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Arthur Neuendorffer
Aug 10, 2016, 11:26:41 AM8/10/16
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. Sonnet 64
.
WHen I haue seene by times fell hand defa[C]ed
The rich proud cost of outworne buried age,
When sometime *loftie t[O]wers* I see downe rased,
And *brasse eternall* slaue to mortall rage.
.
Whe[N] I haue seene t{H}e hungry Ocean gaine
Aduantag{E} on the Kingdome of the [S]hoare,
A{N}d the firme soile win of the wat{RY} maine,
Increasing store wi[T]h losse, and losse with store.
.
When I haue seene such interchange of st[A]te,
....................................................
. <= 27 =>
.
. W H e n I h a u e s e e n e b y t i m e s f e l l h a
. n d d e f a[C]e d T h e r i c h p r o u d c o s t o f
. o u t w o r n e b u r i e d a g e,W h e n s o m e t i
. m e*l o f t i e t[O]w e r s*I s e e d o w n e r a s e
. d,A n d*b r a s s e e t e r n a l l*s l a u e t o m o
. r t a l l(R)a g e.W h e[N]I h a u e s(E)e n e t{H}e(H)
. u n g r y O c e a n g a i n e A d u a n t a g{E}o n t
. h e K i n g d o m e o f t h e[S]h o a r e,A{N}d t h e
. f i r m e s o i l e w i n o f t h e w a t{R Y}m a i n
. e,I n c r e a s i n g s t o r e w i[T]h l o s s e,a n
. d l o s s e w i t h s t o r e.W h e n I h a u e s e e
. n e s u c h i n t e r c h a n g e o f s t[A]t e,
.
(HENR.) -7
{HEN(RY)} 26
[CONSTA.] 57
....................................................
Or state it selfe confounded, to decay,
Ruine hath taught me thus to ruminate
That Time will come and take my love away.
.
This thought is as a death, which cannot choose
But weepe to haue, that which it feares to loose.
---------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Constable
<<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences. In 1591 he converted to Catholicism, and lived in exile on the continent for some years. He returned to England at the accession of King James, but was soon a prisoner in the Tower and in the Fleet. He died an exile at Liege in 1613.
He was sent to Edinburgh in 1589 on the occasion of King James's marriage, and by this time was a member of the circle of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex. His religious convictions were still to outward appearances Protestant. About this time he is credited with having written the anonymous tract Examen pacifique de la doctrine des Huguenots, published in September 1589, in which, according to Sullivan, he wrote as a Roman Catholic urging his countrymen to support Henri IV, who had just been crowned King.
In 1591 Constable went to Normandy with the English forces under Essex who laid siege to Rouen. At some time between his arrival in France and the death of his father on 12 November 1591 Constable openly embraced Roman Catholicism.
In 1592 Diana, a sequence of twenty-three sonnets by Constable, was published in London by Richard Smith, one of the first sonnets sequences in English. A second edition, containing five new sonnets by Constable with additions by Sir Philip Sidney and other poets followed in 1594. Sullivan considers that the 1594 publication was undertaken on Richard Smith's initiative. There were two further editions in 1597 and 1604. Four poems by Constable were included in England's Helicon in 1600, among them Damelus Song to his Diaphenia and Venus and Adonis. According to Hazlitt, 'A more beautiful specimen of early English lyric poetry than The Sheepheard's Song of Venus and Adonis could hardly be found in the whole circle of Elizabethan poetry'. Of the numerous sonnets he wrote, the twenty-eight of the sonnet sequence Diana, and the four prefixed to Sir Philip Sidney's An Apology for Poetry, contain his best work. In My lady's presence makes the roses red, he is able to capture Spenser's charm. His rhyme scheme is mixed Italian and English, like Sidney's, the octave being Italian and the sestet English.
Constable was highly reputed as a poet in his own day. In the censure of contemporary poets in Act I, Scene ii, of the anonymous Elizabethan play, The Return From Parnassus, Iudicio passes judgment favourably on Constable, saying that:
Sweete Constable doth take the wondring eare
And layes it up in willing prisonment.
................................................................
Ben Jonson also pays tribute to Constable's verse in Underwood:
Hath our great Sydney Stella set,
Where nEVER STAR shone brighter yet?
Or *CONSTABLE's* ambrosiac muse
Made Diana not his notes refuse>>
---------------------------------------------------
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/jonson/discshake.html
Jonson, Timber: or, Discoveries:
Poetry, in this latter Age, hath prov'd but a meane Mistresse, [T]o such
as have wholly addicted themselves to her, or given their name[S] up to her
family. They who have but saluted her on the by, and now and the[N] tendred
their visits, shee hath done much for, and {A}dvanced in the way [O]f their
owne professions ({B}oth the Law, and the Gospel) beyond all they [C]ou{L}d
have hoped, or done for themselves, without h{E}r favour. Wherein s(He) doth
emulate the judicious, but perposterous bounty of the times Grandes :
who accumulate all they can upon the Parasite, or Fresh-man in their
friendship; but thinke an old Client, or honest servant, boundby
his place to write, and starve.
..................................................
. <= 19 =>
.
. [T] o s u c h a s h a v e w h o l l y a
. d d i c t e d t h e m s e l v e s t o
. h e r, o r g i v e n t h e i r n a m e
. [S] u p t o h e r f a m i l y.T h e y w
. h o h a v e b u t s a l u t e d h e r
. o n t h e b y,a n d n o w a n d t h e
. [N] t e n d r e d t h e i r v i s i t s,
. s h e e h a t h d o n e m u c h f o r,
. a n d {A} d v a n c e d i n t h e w a y
. [O] f t h e i r o w n e p r o f e s s i
. o n s({B} o t h t h e L a w,a n d t h e
. G o s p e l)b e y o n d a l l t h e y
. [C] o u {L} d h a v e h o p e d,o r d o n
. e f o r t h e m s e l v e s,w i t h o
. u t h {E} r f a v o u r.W h e r e i n s
. (H e) d o t h e m u l a t e t h e j u d
. i c i o u s,b u t p e r p o s t e r o
. u s b o u n t y o f t h e t i m e s G
. r a n d e s
.................................
[(He.) CONST-] -57
{-ABLE} 38
.....................................................
...I remember, the Players have often mentioned it as an honour to Shakespeare, that in his
writing, (whatsoever he penn'd) hee never blotted out line. My answer hath beene, Would he had
blotted a thousand. Which they thought a malevolent speech. I had not told posterity this, but
for their ignorance, who choose that circumstance to commend their friend by, wherein he most
faulted. And to justifie mine owne candor, (for I lov'd the man, and doe honour his memory (on
this side Idolatry) as much as any.) Hee was (indeed) honest, and of an open, and free nature :
had an excellent Phantsie ; brave notions, and gentle expressions : wherein hee flow'd with
that facility, that sometime it was necessary he should be stop'd : Sufflaminandus erat ; as
Augustus said of Haterius. His wit was in his owne power ; would the rule of it had beene so
too. Many times hee fell into those things, could not escape laughter : As when hee said in the
person of Caesar, one speaking to him ; Caesar, thou dost me wrong. Hee replyed : Caesar did
never wrong, but with just cause : and such like ; which were ridiculous. But hee redeemed his
vices, with his vertues. There was ever more in him to be praysed, then to be pardoned.
---------------------------------------------------
. Sonnet 99
.
. THe forward violet thus did I chide,
. Sweet theefe whence didst thou steale thy sweet that smels
. If not from my loues breath,the purple pride,
. Which on thy soft cheeke for complexion dwells?
. In my loues veines thou hast too grosely died,
.
. The Lillie I conde[M]ned for thy hand,
. [A]nd buds of {MARIE}[R]o(M) h(A)d (S)t(O)l(N)e th[Y] haire,
. The Roses [F]earefully on thornes did stand,
. {O(NE)} blushing shame,an other white dispaire:
.
. A third nor red, nor white,had stolne of both,
. And to his robbry had annext thy breath,
. But {FOR} his theft in pride of {ALL} his growth
. A vengfull canker eate him vp to death.
.
. More flowers I noted,yet I none could see,
. But sweet,or culler it had stolne from thee.
..................................................
. <= 14 =>
.
. L i l l i e I c o n d e [M] n
. e d f o r t h y h a n d,[A] n
. d b u d s o f{M A R I E}[R] o
. (M)h(A)d(S)t(O)l(N)e t h [Y] h
. a i r e,T h e R o s e s [F] e
. a r e f u l l y o n t h o r
. n e s d i d s t a n d,
(MASON) 2 : Prob. in any sonnet ~ 1 in 38
[MARY F.] 14 : Prob. in any sonnet ~ 1 in 19
{MARIE} 1 : one of 2 {MARIE/MARY} sonnet "flowers."
.........................................................
http://www.shakespeares-sonnets.com/Archive/99comm.htm
<<Uniquely among the 154 Sonnets, Sonnet 99 alone has 15 lines instead of the usual 14. The young man appears to have stolen the poet's mistress. In this sonnet the guilty party is the various conventional beauties of nature, the violet, lily, marjoram [{MARIE}Rom] and rose, which have committed theft. One is tempted to conclude that theft is inherent in nature - the youth is stolen from, but he will steal, or has already stolen from others. All things steal from each other and the world is an amoral place to live in.>>
----------------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Fitton
<<[MARY F]itton (Baptised 24 June 1578 - 1647) was a maid of honour to Queen Elizabeth. She is noted for her scandalous affairs with [W]illiam [H]erbert, 3rd Earl of Pembroke and others. She is considered by some to be the "Dark Lady" of Shakespeare's sonnets.>>
.........................................................
http://literature.org/authors/kemp-william/nine-daies-morrice.html
William Kempe dedicated _Nine Daies Wonder_ (1600)
to "Mistress {ANNE??} [FITTON]"
<<Honorable (M)istris in the waine of my little wit, I (A)m forst to desire your
protection, else every B(A)llad-sing{E}r will proclaime me bankrupt of ho(N)esty
A sort o[F] mad fellows seei{N}g me me(R)rily dispos'd in a Morrice, have so
bepa[I]nted mee in pri(N)t si{N}c{E} my gambols began from (L)ondo{N} to Norwich,
[T]hat (h(A)ving but a{N} ill f{A}ce before) I shall app(E|A}re to the world
wi[T]h(O)ut a face, if your fayre hand wipe (N)ot away their foule colours.
[O]ne hath written K{E}mps farewell to the tu{N}e of Kery, merym Buffe:
a[N]other his desperate d{A}ungers in his late travaile: the third
his entertainement to New-Mark(E)t; which towne I came never
neere by the length of halfe the heath...>>
.......................................................................
. <= 53 =>
.
. Honorab l e(M)ist r isinthew a i n e o fmylittlewitIAmf o rsttodesi
. reyourp r o t ect i onelseev e r y B(A)lladsingErwillpr o claimemeb
. ankrupt o f h oNe s tyAsorto [F] m a d f ellowsseeiNgmeme(R)rilydispo
. sdinaMo r r i ceh a vesobepa [I] n t e d meeinpriNtsiNcEm y gambolsbe
. ganfrom(L)o n don t oNorwich [T] h a t h AvingbutaNillfAc e beforeIsh
. allappE A r e tot h eworldwi [T] h(O)u t afaceifyourfayre h andwipeNo
. tawayth e i r fou l ecolours [O] n e h a thwrittenKEmpsfa r ewelltoth
. etuNeof K e r yme r ymBuffea [N] o t h e rhisdesperatedAu n gersinhis
. latetra v a i let h ethirdhi s e n t e rtainementtoNewM a rkEtwhich
. towneIc a m e nev e rneereby t h e l e ngthofhalfethehe a th
.
[FITTON] 53 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 500
(MARLO) 70 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 48
(ANNE) 77,77
{ANNE} -55,-24,-19 : Prob. 5 {ANNE}s ~ 1 in 47
------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
. Sonnet 64
.
WHen I haue seene by times fell hand defa[C]ed
The rich proud cost of outworne buried age,
When sometime *loftie t[O]wers* I see downe rased,
And *brasse eternall* slaue to mortall rage.
.
Whe[N] I haue seene t{H}e hungry Ocean gaine
Aduantag{E} on the Kingdome of the [S]hoare,
A{N}d the firme soile win of the wat{RY} maine,
Increasing store wi[T]h losse, and losse with store.
.
When I haue seene such interchange of st[A]te,
....................................................
. <= 27 =>
.
. W H e n I h a u e s e e n e b y t i m e s f e l l h a
. n d d e f a[C]e d T h e r i c h p r o u d c o s t o f
. o u t w o r n e b u r i e d a g e,W h e n s o m e t i
. m e*l o f t i e t[O]w e r s*I s e e d o w n e r a s e
. d,A n d*b r a s s e e t e r n a l l*s l a u e t o m o
. r t a l l(R)a g e.W h e[N]I h a u e s(E)e n e t{H}e(H)
. u n g r y O c e a n g a i n e A d u a n t a g{E}o n t
. h e K i n g d o m e o f t h e[S]h o a r e,A{N}d t h e
. f i r m e s o i l e w i n o f t h e w a t{R Y}m a i n
. e,I n c r e a s i n g s t o r e w i[T]h l o s s e,a n
. d l o s s e w i t h s t o r e.W h e n I h a u e s e e
. n e s u c h i n t e r c h a n g e o f s t[A]t e,
.
(HENR.) -7
{HEN(RY)} 26
[CONSTA.] 57
....................................................
Or state it selfe confounded, to decay,
Ruine hath taught me thus to ruminate
That Time will come and take my love away.
.
This thought is as a death, which cannot choose
But weepe to haue, that which it feares to loose.
---------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Constable
<<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences. In 1591 he converted to Catholicism, and lived in exile on the continent for some years. He returned to England at the accession of King James, but was soon a prisoner in the Tower and in the Fleet. He died an exile at Liege in 1613.
He was sent to Edinburgh in 1589 on the occasion of King James's marriage, and by this time was a member of the circle of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex. His religious convictions were still to outward appearances Protestant. About this time he is credited with having written the anonymous tract Examen pacifique de la doctrine des Huguenots, published in September 1589, in which, according to Sullivan, he wrote as a Roman Catholic urging his countrymen to support Henri IV, who had just been crowned King.
In 1591 Constable went to Normandy with the English forces under Essex who laid siege to Rouen. At some time between his arrival in France and the death of his father on 12 November 1591 Constable openly embraced Roman Catholicism.
In 1592 Diana, a sequence of twenty-three sonnets by Constable, was published in London by Richard Smith, one of the first sonnets sequences in English. A second edition, containing five new sonnets by Constable with additions by Sir Philip Sidney and other poets followed in 1594. Sullivan considers that the 1594 publication was undertaken on Richard Smith's initiative. There were two further editions in 1597 and 1604. Four poems by Constable were included in England's Helicon in 1600, among them Damelus Song to his Diaphenia and Venus and Adonis. According to Hazlitt, 'A more beautiful specimen of early English lyric poetry than The Sheepheard's Song of Venus and Adonis could hardly be found in the whole circle of Elizabethan poetry'. Of the numerous sonnets he wrote, the twenty-eight of the sonnet sequence Diana, and the four prefixed to Sir Philip Sidney's An Apology for Poetry, contain his best work. In My lady's presence makes the roses red, he is able to capture Spenser's charm. His rhyme scheme is mixed Italian and English, like Sidney's, the octave being Italian and the sestet English.
Constable was highly reputed as a poet in his own day. In the censure of contemporary poets in Act I, Scene ii, of the anonymous Elizabethan play, The Return From Parnassus, Iudicio passes judgment favourably on Constable, saying that:
Sweete Constable doth take the wondring eare
And layes it up in willing prisonment.
................................................................
Ben Jonson also pays tribute to Constable's verse in Underwood:
Hath our great Sydney Stella set,
Where nEVER STAR shone brighter yet?
Or *CONSTABLE's* ambrosiac muse
Made Diana not his notes refuse>>
---------------------------------------------------
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/jonson/discshake.html
Jonson, Timber: or, Discoveries:
Poetry, in this latter Age, hath prov'd but a meane Mistresse, [T]o such
as have wholly addicted themselves to her, or given their name[S] up to her
family. They who have but saluted her on the by, and now and the[N] tendred
their visits, shee hath done much for, and {A}dvanced in the way [O]f their
owne professions ({B}oth the Law, and the Gospel) beyond all they [C]ou{L}d
have hoped, or done for themselves, without h{E}r favour. Wherein s(He) doth
emulate the judicious, but perposterous bounty of the times Grandes :
who accumulate all they can upon the Parasite, or Fresh-man in their
friendship; but thinke an old Client, or honest servant, boundby
his place to write, and starve.
..................................................
. <= 19 =>
.
. [T] o s u c h a s h a v e w h o l l y a
. d d i c t e d t h e m s e l v e s t o
. h e r, o r g i v e n t h e i r n a m e
. [S] u p t o h e r f a m i l y.T h e y w
. h o h a v e b u t s a l u t e d h e r
. o n t h e b y,a n d n o w a n d t h e
. [N] t e n d r e d t h e i r v i s i t s,
. s h e e h a t h d o n e m u c h f o r,
. a n d {A} d v a n c e d i n t h e w a y
. [O] f t h e i r o w n e p r o f e s s i
. o n s({B} o t h t h e L a w,a n d t h e
. G o s p e l)b e y o n d a l l t h e y
. [C] o u {L} d h a v e h o p e d,o r d o n
. e f o r t h e m s e l v e s,w i t h o
. u t h {E} r f a v o u r.W h e r e i n s
. (H e) d o t h e m u l a t e t h e j u d
. i c i o u s,b u t p e r p o s t e r o
. u s b o u n t y o f t h e t i m e s G
. r a n d e s
.................................
[(He.) CONST-] -57
{-ABLE} 38
.....................................................
...I remember, the Players have often mentioned it as an honour to Shakespeare, that in his
writing, (whatsoever he penn'd) hee never blotted out line. My answer hath beene, Would he had
blotted a thousand. Which they thought a malevolent speech. I had not told posterity this, but
for their ignorance, who choose that circumstance to commend their friend by, wherein he most
faulted. And to justifie mine owne candor, (for I lov'd the man, and doe honour his memory (on
this side Idolatry) as much as any.) Hee was (indeed) honest, and of an open, and free nature :
had an excellent Phantsie ; brave notions, and gentle expressions : wherein hee flow'd with
that facility, that sometime it was necessary he should be stop'd : Sufflaminandus erat ; as
Augustus said of Haterius. His wit was in his owne power ; would the rule of it had beene so
too. Many times hee fell into those things, could not escape laughter : As when hee said in the
person of Caesar, one speaking to him ; Caesar, thou dost me wrong. Hee replyed : Caesar did
never wrong, but with just cause : and such like ; which were ridiculous. But hee redeemed his
vices, with his vertues. There was ever more in him to be praysed, then to be pardoned.
---------------------------------------------------
. Sonnet 99
.
. THe forward violet thus did I chide,
. Sweet theefe whence didst thou steale thy sweet that smels
. If not from my loues breath,the purple pride,
. Which on thy soft cheeke for complexion dwells?
. In my loues veines thou hast too grosely died,
.
. The Lillie I conde[M]ned for thy hand,
. [A]nd buds of {MARIE}[R]o(M) h(A)d (S)t(O)l(N)e th[Y] haire,
. The Roses [F]earefully on thornes did stand,
. {O(NE)} blushing shame,an other white dispaire:
.
. A third nor red, nor white,had stolne of both,
. And to his robbry had annext thy breath,
. But {FOR} his theft in pride of {ALL} his growth
. A vengfull canker eate him vp to death.
.
. More flowers I noted,yet I none could see,
. But sweet,or culler it had stolne from thee.
..................................................
. <= 14 =>
.
. L i l l i e I c o n d e [M] n
. e d f o r t h y h a n d,[A] n
. d b u d s o f{M A R I E}[R] o
. (M)h(A)d(S)t(O)l(N)e t h [Y] h
. a i r e,T h e R o s e s [F] e
. a r e f u l l y o n t h o r
. n e s d i d s t a n d,
(MASON) 2 : Prob. in any sonnet ~ 1 in 38
[MARY F.] 14 : Prob. in any sonnet ~ 1 in 19
{MARIE} 1 : one of 2 {MARIE/MARY} sonnet "flowers."
.........................................................
http://www.shakespeares-sonnets.com/Archive/99comm.htm
<<Uniquely among the 154 Sonnets, Sonnet 99 alone has 15 lines instead of the usual 14. The young man appears to have stolen the poet's mistress. In this sonnet the guilty party is the various conventional beauties of nature, the violet, lily, marjoram [{MARIE}Rom] and rose, which have committed theft. One is tempted to conclude that theft is inherent in nature - the youth is stolen from, but he will steal, or has already stolen from others. All things steal from each other and the world is an amoral place to live in.>>
----------------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Fitton
<<[MARY F]itton (Baptised 24 June 1578 - 1647) was a maid of honour to Queen Elizabeth. She is noted for her scandalous affairs with [W]illiam [H]erbert, 3rd Earl of Pembroke and others. She is considered by some to be the "Dark Lady" of Shakespeare's sonnets.>>
.........................................................
http://literature.org/authors/kemp-william/nine-daies-morrice.html
William Kempe dedicated _Nine Daies Wonder_ (1600)
to "Mistress {ANNE??} [FITTON]"
<<Honorable (M)istris in the waine of my little wit, I (A)m forst to desire your
protection, else every B(A)llad-sing{E}r will proclaime me bankrupt of ho(N)esty
A sort o[F] mad fellows seei{N}g me me(R)rily dispos'd in a Morrice, have so
bepa[I]nted mee in pri(N)t si{N}c{E} my gambols began from (L)ondo{N} to Norwich,
[T]hat (h(A)ving but a{N} ill f{A}ce before) I shall app(E|A}re to the world
wi[T]h(O)ut a face, if your fayre hand wipe (N)ot away their foule colours.
[O]ne hath written K{E}mps farewell to the tu{N}e of Kery, merym Buffe:
a[N]other his desperate d{A}ungers in his late travaile: the third
his entertainement to New-Mark(E)t; which towne I came never
neere by the length of halfe the heath...>>
.......................................................................
. <= 53 =>
.
. Honorab l e(M)ist r isinthew a i n e o fmylittlewitIAmf o rsttodesi
. reyourp r o t ect i onelseev e r y B(A)lladsingErwillpr o claimemeb
. ankrupt o f h oNe s tyAsorto [F] m a d f ellowsseeiNgmeme(R)rilydispo
. sdinaMo r r i ceh a vesobepa [I] n t e d meeinpriNtsiNcEm y gambolsbe
. ganfrom(L)o n don t oNorwich [T] h a t h AvingbutaNillfAc e beforeIsh
. allappE A r e tot h eworldwi [T] h(O)u t afaceifyourfayre h andwipeNo
. tawayth e i r fou l ecolours [O] n e h a thwrittenKEmpsfa r ewelltoth
. etuNeof K e r yme r ymBuffea [N] o t h e rhisdesperatedAu n gersinhis
. latetra v a i let h ethirdhi s e n t e rtainementtoNewM a rkEtwhich
. towneIc a m e nev e rneereby t h e l e ngthofhalfethehe a th
.
[FITTON] 53 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 500
(MARLO) 70 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 48
(ANNE) 77,77
{ANNE} -55,-24,-19 : Prob. 5 {ANNE}s ~ 1 in 47
------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
Aug 10, 2016, 2:52:28 PM8/10/16
to
> {HEN(RY)} 26
"HENRY" does not appear in an equidistant letter sequence, Art. Hint: The skip between the "R" and the "Y" is one. Evidently you cannot count as high as one, Art, so I marvel that you continue to attempt -- haplessly -- to find equidistant letter sequences with larger skips.
Skips larger than one are *way* beyond your capability, Art -- indeed, even skips of one appear to be beyond your capacity to comprehend. You should confine yourself for now to equidistant letter sequences of skip one -- if and when you can make sense of those (in English, or in any other natural language), then you can progress to larger skips.
> [CONSTA.] 57
"CONSTA [sic]" is meaningless, moronic nonsense, Art.
Your batting aVERage is zero, Art.
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Constable
>
> <<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known
> particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences.
But Art -- "Diana -- Henry Constable" is a perfect anagram of
>
> <<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known
> particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences.
Baloney in Art C. N.'s head!
[Crackpot cryptography and more lunatic logorrhea snipped]
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
Aug 10, 2016, 5:02:32 PM8/10/16
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Lea wrote:
<<But Art -- you said *yourself* that equidistant letter sequences with a negative skip were unimpressive!>>
I *myself* said that equidistant letter sequences with a negative skip were less impressive.
<<But Art -- you said *yourself* that equidistant letter sequences with a negative skip were unimpressive!>>
> {HEN(RY)} 26
Lea wrote:
<<"HENRY" does not appear in an equidistant letter sequence, Art.>>
> [CONSTA.] 57
"CONSTA [sic]" is meaningless, moronic nonsense, Art.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Constable
>
> <<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known
> particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences.
But Art -- "Diana -- Henry Constable" is a perfect anagram of
Baloney in Art C. N.'s head!
INPNC= 5/18 (assuming that "C." & "N" mean something.)
Baloney in Art C. N.'s head!
to be praysed, then to be pardoned.
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Art Neuendorffer
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nordicskiv2
Aug 11, 2016, 11:17:57 AM8/11/16
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On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 5:02:32 PM UTC-4, Arthur Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter) wrote:
> Arthur Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter) wrote:
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
> Arthur Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter) wrote:
> > {HEN(RY)} 26
>
> Lea wrote:
>
> <<"HENRY" does not appear in an equidistant letter sequence, Art.>>
> That's why I wrote: "HEN(RY)"
> > [CONSTA.] 57
> "CONSTA [sic]" is meaningless, moronic nonsense, Art.
> That's why I wrote: "CONSTA."
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Constable
> >
> > <<Henry Constable (1562 – 9 October 1613) was an English poet, known
> > particularly for Diana, one of the first English sonnet sequences.
> But Art -- "Diana -- Henry Constable" is a perfect anagram of
>
> Baloney in Art C. N.'s head!
>
> INPNC= 5/18 (assuming that "C." & "N" mean something.)
Incidentally, Art, just as "Art" is a shortened form of "Arthur", so "C." is the initial letter of "Carl" and "N." is the initial letter of "Noonedafter". I remember someone (Caius?) speculating in h.l.a.s. years ago that Richard Kennedy had grown so senile that he could not even remember his own name, but I neVER expected your senility to advance to that stage.
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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> Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
Aug 11, 2016, 2:29:45 PM8/11/16
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. Edward [DE UERE] (born April 12 1550)
. Shepheardes Calender Aprill (G-LOSS-E)
.
The widowes: He calleth Rosalind the widowes daughter of the glenne, that is, of a *COUNTRY HAMLET* or borough, which I thinke is rather sayde to coloure and concele the person, then simply spoken. For it is well knowen, even in spighte of Colin and Hobbinoll, that shee is a gentlewoman of no meane house, nor endewed with anye vulgare and common gifts both of nature and manners: but suche indeede, as neede nether Colin be ashamed to have her made knowne by his verses, nor Hobbinol be greved, that so she should be commended to immortalitie for her rare and singular vertues: specially deserving it no lesse then eyther Myrto, the most excellent poete Theo[C|RI}tus his dearli{N}g, [O]r Lauretta, th{E} divi[N]e Petrarc{H}es godde[S]se, or Himera, the *WOR[T]HYE POETE* Stesichorus hys idole: upon whom he is sayd so much to have doted, that, in regard of her excellencie, he scorned and wrote against the beauty of Helena. For which his præsumptuous and unheedie hardinesse, he is sayde by vengeaunce of the gods, thereat being offended, to have lost both his eyes.
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. <= 15 =>
.
. T h e o[C|R I}t u s h i s d e
. a r l i{N}g[O]r L a u r e t t
. a,t h{E}d i v i[N]e P e t r a
. r c{H}e s g o d d e[S]s e,o r
. H i m e r a,t h e*W O R[T]H Y
. E P O E T E*S t e s i c h o r
. u s h y s i d o l e
{HEN(RI)} -14
[CONST.] 17
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...Yfere) together. By the mingling of the redde rose and the white is meant the uniting of the two principall houses of Lancaster and of Yorke: by whose longe discord and deadly debate this realm many yeares was sore traveiled, and almost cleane decayed. Til the famous Henry the Seventh, of the line of Lancaster, taking to wife the most vertuous Princesse Elisabeth, daughter to THE FOURTH [E|D]WARD of the house of Yorke, begat the most royal {H|E]NRY} the Eyght aforesayde, in whom was the first{E} [U]nion of the whyte rose and the redde.
Calliope) o{N|E] of the nine Muses; to whome they assigne the hon(o|R] of all poetical invention, and the firste glor{Y|E] of the heroicall verse.
..................................................
. <= 40 =>
.
.*THEFOURTH [E|D]WARD* ofthehouseofYorkebegatthe
. mostroyal {H|E]NRY}t heEyghtaforesaydeinwhomwa
. sthefirst {E|U]nio n ofthewhyteroseandtheredde
. Calliopeo {N|E]oft h enineMusestowhometheyassi
. gnethehon(o)R] ofa l lpoeticalinventionandthef
. irsteglor {Y|E]oft h eheroicallverse
.
[E/DE UERE] 40
{HEN)R{Y} 40
...................................................
Other say that shee is the goddesse of rhetorick:
but by Virgile it is manifeste, that they mystake the thyng. For there, in hys Epigrams, that arte semeth to be attributed to Polymnia, saying, ‘Signat cuncta manu loquiturque Polymnia gestu:’ which seemeth specially to be meant of action and elocution, both special partes of rhetorick: besyde that her name, which (as some construe it) importeth great remembraunce, conteineth another part; but I holde rather with them, which call her Polymnia, or Polyhymnia, of her good singing.
Bay branches) be the signe of honor and victory, and therfore of myghty conquerors worn in theyr triumphes, and eke of famous poets, as saith Petrarch in hys Sonets, ‘Arbor vittoriosa triomphale, Honor d’imperadori e di poeti,’ &c.
The Graces) be three sisters, the daughters of Jupiter, (whose names are Aglaia, Thalia, Euphrosyne; and Homer onely addeth a fourth, sc. Pasithea) otherwise called Charites, that is, thanks: whom the poetes feyned to be the goddesses of al bountie and comelines, which therefore (as sayth Theodontius) they make three, to wete, that men first ought to be gracious and bountiful to other freely, then to receive benefits at other mens hands curteously, and thirdly, to requite them thankfully: which are three sundry actions in liberalitye. And Boccace saith, that they be paint[E|D] naked (as they were inde[E]de on the tombe of C. Juli[U]s CÆsar) the one having h[E]r backe toward us, and he[R] face fromwarde, as proc[E]eding from us: the other two toward us, noting double thanke to be due to us for the benefit we have done.
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. <= 20 =>
.
. t h a t t h e y b e p a i n t [E|D] n a k
. e d(a s t h e y w e r e i n d e[E] d e o
. n t h e t o m b e o f C.J u l i[U] s C Æ
. s a r)t h e o n e h a v i n g h[E] r b a
. c k e t o w a r d u s,a n d h e[R] f a c
. e f r o m w a r d e,a s p r o c[E] e d i
. n g f r o m u s
[E/DE UERE] 20 : Prob. of both in this GLOSSE ~ 1 in 16,500
. Edward [DE UERE] (born April 12 1550)
. Shepheardes Calender Aprill (G-LOSS-E)
.
The widowes: He calleth Rosalind the widowes daughter of the glenne, that is, of a *COUNTRY HAMLET* or borough, which I thinke is rather sayde to coloure and concele the person, then simply spoken. For it is well knowen, even in spighte of Colin and Hobbinoll, that shee is a gentlewoman of no meane house, nor endewed with anye vulgare and common gifts both of nature and manners: but suche indeede, as neede nether Colin be ashamed to have her made knowne by his verses, nor Hobbinol be greved, that so she should be commended to immortalitie for her rare and singular vertues: specially deserving it no lesse then eyther Myrto, the most excellent poete Theo[C|RI}tus his dearli{N}g, [O]r Lauretta, th{E} divi[N]e Petrarc{H}es godde[S]se, or Himera, the *WOR[T]HYE POETE* Stesichorus hys idole: upon whom he is sayd so much to have doted, that, in regard of her excellencie, he scorned and wrote against the beauty of Helena. For which his præsumptuous and unheedie hardinesse, he is sayde by vengeaunce of the gods, thereat being offended, to have lost both his eyes.
..............................................
. <= 15 =>
.
. T h e o[C|R I}t u s h i s d e
. a r l i{N}g[O]r L a u r e t t
. a,t h{E}d i v i[N]e P e t r a
. r c{H}e s g o d d e[S]s e,o r
. H i m e r a,t h e*W O R[T]H Y
. E P O E T E*S t e s i c h o r
. u s h y s i d o l e
{HEN(RI)} -14
[CONST.] 17
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...Yfere) together. By the mingling of the redde rose and the white is meant the uniting of the two principall houses of Lancaster and of Yorke: by whose longe discord and deadly debate this realm many yeares was sore traveiled, and almost cleane decayed. Til the famous Henry the Seventh, of the line of Lancaster, taking to wife the most vertuous Princesse Elisabeth, daughter to THE FOURTH [E|D]WARD of the house of Yorke, begat the most royal {H|E]NRY} the Eyght aforesayde, in whom was the first{E} [U]nion of the whyte rose and the redde.
Calliope) o{N|E] of the nine Muses; to whome they assigne the hon(o|R] of all poetical invention, and the firste glor{Y|E] of the heroicall verse.
..................................................
. <= 40 =>
.
.*THEFOURTH [E|D]WARD* ofthehouseofYorkebegatthe
. mostroyal {H|E]NRY}t heEyghtaforesaydeinwhomwa
. sthefirst {E|U]nio n ofthewhyteroseandtheredde
. Calliopeo {N|E]oft h enineMusestowhometheyassi
. gnethehon(o)R] ofa l lpoeticalinventionandthef
. irsteglor {Y|E]oft h eheroicallverse
.
[E/DE UERE] 40
{HEN)R{Y} 40
...................................................
Other say that shee is the goddesse of rhetorick:
but by Virgile it is manifeste, that they mystake the thyng. For there, in hys Epigrams, that arte semeth to be attributed to Polymnia, saying, ‘Signat cuncta manu loquiturque Polymnia gestu:’ which seemeth specially to be meant of action and elocution, both special partes of rhetorick: besyde that her name, which (as some construe it) importeth great remembraunce, conteineth another part; but I holde rather with them, which call her Polymnia, or Polyhymnia, of her good singing.
Bay branches) be the signe of honor and victory, and therfore of myghty conquerors worn in theyr triumphes, and eke of famous poets, as saith Petrarch in hys Sonets, ‘Arbor vittoriosa triomphale, Honor d’imperadori e di poeti,’ &c.
The Graces) be three sisters, the daughters of Jupiter, (whose names are Aglaia, Thalia, Euphrosyne; and Homer onely addeth a fourth, sc. Pasithea) otherwise called Charites, that is, thanks: whom the poetes feyned to be the goddesses of al bountie and comelines, which therefore (as sayth Theodontius) they make three, to wete, that men first ought to be gracious and bountiful to other freely, then to receive benefits at other mens hands curteously, and thirdly, to requite them thankfully: which are three sundry actions in liberalitye. And Boccace saith, that they be paint[E|D] naked (as they were inde[E]de on the tombe of C. Juli[U]s CÆsar) the one having h[E]r backe toward us, and he[R] face fromwarde, as proc[E]eding from us: the other two toward us, noting double thanke to be due to us for the benefit we have done.
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. <= 20 =>
.
. t h a t t h e y b e p a i n t [E|D] n a k
. e d(a s t h e y w e r e i n d e[E] d e o
. n t h e t o m b e o f C.J u l i[U] s C Æ
. s a r)t h e o n e h a v i n g h[E] r b a
. c k e t o w a r d u s,a n d h e[R] f a c
. e f r o m w a r d e,a s p r o c[E] e d i
. n g f r o m u s
[E/DE UERE] 20 : Prob. of both in this GLOSSE ~ 1 in 16,500
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