke, say
the best thinges were made first: Let other countries (sweet Cambridge)
envie, (yet admire) my Virgil, thy petrarch, divine Spenser. And
unlesse I erre, (a thing easie in such simplicitie) deluded by dearly
beloved Delia, and fortunatelie fortunate Cleopatra; Oxford thou maist
extoll thy courte-deare-verse happie Daniell, whose sweete refined muse,
in contracted shape, were sufficient amongst men, to gaine pardon of
the sinne to Rosemond, pittie to distressed Cleopatra, and
everliving praise to her loving Delia:
This passage has baffled some other anti-Stratfordians. Some, including
Volker (who has perhaps never seen the words in context), imagine that
"Oxford thou maist extoll thy courte-deare-verse" is meant as praise of
Edward de Vere, but the passage clearly shows that Samuel Daniel (a man
of whom his alma mater, Oxford, could be justly proud, just as Cambridge
could brag on Spenser) and not Vere (who is not even mentioned) is
being praised here. [Slightly off-topic: note that Covell's use
of "everliving" contains no suggestion that Delia is dead.]
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. All praiseworthy. Lucrecia Sweet Shakspeare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
..........................................................
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. Al[L] prais[E]worth[Y]. Lucre[C]ia Swe[E]t Shak[S]peare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
[LEYCES.] 6 : Prob. in marginal note ~ 1 in 58,000
..........................................................
The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary Sidney wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)
Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)
[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
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1 Peter 2:20 : For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye sha[L]l take it patiently? but if, wh[E]n ye do well, and suffer for it, [Y]e take it patiently, this is a[C]ceptable with God. For even h[E]reunto were ye called: becau[S]e Christ also suffered for us,
[LEYCES.] 24 : shortest [LEYCES.] in KJV
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. Lodge's Rosalynde: SALADYNES SONNET.
.
. If it be *TRUE* that heavens eternall course
. With [R]est[L]ess[E] swa[Y] and [C]eas[E]les[S] turning glides,
. If aire inconstant be, and swelling sourse
. Turne and returns with many fluent tides,
. If earth in winter summers pride *eSTRANGE* ,
. And Nature seemeth onely faire in change.
...................................................
[R.LEYCES.] 4 : Prob. in Sonnet ~ 1 in 200,000
...................................................
. If it be *TRUE* that our immortall spright,
. Derivde from heavenly pure, in wandring still
. In noveltie and *STRANGEnesse* doth delight,
. And by discoVEREnt power discerneth ill,
. And if the body for to worke his best
. Doth with the seasons change his place of rest.
.
. Whence *COMES* it that (inforst by furious Skies)
. I change both place and soyle, but not my hart ?
. Yet salve not in this change my maladies ?
. Whence growes it that each object workes my smart ?
. Alas I see my faith procures my misse,
. And change in love against my nature is.
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. P. Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses, (Golding)
.
. Too the Right Honourable and his singular good Lorde
. [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter, Baron of Denbygyh,
. Knyght of the moste noble order of the Garter etc.,
. Arthur Goldyng gent, wisheth continuance of health,
. with prosperous estate and fcelicitie.
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. Book 3 (Actaeon & Diana)
.
As soone a{S} with h{I}r scar{L}et whe{E}les ne{X}t morning bringeth light,
We will about our worke againe. But now Hiperion bright
Is in the middes of Heaven, and sear[E]s the fiel[D]es with fi[R]ie rayes.
T[A]ke up your toyles, and cease your worke, and let us go our wayes.
.
{SILEX-} 6
[EDRA] 9
.
http://www.nps.gov/features/yell/tours/fountainpaint/silexspring.htm
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140827.html
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The Damsels at the sight of man quite out of countnance dasht,
(Bicause they EVERichone were BARE and naked to the quicke)
Did beate their handes against their breasts, and cast out such a shricke,
That all the wood did ring thereof: and clinging to their dame
Did all they could to hide both hir and eke them[S]elves fro shame.
But Ph[E]be was of personage so [C]omly and so tall,
That b[Y] the middle of hir neck[E] she overpeerd them al[L].
Such colour as appear[E]s in Heaven by Phebus b[R]oken rayes
Directly shining on the Cloudes, or such as is alwayes
The colour of the Morning Cloudes before the Sunne doth show,
Such sanguine colour in the face of Phoebe gan to glowe
There standing naked in his sight. Who though she had hir gard
Of Nymphes about hir: yet she turnde hir bodie from him ward.
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___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 60
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
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[R.E.LEYCES.] shortest skip in KJV: 1491
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<<All which things must be wanting in my book, for neither have I anything to cite on the margent, or note in the end, and much less do I know what authors I follow, to put them at the beginning, as the custom is, by the letter of the A B C, beginning with Aristotle, and ending in Xenophon, or in Zoilus or *ZEUXIS*, although the one was a railer and the other a painter.>>
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http://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/lodge/lodge1.html
.
. THOMAS LODGE: Rosalynde. Euphues golden Legacie,
. found after his death in his Cell at {SILEX}[EDRA],
.
Did not Rosalinde content her Rosader? The
Forrest[E]r at this smiling, {S}hooke his head,
an[D] folding h{I}s armes made this merrie [R]ep{L}y.
*TRUTH gentle Swaine*, Rosad{E}r h[A]th his Rosalynde,
but as I{X}ion had Juno, who thinking to possesse a
goddesse, only imbraced a clowd : in these imaginary
fruitions of fancie, I resemble the birds that
fed them selves with *ZEUXIS painted GRAPES* ;
...........................................................
. <= 28 =>
.
. T h e F o r r e s t[E]r a t t h i s s m i l i n g{S}h
. o o k e h i s h e a d,a n[D]f o l d i n g h{I}s a r m
. e s m a d e t h i s m e r r i e[R]e p{L}y*T R U T H g
. e n t l e S w a i n e*R o s a d{E}r h[A]t h h i s R o
. s a l y n d e,b u t a s I{X}i o n h a d J u[N]o,w h o
. t h i n k i n g t o p o s s e s s e a g o d d e s[S]e,
. o n l y i m b r a c e d a c l o w d
.
{SILEX-} 26
[EDRANS] 30 :
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http://deveresocietyaustralia.wordpress.com/silexedra/
<<Silexedra at Fisher's Folly of Bishopsgate was Edward de Vere's little writing factory full of his early band of frontmen.
This period lasted into the 1580s then he settles down with Elizabeth Trentham and only uses the perfect-match patsy, Guillem Shaksper, for his Shake-a-spear epithet.
The Silexedra motley crew included:
* John Lyly - "Euphues" - the first English novel with dedication to Vere;
* Anthony Munday - "Robin Hood" contribution, Munday also links into William Hall, "Mr. W.H." of the Sonnets dedication;
* Robert Greene - "Menaphon: Camilla's Alarm to Slumbering Euphues in his Melancholly Cell at Silexedra" (for some reason the full title including the allusion to 'Silexedra' is always left out by Stratos!) and its Preface by Thomas Nashe/aka Francis Bacon, "[Vere] will afford you whole Hamlets, I should say handfuls of tragical speeches", and Shake-scene = Theatre-scene - Edward de Vere's whine at Edward Alleyn, the real "upstart crow";
* Thomas Kyd - The Spanish Tragedy ("Hieronymo's mad againe" - the line chosen by TS Eliot for the end of The Waste Land);
* Thomas Lodge - "Rosalynde: Euphues Golden Legacy, Found After His Death In His Cell At Silexedra" (based on As You Like It);
* Thomas Watson (strato Kenneth Muir, notes in the history of the sonnet that after the work of Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey, known as the 'Father of the English Sonnet' - just happens to be the uncle of you guessed it, Edward de Vere - not much happened for some time until along came "Hekatompathia - Passionate Centurie of Love" in 1582 supposedly by Thomas Watson but guess who the dedication is to, and who has his finger prints all over it - you guessed it again, Edward de Vere - in 1582 Vere was 32, Shaxper 18 and some 10 years away from coming to London; indeed C.S. Lewis thought the erudite appended notes were more interesting than the sonnets; and need we say, no works were ever dedicated to the Stratford guy). Watson brought along a young Christopher Marlowe, leading to "Tamburlaine the Great", aka 'Timur the Lame'...>>
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. Early Oxford translations
.
. (1566) ADLINGTO(n)'s Lucius Apuleius' Metamorphoses
. (1567) A(r)T(hur) GOLDIN(g)'s Ovid's Metamorphoses
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. A(r)TH(ur) GOLD(i)N(g)
. TH(e) GOLD(e)N A(sse)
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. THE GOLDEN ASSE :
(Dedicated to *THOMAS [RADCLIF]fe, EARLE OF SUSSEX*)
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CHAPTER 30: http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/ga/ga32.htm
.
How the boy that lead Apuleius to the field, was slaine in the wood.
.
While I devised with my selfe in what *MANNER* I might end my life, the roperipe
boy on the next morrow lead me to the same hill againe, and tied me to a bow of
a great Oke, and in the meane season he tooke his hatchet and cut wood to load
me withall, but behold there crept out of a cave by, a *MARVAILOUS great BEARE*,
holding out his mighty head, whom when I saw, I was sodainly stroken in feare,
and (throwing all the strength of my body into my hinder heeles) lifted up my
strained head and brake the *halter, wherewith I was tied*. Then there was no
need to bid me runne away, for I scoured not only on foot, but tumbled over
the stones and rocks with my body till I came into the open fields, to the
intent I would escape from the terrible *BEARE*, but especially from the boy
that was *WORSE than the BEARE*. Then a certaine *STRANGEr* that passed by
the way (espying me alone as a stray Asse) tooke me up and roade upon
my backe, beating me with a *STAFFE* (which he *BARE* in his hand)
through a wide and unknowne lane, whereat I was nothing displeased, but
willingly went forwa[R]d to [A]voi[D] the [C]rue[L]l pa[I]ne o[F] gelding,
which the shepherds had ordained for me, but as for the stripes
I was nothing moved, since I was accustomed to be beaten so EVERy day.
[RADCLIF.] 4 : Prob. in THE GOLDEN ASSE ~ 1 in 152
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[RADCLIF.] shortest skip in KJV : 2344
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http://public.wsu.edu/~delahoyd/shakespeare/vere.html
SHAKE-SPEARE: EDWARD DE VERE, 17th EARL OF OXFORD
Dr. Michael Delahoyde, Washington State University
<<In 1570 when de Vere was 20, and still under wardship, after some persistent requests to see military service, he was sent to *THE NORTH* as an aide to *THOMAS* [RADCLIF]fe, 3rd *EARLE OF SUSSEX* (c. 1525 - 9 June 1583) who had the unpleasant task of subduing the rebels and disposing of the survivors of a rebellion led by the earls of Northumberland and Westmoreland. He and Sussex became staunch mutual supporters at court (parallel to Philip Sidney and his uncle Leicester). The older Sussex and Leicester had come to blows more than once in Council-chamber. Sussex served at court also in personally selecting plays to be performed; he superintended rehearsals too. When Sussex lay dying of consumption in 1583 (unless Leicester poisoned him), his last words were, "Beware of the Gypsy [Leicester], for he will be to hard for you all. You do not know the beast as well as I do".>>
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THIS STAR OF ENGLAND "William Shakes-speare"
Chapter Fourteen (1578) : by Dorothy and Charlton Ogburn
<<*THOMAS [RADCLIF]fe, 3rd EARLE OF SUSSEX* was Oxford's staunch friend and Leicester's inveterate enemy: the two elder men were always ranged upon opposite sides. At this time Sussex, a Catholic, approved the Alençon marriage, while Leicester, as head of the Puritan party, bitterly opposed it, for politic as well as personal reasons.>>
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https://hankwhittemore.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/discovery-of-a-1595-reference-to-sweet-shakspeare-oxford-our-de-vere-a-secret-no-80-of-100-reasons-to-conclude-that-edward-de-vere-earl-of-oxford-was-shakespeare/
Discovery of a 1595 Reference to "Sweet Shakspeare ...
Oxford ... Our De Vere ... A Secret"
by Hank Whittemore
<<"Most contemporaries alluded to Shakespeare's famous lines or characters - they did not usually mention his name or give personal information. Even praise for the great author was often indirect, implying that there was something secret about him." - Katherine Chiljan, "Shakespeare Suppressed"
These "reasons" to conclude that Edward de Vere, seventeenth Earl of Oxford wrote the Shakespeare works have generally avoided anagrams and the like, but for Reason No. 80 we make an exception. In my view, what we have here - based on common sense, requiring no formal training to recognize it - is a veritable knockout punch.
In 1595, two years after "Shakespeare" initially appeared -- on the dedication of Venus and Adonis to Henry Wriothesley, third Earl of Southampton -- and one year after the name appeared on the dedication of Lucrece to that young nobleman, the University of Cambridge published a book containing one of the first mentions of the new poet.
A page of this book contained an italicized margin note "Lucrecia Sweet Shak-speare" alongside two lines of text, one containing the italicized word "Oxford" and the line below containing a perfect anagram of OUR DE VERE -- A SECRET.
To be more precise, directly underneath "Oxford" was printed the odd hyphenated phrase "court-deare-verse," with letters and words which, in correct sequence, spelled out OUR DE VERE. [c-OUR-t-e-DE-e-a-r-e VERsE.] Moreover, the remaining seven letters (c-t-e-a-r-e-s) formed a perfect anagram of A SECRET.
The book was Polimanteia. The publication in 1595 was anonymous, but later evidence showed it was written by William Covell, a clergyman who received his MA from Cambridge in 1588 and went on to serve as a Fellow of Queen's College, Cambridge, from 1589 to 1599.
Discoverer of this rather amazing Oxford=Shakespeare reference, which had been hiding in plain sight for more than four centuries, is Alexander Waugh, the English writer who is also a critic, journalist, composer, cartoonist, record producer, television producer and outspoken critic of the traditional Stratfordian biography.>>
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https://drferris68.wordpress.com/courte-deare-verse-polimanteaia-1595/
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http://www.quns.cam.ac.uk/Queens/Record/1997/History/Shakes.html
.
<<Queensman, John WeEVER (1576-1632), was in an
extraordinarily interesting and eccentric character
- connoisseur of *GRAVEyards* , tobacco-enthusiast,
sycophant, satirist, dwarf, penner of dirty ditties,
egotist, pugnacious Lancashire man and proud of it
.
But his most fascinating and potentially important work is
his earliest one, the scruffy and badly-printed collection
of undergraduate squibs already quoted. Overleaf from
the celebration of Queens' we find the following:
.
. Ad Gulielum Shakespear
.
Honie-tong'd Shakespeare when I saw thaie issue
I swore Apollo got them and none other,
Their rosie-tainted features cloth'd in tissue,
Some heaven born goddesse said to be their mother:
Rose checkt Adonis with his amber tresses,
Faire fire-hot Venus charming him to love her,
Chaste Lucretia virgine-like her dresses,
Prowd lust-stung Tarqu[I]ne seeking still to prove h[E]r:
Romea Richard, more whose [N]ames I know not,
Their sugre[D] tongues, and power attract[I]ve beuty
Say they are Saint[S] althogh that Sts they shew not
For thousands vowes to them subiective dutie:
. They burn in love thy children Shakespear *HET THEm* ,
. Go, wo thy Muse more Nymphish brood beget them.
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____ <= 23 =>
.
. P r o w d l u s t-s t u n g T a r q u [I] n e s
. e e k i n g s t i l l t o p r o v e h [E] r R o
. m e a R i c h a r d m o r e w h o s e [N] a m e
. s I k n o w n o t T h e i r s u g r e [D] t o n
. g u e s a n d p o w e r a t t r a c t [I] v e b
. e u t y S a y t h e y a r e S a i n t [S]
.
[SIDNEI] -23 : Prob. ~ 1 in 360
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[From Epigrammes in the oldest Cut, and newest Fashion.]
.
This is the earliest poem ever addressed to Shakespeare, and
in fact one of the earliest references to him of any kind.
(Interestingly, one of the others, equally admiring,
is by Weever's own tutor, William Covell, another
Lancastrian: who passed on his enthusiasm to whom?).>>
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http://shakespeareauthorship.com/rep.html
.
<<William Covell's _Polimanteia_ (1595) lists *SIDNEI* , Spenser,
. Alabaster, Daniel, and Shakespeare -- but not Oxford?>>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Covell
<<William Covell (died 1613) was an English clergyman and writer. In the 1590s Covell took part in the controversy about how far the newly reformed Church of England should abandon the liturgy and hierarchy of the past, to which debate he contributed several broadly anti-puritan works. In his later career he allied himself with Archbishop John Whitgift and afterwards with his successor, Richard Bancroft, who like Covell was Lancashire-born.
Covell's interest to modern scholars now largely depends on one polemical work published in 1595, Polimanteia. In the course of this work, dedicated to the 3rd Earl of Essex, Covell briefly mentioned contemporary authors such as Thomas Nashe, Samuel Daniel and William Shakespeare.>>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Clerke_%28writer%29
<<William Clerke matriculated as a sizar of Trinity College, Cambridge, in June 1575, became a scholar of that house, and in 1578-9 proceeded Bachelor of Arts. He was soon afterward elected a fellow of his college, and in 1582 he commenced Master of Arts. There was a William Clerke, possibly the same, who was admitted to St. Paul's School on the recommendation of Mr. Malyne, and who received money 3 June 1579 and 20 February 1579-80, on going to Cambridge, from Robert Nowel's estate.
He is the supposed author of:
...........................................................................
'The Triall of Bastardie. ... Annexed at the end of this Treatise, touching the prohibition of Marriage, a Table of the Levitical, English, and Positive Canon Catalogues, their concordance and difference,' Lond. 1594, 4to.
'Polimanteia ; or, The meanes lawfull and unlawfull, to ivdge of the fall of a common-wealth, against the friuolous and foolish coniectures of this age. Whereunto is added, A letter to her three daughters, Cambridge, Oxford, Innes of Court, and to all the rest of her inhabitants: perswading them to a constant vnitie of what religion soever they are, for the defence of our dread soveraigne, and natiue cuntry: most requisite for this time wherein wee now live.' Cambridge, 1595, 4to.
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The [Polimanteia] dedication to Robert Devereux, earl of Essex, is signed 'W. C.' It is now attributed to William Covell. In this very curious and interesting work mention is made of our old English writers, 'sweet Shakespeare,' Harvey, Nash, and 'divine Spenser.' It has been said that this is the earliest known publication in which William Shakespeare's name is mentioned; but it occurs previously in the commendatory verses prefixed to "Willobie His Avisa," 1594.>>
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<<On the February 10, 1960, Jack Paar show, a joke was cut from a broadcast by studio censors involving a woman writing to a vacation resort and inquiring about the availability of a 'W. C.' The woman used that term to mean "water closet" (i.e., bathroom), but the gentleman who received the letter misunderstood 'W. C.' to mean "wayside chapel" (i.e., church):
An English lady [Melanie Sands?] is visiting Switzerland. She asks about the location of the 'W. C.' The Swiss, thinking she is referring to the "Wayside Chapel", leaves her a note that said (in part) "the 'W. C.' is situated nine miles from the room that you will occupy... It is capable of holding about 229 people and it is only open on Sunday and Thursday... It may interest you to know that my daughter was married in the W.C. and it was there that she met her husband... I shall be delighted to reserve the best seat for you, if you wish, where you will be seen by EVERyone.">>
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Art Neuendorffer
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