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. _To the Reader_ - Ben JONSON (1623)
.
. O, could he but have drawne his WIT
. As well in *BRASSE* , as he hath HIT
. His face ; the print would then surpasse
. All, that was EVER WRIT IN *BRASSE*
----------------------------------------------------------
<<And said most sage Cide Hamete to his PEN, "Rest *HERE* ,
hung up by this *BRASS* wire, upon this shelf, O my PEN,
whether of skilful make or clumsy cut I know not; *HERE*
shalt thou remain long ages hence, unless presumptuous
or malignant story-tellers take thee down to profane thee.>>
---------------------------------------------------------------
<<*BRASS* was a metal symbolizing the nether world...that of the
womb where life should be given ... The word for SERPENT was in
Hebrew *NAHASH/NAKASH* but this is the same term for *BRASS* >>
----------------------------------------------------------
. Thomas *NAHASH/NAKASH*
-----------------------------------------------------
In 1598 Meres not only placed:

1) *HATHWAY next to (husband) WILSON* ... but....

2) *THOMAS NASH next to (house! & grave!) SHAKESPEARE*
.....................................................
*THOMAS NASH* owned in 1642 the house next New Place in Chapel St.
*His stone, to the right of Shakespeare's in the chancel*
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. ... the best for Comedy amongst vs bee,
.
_ Edward Earle of Oxforde,
.
_ Doctor Gager of Oxforde,
_ Maister Rowley once a rare Scholler of learned Pembrooke Hall,
_ Maister Edwardes one of her Maiesties Chappell,
_ eloquent and wittie Iohn Lilly,
_ Lodge,
_ Gascoyne,
_ Greene,
.
_ *Shakespeare* ,
_ *THOMAS NASH* ,
.
_ Thomas Heywood,
_ Anthony Mundye OUR BEST PLOTTER,
_ Chapman,
_ Porter,
.
_ *WILSON, HATHWAY* , and Henry Chettle.
--------------------------------------------------------
. 'I HATE' from *HATE away* SHE threw,
. And sav'd my life, saying 'not you'

*If others have their WILL Ann HATH a way - Joyce's ULYSSES*
.
. "That I do *WASTE* with others' love,
. *that HATH myself in HATE* - E.O.
.
http://www3.telus.net/oxford/oxfordspoems.html#toppoems
-------------------------------------------------------
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shakespeare/books/chambers/a...
.
William Shakespeare - A Study of The Facts & Problems
E K Chambers [Appendix A, Section]
.
RECORDS 1. CHRISTENINGS, MARRIAGES, AND BURIALS
.
1626, Apr. 22. M. Mr *THOMAS NASH* to Mrs Elizabeth Hall.
.
1647, Apr. 5. B. *THOMAS NASH* , Gent.
.
[His stone, to the right of Shakespeare's in the chancel, has under the
arms of *NASH* (<Az. > on a chevron between three ravens' heads erased
<arg. > a pellet between four crosses crosslet <sa. >), quartered
with Bulstrode, and impaling Hall quartered with Shakespeare:
.
. HEERE RESTETH YE BODY OF THOMAS
. NASHE, ESQ. HE MAR. ELIZABETH, THE
. DAVG: & HEIRE OF IOHN HALLE, GENT.
. HE DIED APRILL 4. A. 1647, AGED 53.
.
. Fata manent omnes, hunc non virtute carentum
. vt ncque diuitiis, abstulit atra dies;
. Abstulit, at referet lux ultima; siste viator,
. si peritura paras per male parta peris.]
.................................................
Mrs. Shakespeare's Second Marriage (1926).
.
Thomas i seems to have come to Stratford by 1575-6. He made payments in
that and subsequent years to the Corporation in respect of tithes, as
agent or farmer for his cousin Sir John Huband, as his son Anthony (cf.
no. xvii) did for Shakespeare afterwards. Iterrogatories for Huband's
executors in a dispute with the Corporation in or about 1591 include one
as to their knowledge of *THOMAS NASH* , sometime servant to Huband.2
The Harl. MS. 1167 copy of the Visitation contains a certificate showing
that he came from Woodstock,3 and here I find Jerome and Richard Nash,
presumably his brothers, concerned with Sir Henry Lee in 1609.4 Anthony
and John, who farmed at Welcombe, was concerned in the Welcombe
enclosure controversy (no. xix). Thomas ii, of the present entry,
was his son, and was admitted at Lincoln's Inn on 15 May 1616.
.
*THOMAS NASH* owned in 1642 the house next New Place in Chapel St.,
but it is not clear that he ever lived in it.]
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_ *THOMAS NASHE's Honorificabilitudinitatibus*
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<<Honorificabilitudo appears in a Latin charter of 1187,
and occurs as honorificabilitudinitas in 1300.
.
Dante cites honorificabilitudinitate as a typical
example of a long word in De Vulg. Eloq. II. vii.
.
It also occurs in the Complaynt of Scotland,
and in Marston's Dutch Courtezan (1605).
.
The earliest use listed in the Oxford English Dictionary
is 1599, by *THOMAS NASHE* : "Physitions *DEAFEN OUR EARES*
with the Honorificabilitudinitatibus of their heauenly
Panachaea, their soueraign Guiacum."
----------------­------------------------------­----
__ [ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE* ]
---------------------------------------------------
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/text.html
____ *EDOUARUS VEIERUS*
_____ per anagramma
____ *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
__ [ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE* ]
--------------------------------------------------------
lyra wrote: [honorificabilitudinitatibus]

> was a favourite word of Sir Francis Bacon who
> stacked it in pyramid form to use as a puzzling
> word-cipher-code-cryptogram. Some people strongly
> favour Sir Francis Bacon as the real Shakespeare
> and one of their many proofs is this 13 syllable word.

> http://blog.iloveshakespeare.com/
.............­............................................
. (quote)
.
HONORIFICABILITUDINITATIBUS
.
In the 1623 Folio, page 136, in the first scene of Act V of Love's
Labor's Lost the long 27 lettered word honorificabilitudinitatibus
appears on line 27 and is the 151st word in ordinary type. Adding
136+151 the sum is 287. In the Simple Cipher this word totals 287.
.
This was deliberately designed to add up numerologically to 287,
the Seal of the Rosicrosse.
.
H 0 N O R I F I C A B I L I T U D I N I T A T I B U S Total=
8 14 13 14 17 9 6 9 3 1 2 9 11 9 19 20 4 9 13 9 19 1 19 9 2 20 18
.
= 287 >>
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[287 = 41 x 7]
..................................................................
PSALM 41:7 All that hate me whisper together against me: against me
do they devise my hurt. An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto
him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more. Yea, mine own
familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath
lifted up his heel against me. But thou, O LORD, be merciful unto me,
and raise me up, that I may requite them.
..................................................................
Psalm 41:7-10 *YESHUA/CHAVRAH* ELS skip +2
_____________ *Jesus/assembly*
.
<<in the phrase "they plot evil" (a prophecy about Judas) beginning
with the letter yod counting forward every 2nd. letter. In verse eight
there is a phrase, they plot evil, yach'shvu rah'ah. Notice every
other letter starting with the first yod spells Yeshua. The remaining
letters spell, chavrah = an association, group family, or an assembly.
The man that betrayed Yeshua was of His group association.>>

Class 3 ELS (Character frequency for Psalms) => 1/26,790
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<<This word is also found in the collected papers of
Francis Bacon in the British Museum, in the form of a diagram:

.
ho
hono
honori
honorifi
honorifica
honorificabi
honorificabili
honorificabilitu
honorificabilitudi
honorificabilitudini
honorificabilitudinita
honorificabilitudinitati
honorificabilitudinitatibus >>
.
-------------------------------------------­-
_______ *nohonor*
-------------------------------------------­-
.
--------------------------*
-------------------------oho
-----------------------onohono
---------------------ironohonori
-------------------ifironohonorifi
-----------------acifironohonorifica
---------------ibacifironohonorificabi
-------------ilibacifironohonorificabili
-----------utilibacifironohonorificabilitu
---------idutilibacifironohonorificabilitudi
-------inidutilibacifironohonorificabilitudini
-----atinidutilibacifironohonorificabilitudinita
---itatinidutilibacifironohonorificabilitudinitati
subitatinidutilibacifironohonorificabilitudinitatibus
.
_____________ *353* letter pyramid
........................................................
7th palindromic prime: 101, 131, 151, 181, 191, 313, *353*
.
18th Irregular prime: 37, 59, 67, 101, 103, 131, 149,
157, 233, 257, 263, 271, 283, 293, 307, 311, 347, *353*
.
34th Pythagorean prime: 5, 13, 17, 29, 37, 41, 53, 61, 73,
89, 97, 101, 109, 113, 137, 149, 157, 173, 181, 193, 197, 229,
233, 241, 257, 269, 277, 281, 293, 313, 317, 337, 349, *353*
.... [Pythagorean triangle: *225:272:353* ]
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_____________ 353 letter pyramid
.
_____ 3 *BACONs* on page 53 of the Folio:
----------------------------------------------------------
. the word *BACON* is given explicitly on page 53 of:
----------------------------------------------------------
. The Comedies: The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 4, Scene 1
.
Mistress Quickly 'Hang-hog' is Latin for BACON, I warrant you.
-----------------------------------------------------------
. The Histories: 1 King Henry IV, Act 2, Scene 1
.
Second Carrier I have a gammon of BACON and two razors of ginger,
. to be DEliVEREd as far as Charing-cross.
. ----------------------------------------------
. and implicitly on page 53 of:
. ----------------------------------------------
. The Tragedies: [which starts _Romeo & Juliet_]
.
Enter Sampson and Gregory, with {Sw}ords and (B)[uck]lers,
. of the {H}ouse of (Ca)[p]ulet.
. Samps(on).
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. £19 bail for William SAMPSON
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<<Gilbert Shakspere was a haberdasher at St. Bride's in 1597 when
he & a local shoemaker put up £19 bail, in the court of Queen's Bench,
for the clockmaker William SAMPSON>> -Honan's _Shakespeare a Life_
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<<Also, in The Northumberland Manuscript, is a set of scribbled notes,
believed to have been written by a copyist employed by Francis Bacon.
Among disconnected words and phrases, Shakespeare and Bacon, appears
the the word honorificabilitudini. There is in existence only one
manuscript known to have contained originally two Shakespearean Plays
and that manuscript belonged to Francis Bacon.

For what purpose other than a cryptogram would anyone trouble himself
to construct such a diagram? The ocurrrence of this long word in the
Northumberland Manuscript and in Love's Labours Lost where it is
followed by the cryptic line "What is A b spelt backwards with the
horne on his head?"--suggests a deliberate word play cipher.
(Bacorn, a phonetic play on Bacon)>>

http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/karl.html
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. LOVE'S LABOURS LOST Act 5, Scene 1
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MOTH . . . What is a,
. b, spelt backward, with the horn on his head?
.
HOLOFERNES
. Ba, pueritia, with a horn added.
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. a horn on his "taille"?
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On the Frontispiece in volume 1 of Nicholas Rowe's 1709 edition of _The
Works of Mr. William Shakespeare_ there is "a horn[/oBoe] on his head."
.
The oBoe's "double READ" points to the number 53 on the Stratford
. Monument. (See p. 193 of Matus' _Shakespeare In Fact_.)
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. _The Mystery of Francis Bacon_ By William T. Smedley
. http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/bacon/bacon6.html
.
<<In 1577 Christopher Plantin published an edition of Andrea Alciat's
. "Emblemata." On page 104 is Emblem No. 45, "In dies meliora."
This has been re-designed for the 1577 edition. It contains at the
back the pillars of Hercules, with a scroll around being the motto:
. "Plus oltre." These pillars stand on some arches,
. immediately in front of which is a mound or pyramid,
. two sides of which are seen.
.
. On one is to be found the light A
. and on the other the dark A.
.
. This design was appropriated by Whitney, and appears
. in the 1586 edition of his Emblems on page 53.>>
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"Elizabeth Weir" <elizabeth_w...@mail.com> wrote
> ________________________________________________
> Found this:
.
> On Sunday, 7 December (1595), Sir Edward Hoby wrote
> to Sir Robert Cecil inviting him to supper and a presentation
> of King Richard (II) at his house in Westminster the
> following Tuesday. 1
.
> Richart II is thought to have been written in 1595.
.
> The very brilliant Sir Edward Hoby is Bacon's first cousin,
> also his closest friend in childhood. Hoby was the son of
> Sir Thomas Hoby & Lady Elizabeth Hoby, Bacon's aunt.
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. Hoboy, n. A hautboy or oboe.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Oboe, n. [It., fr. F. hautbois, lit., high wood.]
One of the higher wind instruments of great antiquity,
having a penetrating pastoral quality of tone.
-----------------------------------------------------------
. [OB]oe di
. [CA]ccia [It. oboe of the chase]
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Art Neuendorffer

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MM:
Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe. He didn't write
the canon. William Shakespeare wrote it.

Your mention of a horn and a tail, reminded me of this quote by Kabir
Sahib:

http://www.geocities.com/anulbird/jewel17.htm

Kabir Sahib says, "God was making
the animal, but by mistake He created man, and instead of putting the
tail and horns, on that body he fixed the beard and moustache. But
man has the intellect and wisdom of the animal only."

MM:
I've mentioned that Kabir Sahib was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
Shakespeare was the reincarnation of Kabir Sahib. Signs and wonders
abound, Art...

Michael Martin
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michaelmartinwesternsatguru

Art Neuendorffer

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MM:
.

Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
He didn't write the canon.
.
Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
.
Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.
.
But Francis Bacon edited it:
---------------------------­----------------------------
_Remembrance of some English Poets_(1605) RICHARD BARNFIELD
http://www.geocities.com/litpa­geplus/shakemoul_rape.html
.
<<And Shakespeare, thou, whose *HONY* flowing vaine,
(Pleasing the World) thy Praises CLOTH containe;
Whose Venus, and whose Lucrece ( *SWEET* , and chast)
.
*Thy NAME in FAME's IMMORTALL BOOKE have PLAC'T*
*Live EVER you, at least in Fame live EVER* :
Well may the Body die, but Fame die nEVER. >>
-----------------------------------------------------
http://ist-SOCRATES.berkeley.edu/~ahnelson/PERSONAL/011007.html
.
[=34] Cecil Papers 88/101 (bifolium, 232mm x 170mm),
Oxford to Cecil; 7 October 1601 (W337;F593).
.
I am aduised, that I may passe *MY BOOKE* from her Magestie,
yf a warrant may be procured to my cosen *BACON* and Seriant
[=Sergeant] Harris to PERFET [=PERFECT] yt. Whiche beinge
DOONE, I know to whome formallye to thanke, but reallye
they shalbe, and are from me, and myne, to be sealed vp
.
*in an aeternall remembrance to yowre selfe*
.
Yowre most assured and louinge Broother.
(signed) Edward Oxenford (ital.; 4+7)
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__ *The DIAL TIS NoW For BACon TO Obey*
--------------------------­------------------------
. Mira. More to know
[D]id *NEUER* medle with my thoughts.
Pros. *TIS TIME*
[I] should informe thee farther: Lend thy hand
[A]nd *PLUCKE my Magick Garment* from me: So,
[L]ye there my Art: wipe thou thine eyes, haue comfort,
.
[The] direfull spectacle of the *WRACKE* which touch'd
.
[T]he VERY VERtue of compassion in thee:
[I] haue with such prouision in mine Art
[S]o SAFEly ordered, that there is no soule
[No] not so much perdition as an hayre
. betid to any creature in the vessell
[W]hich thou heardst cry, which thou saw'st sinke: Sit
[For] thou must *NoW* know farther. [downe,
. Mira. You haue often
[B]egun to tell me what I am, but stopt
[A]nd left me to a bootelesse Inquisition,
[Con]cluding, stay: not yet.
. Pros. The howr's now come
[T]he *VERy MINUTE* byds thee *OPE THINE EARE* ,
[Obey], and be attentiue. Canst thou remember
___ A time before we came vnto this Cell?
--------------------------------------------------
Pros. Being once PERFECTed how to graunt suites,
how to deny them: who t'aduance, and who
To trash for ouer-topping; new created
The creatures that were mine, I say, or chang'd 'em,
Or els new form'd 'em; hauing both the key,
Of Officer, and office, set all hearts i'th state
.
*To what tune pleas'd his EARe* , that *NoW*
he was *The Iuy which had hid my princely Trunck* ,
And suckt *my VERDurE* out on't: Thou attend'st not?

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_ *THOMAS NASHE's Honorificabilitudinitatibus*
---------------------------------------------------
<<The earliest use listed in the Oxford English Dictionary
is 1599, by *THOMAS NASHE* : "Physitions *DEAFEN OUR EARES*
with the Honorificabilitudinitatibus of their
heauenly Panachaea, their soueraign Guiacum."
------------------------------------------------

__ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE*
------------------------------------------------
Last book dedicated to the 17th Earl of Oxford:
.
. F.D.'s [(F)rancis (D)avison?/(F)rancis (D)rake?]
Anagrammata in Nomina Illustrissimorum Heroum (1603)
.
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/
.
The one addressed to Oxford congratulates him
on his non-involvement in the Essex Rebellion.
One wonders why Davison thought this necessary.
.
. *EDOUARUS VEIERUS*
. per anagramma
. *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
. (' *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE* ')
-------------------------------­----------------
David L. Webb wrote:
.
<<Exactly, Art -- that is NOT an anagram, as the first line contains a
single occurrence of "d" while the second line has two; similarly, the
first line has three occurrences of "e" while the second line has only
two. I am quite encouraged that you are perhaps beginning to catch
on, Art -- this is *exactly* the sort of cheating that your "anagrams"
routinely display. I have neVER suggested that you were the ONLY
incompetent in the world, Art; howeVER, by virtue of both the
quality and the quantity of your "work," you have few peers.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------
. *Of course...they messed up intentionally* !!!!
.
________ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE*
.
So it must be rather something like *EDOUARDUS VERIUS*
(or at least those letters) ...which means one should
look for more sensible latin anagrams of those letters:
.
________ *EDOUARDUS VERIUS*
________ *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
.
__ *VIDEO* : comprehend, observe, understand.
-----------------------------------------------
__ *VIDEO ARDUUS REUS*
__ *VIDEO ARDUUS ERUS*
.
__ *ARDUUS* : difficult, proudly elevated
.
__ *REUS* : accused
__ *ERUS* : lord
-------------------------------------
__ *VIDEO DURARE SUUS*
__ *VIDEO DURARE USUS*
.
__ *DURARE* : endure, last
.
__ *SUUS* : his
__ *USUS* : skill
-------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer

lyra

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Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> MM:
> .
> Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
> He didn't write the canon.
> .
> Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
> .
> Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.
> .
> But Francis Bacon edited it

..................................................................................


Marlowe wrote the Shakespeare works...
and Edward de Vere edited...

a clue is
*Ed* (Edward, and of course Editor)

..................................................................................

well, it's as good as most clues...

...................................................................................

lackpurity

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Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> MM:
> .
> Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
> He didn't write the canon.
> .
> Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
> .
> Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.

MM:
AKA Marlowe? You must be kidding? Any port in a storm? Edward de
Vere's works do not reach to the lofty spiritual heights of
Shakespeare's. There is no connection to Marlowe's works, either, as
Marlowe's works are head and shoulders above de Vere's.

> But Francis Bacon edited it:
> ---------------------------­----------------------------

MM:
Any proof? Why would there be any need of editing? Your assumption
just raises more questions. This is typical of Anti-Strats. Rather
than go straight to the truth, they prefer to go around in circles, in
many cases, anyway.

Michael Martin

lackpurity

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lyra wrote:
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> > MM:
> > .
> > Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
> > He didn't write the canon.
> > .
> > Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
> > .
> > Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.
> > .
> > But Francis Bacon edited it
>
> ..................................................................................
>
>
> Marlowe wrote the Shakespeare works...
> and Edward de Vere edited...

MM:
Marlowe died in 1593, Whether de Vere edited anything, or not, is
immaterial. First we would wonder why anything would need to be
edited? If it was edited, so what? We're discussing authors, not
editors. I doubt if Shakespeare or Marlowe would have wanted anyone
tampering with their works. They knew their message. They gave it to
the world. The only possible need for editing would be to correct
grammatical errors, but not the main message.

Michael Martin

Art Neuendorffer

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>>MM:
>>>.
>>>Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
>>>He didn't write the canon.

>>Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
>>>.
>>>Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.
>>>.
>>>But Francis Bacon edited it
>>

> lyra wrote:
>
>> Marlowe wrote the Shakespeare works...
>> and Edward de Vere edited...
>
>
> MM:
> Marlowe died in 1593,

-----------------------------------------------------------------
. May 30, 1593 (NS)
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEatlas/SEatlas2/SEatlas1581.GIF
.
. Marlowe died on the eve of Ramadan 1001 A.H.
__ Oxford's farting story is from _A 1001 Arabian Nights_
"How Abu Hasan Brake Wind" :
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"O my mother, tell me the day when I was born; for such an one of my
companions is about to take an omen for me." And the mother answered,
.
. "Thou wast born, O my daughter,
. on the VERy night when Abu Hasan farted."
.
. Now Abu Hasan no sooner heard these words than he rose up
. from the bench, and fled away saying to himself,
.
. "VERily thy FART hath become a date,
. which shall last *for EVER and EVER*
. even as the poet said:
.
. "As long as *PALMS* shall shift the flower;
. As long as *PALMS* shall sift the flour."
.
[In Greek, *PHOINIX* means both phoenix & *PALM*-tree.]
.
And Abu Hasan returned to India
. and there abode in self-exile till he died.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
______________ 2 Henry IV
PRINCE HENRY:
SATURN and VENUS this year in conjunction!
what says the almanac to that?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
MISTRESS QUICKLY:
Well, fare thee well: I have known thee these
TWENTY-NINE YEARS, come PEAScod-time; but an
honester and truer-hearted man,--well, fare thee well.
------------------------------­-------------------------
At about 1 PM on May 30, 1593 (Gregorian)
London experienced a partial eclipse of the sun
while VENUS was in conjunction with SATURN.
.
The path of the total eclipse started in South America, passed
over the Sahara and ended in Arabia. Barely a year later
(May 20, 1594 {Gregorian}) another total eclipse rose
( *PHOENIX* like) out of Arabia (between Mecca to Medina)
and passed over the former empires
of Tamerlane and Nebuchadnezzar.
...........................................................
. Two Arabian eclipses occurred on eve of RAMadan,
. 1001 A.H. & 1002 A.H., respectively:
.
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEatlas/SEatlas2/SEatlas1581.GIF
.
. Both of these Arabian eclipses
. occurred on eve of RAMadan,
. 1001 A.H. & 1002 A.H., respectively.
-------------------­------------------------------­---
Art Neuendorffer

Art Neuendorffer

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>>MM:
>>.
>>Art, Francis Bacon succeeded Shakespeare and Marlowe.
>>He didn't write the canon.
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
>>Yes, Francis Bacon didn't write the canon.
>>.
>>Edward de Vere [a.k.a, MAR-L.O.] wrote it.
.
MM:
> AKA Marlowe? You must be kidding?
.
. Me Kyd?
.

> Any port in a storm? Edward de Vere's works do not
> reach to the lofty spiritual heights of Shakespeare's.
> There is no connection to Marlowe's works, either, as
> Marlowe's works are head and shoulders above de Vere's.
.
Edward de Vere improved with age.
.

> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
>>But Francis Bacon edited it:
>
MM:

> Why would there be any need of editing?
.
. To standardize the spelling, for one.
KJV & Shakespeare were part & parcel of Bacon's Great Instauration.
.
MM:

> Your assumption just raises more questions.
> This is typical of Anti-Strats.
.
Good scientific theories just raises more questions.
. This is typical of good science.

MM:


> Rather than go straight to the truth,
> they prefer to go around in circles,

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________ *SHACESPEARE : CIRCLE SET*
________ *ECCLESIASTES : PREACHER*
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Art Neuendorffer

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