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Queen Elizabeth cutting cake on the front lawn of the Folger,
with free public admittance, cake for all, and music, song, and
dance throughout the Folger? Somehow, I doubt it. bookburn

(quote)
© 2004 Folger Shakespeare Library

GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?
Shakespeare's Birthday Lecture | Shakespeare's Birthday Open
House

Shakespeare's Birthday Open House

Sunday, April 25, 2004 from Noon - 4 p.m.
Free; charge for some food and drink.

Enjoy jugglers and jesters, music, song and dance, stage combat
workshops,
and more. It's the one day of the year when the Folger Reading
Room is open
to all-plus, birthday cake for everyone!

A cake-cutting ceremony in honor of Shakespeare presided over by
Queen
Elizabeth I at 3:30 p.m. on the front lawn of the Folger.
Renaissance music, song, and dance throughout the Folger.
Stories of life in 16th-century England.
Onstage at the Folger, Shakespeare lovers performing their own
bit in
"Spontaneous Shakespeare."
Free children's activities; Shakespearean fortune-telling; quill
pen writing;
brooch-making; felt shield-making; potpourri-making;
face-painting; ivy
garland-making; and other Elizabethan crafts. Plus a children's
reading corner
and Elizabethan games.

Don't miss the Folger's Secondary School Shakespeare Festival
performances.
Tours of the Reading Rooms and the Elizabethan Garden. This is
the one day of
the year the Reading Rooms are open to the public. The Reading
Rooms
feature 16th-century tapestries, paintings from scenes of the
Bard's plays, and
the famed "Seven Ages of Man" stained glass window. The
Elizabethan Garden
features an herb garden with plants popular in Shakespeare's time
and
mentioned in his plays.

Thomas Trevelyon Pictorial Miscellany (1608), current exhibition
in Great Hall,
on view. Children's Guide and Scavenger Hunt available.
Mementos on sale at the Folger Museum Shop Shakespeare etc.
Shakespeare's Birthday Lecture
Monday, April 26, 2004 at 8 p.m. in the Folger Elizabethan
Theatre,
followed by a reception in the Great Hall.
Free.

Coppélia Kahn speaks on the making of Shakespeare's reputation.
Professor Kahn is a Professor of English at Brown University. She
is the author
of Roman Shakespeare: Warriors, Wounds, and Women (1997) and
Man's
Estate: Masculine Identity in Shakespeare (1981), among other
works. Her
edition of The Roaring Girl is forthcoming as part of the Oxford
Complete
Works of Thomas Middleton.
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John W. Kennedy

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Jan 28, 2004, 2:17:43 PM1/28/04
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bookburn wrote:

> Queen Elizabeth cutting cake on the front lawn of the Folger,
> with free public admittance, cake for all, and music, song, and
> dance throughout the Folger? Somehow, I doubt it. bookburn

My wife frequently gets gigs as Victoria.

--
John W. Kennedy
"But now is a new thing which is very old--
that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."
-- Charles Williams. "Judgement at Chelmsford"

Lynne

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Jan 28, 2004, 5:19:02 PM1/28/04
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"bookburn" <book...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<101eu5b...@corp.supernews.com>...

> Queen Elizabeth cutting cake on the front lawn of the Folger,
> with free public admittance, cake for all, and music, song, and
> dance throughout the Folger? Somehow, I doubt it. bookburn
>
> (quote)
> © 2004 Folger Shakespeare Library
>
> GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?
> Shakespeare's Birthday Lecture | Shakespeare's Birthday Open
> House
>
> Shakespeare's Birthday Open House
>
> Sunday, April 25, 2004 from Noon - 4 p.m.
> Free; charge for some food and drink.

snip


What a great time and place for hlasers to meet, especially as it's
around Oxford's birthday too. Anyone want to go? Perhaps we can see if
we can recognise one another.

LynnE

bookburn

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Jan 28, 2004, 10:05:59 PM1/28/04
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"Lynne" <lynnek...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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We could all come with an appropriate sign: Stratman--wool sack
over left shoulder; Marlovians--black patch over left eye;
Oxfordians--carrying bible; Baconians--one hand extended from
curtained opening in clothes.

Trouble is, there are all these colleges in DC, with fraternities
and sororities, who would line up for cake and beer, etc.; viz.,
Trinity College
Howard University
American University
Galladet University
Strayer University
Georgetown University
Washington college
Potomac College
Corcoran College
George Washington University
National Defence University
Southeastern University
University of the District of columbia
Washington Theological Union
Wesley Theological Seminary

Community colleges

bb

Christine Cooper

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Jan 29, 2004, 6:55:24 AM1/29/04
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lynnek...@sympatico.ca (Lynne) wrote in message news:<cc19a094.04012...@posting.google.com>...

All of us in one place? Eeeeuw!

Christine

Elisabeth Riba

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Jan 29, 2004, 11:06:35 AM1/29/04
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bookburn <book...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?

Oh cool. That means Marlowe is also turning 440, since they were both born
in the same year (by our calendar, at least)

Many almanac sites and biographies list Marlowe's birthay as February 6th,
but how do they know? For Shakespeare, all we have is the date of his
christening, with the exact date of his birth extrapolated from that.

That's not much time to prepare for, well, whatever I choose to do for the
occasion...

--
------> Elisabeth Riba * http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/ <------
"[She] is one of the secret masters of the world: a librarian.
They control information. Don't ever piss one off."
- Spider Robinson, "Callahan Touch"

Lynne

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:03:33 PM1/29/04
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kemahw...@yahoo.com (Christine Cooper) wrote in message news:<45b7371d.04012...@posting.google.com>...

Well, I didn't mean all of us, Christine, just the ones who'll be
around Washington at that time. I think I'll go as I'll be in
Baltimore around then. If there are going to be all those college
students there, I'll give the cake and beer a miss. But I might bring
a friend.

Best wishes,
Lynne

>
> Christine

Peter Farey

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Jan 30, 2004, 1:47:00 AM1/30/04
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Lynne wrote:

>
> "bookburn" wrote:
> >
> > (quote)
> > © 2004 Folger Shakespeare Library

> > GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?
> > Shakespeare's Birthday Lecture |
> > Shakespeare's Birthday Open House
> >
> > Shakespeare's Birthday Open House
> > Sunday, April 25, 2004 from Noon - 4 p.m.
> > Free; charge for some food and drink.

> What a great time and place for hlasers to meet,


> especially as it's around Oxford's birthday too.
> Anyone want to go? Perhaps we can see if we can
> recognise one another.

Sorry, I can't make it. It's on my birthday.


Peter F.
pet...@rey.prestel.co.uk
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/index.htm


Peter Farey

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Jan 30, 2004, 1:55:39 AM1/30/04
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Elisabeth Riba wrote:

>
> "bookburn" wrote:
> >
> > GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?
>
> Oh cool. That means Marlowe is also turning 440, since they
> were both born in the same year (by our calendar, at least)
>
> Many almanac sites and biographies list Marlowe's birthay
> as February 6th, but how do they know? For Shakespeare, all
> we have is the date of his christening, with the exact date
> of his birth extrapolated from that.

I kept coming across the February 6th claim during my recent
exploration of Marlowe-related websites too. I've no idea
where it came from, either. As far as I know, Marlowe's
baptism (February 26th) is, like Shakespeare's, the first
recorded date, and the actual birthday is similarly unknown.

Neil Brennen

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Jan 30, 2004, 5:41:41 AM1/30/04
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"Peter Farey" <Peter...@prst17z1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bvd2ko$3tn$1$8300...@news.demon.co.uk...

> Lynne wrote:
> >
> > "bookburn" wrote:
> > >
> > > (quote)
> > > © 2004 Folger Shakespeare Library
>
> > > GUESS WHO'S TURNING 440 in 2004?
> > > Shakespeare's Birthday Lecture |
> > > Shakespeare's Birthday Open House
> > >
> > > Shakespeare's Birthday Open House
> > > Sunday, April 25, 2004 from Noon - 4 p.m.
> > > Free; charge for some food and drink.
>
> > What a great time and place for hlasers to meet,
> > especially as it's around Oxford's birthday too.
> > Anyone want to go? Perhaps we can see if we can
> > recognise one another.
>
> Sorry, I can't make it. It's on my birthday.

It's a shame to lose Peter F. from this gathering. Since I think Lynne is
going, it would have been a chance to have our one sane Marlovian and one
sane Oxfordian meet.

So who else is attending? Am I the only one to uphold the Stratfordian
banner at this gathering?


Neil Brennen

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Jan 30, 2004, 5:56:58 AM1/30/04
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"Peter Farey" <Peter...@prst17z1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bvd2kq$3tn$2$8300...@news.demon.co.uk...

I wouldn't describe it as "unknown", Peter; surely Marlowe's can be
calculated just as Shakespeare's was.

As for the origin of the February 6th date and its popularity online, that's
a comment on the laziness of Internet "writers", most of who just blindly
copy from each other without regard for accuracy and without a scrap of
original work. It's far easier to miscopy a one-paragraph scribble from some
webshite rather than do the sort of historical research and interpretation
that you do.


Art Neuendorffer

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Jan 30, 2004, 7:12:09 AM1/30/04
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> Elisabeth Riba wrote:

> > Many almanac sites and biographies list Marlowe's birthay
> > as February 6th, but how do they know? For Shakespeare, all
> > we have is the date of his christening, with the exact date
> > of his birth extrapolated from that.

"Peter Farey" <Peter...@prst17z1.demon.co.uk> wrote

> I kept coming across the February 6th claim during my recent
> exploration of Marlowe-related websites too. I've no idea
> where it came from, either. As far as I know, Marlowe's
> baptism (February 26th) is, like Shakespeare's, the first
> recorded date, and the actual birthday is similarly unknown.

Sentimental reasons, perhaps:

Ulysses was first published on James Joyce's 40th birthday (Feb.2)

Titus Andronicus was registered on Marlowe's 30th birthday (Feb. 6)

Art N.


David L. Webb

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In article <MtednTD5x_9...@comcast.com>,
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>

(aneuendor...@comicast.nut) wrote:

What, Art?! You mean, there was no eclipse, occultation, Venus
transit, or other celestial event that dictated the date?!

Art Neuendorffer

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> > > Elisabeth Riba wrote:
> >
> > > > Many almanac sites and biographies list Marlowe's birthay
> > > > as February 6th, but how do they know? For Shakespeare, all
> > > > we have is the date of his christening, with the exact date
> > > > of his birth extrapolated from that.
>
> > "Peter Farey" <Peter...@prst17z1.demon.co.uk> wrote
> >
> > > I kept coming across the February 6th claim during my recent
> > > exploration of Marlowe-related websites too. I've no idea
> > > where it came from, either. As far as I know, Marlowe's
> > > baptism (February 26th) is, like Shakespeare's, the first
> > > recorded date, and the actual birthday is similarly unknown.
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> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>

>> Sentimental reasons, perhaps:
>>
>> Ulysses was first published on James Joyce's 40th birthday (Feb.2)
>>
>> Titus Andronicus was registered on Marlowe's 30th birthday (Feb. 6)

------------------------------------------------------------------
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote

> What, Art?! You mean, there was no eclipse, occultation,
> Venus transit, or other celestial event that dictated the date?!

------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe.

Art


Art Neuendorffer

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Jan 30, 2004, 5:13:28 PM1/30/04
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> > > Elisabeth Riba wrote:
> >
> > > > Many almanac sites and biographies list Marlowe's birthay
> > > > as February 6th, but how do they know? For Shakespeare, all
> > > > we have is the date of his christening, with the exact date
> > > > of his birth extrapolated from that.
>
> > "Peter Farey" <Peter...@prst17z1.demon.co.uk> wrote
> >
> > > I kept coming across the February 6th claim during my recent
> > > exploration of Marlowe-related websites too. I've no idea
> > > where it came from, either. As far as I know, Marlowe's
> > > baptism (February 26th) is, like Shakespeare's, the first
> > > recorded date, and the actual birthday is similarly unknown.
------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>

>> Sentimental reasons, perhaps:
>>
>> Ulysses was first published on James Joyce's 40th birthday (Feb.2)
>>
>> Titus Andronicus was registered on Marlowe's 30th birthday (Feb. 6)

------------------------------------------------------------------
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote

> What, Art?! You mean, there was no eclipse, occultation,


> Venus transit, or other celestial event that dictated the date?!

-------------------------------------------------------------------
European (Total) Eclipses of the Sun
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEcat/SEcatalog.html
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Greatest Saros Eclipse Sun Path
Date Eclipse Type # Gamma Mag. Lat. Long. Alt Width
U.T. ° ° ° km
-------------------------------------------------------------------
0650 Feb 06 14:45 A 99 0.662 0.990 23.4N 54.4W 48 48
--------------------------------------------------------------------
February 6, 650. An annular eclipse in North Scotland
and Orkney. Tycho Brahe claimed that
the eclipse had been seen in England,
but no record has been found.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Marlowe was born February 6, 1564
[the Feastday of St. DOROTHY (SOWER)]
--------------------------------------------------------------
February 6: the Feastday of St. DOROTHY

<<According to her apochryphal tradition, DOROTHY was a resident of
Caesarea, Cappadocia, who when she refused to sacrifice to the gods
during Emperor Diocletian's persecution of the Christians, was tortured
by the governor and ordered executed. On the way to the place of
execution, she met a young LAWYER, Theophilus, who mockingly asked her
to send him fruits from "the garden" she had joyously announced she
would soon be in. When she knelt for her execution, she prayed, and an
angel with a basket of three roses and three apples, which she sent to
Theophilus, telling him she would meet him in the garden. Theophilus
was converted to Christianity and later was martyred. Her feast
day (and that of St. Theophilus the Lawyer) is February 6th.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------
KING RICHARD III Act 3, Scene 4
The Tower of London.

GLOUCESTER: When I was last in Holborn,
I saw good strawberries in your garden there
I do beseech you send for some of them.
--------------------------------------------------------------
In _The Wizard of OZ_ DOROTHY GALE is swept up by a TORNADO
and goes to the Emerald City.
The Emerald Tablets of Hermes Trismegistus
[Robert GREENE had a wife named DOLL/DOROTHY]
------------------------------------------------------------
DOROTHY GALE
DOLL TEARSHEETS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GALE, n. [Prob. of Scand. origin; cf. Dan. gal furious, Icel. galinn,
cf. Icel. gala to sing, AS. galan to sing, Icel. galdr song, WITCHCRAFT,
AS. galdor charm, sorcery, E. nightinGALE.] 1. A strong current
of air; a wind between a stiff breeze and a hurricane. TEMPESTS.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gomez.org/anne.html

<<Anne, born February 6, 1665, (Marlowe's 101st birthday)
was the last English monarch to preside over
cabinets & veto parliamentary legislation.

James II became King on Friday February 6, 1685

Eight years later Robinson Crusoe leaves for a second voyage:

<<We set out on the 5th of February [1693] from Ireland,
and had a very fair GALE of wind for some days.>>

THE NEXT DAY [Feb. 6, 1693] the College of William & Mary
was granted its charter in [MOLL Flander's] Virginia colony.
----------------------------------------------------------------
[the Feastday of St. DOROTHY]

Marlowe's sister was DOROTHY.
Robert GREENE wife was named DOLL/DOROTHY

Christopher Marlowe was born February 6, 1564

Titus Andronicus registered on February 6, 1594
243 year Venus Cycle + 243
------------------
Alexander Pushkin buried February 6, 1837
------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Marlowe was born February 6, 1564
+ 11*11
--------
James II became King on February 6, 1685 (max Ven. W.elong)

June 10, 1688, James' son James (the Old Pretender) born

June 11, 1572, Ben Jonson born

June 11, 1687, Robinson Crusoe returns to England:
"I arrived in England the 11th of June, in the year 1687,
having been thirty-five years absent."
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gomez.org/anne.html

<<Anne, born February 6, 1665 to James II,
remained devoted to the Church of England and joined her
brother-in-law, William III, when he invaded England in 1688.
During William & Mary's reign, Anne became friends with Sarah
'Mrs. Freeman' Churchill. When Anne came to the throne in 1702,
she gave Sarah the highest court appointments & made her husband,
the Duke of Marlborough, commander-in-chief in the War of the Spanish
Succession. Anne had a mind of her own, however. After seven years of
the war against France, she realized her subjects were tiring of it.
In 1710, she employed her influence to overthrow the Whig government,
which was committed to an uncompromising peace treaty, and
instituted a Tory government instead. Like her, the Tories staunchly
supported the Church of England and favored an immediate peace.

[Did Jonathan Swift's Whig to Tory switch coincide with Anne's?]

Anne ruthlessly broke with the Churchills, turning for
comfort to other women friends and to her chief minister,
Robert Harley, who concluded the Peace of Utrecht in 1713.>>

<<In 1702 Defoe wrote his famous pamphlet THE SHORTEST-WAY WITH THE
DISSENTERS. Himself a Dissenter he mimicked the extreme attitudes of
High Angligan Tories and pretented to argue for the extermination of
all Dissenters. Nobody was amused, Defoe was arrested in May 1703,
but released in return for services as a pamphleter and intelligence
agent to Robert Harley, 1st Earl of OXFORD, and the Tories.
While in prison Defoe wrote a mock ode, HYMN TO THE PILLORY (1703).

When the Tories fell from power Defoe continued to carry
out intelligence work for the Whig government.>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Alexander Pope
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/apope.htm

<<In 1700 Pope contracted POTT's disease, a tubercular affection of the
spine. He also suffered from asthma, and his humpback was a constant
target for his critics in literary battles - Pope was called a
'hunchbacked toad'. In middle age he was 4ft 6in tall and weared a
stiffened canvas bodice to support his spine. Pope associating with
anti-Catholic Whig friends, but by 1713 he moved towards the Tories,
becaming one of the members of Scriblerus Club. His friends
among Tory intellectuals included Swift, Gay,
Congreve and Robert Harley, 1st Earl of Oxford.>>
---------------------------------------------------------------
A letter from Capt. Gulliver, to his Cousin Sympson:
---------------------------------------------------------------
<<And besides the Fact was altogether false; for to my Knowledge, being
in England during some Part of her Majesty's Reign, she did govern by
a chief Minister; nay, even by two successively; the first whereof
was the Lord of Godolphin, and the second the Lord of OXFORD;
SO THAT YOU HAVE MADE ME SAY THE THING THAT WAS NOT.>>

<<I was able in the COMPASS of two Years (although I confess
with the utmost Difficulty) to remove that infernal Habit of Lying,
Shuffling, Deceiving, and Equivocating, so deeply rooted in the
VERy Souls of all my Species, especially the Europeans.>>

<< I have now done with all visionary Schemes for EVER.
April 2, 1727.>>
E. VERE's birthdate: April 2, 1550
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
OXFORD, EARLS OF, an English title held successively by the families of
Vere & Harley. The Veres held the earldom from 1142 until March 1703,
when it became extinct on the death of Aubrey de Vere, the 20th earl.
In 1711 the English statesman Robert Harley was created earl of Oxford;
but the title became' extinct in this family on the death of the 6th earl in
1853.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Order of the Garter
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/orders/garterlist.htm

461 (inv 1661) Aubrey (de Vere), 20th (and last) Earl of Oxford.
Imprisoned in the Tower of London as party
to a plot against the Protector Cromwell.

522 (inv 1713) Robert (Harley), 1st Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer.
Lord High Treasurer. He and his son founded the famous Harleian
Collection of manuscripts now in the British Museum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OXFORD, ROBERT HARLEY, IST EARL OF (1661-1724),
English statesman, commonly known by his surname of HARLEY,
eldest son of Sir Edward Harley (1624-1700), a prominent
landowner in Herefordshire, and grandson of the celebrated letter-writer
Lady Brilliana Harley (c. 1600-1643), was born in Bow Street,
Covent Garden, London, on the 5th of December 1661. His school days were
passed at Shilton, near Burford, in Oxfordshire, in a small school which
produced at the same time a lord high treasurer (Harley), a lord high
chancellor (Simon Harcourt) and a lord chief justice of the common pleas
(Thomas Trevor). The principles of Whiggism & Nonconformity were
instilled into his mind at an early age, and if he changed the politics of
his
ancestors he never formally abandoned their religious opinions. At the
Revolution of 1688 Sir Edward and his son raised a troop of horse in support
of the cause of William III., and took possession of the city of Worcester
in his interest. This recommended Robert Harley to the notice of the
Boscawen family, and led to his election, in April 1689, as the
parliamentary representative of Tregony, a borough under their control.
He remained its member for one parliament, when he was elected by the
constituency of New Radnor, and he continued to represent it until
his elevation to the peerage in 1711.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Was Oxford's Portrait Shakespeare's? by Richard Whalen
http://www.everreader.com/manindep.htm

<<In 1737 Edward Harley (whose library became the Harleian Collection)
took the engraver George Vertue with him to see Stratford and the
monument in Trinity Church. Vertue sketched the monument but declined
to show the face of the monument's "Shakspeare" in his sketch.
Instead, he substituted a likeness based on the so-called Chandos
portrait of Shakespeare. He also put Harley into his sketch,
as a lone spectator of this bust with a substitute face.

As it happens, Harley was the 2nd earl of Oxford (second creation),
while his wife had connections to the 17th earl of Oxford (first
creation). She was the great-great-granddaughter of Oxford's favorite
cousin, the famous Horace de Vere. Also, she had inherited the
Welbeck portrait of the 17th Earl of Oxford.>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer


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