MOAI Atbash

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Jul 21, 2021, 4:08:14 AMJul 21
Has anyone noticed that MOAI bears the same relation to Malvoglio's name as ATBASH does to the Hebrew alphabet?

Possibly yes as I didn't log in to read beyond the first page of

Arthur Neuendorffer

Jul 21, 2021, 11:03:20 AMJul 21
hreget wrote:

<<Has anyone noticed that MOAI bears the same relation
to Malvoglio's name as ATBASH does to the Hebrew alphabet?

<<In Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book stories, the name Mowgli is said to mean "frog", describing his lack of fur. Kipling made up the name, and it "does not mean 'frog' in any language that I know of." Kipling stated that the first syllable of "Mowgli" should rhyme with "cow" rather than "mow.">>
Twelfe Night, Or what you will.
Actus Primus, Scaena Prima.
Enter Orsino Duke of Illyria, Curio, and other

Duke : IF Musicke be the food of Loue, play on,!
Giue me excesse of it: that surfetting,
The appetite may sicken, and so dye.
That straine agen, it had a dying fall:
O, it came ore my eare, like the sweet sound
That breathes vpon a banke of Violets;
Stealing, and giuing Odour. Enough, no more,
'Tis not so sweet now, as it was before.
O spirit of Loue, how quicke and fresh art thou,
That notwithstanding thy capacitie,
Receiueth as the Sea. Nought enters there,
Of what validity, and pitch so ere,
But falles into abatement, and low price
Euen in a minute; so [FULL] of shapes is fancie,
That it alone, is high fantasticall.
I haue lymde her, but it is Ioues doing, and Ioue make me
thanke[FULL]. And when she went away now, let this Fel-
low be look'd too: Fellow? not *MA[LVOL]IO*, nor after my
degree, but Fellow. Why euery thing adheres togither,
that no dramme of a scruple, no scruple of a scruple, no
obstacle, no incredulous or vnsafe circumstance: What
can be saide? Nothing that can be, can come betweene
me, and the [FULL] prospect of my hopes. Well Ioue, not I,
is the doer of this, and he is to be thanked.
Toby : That defence thou hast, betake the too't: of what
nature the wrongs are thou hast done him, I knowe not:
but thy intercepter [FULL] of despight, bloody as the Hun-
ter, attends thee at the Orchard end: dismount thy tucke,
be yare in thy preparation, for thy assaylant is quick, skil-
[FULL], and deadly.

John W Kennedy

Jul 21, 2021, 12:47:22 PMJul 21
Well, I certainly have.

It might also be read as “Amo—ai!”.

But do remember what the document is and why it was written.

John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"

Arthur Neuendorffer

Jul 21, 2021, 2:54:35 PMJul 21
Alan Green - presenting "Dee-Coding Shakespeare"

got me thinking about the mispagination of page: 273/265

So I did an ELS search for the top of page: 264

...and discovered: {M}[MASONS]{r} skip 33 = 264/(273-265) :
. Twelfth Night (First Folio, 1623) top of page 264: II, v
{M}al. Ioue knowes I loue, but who, Lips do not [M]ooue, no
. man must know. No man must know. Wh[A]t followes?
. The numbers alter'd: No man mu[S]t know,
. If this should be thee Maluolio?
T[O]. Marrie hang thee brock(E).
Mal. I may comma[N]d where I adore, but silenc(E) like a Lu-
. cre[S]se knife:
. With bloodlesse st(R)oke my hea{r}t doth gor(E), {M}.O.A.I. d{O}th
. sw{A}y my l{I|F|E).
............ <= 33 = 264/(273-265) =>
. {M} alIou. e kn o. w e s I l. o. uebu. t w h o L i p. sdonot
. [M] oouen. o ma n. m u s t k. n. owNo. m a n m u s t. knowWh
. [A] tfoll. o we s. T h e n u. m. bers. a l t e r d N. omanmu
. [S] tknow. I ft h. i s s h o. u. ldbe. t h e e M a l. uolioT
. [O] Marri. e ha n. g t h e e. b. rock (E)M a l I m a. ycomma
. [N] dwher. e Ia d. o r e b u. t. sile. n c(E)l i k e. aLucre
. [S] sekni (F)eW i. t h b l o. o. dles. s e s t(R)o k. emyhea
. {r} tdoth. g or(E){M O A I}d {O} thsw {A}y m y l{I|F)(E)
{M}[MASONS]{r} 33 : [MASONS] Prob. here ~ 1 in 1470
(FREE) -35,18 : Prob. of both here ~ 1 in 135
{MOAI} 5,1
Art Neuendorffer


Jul 22, 2021, 5:49:48 AMJul 22
I thought it was worth noting. Someone might turn up a connection with the instances of Atbash in the Bible. That's all.
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