Controversy continues to rage over Cdn-owned Shakespeare portra
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Controversy continues to rage over Cdn-owned Shakespeare portrait
Matthew Chung
Canadian Press
Saturday, May 20, 2006
TORONTO (CP) - A Canadian-owned portrait of William Shakespeare is at
the heart of a transatlantic debate over who can lay claim to the only
authentic sketch of the Bard.
The so-called Sanders Portrait, which will be the centrepiece of a
southwestern Ontario Shakespeare festival to be held next year, is
going head-to-head until the end of the month with five other
"contender" portraits in London's National Portrait Gallery.
Four of those portraits have been discounted as fakes.
But the gallery is standing behind the so-called Chandos portrait, the
first painting presented to the facility in 1856.
The Sanders Portrait, believed to have been sketched in 1603 by a
friend of a then 39-year-old Shakespeare, is the property of Ottawa
resident Lloyd Sullivan, 73, who says his heritage can be traced back
to the portrait-painter John Sanders.
The retired engineer has put his portrait through tree-ring dating of
the wood it was sketched on, radiographic testing of the canvas and
radiocarbon testing of the paper label on the back of the painting. He
also tracked his genealogy back to 1607, which he says makes it almost
certain that his painting is authentic.
All that's left is to trace his heritage into the 1500s and to date the
ink of the painting. But Sullivan was told to wait for the technology
to improve so a smaller sample of the painting could be used.
"If the ink dates back to that time, it proves that my ancestor knew
when Shakespeare was born, knew when he died," Sullivan said.
The national gallery's website, in promoting its "Searching for
Shakespeare" event, lumps the Sanders portrait in with four other
portraits which it says are "purporting to represent Shakespeare."
Of the Chandos, it says, "the identity of this picture is still
considered unproven and today we have no certain lifetime portrait of
England's most famous poet and playwright."
Daniel Fischlin, a University of Guelph professor and the leader of an
ongoing study on all adaptations of Shakespeare's works, said the
"business of Shakespeare" plays a large role in this battle of the
Bards.
"The licensing fees around who owns the authentic image is critical,"
he said. "There's tremendous national self-interest as well.
"Who owns the most authentic portrait? It's got to be England, you
know?"
Details of the "Shakespeare - Made in Canada" festival - to be held in
Guelph, Ont., in January 2007 - will be released Wednesday.
© The Canadian Press 2006
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Elizabeth
lyra wrote:
> Saturday » May 20 » 2006
Hey, Lyra. We wuz wondering where you wuz. ; )
> Controversy continues to rage over Cdn-owned Shakespeare portrait
>
> Matthew Chung
> Canadian Press
>
>
> Saturday, May 20, 2006
>
>
> TORONTO (CP) - A Canadian-owned portrait of William Shakespeare is at
> the heart of a transatlantic debate over who can lay claim to the only
> authentic sketch of the Bard.
>
> The so-called Sanders Portrait, which will be the centrepiece of a
> southwestern Ontario Shakespeare festival to be held next year, is
> going head-to-head until the end of the month with five other
Bacon's grandmother was Alice Saunders (same spelling as the
label on the back of the portrait) and there was a cousin,
I suppose, a John Saunders. Bacon's genetics are a match
for the portrait, Bacon wore the 'umble Kersey brown
as some kind of a statement, I suppose about his bastardy.
The sitter has the famous sweet, sad expression that his
friends often remarked on, but there's no chance that
Stephanie Nolan will consider Bacon or for that matter
Oxford, because the Baconians (and Oxfordians) look like
'lunatics' to Nolan.
Shakespeare's Face: Unraveling the Legend and History of Shakespeare's
Mysterious Portrait
by Stephanie Nolen
Pages 1 - 10 of 11 in book for bacon. (0.00 seconds)
Page 105
It did not seem to matter that Bacon's two distinctive modes of
thinking-arcane ... Bacon was an extremely busy politician. His own
efforts at drama were ...
Page 124
Thanks to Nelson's researches . . .
HAHAH!!! That's optimistic. What is Nelson, 2,897,409
on the Amazon best seller list? Mark Anderson is probably
in the low 20,000s.
I just checked. Mark has dropped to #138,369 in Books
but he's up from the day before while Nelson, astonishingly,
has come up from 2 million something to a whopping
#855,012.
Oxford must be selling books. Wheee!
. . . the case for Oxford as Shakespeare will die in
the early twenty-first century, just as that for Bacon died in the
early ...
Maybe not.
Bacon is way up in academia -- I'm actually surprised
how well he's doing despite AL GORE AND THE RADICAL
FEMINISTS.
Page 127
The debates about the Earl of Oxford and Francis Bacon struck him as
either
lunatic conspiracy theories or academic self-indulgence. ...
Page 160
Moreover, if we establish that Shakespeare wrote Bacon's Organon and
that the
same author was responsible for both the works of Shakespeare and those
of ...
Page 161
6 In his previous books he had detected Bacon's signatures cunningly
hidden in
the "Shakespeare" text, some in acrostics. Using a method of
identification ...
Page 169
... it largely responsible for "the campaign against 'the man from
Stratford' and
the attempts to dethrone him in favor of Lord Bacon, the Earl of Derby,
...
Page 169
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In a series of increasingly urgent phone messages, a very kind young
man named
Brad explained to me that Francis Bacon wrote the "Shakespeare"
plays, ...
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Art Neuendorffer
>>Controversy continues to rage over Cdn-owned Shakespeare portrait
>>
>>Matthew Chung
>>Canadian Press
>>
>>Saturday, May 20, 2006
>>
>>TORONTO (CP) - A Canadian-owned portrait of William Shakespeare is at
>>the heart of a transatlantic debate over who can lay claim to the only
>>authentic sketch of the Bard.
>>
>>The so-called Sanders Portrait, which will be the centrepiece of a
>>southwestern Ontario Shakespeare festival to be held next year, is
>>going head-to-head until the end of the month with five other
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Elizabeth wrote:
> Bacon's grandmother was Alice Saunders (same spelling as the
> label on the back of the portrait) and there was a cousin,
> I suppose, a John Saunders. Bacon's genetics are a match
> for the portrait, Bacon wore the 'umble Kersey brown
> as some kind of a statement, I suppose about his bastardy.
> The sitter has the famous sweet, sad expression that his
> friends often remarked on, but there's no chance that
> Stephanie Nolan will consider Bacon or for that matter
> Oxford, because the Baconians (and Oxfordians) look like
> 'lunatics' to Nolan.
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The Great Shakespeare Faceoff
http://www.hollowaypages.com/Shakespeareimages.htm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com
February 4, 2006 James Adams
What is more worrisome to Cooper is the face of the sitter. "To my
eye, the man we encounter appears considerably younger than 39, with
his soft, downy facial hair, smooth skin, flushed soft cheeks and
full head of hair," she has written. It's a view shared by noted
British Shakespeare scholar Stanley Wells, among others, who
said the Sanders portrait is of an Englishman in his late 20s.
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Francis Bacon, of course, would have been 42!
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Art Neuendorffer
Elizabeth
> > lyra wrote:
>
> What is more worrisome to Cooper is the face of the sitter. "To my
> eye, the man we encounter appears considerably younger than 39, with
> his soft, downy facial hair, smooth skin, flushed soft cheeks and
> full head of hair," she has written. It's a view shared by noted
> British Shakespeare scholar Stanley Wells, among others, who
> said the Sanders portrait is of an Englishman in his late 20s.
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Francis Bacon, of course, would have been 42!
> ----------------------------------------------------
Don't tell me you're claiming the Saunders for Oxford.
Bacon's life is veritable crime scene, Neuendorffer.
The Strats and Oxfordians have looted it.
Bacon never got out in the sun so his skin stayed young.
There's a nice English portrait of him in his mid-fifties
and his skin is flawless.
This guy has got lovely skin but he's also got lines
around his eyes. His male pattern balding is more 40s
than 20s. Bacon missed a lot of meals when he was young.
This guy is thin like Bacon. Bacon only porked up when
he got a high stress job, Attny. Gen.
If you read the article again, there's some hesitation
about testing the label. Schliemann, I think, rejected
the label as 19th century. The suspicion was that the
label was dated based on the broker's birthday.
I have read about, but can't recall, all the marking
and writing on the back of the frame but I do know the
label is under contention.
That doesn't mean that the painting is not authentic
if it stayed in the Saunders family as long as it did.
It's obviously an amateur English work, 16th century ,
and there is a record of the Saunders quarreling over
it that goes way back.
Bacon has the best claim to it if it can be authenticated
because
B a c o n i s a S a u n d e r s.
lol!!
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it doesn't look like the Droeshout
the Chandos does it for me though
now i do like the Chandos, so i may,
to some degree, "want" it to be him
waterboy
Elizabeth
The Droeshout is a jeste. Jonson edited the
First Folio and is responsible for the First Folio
frontmatter. A number of critics think Jonson wrote
the Heminges-Condell material because it's in Jonson's
style. It's also an insult to Pembroke and Montgomery
but Pembroke was Jonson's adoring patron and would
think it extremely funny as long as Jonson wrote it.
Heminges and Condell couldn't be so familiar with
earls.
> the Chandos does it for me though
I don't reject the Chandos. Amateur portraiture
is so inconsistent both paintings could be the
same subject. Both paintings have the same
checklist of genetic features including the
rare-in-the-English brown eyes and red hair.
> now i do like the Chandos, so i may,
> to some degree, "want" it to be him
I don't know of any connection between Chandos
and the broker. Bacon was related to Chandos through
his Spencer of Althorpe cousins. Chandos was
married to Elizabeth Stanley the daughter of the
Earl of Derby and Elizabeth Spencer.
The broker and Oxford weren't well-connected enough
to write the Shakespeare works. Oxford's father
didn't even keep a court. The Stanleys kept a court
and patronized poets.