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lyra

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May 15, 2003, 4:22:59 PM5/15/03
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So many Blounts keep turning up in my studies
that I am starting to try and keep track of them...

for example, a quote from Peter Farey's essay...

"Taking just one of these works, Hero and Leander, we discover from
Edward Blount's
dedication in 1598 that the author was dead by then, and that he had
been a good friend of the dedicatee, Thomas Walsingham, as well as of
Blount himself. A reference to the same work, circulating in
manuscript in Autumn 1593, allows us to get nearer to the date of the
poet's death, however, when Thomas Edwards wrote that "Leander's
gone". (1)"

http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/names.htm

is this a relative of the
Mary Blount
married to
Lewis Lewkenor?

(quote of Peter Farey's recent post)

If you go to the Parish Records of Selsey, you will find that
Lewis Lewknor was born there in 1565, the son of Thomas Lewknor
and Bridget (nee Lewis) who were married there the year before.
Lewis was the eldest of six brothers.

In 1590, he married Mary Blount,
and their children (also born
in Selsey) were Thomas (1595), Lewes (1596) and Bridget (1599).

(unquote)

Since a Bessie Blount
provided
King Henry VIII
with a son...
who could have become King of England...
(the Duke of Richmond)
I guess the Blounts to be an important family,
and therefore
all Blounts to be of the one same family.

and then there is Christopher Blount...

(quote)

Penelope Devereux Rich's own JOY also returned: after having spurned
Sidney's advances she apparently had no qualms about becoming the
mistress & then the wife of Lord MOUNTJOY/Charles BLOUNT (1562-1606)

The Mysterious Sir Christopher BLOUNT was:
1) possibly the murderer of Leicester,
2) co-conspirator & step-father of Essex (Robert Devereux),
3) step-father of Penelope Devereux Rich Blount (first love of Sir
Philip Sidney & wife of Charles Blount, 8th Lord Mountjoy),
4) brother of Edward Blount - MOUNTJOY's servant (& F.F. publisher?)
5) nephew of Boar's Inn owner Jane Poley,
6) nephew of Stratford's John Combe III,

7) 1st cousin to Deptford co-conspirator Robert Poley,

8) nephew of Anne/Agnes Wentworth, (aunt to Oxford's brother-in-law
William Wentworth).

(unquote)

From: Neuendorffer
Subject: The Mysterious Christopher Blount
Date: 1998/12/30


I especially like the reference to
Robert Poley,
just before the Deptford anniversary!

* * * * * *

lyra

lyra

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May 17, 2003, 2:36:32 PM5/17/03
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lyra wrote in message news:<4ec4c9f5.03051...@posting.google.com>...

> So many Blounts keep turning up in my studies
> that I am starting to try and keep track of them...
>
> for example, a quote from Peter Farey's essay...
>
> "Taking just one of these works, Hero and Leander, we discover from
> Edward Blount's
> dedication in 1598 that the author was dead by then, and that he had
> <snip>
> http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/names.htm
>
> is this a relative of the
> Mary Blount
> married to
> Lewis Lewkenor?
>
> (quote of Peter Farey's recent post)
>
> If you go to the Parish Records of Selsey, you will find that
> Lewis Lewknor was born there in 1565, the son of Thomas Lewknor
> and Bridget (nee Lewis) who were married there the year before.
> Lewis was the eldest of six brothers.
>
> In 1590, he married Mary Blount,
> and their children (also born
> in Selsey) were Thomas (1595), Lewes (1596) and Bridget (1599).
>
> (unquote)


I'd add that there's a
Samuel Lewknor, apparently a Cecil agent,
in *The Reckoning* (by Charles Nicholl)...
connected to the "Hesketh plot" (and the
Earl of Derby).

WILLIAM corbett

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Jul 2, 2014, 7:56:05 AM7/2/14
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Lots of erroneous information flying around there. Selsey parish records only start in 1594 and No Baptisms or burials were entered between 1597 - 1601. Those Leawckner (sic) births and burials recorded are:-


07/07/1594 Mary Mr. Richard (Gent)Not given LEAWCKNOR

30/11/1595 Joan Mr. Richard (Gent) Not given LEAWCKNER

Burial 28/06/1596 LEAWEKNOR John Esq. [B/T's only]

02/12/1596 Lewes Mr. Lewes Not given LEWCKNOR

Burial 03/09/1605 LEWKNOR Richard (Gent)

records are available from here www.prtsoc.org.uk

marco

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Jul 2, 2014, 1:28:05 PM7/2/14
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Peter F.

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Jul 3, 2014, 5:29:08 AM7/3/14
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WILLIAM corbett wrote:
>
> Peter Farey wrote:
> >
> > If you go to the Parish Records of Selsey, you will find
> > that Lewis Lewknor was born there in 1565, the son of
> > Thomas Lewknor and Bridget (nee Lewis) who were married
> > there the year before. Lewis was the eldest of six
> > brothers.
> >
> > In 1590, he married Mary Blount, and their children (also
> > born in Selsey) were Thomas (1595), Lewes (1596) and
> > Bridget (1599).
>
> Lots of erroneous information flying around there. Selsey
> parish records only start in 1594 and No Baptisms or burials
> were entered between 1597 - 1601. Those Leawckner (sic)
> births and burials recorded are:-
>
> 07/07/1594 Mary Mr. Richard (Gent)Not given LEAWCKNOR
>
> 30/11/1595 Joan Mr. Richard (Gent) Not given LEAWCKNER
>
> Burial 28/06/1596 LEAWEKNOR John Esq. [B/T's only]
>
> 02/12/1596 Lewes Mr. Lewes Not given LEWCKNOR
>
> Burial 03/09/1605 LEWKNOR Richard (Gent)
>
> records are available from here www.prtsoc.org.uk

What can I tell you? In 2003 I visited the West Sussex
Records Office(Chichester?) specifically to find out
what I could about Lewis Lewknor's background, and
discovered from the original documents the details
which I gave above. Unfortunately, I am unable to lay
my hands on the notes which I made at the time, so I
can't tell you whether it was the original parish
records or the bishop's transcripts where I found the
details, but I can assure you that they were there at
the time!

Peter F.
<http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/>

Peter F.

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Jul 3, 2014, 10:53:53 AM7/3/14
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William,

This is very interesting, since much of the information
I gave about Lewes Lewknor's background doesn't appear
in the ONDB, and there was no entry for him in the
earlier Dictionary of National Biography.

Comparing what they say with what I found -

a) They say that he was born "c.1560", whereas I found
that his baptism was in 1565.
b) "He was "the first surviving son of Thomas Lewknor
[...] and his first wife, Bridget, the daughter of John
Lewes of Selsey", and I said he was "the son of Thomas
Lewknor and Bridget (nee Lewis) who were married there
the year before. I give the year of their marriage as
1564 (when the ODNB would have him about 4 years old),
but which they don't mention.
c) They say nothing about any siblings, whereas I found
five younger brothers.
d) They say he had "a third wife, Mary, the daughter of
Richard Blount of Dedisham, Sussex, whom he had married
some time after 1605", whereas what I said was "In 1590,
he married Mary Blount". Still five years out!
e) As regards his children by Mary, they say that Lewes
was survived "by at least his first son, Thomas." I found
that "their children (also born in Selsey) were Thomas
(1595), Lewes (1596) and Bridget (1599)."

Yet you say "Selsey parish records only start in 1594 and
Baptisms or burials were entered between 1597 - 1601." So
where on earth did I get his 1565 birth, his parents' 1564
marriage, his five younger brothers, his own marriage in
1590, and the birth dates of his sons Thomas and Lewes
from?

The only apparently relevant source for what they claim
is W. D. Cooper, 'Pedigree of the Lewknor family', Sussex
Archaeological Collections, 3 (1850), 89-102, but my
information certainly came either from the Selsey parish
registers or the bishop's transcripts. So what has
happened to those records in the last eleven years or
so? I'm hardly likely to be making it all up, am I?

"Erroneous information"? I don't think so! I recommend
a trip to Chichester for you to see what is going on.

Peter F.
<http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/>

marco

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Aug 7, 2014, 8:27:43 PM8/7/14
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WILLIAM corbett

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:25:18 AM4/9/18
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Hi Peter, thanks for your reply, I meant no disparagement with my erroneous information comment, I am just keen to find the birth register for Lewes Lewkenor or LEAWCKNOR as the register spell the family name. I have checked the W. Sussex Bishop's register and the Selsey register starts in 1571, I suspect he may have been registered somewhere else in Sussex, I will have to go to Chichester and go through them, unless you can help save me the journey!

Much of your info is certainly invaluable! Although he married Mary Blount after the death of his 2nd wife in 1605.

WILLIAM corbett

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Oct 25, 2018, 4:14:11 PM10/25/18
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Hi Peter, I finally made it down to the records office but had no joy finding Lewes Lewkenor's baptism record. Any help would be appreciated!
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