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>>>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

>>>>> Was your post supposed to have had anything
>>>>> whateVER to do with Shakespeare, Art?
.
>>> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> *FREEMASONRY* has EVERything to do with Shakespeare.
.
>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

>>> Since Freemasonry did not even exist at the time,
.
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> It is known when the first English Grand Lodge was constituted.

How would we possibly know when the first English
Grand Lodge of a *SECRET society* was constituted?

>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

>>> the likelihood that it has anything whateVER
>>> to do with Shakespeare seems remote.
>>> But what makes you think (if I may use the word loosely)
>>> that Freemasonry has anything to do with Shakespeare, Art?
.
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Haven't you been listening, at all, Dave?
---------------------------------------------------
_____ *MAR-LO*
_____ *HI-RAM*
---------------------------------------------------
. T O T H E O N _____ L I E B E G E T T
. E R O F T H E ______S E I N S V I N G
. S O N N E T S _ M _ R W H A L L H A
. P P I N E S S E __ A ___N D T H A T E
. T E R N I T I E P ___R O ___M I S E D
. B Y O V R E V E R _ L_I____V I N G P
. O E T W I S H E T H T _ H___ E W E L
. L W I S H I N G A D V E _____ N T V R
. E R I N S E T T I N G F_______O R T H
-------------------------------------------------------
Some interesting 5-letter Rollett strings
"found in arrays based on the first 144 letters
of the dedication to Shakespeare's Sonnets.":
.
*HIRAM* : 1706u (Masonic mystery man)
.
Terry Ross site: http://shakespeareauthorship.com/wds1.html
----------------------------------------------------------
From: Terry Ross (tr...@bcpl.net)
Subject: Re: Rosencraft & Guildenstone flip coins
Newsgroups: humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare
Date: 2000-11-27 03:53:28 PST
.
Odds of picking 5 letters at random out of the 144 in the dedication
and getting *HIRAM* are 10/144 * 14/143 * 9/142* 5/141 * 2/140
or about 1 in 4.6 million. There are 2520 5-letter slots in the
arrays, & since Rollett allowed words to appear reading either up
or down, there are in effect 5040 places to search for *HIRAM*.
.
. The chance of finding *HIRAM* somewhere
. in some array is thus about 1 in 909.
-----------------------------------------------------------
>>http://tinyurl.com/lbgzk4
>>http://www.sirbacon.org/dodd.html
>>http://www.sirbacon.org/Dawkinsfrmsnry.htm
>>http://www.masoncode.com/ShakespearesMark.htm
>>http://www.masonicdictionary.com/shakespeare.html
>>http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107025
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Most of your "sources" are nutcase web sites of the
> sort that your Credulous Cretin persona frequents, Art.

So what about the ones that aren't?

>> Mykeedeemus <pigsno...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>>> To The Memorie of the Deceaced Author Master W. SHAKESPEARE.
>>> by one L. Digges:

>>> Shake-speare, at length thy *pious fellowes* give
>>> The world thy Workes : thy Workes, by which, out-live
>>> Thy Tombe, thy name must when that stone is rent,
>>> And Time dissolves thy Stratford Moniment,
>>> Here we alive shall view thee still.
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> "David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

>>> The *pious fellowes* are Templars & Rosicrucians,
>>> brethren of those pious fraternal orders whose initiates
>>> would soon become [F]ELLOWS of the [R]oyal [S]ociety.
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> One hesitates to explain a jest,

Especially if the *IEST* is somewhat sacreligious:
-----------------------------------------------
. GOOD FREND FOR [IE]{SVS}' SAKE FORBEARE,
___ TO DIGG THE DV[ST] ENCLOASED HEARE:
-----------------------------------------------
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> . 1742 Alexander Pope: THE DUNCIAD: BOOK IV

> But Art -- "The Dunciad" would be a VERy fitting
> title for your autobiography.
.
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> . "Who study *Shakespeare* at the Inns of Court,
>> . Impale a glow-WORM, or VERts profess,
>> . SHINE in the dignity of *F.R.S.* ,
>> . [S]ome, *DEEP Free-Masons*, join the silent race,
>> . [W]orthy to fill PYTHAGORAS's place"
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> So? A Catholic anti-Mason (named Pope, no less!) cannot be trusted
> in matters involving our Order, which to the devout Pope was anathema.

Has he violated your LOCK, Dave?
.
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> . . http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/west.htm

>> . . The *SOLEMN TEMPLES* [*SOLOMON TEMPLES*]
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> No, Art; "solemn" is a perfectly common English word

And what about: *SOLEMN TEMPLES*
___________ *SPELLS MEMENTO*
--------------------------------------------------------
. King Henry IV, Part i Act 2, Scene 4
.
FALSTAFF: if they speak more or less than *TRUTH*,
. they are villains and the sons of *DARKNESS*.
.
. Act 3, Scene 3
.
FALSTAFF: No, I'll be sworn; I make as good use of it as many
. a man doth of a Death's-head or a *MEMENTO MORI* : I
. nEVER see thy face but I think upon hell-fire and
. Dives that lived in purple; for there he is in his
. robes, burning, burning. If thou wert any way
. given to virtue, I would swear by thy face; my oath
. should be 'By this fire, that's God's angel:' but
. thou art altogether given over; and wert indeed, but
. for the light in thy face, the son of utter
. *DARKNESS*. When thou rannest up Gadshill in the
. night to catch my horse, if I did not think thou
. hadst been an ignis fatuus or a ball of wildfire,
. there's no purchase in money. O, thou art a
. perpetual triumph, an EVERlasting bonfire-light!
--------------------------------------------------------
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> . . . . The Great Globe itself
>> . . . . Yea all which it Inherit,
>> . . . . . *Shall Dissolue* ;
>> . . And like the baseless *FnBRICK* of a Vision
>> . . . . Leave not a *WRECK* behind."
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> . . . . *DI*ssol*VERE*
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Dissolve, v.t. [L. *DI*ssol*VERE* ; dis- + solvere to loose, free.]
>> . . 1. To separate into competent parts; to disorganize;
>> . to break up; hence, to bring to an end by separating the parts,
>> . . sundering a relation, etc.; to terminate; to destroy;
>> . . . to deprive of force.
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> *LOSS* , n. [AS. los *LOSS* , losing, fr. le['o]san to lose.]
>> . 1. The act of losing; failure; destruction; privation;
>> . as, the loss of property; loss of health or reputation.

>> Assured *LOSS* before the match be played. --Shak.

>> 2. The state of losing or having lost; the privation, defect,
>> . . misfortune, harm, etc., which ensues from losing.

>> . Though thou repent, yet I have still the *LOSS* . --Shak

>> 3. That which is lost or from which one has parted; waste.

>> 4. The state of being lost or destroyed; especially,
>> . the *WRECK* or foundering of a ship or other vessel.

.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Huh? This has to so with Shakespeare, but it has nothing whateVER
> to do with Freemasonry, Art. The word "waste" is of course
> associated with Tristero, but that's a different conspiracy
> unaffiliated with ours.
------------------------------------------------------
"That I do *WASTE* with OTHERS' LOVE,
. that *HATH* myself in *HATE* ," - E.O.
http://www3.telus.net/oxford/oxfordspoems.html#toppoems
.......................................................
<<If OTHERS have their WILL Ann *HATH* a way.>> - James Joyce
.
. 'I HATE' from *HATE* away SHE threw,
. And sav'd my life, saying 'not you' - Sonnet 145
-------------------------------------------------------------
. JOYCE: Ulysses, Scylla & Charybdis
.
STEPHEN( *Stringendo* .) He has hidden his own name, a fair name,
William, in the plays, a super here, a clown there, as a painter
of old Italy set his face in a dark corner of his canvas.
.
He has *REVEalED* it in the sonnets
where there is *wIl{L IN OVER}plUS* ( *VERO NIL VERIUS* ) .
.
Like John O'Gaunt his name is dear to him, as dear as
the coat of arms he toadied for, *on a BEND* sable a
spear or steeled argent, honorificabilitudinitatibus,
dearer than his glory of greatest shakescene
in the country. What's in a name?
-------------------------------------------
. "{H}aste maketh *WASTE* ."
-- John Heywood. Proverbes. Part i. Chap. ii.
-----------------------------------------------
. SHAKE-SPEARE's bust has 29 buttons
. Capital Letters: 145 (= 5 x 29)
.
__ T O.T H E.
__ O N L I E.
__ B E G E T
__ T E R.O F.
__ T H E S E.
__ I N S V I
__ N G.S O N
__ N E T S Mr
__ [W]H A L L. W{H}
_ A H[A]P P I __ {H}A
_ | _ N E[S]S E. ___ S
_ | _ A N D[T]H ___ T
. [2 9] A T.E T[E] ____ E?
_ | _ R N I T I
_ | _ E P R O M
_ v I S E D.B
__ Y.O V R.E
__ V E R-L I
__ V I N G.P
__ O E T.W I
__ S H E T H.
__ T H E.W E
__ L L-W I S
__ H I N G.A
__ D V E N T
__ V R E R I
__ N.S E T T
__ I N G.F O
__ R T H.T.T.
...................................................
. Shakspere Blazon and Coat of Arms:
. "Gold on a *BEND* sable, a *SPEAR* of the first,"
.
. *BEND* : a diagonal bar, 1/5th the width of the shield,
. from upper left to lower right as one faces the shield.
-------------------------------------------------------------
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> . [B]en [I]onson / [B]oaz & [J]achim / [I]ohn [B]enson
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> There are millions of people who initials are B.I.
> or J.B., Art; they cannot all be Freemasons.

[B]url [I]ves : Magnolia Lodge No. 242 in Santa Barbara, Ca.
http://www.burlives.com/Masons.htm

[J]ason [B]ourne (real name: *David Webb* )
....................................
Billy Idol
Bo Jackson
Bruce Jenner
Billy Joel
Beverly Johnson
Bon Jovi
Benito Juarez
Ingrid Bergman
Ingmar Bergman
Joan Baez
James Baker
Jim Bakker
Joseph Barbera
James Barrie
John Barrymore
Jason Bateman
Justine Bateman
Jean-Paul Belmondo
John Belushi
Jim Belushi
Johnny Bench
Joan Bennett
Jack Benny
Joan Benoit
Joseph Biden
John Birch
Joey Bishop
Jacqueline Bisset
James Bond
Johannes Brahms
Jeff Bridges
James Brolin
Joyce Brothers, Dr.
James Brown
Jerry Brown
Julie Brown
Jim Brown
Jackson Browne
Jimmy Buffett
John Bunyan
----------------
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> What makes you think that Jonson was?

He was the "son of the son of John" (Baptist/Evangelist).

There were even "Sons of Ben Jonson."

And he was a bricklayer's *WIDOW's SON* :
------------------------------------------------
http://www.masonicdictionary.com/widowsson.html

<<In Ancient Craft Masonry, the title applied to *HIRAM*, the
architect of the Temple, because he is said, in the first Book
of Kings (vu, 14) to have been "a *WIDOW's SON* of the tribe of
Naphtali." "The Freemasons call themselves the *WIDOW's SONS* ,
because, after the death of our respectable Master,
the Freemasons took care of his mother,
whose children they called themselves, because
Adonhiram had always considered them as his Brethren.
------------------------------------------------
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> In any case, the only connection
> between Oxford and anything whose initials are "BJ"
> is that Oxford may have enjoyed receiving them from Cogno.

That was BeLOW the belt, Dave!
--------------­------------------------------
Jonson, Ben: LVIII. To Groome *IDEOT*
.
. *IDEOT* , last night, I pray'd thee but *FORBEARE*
. TO reade my *VERsEs* ; now I must to *HEARE* :
. For offring, with thy smiles, my wit to grace,
.
. *Thy ignorance still LAUGHS in the wrong place*
.
. And so my sharpnesse thou no *LESSE* dis-joynts,
. Than thou did'st late my sense, loosing my points.
. So have I seene at Christ-masse sports, *one lost* ,
. And, *HOOD-WINK'D* , for a man, embrace A POST.
---------------------------------------------------------------
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> <<The blindfold is removed and the "lights" of Freemasonry revealed
>> the Volume of the Sacred Law (the Bible), the Square & the Compass.
>> The secret signs, grips & password of the first degree are explained,
>> .
>> . as well as the meaning of [B]OAZ, the left-hand PILLAR>>
>> .
>> <<Again the candidate is conducted around the Temple, new signs
>> . & passwords revealed, and a white apron with two rosettes.
>> .
>> This time he learns the meaning of, [J]ACHIN the right hand PILLAR.>>

.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Huh? This has to do with Freemasonry, but
> it has nothing whateVER to do with Shakespeare, Art.
------------------------------------------------------------
*RITE* , n. [L. ritus; cf. Skr. r[=i]ti a STREAM, a running,
. way, manner, ri: TO FLOW: cf. F. *RIT* , RITE.] A formal
. act of religion or other solemn duty; a solemn observance;
. a ceremony; as, the RITEs of FREEMASONRY.
-------------------------------------------------
. *MNEME RITER*
...............................................
. TOT ___ HEONL ____ IEBE
. GET ___ TEROF ____ THES
. EIN ______ SVING _- [S] ONN
- ETS_ [M] [R] WHA ___ [L] LHA
__ PPI_ [N] [E] SS___- E[A] NDT
_ HAT_ [E] [T] ER____ N[I] TIE
. PRO_ [M]- [I] ___ [S]_ ED[B] YOV
_. REV_ [E] [R] L___ [I]__V[I] NGP
. OET_ _ WISH___[E]_ [T] HTH
. EWE __ LLWI[S.]__[H.] _ ING
. ADV __ ENTV[R.]__[E.] _ RIN
. SET ____ TING[F.]__[O.] _ RTH
...............................................
"Endves tibials" = Dons the Order of the Garter
_____________ [H]enry [E]arl of [O]xford
---------------------------­--------------------
. Much Ado About Nothing Act 4, Scene 1
.
FRIAR FRANCIS: Let her awhile be *secretly* kept in,
. And *publish it that she is dead* indeed;
. Maintain a mourning ostentation
. And on your family's old monument
. Hang mournful epitaphs and DO ALL *RITES*
. That appertain unto a burial.
----------------------------------------------------
. Dear son of *MEMORY*, great HEIR of FAME,
.
. *MNEME* is the Muse of MEMORY
. one of the original 3 Greek *HELICONS*
---------------------------------------------------
. Spenser dedication in Fairie Queene (1590)
.
. To the right Honourable the Earle of Oxenford,
. Lord high Chamberlayne of England. &c.
.
. *Vnder a shady VELE is therein writ* ,
. And eke thine owne long *liuing MEMORY* ,
. Succeeding them in TRUE nobility:
.
. And also for the loue, which thou doest beare
. To th'HELICONian YMPs, and they to thee,
. They vnto thee, and thou to them most deare:
---------------------------------------------------------------
. The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 1, Scene 3
.
PISTOL: *Shall DUNGHILL curs confront the HELICONS* ?
. And shall good news be baffled?
------------------------------------------------------
. King Henry VI, Part ii Act 2, Scene 3

PETER: *HERE* , Robin, an if I die,
________ I GIVE [*GEBE*] thee *MY APRON* :

.
. \G\O O/D/ FRENDFO [R] IESVSSA_ [K] EFORBEAR
- \E\T/O/ DIGGTHED_- [V] STENCLO [Ä] SEDHEARE
- \B L/ ESEBEYEMA_- [N] YTSPARE_ [S] THESSTON
- \E/ SANDCVRSTB- [E] HEYTMOV_ [E] SMYBONES
.
Pyramus: What dreadful *DOLE IS HERE* !
-------------------------------------------------
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> (http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/masons/mrituals.html)
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> . . . King Lear Act 4, Scene 4
>> .
>> CORDELIA: All blest secrets,
>> . All you *unpublish'd virtues* of the earth,
>> . *Spring* with my tears! be aidant and remediate
>> . In the good man's distress! *Seek* , seek for him;
>> . . Lest his ungovern'd rage *dissolve the life*
>> . . That wants the means to lead it.
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Huh? This has to do with Shakespeare, but
> it has nothing whateVER to do with Freemasonry, Art.

Rosicrucians are Scottish Rite *Seekers*
--------------------------------------------------
. . Rosicrucians. . Freemasons
. . Rosy Cross[the Craft] Stone Guild
....................................................
. Q1. Rossencraft. . Gilderstone
. Q2. Rosencrans. . Guyldensterne
. F1. Rosincrane. . Guildensterne
. F2,3,4 Rosincross(e). . Guildenstare
--------------------------------------------------
>>>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

>>>>> Incidentally, Art, have you figured out yet where our
>>>>> annual Shakespeare Authorship Coverup Conspirators'
>>>>> Conclave will meet later this summer?
>>> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Mexico City would be my guess.
.
>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Huh? Why Mexico City?
.
> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It was postponed due to H1N1 & it's near to indian ruins.
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> You're making wild surmises again, Art. Hint:
> Try a little farther south, and during August.

Was Mark Sanford preparing things for you?
----------------------------------------------------
Sanford's South American Adventure
By Dan Balz, Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 24, 2009; 4:08 PM

<<For Mark Sanford, the summer adventure to Argentina -- no,
he was not on the Appalachian Trail as his aides incorrectly
told reporters -- is now a major personal embarrassment,
a story of infidelity and confession that has become all
too familiar from political leaders. "I wanted to do
something exotic," he told the State newspaper
Wednesday morning upon his return from Argentina.>>
----------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer

nordicskiv2

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art <acne...@gmail.com>

(acnew...@gmail.comedy) wrote:

> >>>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Was your post supposed to have had anything
> >>>>> whateVER to do with Shakespeare, Art?

> >>> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >
> >>>> *FREEMASONRY* has EVERything to do with Shakespeare.

> >> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> >>> Since Freemasonry did not even exist at the time,

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > It is known when the first English Grand Lodge was constituted.

> How would we possibly know when the first English
> Grand Lodge of a *SECRET society* was constituted?

You suffer from a comic misconception concerning the nature of many
secret societies, Art. Although our Order guards its explosive
secrets closely, its VERy *existence* is certainly no secret --
indeed, its existence is known even to ignorant, illiterate District
Heights cowans. By the same token, the CIA has the means to guard its
secrets even more closely than we do, yet I suspect that even you are
aware of that organization's existence, Art. I realize that I am
going out on a limb here -- in your case, Art, it is always much safer
to assume that you are blithely unaware of something. Indeed, I have
neVER lost money betting that something was unknown to you; howeVER,
had I been betting that you *did* know something, I would be
impoVERished indeed, Art.

> >> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>> the likelihood that it has anything whateVER
> >>> to do with Shakespeare seems remote.
> >>> But what makes you think (if I may use the word loosely)
> >>> that Freemasonry has anything to do with Shakespeare, Art?

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> Haven't you been listening, at all, Dave?
> ---------------------------------------------------
> _____ *MAR-LO*

Marlowe is not Shakespeare, Art -- although if anyone could
possibly confuse the two, it would surely be you.

> _____ *HI-RAM*
> ---------------------------------------------------
> . T O T H E O N _____ L I E B E G E T T
> . E R O F T H E ______S E I N S V I N G

> . S O N N E T S M _ R W H A L L H A
> . P P I N E S S E ___A ___N D T H A T E


> . T E R N I T I E P ___R O ___M I S E D

> . B Y O V R E V E R - L_I____V I N G P


> . O E T W I S H E T H T _ H___ E W E L
> . L W I S H I N G A D V E _____ N T V R
> . E R I N S E T T I N G F_______O R T H
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Some interesting 5-letter Rollett strings

The "Rollett strings" by which you set such store occur purely
randomly in texts of any reasonable length and complexity, Art. This
is strictly nutcase stuff -- no wonder it resonates with you.

> "found in arrays based on the first 144 letters
> of the dedication to Shakespeare's Sonnets.":
> .
> *HIRAM* : 1706u (Masonic mystery man)

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > Most of your "sources" are nutcase web sites of the sort
> > that your Credulous Cretin persona frequents, Art.

> So what about the ones that aren't?

None of the ones that aren't appear in your list above, Art. I
repeat: this is nutcase stuff.

> >> Mykeedeemus <pigsno...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> To The Memorie of the Deceaced Author Master W. SHAKESPEARE.
> >>> by one L. Digges:
> >
> >>> Shake-speare, at length thy *pious fellowes* give
> >>> The world thy Workes : thy Workes, by which, out-live
> >>> Thy Tombe, thy name must when that stone is rent,
> >>> And Time dissolves thy Stratford Moniment,
> >>> Here we alive shall view thee still.
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >> "David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>> The *pious fellowes* are Templars & Rosicrucians,
> >>> brethren of those pious fraternal orders whose initiates
> >>> would soon become [F]ELLOWS of the [R]oyal [S]ociety.

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > One hesitates to explain a jest,

> Especially if it is somewhat sacreligious [sic]:

"Sacreligious"?! Is English your native tongue, Art? The
confusion engendered by this misspelling and its completely bogus
"etymology" is normally learned by about middle school age.

<http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/sacreligious.html>

> -----------------------------------------------
> . GOOD FREND FOR [IE]{SVS}' SAKE FORBEARE,
> ___ TO DIGG THE DV[ST] ENCLOASED HEARE:
> -----------------------------------------------
> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> . 1742 Alexander Pope: THE DUNCIAD: BOOK IV

> > But Art -- "The Dunciad" would be a VERy fitting
> > title for your autobiography.

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> . "Who study *Shakespeare* at the Inns of Court,
> >> . Impale a glow-WORM, or VERts profess,
> >> . SHINE in the dignity of *F.R.S.* ,
> >> . [S]ome, *DEEP Free-Masons*, join the silent race,
> >> . [W]orthy to fill PYTHAGORAS's place"

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > So? A Catholic anti-Mason (named Pope, no less!) cannot be trusted
> > in matters involving our Order, which to the devout Pope was anathema.

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> . . http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/west.htm
> >
> >> . . The *SOLEMN TEMPLES* [*SOLOMON TEMPLES*]

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > No, Art; "solemn" is a perfectly common English word

...although I concede that it might well be unfamiliar to an
illiterate District Heights boob...

> And what about: *SOLEMN TEMPLES*

> _____________ *SPELLS MEMENTO*

What about it, Art? This is nutcase stuff. First, it is
meaningless; second, even by your own beloved INIPNC, it fails
miserably; indeed, its INIPNC score is zero.

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> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> . . . . The Great Globe itself
> >> . . . . Yea all which it Inherit,
> >> . . . . . *Shall Dissolue* ;
> >> . . And like the baseless *FnBRICK* of a Vision
> >> . . . . Leave not a *WRECK* behind."

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> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Huh? This has to so with Shakespeare, but it has nothing whateVER
> > to do with Freemasonry, Art. The word "waste" is of course
> > associated with Tristero, but that's a different conspiracy
> > unaffiliated with ours.
> ------------------------------------------------------
> "That I do *WASTE* with OTHERS' LOVE,
> . that *HATH* myself in *HATE* ," - E.O.
> http://www3.telus.net/oxford/oxfordspoems.html#toppoems
> .......................................................
> <<If OTHERS have their WILL Ann *HATH* a way.>> - James Joyce
> .
> . 'I HATE' from *HATE* away SHE threw,
> . And sav'd my life, saying 'not you'

> .
> _____ Sonnet 145

Huh? LOTS of writers have used the words "hate," Art; they are not
*all* Shakespeare. This is nutcase stuff.

> . JOYCE: Ulysses, Scylla & Charybdis
> .
> STEPHEN( *Stringendo* .) He has hidden his own name, a fair name,
> William, in the plays, a super here, a clown there, as a painter
> of old Italy set his face in a dark corner of his canvas.
> .
> He has *REVEalED* it in the sonnets
> where there is *wIl{L IN OVER}plUS* ( *VERO NIL VERIUS* ) .
> .
> Like John O'Gaunt his name is dear to him, as dear as
> the coat of arms he toadied for, *on a BEND* sable a
> spear or steeled argent, honorificabilitudinitatibus,
> dearer than his glory of greatest shakescene
> in the country. What's in a name?

"Shakespeare is the happy hunting ground of all minds that have
lost their balance."

-- James Joyce

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]


> . Shakspere Blazon and Coat of Arms:
> . "Gold on a *BEND* sable, a *SPEAR* of the first,"
> .
> . *BEND* : a diagonal bar, 1/5th the width of the shield,
> . from upper left to lower right as one faces the shield.

You've gone completely round the bend, Art.

> -------------------------------------------------------------
> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> . [B]en [I]onson / [B]oaz & [J]achim / [I]ohn [B]enson

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > There are millions of people who initials are B.I.
> > or J.B., Art; they cannot all be Freemasons.

> [B]url [I]ves : Magnolia Lodge No. 242 in Santa Barbara, Ca.
> http://www.burlives.com/Masons.htm

So?

> [J]ason [B]ourne (real name: *David Webb* )

"Real name"? Jason Bourne is a *fictional* character, Art. I
realize, of course, that you have great difficulty distinguishing fact
from fiction -- otherwise you could scarcely be an Oxfordian -- but
your difficulties in this regard exceed even those of Oxfordians far
out on the lunatic fringe: Mr. Streitz, "Buckeye Pete," _et al_.

> Billy Idol
> Bo Jackson
> Bruce Jenner
> Billy Joel
> Beverly Johnson

BeVERly Johnson cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Bon Jovi
> Benito Juarez
> Ingrid Bergman

Ingrid Bergman cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Ingmar Bergman
> Joan Baez

Joan Baez cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the order.

> James Baker
> Jim Bakker
> Joseph Barbera
> James Barrie
> John Barrymore
> Jason Bateman
> Justine Bateman

Justine Bateman cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Jean-Paul Belmondo
> John Belushi
> Jim Belushi
> Johnny Bench
> Joan Bennett

Joan Bennett cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Jack Benny
> Joan Benoit

Joan Benoit cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Joseph Biden
> John Birch
> Joey Bishop
> Jacqueline Bisset

Jacquelin Bisset cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> James Bond

James Bond is a *fictional* character, Art. I realize, of course,
that you have great difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction --
otherwise you could scarcely be an Oxfordian -- but your difficulties
in this regard exceed even those of Oxfordians far out on the lunatic
fringe: Mr. Streitz, "Buckeye Pete," _et al_.

> Johannes Brahms
> Jeff Bridges
> James Brolin
> Joyce Brothers, Dr.

Joyce Brothers cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order -- unless, of course, you wish to hypothesize that "Brothers" is
a fake Masonic name (referring to our Brotherhood) bestowed upon an
invented personage, which I wouldn't put past you.

> James Brown
> Jerry Brown
> Julie Brown

Julie Brown cannot be a Freemason, Art; only men can join the
order.

> Jim Brown
> Jackson Browne
> Jimmy Buffett
> John Bunyan
> ----------------
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > What makes you think that Jonson was?

> He was the "son of the son of John" (Baptist/Evangelist).

So? This fact may have escaped your notice along with virtually
eVERYthing else, Art, but "John" is a VERy common name, and many
millions of men are sons of John. There were even two Johns among the
apostles.

> There were even "Sons of Ben Jonson."

So?

> And he was a bricklayer's *WIDOW's SON* :

So? Most widows' sons have nothing whateVER to do with
Freemasonry, Art. Since Jonson flourished before our Order even came
into existence, he must perforce have been among them.

[...]


> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > In any case, the only connection
> > between Oxford and anything whose initials are "BJ"
> > is that Oxford may have enjoyed receiving them from Cogno.

> That was BeLOW the belt, Dave!

Of course, Art -- that was Oxford's favorite place -- remember?

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> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <<The blindfold is removed and the "lights" of Freemasonry revealed
> >> the Volume of the Sacred Law (the Bible), the Square & the Compass.
> >> The secret signs, grips & password of the first degree are explained,
> >> .
> >> . as well as the meaning of [B]OAZ, the left-hand PILLAR>>
> >> .
> >> <<Again the candidate is conducted around the Temple, new signs
> >> . & passwords revealed, and a white apron with two rosettes.
> >> .
> >> This time he learns the meaning of, [J]ACHIN the right hand PILLAR.>>

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > Huh? This has to do with Freemasonry, but
> > it has nothing whateVER to do with Shakespeare, Art.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> *RITE* , n. [L. ritus; cf. Skr. r[=i]ti a STREAM, a running,
> . way, manner, ri: TO FLOW: cf. F. *RIT* , RITE.] A formal
> . act of religion or other solemn duty; a solemn observance;
> . a ceremony; as, the RITEs of FREEMASONRY.

This still has nothing whateVER to do with Shakespeare, Art.

> . *MNEME RITER*

...which is meaningless, cretinous nonsense. What on earth is a
"mneme riter," Art? First, "riter" is not an English word; in
particular, there is no such word derived from "rite." If you have in
mind "writer" (which would vitiate the force of your "argument"
anyway, since the etymological connection with "rite" and hence the
supposed connection with Freemasonry would then be lost), then even
with the orthographic vagaries of Early Modern English orthography,
the initial "w" is present in all the forms of the word attested in
the OED. Second, the earliest OED entry for "mneme" dates from 1913.
This is strictly nutcase stuff, Art.

> ...............................................
> . TOT ___ HEONL ____ IEBE
> . GET ___ TEROF ____ THES
> . EIN ______ SVING _- [S] ONN
> - ETS_ [M] [R] WHA ___ [L] LHA
> __ PPI_ [N] [E] SS___- E[A] NDT
> _ HAT_ [E] [T] ER____ N[I] TIE
> . PRO_ [M]- [I] ___ [S]_ ED[B] YOV
> _. REV_ [E] [R] L___ [I]__V[I] NGP
> . OET_ _ WISH___[E]_ [T] HTH
> . EWE __ LLWI[S.]__[H.] _ ING
> . ADV __ ENTV[R.]__[E.] _ RIN
> . SET ____ TING[F.]__[O.] _ RTH

As I've already observed many times, meaningless words occur
randomly as character strings in equidistant letter sequences in any
English text of reasonable length, Art. That you are compelled to
resort to such non-words as "mneme" (which does not appear in English
until the early twentieth century) and "riter" (which is *still* not
an English word, and which does not appear in the grid in any case:
the meaningless character string "retir" is the non-word that actually
occurs) is indicative either of your abysmal ignorance and
incompetence in linguistic and cryptanalytic matters or of your
Weirdian desperation to hallucinate or invent by means of wishful
thinking "evidence" congenial to your moronic _idée fixe_, or VERy
possibly of both.

> "Endves tibials" = Dons the Order of the Garter
> _____________ [H]enry [E]arl of [O]xford

Huh? Oxford was *blackballed* from the Order of the Garter as long
as the Queen lived; he would have been from her viewpoint an apter
supplicant for the Order of the Farter. MoreoVER, the "sentence"
above makes no sense, as the VERb "endues" has no subject. This is
strictly nutcase stuff, Art.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]


> . King Henry VI, Part ii Act 2, Scene 3
>
> PETER: *HERE* , Robin, an if I die,
> ________ I GIVE [*GEBE*] thee *MY APRON* :

Huh? Many persons other than Freemasons use the word "apron" as
well as the thing itself, Art; no doubt you have divined that Betty
Crocker is a Freemason as well.

> . \G\O O/D/ FRENDFO [R] IESVSSA_ [K] EFORBEAR
> - \E\T/O/ DIGGTHED_- [V] STENCLO [Ä] SEDHEARE
> - \B L/ ESEBEYEMA_- [N] YTSPARE_ [S] THESSTON
> - \E/ SANDCVRSTB- [E] HEYTMOV_ [E] SMYBONES

Huh?

> Pyramus: What dreadful *DOLE IS HERE* !

Huh? Are you suggesting the Bob Dole is one of us, Art?

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> (http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/masons/mrituals.html)
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >> . . . King Lear Act 4, Scene 4
> >> .
> >> CORDELIA: All blest secrets,
> >> . All you *unpublish'd virtues* of the earth,
> >> . *Spring* with my tears! be aidant and remediate
> >> . In the good man's distress! *Seek* , seek for him;
> >> . . Lest his ungovern'd rage *dissolve the life*
> >> . . That wants the means to lead it.

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > Huh? This has to do with Shakespeare, but
> > it has nothing whateVER to do with Freemasonry, Art.

> Rosicrucians are Scottish Rite *Seekers*

No, Art; the Rosicrucian Order dates to the early 1600s. The first
recorded conferral of the "Scots Master" Masonic degree occurred oVER
a century later. MoreoVER, the "Scots Master" degree is *still* not
the Scottish Rite, which did not come into being until the celebrated
1801 conclave in Charleston, South Carolina. This is strictly nutcase
stuff.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]


> >>>> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Incidentally, Art, have you figured out yet where our
> >>>>> annual Shakespeare Authorship Coverup Conspirators'
> >>>>> Conclave will meet later this summer?

> >>> art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Mexico City would be my guess.

> >> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Huh? Why Mexico City?

> > art <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >>
> >> It was postponed due to H1N1 & it's near to indian ruins.

> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:


> >
> > You're making wild surmises again, Art. Hint:
> > Try a little farther south, and during August.

> Was Mark Sanford preparing things for you?
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Sanford's South American Adventure
> By Dan Balz, Washington Post Staff Writer
> Wednesday, June 24, 2009; 4:08 PM
>
> <<For Mark Sanford, the summer adventure to Argentina -- no, he was
> not on the Appalachian Trail as his aides incorrectly told reporters
> -- is now a major personal
>
> embarrassment, a story of infidelity and confession that has become
> all too familiar from political leaders. "I wanted to do something
> exotic," he told the State newspaper
>
> Wednesday morning upon his return from Argentina.>>

No, Art; this year's Shakespeare Authorship Coverup Conspirators'
Conclave will be held VERy far from Argentina. I said *a little*
farther south. Try again.

> ----------------------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer

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