Much ado about Nothing meaning
Ben - Dizzys
Would you say the phrase, " Much ado about Nothing" is about something?
In other words can the phrase be used correctly to describe something
that is both nothing and a good thing. For example a test result that
comes back with a negative result. For this could we say, "With the
negative results in hand we have cause for great celebration or much
ado about nothing"?
John W. Kennedy
Going by the dictionary, just barely.
But the practical meaning of the phrase is "A great deal of hoop-la over
a non-event", so unless it is /very/ clear that you're making a joke,
you'll just sound stupid.
Headlining an article about new advances in vacuum-pump technology "Much
ado about nothing" would be moderately witty (except, of course, that
it's been done already). I don't think your suggested case comes off,
partly because a negative result usually isn't really "nothing".
--
John W. Kennedy
"But now is a new thing which is very old--
that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."
-- Charles Williams. "Judgement at Chelmsford"
Ben - Dizzys
Good advice, thanks.
lackpurity
MM:
That's pretty close to the truth, I'd say. Unless we follow a Master,
and practice spiritual meditation, then our lives are much ado about
nothing. Nothing goes with us, at the time of death, but our spiritual
treasure. Christ and Shakespeare both hinted to take that treasure
with us.
You mentioned a "negative result," and that is true, if we indulge in
the five perversions of mind, namely, lust, anger, greed, attachment,
and pride. Overindulgence in them is definitely much ado about
nothing. This world is not real. It is like a dream, or a mirage,
perhaps. If we are chasing after people, places, and things, which are
not real, then we can see that it is much ado about nothing.
Michael Martin
seaker
Shakespeare. According to the Internet Shakespeare Edition and people
who know more about Shakespeare than you, "The title, Much Ado About
Nothing" puns on the pornunciation of the word "nothing" which sounded
like "noting" in Elizabethan English."
The word NOTE means observe, pay attention to, take special note of,
(spy on). EXAMPLES OF ALL THESE MEANINGS ARE FOUND IN THE PLAY'S
ACTION.
Pull your head out of your ass Michael Martin and read the play! In
fact, why don't you go away, read all the plays and then come back and
post here!
lackpurity
MM:
Corroboration is here offered:
MM:
>From Shakespeare's Macbeth, Act V, Scene V:
http://eamesharlan.org/tptt/macbeth55.html#18793
Re-enter SEYTON
Wherefore was that cry?
SEYTON
The queen, my lord, is dead.
MACBETH
She should have died hereafter;
20 There would have been a time for such a word.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
25 The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
30 Signifying nothing.
MM:
If we are attached to the past, or we don't attend to our meditation,
daily, with regularity and punctuality, the we will go to dusty death
without any spiritual treasure. The wise man will lay up treasure in
heaven, for that will go with us after death.
Shakespeare compares our relatively short human lifespan to a lighted
candle, which burns for a while, then goes out. Then, he says our life
is an illusion, like a shadow of the reality. Very frank, here,
Shakespeare implies that if we don't break our attachments to this
world, then we will be like idiots. Our life is nothing, really,
signifying nothing, as Shakespeare put it. There is no reality in it,
at all.
Michael Martin
Chess One
"lackpurity" <lackp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139424306.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Yes, Michael Martin identifies 'the quick and dead'.
It is not quite as Christian tadition would have it, that life on earth is
illusory, or a purgatory - rather, that Hades and heaven are the same place,
much depending on one's inner perspective, not the outer circumstance.
Phil Innes
> Michael Martin
>
lackpurity
MM:
Hades is a part of the astral plane, the first stage above the physical
plane. Heaven could, also, apply to other parts of the Astral Plane,
or any of the seven heavens between the Supreme Being and us.
Sometimes, such as in wars, this world is similar to Hell, but Hell and
Heaven are really different places. Hell is like a penal institution.
Heaven rewards us for being good human beings. Dante Alighieri did a
good job of describing Hell in Divine Comedy.
Michael Martin
seaker
Scottish Play. The following neatly sums up you and your postings
here.
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
lackpurity
If anyone would like to discuss things without the undesirables, you're
welcome to join my Yahoo Groups, where I am the MODERATOR.
Michael Martin
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michaelmartinwesternsatguru
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lightfromsoundoasis
Tomorrow is the sixth anniversary of the first group.
seaker
Shakespeare and Olver Cromwell as Western Masters. You are probably
unware of English history. Cromwell's government closed theatres in
England. Theatre was banned from 1642 to 1660. All playhouses,
including the Globe were torn down. Shakespeare was long dead. I
doubt he would be pleased that you list him along with Cromwell.
lackpurity
seaker wrote:
> Michael Martin, I find it ironic that on your group you list
> Shakespeare and Olver Cromwell as Western Masters. You are probably
> unware of English history.
MM:
What would it have to do with anything?
> Cromwell's government closed theatres in
> England. Theatre was banned from 1642 to 1660. All playhouses,
> including the Globe were torn down. Shakespeare was long dead. I
> doubt he would be pleased that you list him along with Cromwell.
MM:
The Globe was torn down in 1644, I just read on a timeline of the Globe
Theater. Cromwell became Lord Protector in 1653. Things never remain
the same, in this world. Shaekespeare came and taught the truth, as
did Cromwell. Masters always know best, what to do. They're carrying
out the orders of the Supreme Being.
Who knows what the Lord might have been thinking? He generally doesn't
want us worshipping temples, theaters, idols, etc.. He wants us to
follow the Master of the time. So, there could have been a very good
purpose in the destruction of the Globe Theater. In India, my own
Master used to say, that if a Master dies, we are more inclined to
worship the shoes, or the bed of the deceased Master, rather than to
follow the Master of the time.
There was no difference between Shakespeare, Cromwell, and Milton, IMO.
They were all ONE with God.
Michael Martin
David L. Webb
"lackpurity" <lackp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The notion that the man who oversaw and then attempted to justify the
Drogheda massacre as "The righteous judgement of God on these barbarous
wretches..." was a "Master" who was "ONE with God" is certainly...uh...
eccentric. It seems far more likely that lackmaturity's thoroughgoing
ignorance of history is exceeded only by his ignorance of the works of
Shakespeare. Moreover, since lackmaturity disdains reading in favor of
more subjective means of learning, is seems unfortunately quite probable
that his profound ignorance is irremediable.
> Michael Martin
John W. Kennedy
Why should that make any difference? He loathes Christianity and he
can't stand Shakespeare's plays, but he's willing to put Jesus and
Shakespeare /almost/ on a plane with his exalted self.
He probably heard the wart story as a child and never got over it.
lackpurity
MM:
You can form your own opinion. God works in mysterious ways.
> It seems far more likely that lackmaturity's thoroughgoing
> ignorance of history is exceeded only by his ignorance of the works of
> Shakespeare.
MM:
History doesn't make Cromwell less than a Master. We might, but not
history. He was followed by a Great Successor, John Milton, who wrote
"Paradise Lost," and "Paradise Regained." I posted, here, a letter
from Cromwell to his cousin, in which Cromwell wrote that God had not
hid his face from him. Anyone who can look at God's face, is a Master.
That is at the highest region. He was a Son of God, same as Jesus,
same as Shakespeare, etc...
> Moreover, since lackmaturity disdains reading in favor of
> more subjective means of learning, is seems unfortunately quite probable
> that his profound ignorance is irremediable.
MM:
Readers can decide, who is more ignorant, you, or me. No problem.
Michael Martin
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> > Michael Martin