I just came home from Second Hand Books. i was selling CDs and books
and had time to wait while they appraised my stuff.
So I went to the Shakespeare section and tried my experiment. In about
15 minutes I found it works not only on Oxfordian books, but also on
Nevillian books!
I pulled down Mark Anderson's book, very handsome and authoritative
with excellent art and a healthy price tag of 16.98 USD in a second
hand shop.
And I opened to pages ending in 9, looking for the "conditional words"
that are the essential structural support of Oxfordianism.
Page "Fluff Words" needed to portray Oxford as Shakespeare
9 "would have become"
19 "sensations that would have struck [Oxford]"
29 "would have found"
39 "as far as can be determined
"may well have"
49 "may very well have"
59 "may often have been"
69 "would have been"
"probably"
79 "would" used five times in two paragraphs
"would certainly have been noted"
89 "would have caught glimpses"
99 "would have passed"
So, Mark Anderson's writing convinced me he would have less pages if
he built on fact and not all these outside conditions that he speaks
for with such authority.
Then I opened "Truth Will Out" by James and Rubinstein. They stake
their reputations on Henry Neville being the author of Shakespeare's
poems and plays. Same technique though more extreme (probably because
when two people work together they each hope the other one knows what
they're talking about).
i opened to pages ending in 5 and lightly scanned for the "conditional
words" that are the only visible support for the theory. To wit:
Page "Fluff Words" needed to portray Neville as Shakespeare
5 "would have received"
15 "does seem" "would have had"
25 "has also been speculated"
35 "is fair to say" "perhaps"
45 [sorry, can't make out my note]
55 [sorry, can't make out my note]
65 "certainly suggest a link"
75 "it would of course be"
85 "presumably"
95 "there is general agrement"
105 the first two sentences contain "probably"
the third sentence contains "apparently"
the fourth and fifth sentences contain "probably"
115 "it is at least plausible"
125 "it is thus tempting to assume"
135 "may well have been meant"
145 "which would probably"
155 "would clearly indicate"
165 "if this can be said"
175 "the inescapable message seems to be"
That concluded my study because my offer was ready.
So you see, it is generally agreed it would of course be presumably
possible and may well have been the inescapable assumption ENOUGH
ALREADY #&%@*!
These authors insult those of us who are actually paying attention.
Now for the Class project (and I would like Bob Grumman to help
supervise this exercise as he is resident neologist and an educator).
We are in need of the word that defines this type of detour/
distraction employed by antiStratfordians to sidestep the area where
other authors simply state the facts. I have called them conditional
words, and fluff words. But certainly there is a more apt word that
describes the words/phrases, the practice of lulling the reader into a
feeling he is learning, and the whole letdown of reading endless
factless books written to hurt Shakespeare.
Submit your ideas here. If you were once Oxfordian just because of
your lazy reading skills and now see that you were hoodwinked, your
ideas are most welcome.
Greg Reynolds
Not surprisingly, I jumped into this thread, panting, as soon as I saw
its title, Greg. No thoughts yet--except that the standard "woulda-
coulda" works pretty well. Still, one that specifies a technique of
anti-Stratfordians like my "looneation" and "Oxtraction" might be
nice. I'll sleep on it.
--Bob
There is also a particular grammar used with these types of words that
transforms a hypothetical musing into fact. That construction is
usually two speculations followed by "then," which comes out in the
end a "must," as in: "But if . . . and if . . . then . . . must . . ."
But to be fair, it is not only antiStrats who use this; politicians
use it a lot.
TR
Thank you!
We'll assemble the best words then you can judge them and we'll get
the right word. Maybe we'll get a lot of good ideas to use.
i have a correction to make. I was at Half Price Books (not second
Hand Books). I urge all to recycle your music and lit so others can
enjoy it. You earn better than a garage sale because they buy
everything.
Now the ideas I am developing for the new word are these...
This antiStrat device is their building block, like a brick but hollow
and transparent like glass blocks or blanks so I'm thinking of
"blonks"
so that we see the blank block all in one.
I am thinking that "footnotes" help "foot" or "base" or "establish" a
foundation, but that these meaningless intrusions of "acceptable
conjecture based only on prior conjecture" could be considered
"assnotes"
as that's where they were pulled and is a bawdy synonym for their
eager distributors.
Neology is not easy, but there is lots of beginners luck! So have at
it. We need the new word before the paradigm shift, scheduled for 20
years from now (the time it takes to dumb down the living).
Greg Reynolds
Well, whattya got here, y'know, you got "Don Ho: Live At Honolulu",
you got "Jerry Vale Sings Italian Love Songs" you got Sergio Mendes,
you got Will in the World by Stephen Greenblatt, you got A Year in
the Life of William Shakespeare by James Shapiro...I'll give you five
bucks.
Art Neuendorffer
OK, how about "wishumentation?" The authors in question clearly WISH
they had DOCUMENTATION to support their claims, so they use weasel
words to give the appearance of documentary support. Hmm, perhaps
"weaselumentation" is better.
You walked right into that one, Art!
Mark Twain is a fiction writer!
Greg Reynolds
<<Samuel Langhorne Clemens better known by the pen name
Mark Twain, was a [H]umorist, [L]ecturer, [A]uthor & [S]atirist.>>
Art Neuendorffer
> Mark Twain » Is Shakespeare Dead? » Chapter 8
> .
> <<This testimony is so strong, so direct, so authoritative; and so
> uncheapened, unwatered by guesses, and surmises, and maybe-so's,
> and might-have-beens, and could-have-beens, and must-have-beens,
> and the rest of that ton of plaster of paris out of which the
> biographers have built the colossal brontosaur which goes by
> the Stratford actor's name, that it quite convinces me that
> the man who wrote Shakespeare's Works knew all about law
> and lawyers. Also, that that man could not have been
> the Stratford Shakespeare--and WASN'T.>>
Twain bases his case on the argument that the author couldn't have
been a country hick. What I find so remarkable about that is the fact
Twain himself was a country hick.
It's an excellent work of propoganda -- he takes a chapter or two, as
I recall, to subtly link Shakespeare to Lucifer -- but I don't think
he successfully knocks down Shakespeare's authorship or builds up
Bacon's.
Conrad.
Twain takes a chapter or two, to subtly link Shakespeare to Satan:
---------------------------------------------
Is Shakespeare Dead? from My Autobiography (1909)
by Mark Twain
<<When I was a Sunday-school scholar, something more than sixty years
ago, I became interested in Satan, and wanted to find out all I could
about him. I began to ask questions, but my class-teacher, Mr.
Barclay, the stone-mason, was reluctant about answering them, it
seemed to me. I was anxious to be praised for turning my thoughts to
serious subjects when there wasn't another boy in the village who
could be hired to do such a thing. I was greatly interested in the
incident of Eve and the serpent, and thought Eve's calmness was
perfectly noble. I asked Mr. Barclay if he had ever heard of another
woman who, being approached by a serpent, would not excuse herself and
break for the nearest timber. He did not answer my question, but
rebuked me for inquiring into matters above my age and comprehension.
I will say for Mr. Barclay that he was willing to tell me the facts of
Satan's history, but he stopped there: he wouldn't allow any
discussion of them.
In the course of time we exhausted the facts. There were only five or
six of them; you could set them all down on a visiting-card. I was
disappointed. I had been meditating a biography, and was grieved to
find that there were no materials. I said as much, with the tears
running down. Mr. Barclay's sympathy and compassion were aroused, for
he was a most kind and gentle-spirited man, and he patted me on the
head and cheered me up by saying there was a whole vast ocean of
materials! I can still feel the happy thrill which these blessed words
shot through me.
Then he began to bail out that ocean's riches for my encouragement and
joy. Like this: it was "conjectured"--though not established--that Satan
was originally an angel in Heaven; that he fell; that he rebelled, and
brought on a war; that he was defeated, and banished to perdition.
Also, "we have reason to believe" that later he did so and so; that
"we are warranted in supposing" that at a subsequent time he traveled
extensively, seeking whom he might devour; that a couple of centuries
afterward, "as tradition instructs us," he took up the cruel trade of
tempting people to their ruin, with vast and fearful results; that by
and by, "as the probabilities seem to indicate," he may have done
certain things, he might have done certain other things, he must have
done still other things.
And so on and so on. We set down the five known facts by themselves on
a piece of paper, and numbered it "page 1"; then on fifteen hundred
other pieces of paper we set down the "conjectures," and
"suppositions," and "maybes," and "perhapses," and "doubtlesses," and
"rumors," and guesses," and "probabilities," and "likelihoods," and
"we are permitted to thinks," and "we are warranted in believings,"
and "might have beens," and "could have beens," and "must have beens,"
and "unquestionablys," and "without a shadow of doubt"--and behold!
MATERIALS? Why, we had enough to build a biography of Shakespeare!
Yet he made me put away my pen; he would not let me write the history
of Satan. Why? Because, as he said, he had suspicions--suspicions that
my attitude in the matter was not reverent, and that a person must be
reverent when writing about the sacred characters. He said any one who
spoke flippantly of Satan would be frowned upon by the religious world
and also be brought to account.
I assured him, in earnest and sincere words, that he had wholly
misconceived my attitude; that I had the highest respect for Satan,
and that my reverence for him equaled, and possibly even exceeded,
that of any member of the church. I said it wounded me deeply to
perceive by his words that he thought I would make fun of Satan, and
deride him, laugh at him, scoff at him; whereas in truth I had never
thought of such a thing, but had only a warm desire to make fun of
those others and laugh at THEM. "What others? "Why, the Supposers, the
Perhapsers, the Might-Have-Beeners, the Could-Have-Beeners, the Must-
Have-Beeners, the Without-a-Shadow-of-Doubters, the We-Are-Warranted-
in-Believingers, and all that funny crop of solemn architects who have
taken a good solid foundation of five indisputable and unimportant
facts and built upon it a Conjectural Satan thirty miles high."
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<<Satan (from the Hebrew word for "adversary") is a term that
originates from the Abrahamic faiths, being traditionally applied to
an angel in Judeo-Christian belief, and to a jinn in Islamic belief.
While Hebrew ha-Satan is "the accuser" and Satan itself means "to
overcome" -- the one who challenged the religious faith of humans in
the books of Job and Zechariah -- Abrahamic religious belief systems
other than Judaism relate this term to a demon, a rebellious fallen
angel, devil, minor god and idolatry, or as an allegory for evil.>>
--------------------------------------
<<Lucifer is a Latin word meaning "light bearer" (from lux, lucis,
"light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for
the "Morning Star" the planet Venus. The word Lucifer was the
translation of the Septuagint Greek heosphoros, ("dawn-bearer"; cf.
Greek phosphoros, "light-bearer"; itself the translation of the Hebrew
Helel ben Shahar, Son of Dawn), used by Jerome in the Vulgate, having
mythologically the same meaning as Prometheus who brought fire to
humanity.
Passage 14:12 from the Book of Isaiah referred to one of the popular
honorific titles of a Babylonian king; however, later interpretations
of the text, and the influence of embellishments in works such as
Dante's Inferno and Milton's Paradise Lost, led to the common
interpretation in Christian belief that Lucifer was a poetic
appellation of Satan.
Modern and late Medieval Christian thought derived from this
interpretation the idea that Lucifer is a fallen angel who is Satan,
the embodiment of evil and an enemy of God. In Christian literature
and legend, Lucifer is generally considered to have been a prominent
archangel in heaven, although Book of Ezekiel 28:14 says: "You were
the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there." In the fully-
developed theme of "The War of Heaven", Lucifer had been motivated by
pride to lead a revolution against God. When the rebellion failed,
Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly
host, and came to reside in the world.
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Art Neuendorffer
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
[...]
> <<Samuel Langhorne Clemens better known by the pen name
> Mark Twain, was a [H]umorist, [L]ecturer, [A]uthor & [S]atirist.>>
Just as you are an [M]IT-grad, [O]zone-measurer, [R]aconteur,
[O]xfordian, and [N]euendorffer, Art.
> Art Neuendorffer
I of course meant to say: Mark Twa-in
(I had forgotte pseudo-nyms get hy-phens.)
<<According to literary historians Taylor and Mosher, "In the 16th and
17th centuries, the Golden Age of pseudonyms, almost every writer used
a pseudonym at some time in his career". In this regard, many anti-
Stratfordians question the hyphen that often appeared in the name
"Shake-speare", which they believe indicated the use of such a
pseudonym. Examples of oft-hyphenated names include Tom Tell-truth,
Martin Mar-prelate (who pamphleteered against church "prelates") and
Cuthbert Curry-nave, who "curried" his "knavish" enemies. According to
authorship researcher Mark Anderson, the hyphenated "Shake-speare" is
another example in this vein, alluding to the patron goddess of art
and literature, Athena, who sprang from the forehead of Zeus, shaking
a spear. Stratfordians have responded that the hyphenated version was
not consistent and that the hyphen was merely misplaced, so the issue
should be discounted. Oxfordian Charlton Ogburn responded by adding
that of the "32 editions of Shakespeare's plays published before the
First Folio of 1623 in which the author was named at all, the name was
hyphenated in fifteen - almost half." Further, it was hyphenated by
John Davies in the famous poem which references the poet as "Our
English Terence", by fellow playwright John Webster, and by the
epigrammatist of 1639 who wrote, "Shake-speare, we must be silent in
they praise...". Ogburn notes that the hyphen was only used by other
writers or publishers, and not by the poet himself (he did not use it
in his personal dedications of his two long narrative poems). On this
evidence, Ogburn concluded that the hyphenation was not inconsistent
or misplaced, and did follow a noticeable pattern.>>
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. the Serpent/SNAKE of Ignorance
.....................................................
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/*MINERVA*.html
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/peacham/bacon.html
http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/apollo/frameset-apollo.html
.
<<Woodblock illustration on Page 34 of Henry Peacham's book of emblems
entitled *MINERVA* Britanna, published in London in 1612 by Wa: Dight.
The page is dedicated 'To the most judicious, and learned, Sir Francis
Bacon, Knight', and bears the motto 'Ex malis moribus bona leges'
. 'Out of the *DEATH of EVIL* , a legacy of good'.>>
.
<<"The emblem shows Bacon's direct connection with the Knights of the
Helmet from which Freemasonry evolved. The Knight is wearing a high
hat which simulates the Knight's Helmet and the Mason's high hat,
to indicate his *order & invisibilty* ; & he has the staff in his
right hand in the act of destroying the Serpent of Ignorance.">>
. --from Bacon Masonry by George Tudhope
.
<<The illustration depicts a 'SHEPHERD SWAiNe'-i.e., a SHEPHERD
who is also a SWINEHERD-who is piercing a VIPER with his SPEAR.
Both the SHEPHERD and the SWINEHERD are associated with APOLLO,
the god of poetic inspiration & illumination, who is reputed
to have incarnated in those forms in order to look after his
sheep or SWINE. Both the sheep & SWINE are symbols for mankind.
In the Christian story it is Christ who became the SHEPHERD.
In the Bardic Mysteries it is Merlin who became the SWINEHERD.
The *COURTIER-POET* was represented in Elizabethan England
as a SHEPHERD-knight, the symbolism stemming from that
of APOLLO and the allegory of *ARCADIA* , the idyllic land
of the great god Pan, whose inhabitants were famed as warriors,
poets and SHEPHERDs. Hyssop is an aromatic plant used in
purification rituals. According to Greek myth, APOLLO inhabits
the twin-peaked summit of Mount PARNASSUS, the Mountain of
Poetry & Music, together with *ATHENA*, his feminine counterpart,
and the nine Muses. On the slopes of PARNASSUS lies Delphi,
the Oracle centre, by the Castalian *SPRING* . APOLLO is
known as the DaySTAR & Leader of the choir of Muses, whilst
*ATHENA* is called the Tenth Muse, Chief of the other nine.>>
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February 2 ritual at the Goddess Brighid/St. Brigit's Well
...........................................................
<<As patroness of poetry & crops, Brigit is most clearly equated
with Freya whose animal is the DEER, & whose bird is the SWAN.>>
.
<<St. Brigit/Brigantia/BRITANNIA was the personified genia
of Britain and was first depicted on a coin of Antoninus
Pius (d. AD 161). Latterly, Britannia, with the
attributes & weapons of *MINERVA* , appeared on
coins during the reign of Charles II in 1665.>>
.
February 2, 1650, Charles II's mistress NELL Gwin born
February 2, 1685, Charles II: "Let not poor Nellie starve" & died.
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. <<Inscribed on *ATHENA'S* shield is a Latin motto,
.
__ *OBSCURIS VERA INVOLVENS*
.
. meaning *TRUTH is enveloped in obscurity* , which explains
. the imagery on the shield-the central sun representing
. *TRUTH* and the surrounding clouds obscurity.>>
.
http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/*ATHENA*/frameset-*ATHENA*.html
......................................................
__ *OBSCURIS VERA INVOLVENS*
_______ {anagram}
. *BACON {SVS} NIL VERO VERIUS*
. *BACONVS {'S} NIL VERO VERIUS*
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"The Golden Ass", Adlington's (1566) translation revised
by S. Gasalee, published by William Heinemann, London, 1915
....................................................
Book 10: "then followed another resembling *MINERVA*,
. for she had on her head a shining *HELMET*,
. whereon was bound *a GARLAND of olive-branches* ,
. having in one hand a target or shield: and in the
. other *SHAKING A SPEARE* as though she would fight.
....................................................
. APVLEI METAMORPHOSEON LIBER X
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/fld/CLASSICS/apuleius10.html
.
Inrupit alia, quam putares *MINERVAM*, caput contecta
fulgenti *GALEA* - et oleaginea *CORONA* tegebatur ipsa galea
- clypeum attollens et *HASTAM QUATIENS* et qualis illa, cum pugnat.
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_________*CORONA* [Latin] *CORONET*
.
<<Edward de Vere generally signed his letters, 'Edward Oxenford' ,
with the additional flourish of a pictogram of an *Earl's CORONET* >>
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. King Henry V Act 2, Prologue
.
Chorus: Now all the youth of England are on fire,
. And silken dalliance in the wardrobe lies:
. Now thrive the ARMOURERES, and honour's thought
. *Reigns solely in the breast of EVERy man* :
. They sell the pasture now to buy the HORSE,
. Following the mirror of all Christian kings,
. With winged heels, as English MERCURIES.
. For now sits Expectation in the air,
. And hides a sword from hilts unto the point
. *With CROWNs imperial, CROWNs and CORONETS*,
. PROMISED to Harry and his followers.
. The French, advised by good intelligence
. Of this most dreadful preparation,
. *SHAKE in their fear* and with pale policy
. *SEEK to DIVERt* the English purposes.
. O England! model to thy inward greatness,
. *Like little body with a mighty *HEART* ,
. What mightst thou do, that honour would thee do,
. Were all thy children *KIND* and natural!
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. Chettle's 'KIND-HARTE's Dream (RÊVE)
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http://www.answers.com/topic/lady-clara-vere-de-vere
.
. *Lady Clara VERE de VERE*
- by Alfred Lord Tennyson _The Lady of Shalott_ (1842)
.
Trust me, Clara *VERE de VERE* ,
.
From yon blue heavens above us BENT
.
The gardener Adam and his wife
Smile at *the claims of long descent* .
HowE'ER it be, it seems to me,
'Tis only noble to be good.
.
*KIND HEARTS are more than CORONETs* ,
*And simple faith than NORMAN BLOOD* .
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. *CORONET* : A CROWN inferior to the royal CROWN.
.
A duke's *CORONET* is adorned with strawberry leaves
above the band; that of a marquis with strawberry leaves
alternating with *PEARLS*; that of an earl has *pEARLS*
elevated on stalks, alternating with leaves above the band;
that of a *visCOUNT* has a string of *pEARLS* above the band,
but no leaves; that of a baron has only six *PEARLS*.
.................................................
http://f01.middlebury.edu/FS010A/students/*MINERVA*/title.jpg
.
. (V I\V\ I T U R
. I N G \E\ N I O
. |C||E||T| E \R\ A M
. |O||R||T| I S \E\ R
. |U N T|
.
______________ *COUNT VERE*
_____*COU-RONNE* [French] *CORONET* , corona
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. *THE DUCHESS* of Malfi Act III Scene V
.
[ANTonio Bologna: The Duchess's STEWARD...later husband]
.
DUCH. : I had a *VERy STRANGE DREAM* to-night.
.
ANT. : What was 't?
.
DUCH. : Methought I wore my *CORONET* of state,
.. And on a sudden all the diamonds
.. Were chang'd to *PEARLS*.
.
ANT. : My interpretation
. Is, you 'll weep shortly; for to me the *PEARLS*
.. Do signify your tears.
.
DUCH. : The birds that live i' th' field
. On the wild benefit of NATURE live
. Happier than we; for they may choose their mates,
. And carol their sweet pleasures to the SPRING.
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1891: STRANGE SECRETS OF LAFAYETTE SQUARE
UFO Roundup/UFOINFO LogoUFO Roundup/UFOINFO Logo
Volume 10 Number 3 January 19, 2005
<<Of all the sites associated with Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert
du Motier, the Marquis de Lafayette, there is none quite as spooky as
that little park just north of the White House in Washington D.C. .
At 748 Jackson Place N.W. stands the Decatur House. Stephen Decatur,
then the youngest captain in the U.S. Navy and a hero of the
war with the Barbary pirates, commissioned the famous Masonic
architect, Benjamin Henry Latrobe, to design & build the townhouse.
Just a few doors away, on Lafayette Square, is another of
Latrobe's works--St. John's Church, with its Greek portico and
(minus the steeple, which was added later--J.T.) its eerie
resemblance to the temple of *ATHENA* Nike in Greece.
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http://members.nbci.com/book_archive/00/gk/homer/07.html
.
<<*ATHENE* shed *A DEEP* MIST about Odysseus for the favour that
she bare him, lest any of the Phaeacians, high of *HEART* , should
meet him and mock him in sharp speech, *and ask him who he was* .
.
But when he was now about to enter the pleasant city, then the
goddess, grey-eyed *ATHENE*, met him, in the fashion of a young maiden
carrying a pitcher, and she stood over against him, and goodly
Odysseus inquired of her: Now the steadfast goodly Odysseus went
through the hall, clad in a thick MIST, which *ATHENE* shed around
him,
till he came to Arete and the king Alcinous. And Odysseus cast his
hands about the *KNEES of ARETE* , and then it was that the wondrous
MIST melted from off him, and a silence fell on them that were within
the house at the sight of him, & they marvelled as they beheld him.>>
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. TOTHEO - [N] l ___{I} _ EBE G ____ ETTERO
. FTHESE_ [I] n __-{S} - UIN G ____ SONNET
. SMrWha_- [L] L __ [H]a P <P> I__ [N] ESSEA
. NDthat___ [E] T __ [E]r N_<I> T__ [I] EPROM
. ISEDB Y O u ___- [R]e V <E> R _ [L] IVING
. POEtW I s h ____ [E]t __ H [T] H__-[E] WELLW
. IShIN- G a ______ [d V e] N [T] u ______ ReRINS
. EtTIN G fort----_________ H [T] t
.
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Art Neuendorffer
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> > > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Mark Twain >> Is Shakespeare Dead? >> Chapter 8
> > > .
> > > <<This testimony is so strong, so direct, so authoritative; and so
> > > uncheapened, unwatered by guesses, and surmises, and maybe-so's,
> > > and might-have-beens, and could-have-beens, and must-have-beens,
> > > and the rest of that ton of plaster of paris out of which the
> > > biographers have built the colossal brontosaur which goes by
> > > the Stratford actor's name, that it quite convinces me that
> > > the man who wrote Shakespeare's Works knew all about law
> > > and lawyers. Also, that that man could not have been
> > > the Stratford Shakespeare--and WASN'T.>>
> > Greg Reynolds <even...@core.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You walked right into that one, Art!
> > > Mark Twain is a fiction writer!
> Greg Reynolds <even...@core.com> wrote:
> >
> > I of course meant to say: Mark Twa-in
> >
> > (I had forgotte pseudo-nyms get hy-phens.)
You had forgot the Art if you failed to anticipate the torrent of
lunatic logorrhea that constitutes his followup below, Greg:
> "Shake-Speare" as a pseudonym
> http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shakespeare_authorship
>
> <<According to literary historians Taylor and Mosher, "In the 16th and
> 17th centuries, the Golden Age of pseudonyms, almost every writer used
> a pseudonym at some time in his career". In this regard, many anti-
> Stratfordians question the hyphen that often appeared in the name
> "Shake-speare", which they believe
But anti-Stratfordians will believe almost anything!
>indicated the use of such a
> pseudonym.
> Examples of oft-hyphenated names include Tom Tell-truth,
> Martin Mar-prelate (who pamphleteered against church "prelates") and
> Cuthbert Curry-nave, who "curried" his "knavish" enemies. According to
> authorship researcher Mark Anderson,
"Researcher"?! I didn't realize that Wikipedia had such a dry
sense of humor.
> the hyphenated "Shake-speare" is
> another example in this vein, alluding to the patron goddess of art
> and literature, Athena, who sprang from the forehead of Zeus,
This old canard about the hyphen evidently sprang from a different
part of some anti-Stratfordian's anatomy.
> shaking
> a spear. Stratfordians have responded that the hyphenated version was
> not consistent and that the hyphen was merely misplaced, so the issue
> should be discounted. Oxfordian Charlton Ogburn responded by adding
> that of the "32 editions of Shakespeare's plays published before the
> First Folio of 1623 in which the author was named at all, the name was
> hyphenated in fifteen - almost half." Further, it was hyphenated by
> John Davies in the famous poem which references the poet as "Our
> English Terence", by fellow playwright John Webster, and by the
> epigrammatist of 1639 who wrote, "Shake-speare, we must be silent in
> they [sic] praise...".
Wikipedia's slapdash standards of proofreading are about as lax as
your own, Art. But don't feel too bad -- Ogburn misquotes the line
too.
> Ogburn notes that the hyphen was only used by other
> writers or publishers, and not by the poet himself (he did not use it
> in his personal dedications of his two long narrative poems). On this
> evidence, Ogburn concluded that the hyphenation was not inconsistent
> or misplaced, and did follow a noticeable pattern.>>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> . the Serpent/SNAKE of Ignorance
> .....................................................
> http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/*MINERVA*.html
> http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/peacham/bacon.html
> http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/apollo/frameset-apollo.html
> .
> <<Woodblock illustration on Page 34 of Henry Peacham's book of emblems
> entitled *MINERVA* Britanna, published in London in 1612 by Wa: Dight.
> The page is dedicated 'To the most judicious, and learned, Sir Francis
> Bacon, Knight', and bears the motto 'Ex malis moribus bona leges'
> . 'Out of the *DEATH of EVIL* , a legacy of good'.>>
> .
> <<"The emblem shows Bacon's direct connection with the Knights of the
> Helmet from which Freemasonry evolved.
Is that why you wear your tinfoil helmet, Art?
> The Knight is wearing a high
> hat which simulates the Knight's Helmet and the Mason's high hat,
> to indicate his *order & invisibilty* ;
So you think that Freemasons are invisible, Art?! The credulity of
anti-Stratfordians is of course a commonplace, but rarely does one
encounter such extreme cases.
> & he has the staff in his
> right hand in the act of destroying the Serpent of Ignorance.">>
> . --from Bacon Masonry by George Tudhope
> .
> <<The illustration depicts a 'SHEPHERD SWAiNe'-i.e., a SHEPHERD
> who is also a SWINEHERD-who is piercing a VIPER with his SPEAR.
> Both the SHEPHERD and the SWINEHERD are associated with APOLLO,
> the god of poetic inspiration & illumination, who is reputed
> to have incarnated in those forms in order to look after his
> sheep or SWINE. Both the sheep & SWINE are symbols for mankind.
> In the Christian story it is Christ who became the SHEPHERD.
> In the Bardic Mysteries it is Merlin who became the SWINEHERD.
> The *COURTIER-POET* was represented in Elizabethan England
> as a SHEPHERD-knight, the symbolism stemming from that
> of APOLLO and the allegory of *ARCADIA* ,
Et in Arcadia ego!
> the idyllic land
> of the great god Pan, whose inhabitants were famed as warriors,
> poets and SHEPHERDs. Hyssop is an aromatic plant used in
> purification rituals. According to Greek myth, APOLLO inhabits
> the twin-peaked summit of Mount PARNASSUS, the Mountain of
> Poetry & Music, together with *ATHENA*, his feminine counterpart,
> and the nine Muses. On the slopes of PARNASSUS lies Delphi,
> the Oracle centre, by the Castalian *SPRING* .
But Art -- "Castalian Spring" is an anagram of "Art C. N. slips
again"!
> APOLLO is
> known as the DaySTAR & Leader of the choir of Muses, whilst
> *ATHENA* is called the Tenth Muse, Chief of the other nine.>>
With all this talk of Muses you're beginning to sound like
lacksanity, Art.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> February 2 ritual at the Goddess Brighid/St. Brigit's Well
> ...........................................................
> <<As patroness of poetry & crops, Brigit is most clearly equated
> with Freya whose animal is the DEER, & whose bird is the SWAN.>>
But Art -- if her day is February 2, shouldn't her animal be the
groundhog?
> <<St. Brigit/Brigantia/BRITANNIA was the personified genia
> of Britain and was first depicted on a coin of Antoninus
> Pius (d. AD 161). Latterly, Britannia, with the
> attributes & weapons of *MINERVA* , appeared on
> coins during the reign of Charles II in 1665.>>
> .
> February 2, 1650, Charles II's mistress NELL Gwin born
> February 2, 1685, Charles II: "Let not poor Nellie starve" & died.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> . <<Inscribed on *ATHENA'S* shield is a Latin motto,
> .
> __ *OBSCURIS VERA INVOLVENS*
> .
> . meaning *TRUTH is enveloped in obscurity* ,
You've got the obscurity part down pat, Art.
[Many screenfuls of lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Greg [F]orgot the [ART] ! Horrors!
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> "Shake-Speare" as a pseudonym
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shakespeare_authorship
>
>> <<According to literary historians Taylor and Mosher, "In the 16th and
>> 17th centuries, the Golden Age of pseudonyms, almost every writer used
>> a pseudonym at some time in his career". In this regard, many anti-
>> Stratfordians question the hyphen that often appeared in the name
>> "Shake-speare", which they believe
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> But anti-Stratfordians will believe almost anything!
Not without reason.
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>>indicated the use of such a pseudonym.
>> Examples of oft-hyphenated names include Tom Tell-truth,
>> Martin Mar-prelate (who pamphleteered against church "prelates")
>> and Cuthbert Curry-nave, who "curried" his "knavish" enemies.
>> According to authorship researcher Mark Anderson,
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> "Researcher"?!
> I didn't realize that Wikipedia had such a dry sense of humor.
Who's Wiki-pedia?
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> the hyphenated "Shake-speare" is another
>> example in this vein, alluding to the patron goddess of art
>> and literature, Athena, who sprang from the forehead of Zeus,
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> This old canard about the hyphen evidently sprang from
> a different part of some anti-Stratfordian's anatomy.
.
You're talking about my patron goddess HERE you know!
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> shaking
>> a spear. Stratfordians have responded that the hyphenated version was
>> not consistent and that the hyphen was merely misplaced, so the issue
>> should be discounted. Oxfordian Charlton Ogburn responded by adding
>> that of the "32 editions of Shakespeare's plays published before the
>> First Folio of 1623 in which the author was named at all, the name was
>> hyphenated in fifteen - almost half." Further, it was hyphenated by
>> John Davies in the famous poem which references the poet as "Our
>> English Terence", by fellow playwright John Webster, and by the
>> epigrammatist of 1639 who wrote, "Shake-speare, we must be silent in
>> they [sic] praise...".
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Wikipedia's slapdash standards of proofreading are
> about as lax as your own, Art. But don't feel
> too bad -- Ogburn misquotes the line too.
.
Which *NV* could not? :
-------------------------------------------------------
Harvey: <<Euphues (Lyly) the Ape of *ENVIE* (i.e., Oxford)>>
----------------------------------------------------
. 1640 *Wit's Recreation*:
. To Master William Shakespeare
.
. Shakespeare, we must be silent in thy praise,
. 'Cause our encomiums will but blast thy bays,
. Which *ENVY* could not, that thou didst so well
. *Let thine own HISTORIES prove thy chronicle*
------------------------------------------------------
___ *by ME* is Atbash code for
___ *yb NV*
.
Jonson: <<To draw no *ENVY* (Shakespeare) on thy name,
_______ Am I thus ample to thy Booke, and Fame>>
---------------------------------------------------
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/text.html
____ *EDOUARUS VEIERUS*
_____ per anagramma
____ *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
__ [ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE* ]
...............................................
*ENVY* , v. i. [F. ENVIE, L. invidia envious;
akin to inViDERE to look askance at, to look with enmity;
. in against + *VIDERE* TO SEE.]
-----------------------------------------------
*ENVY* is derived from the French *enVIER*
'To draw no *envy* (Shakespeare) on thy name'
.
*en VIER* : BOAR Inn (Romansh / Sutsilvan)
*en VIER* : one dedicates (Norwegian)
.
*en VI ER* : We are one (Norwegian)
*en VIER* : and *FOUR* (Dutch, Flemish)
.
*All for one, and one for All* - *FOUR* musketeers.
*Ung par touS, touS par ung* - Southampton
-------------------------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> Ogburn notes that the hyphen was only used by other
>> writers or publishers, and not by the poet himself (he did not use it
>> in his personal dedications of his two long narrative poems). On this
>> evidence, Ogburn concluded that the hyphenation was not inconsistent
>> or misplaced, and did follow a noticeable pattern.>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> . the Serpent/SNAKE of Ignorance
>> .....................................................
>>http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/*MINERVA*.html
>>http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/peacham/bacon.html
>>http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/apollo/frameset-apollo.html
>> .
>> <<Woodblock illustration on Page 34 of Henry Peacham's book of emblems
>> entitled *MINERVA* Britanna, published in London in 1612 by Wa: Dight.
>> The page is dedicated 'To the most judicious, and learned, Sir Francis
>> Bacon, Knight', and bears the motto 'Ex malis moribus bona leges'
>> . 'Out of the *DEATH of EVIL* , a legacy of good'.>>
>> .
>> <<"The emblem shows Bacon's direct connection with
>> the Knights of the Helmet from which Freemasonry evolved.
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Is that why you wear your tinfoil helmet, Art?
I wear my aluminum foil helmet in honor of the Washington Monument.
<<The first audio recordings on phonograph cylinders were made on tin
foil. Cylinders were sold in cardboard tubes, with cardboard lids at
each end. These containers and the shape of the cylinders (together
with the "tinny" sound of early records compared to live music)
prompted bandleader John Philip Sousa to deride the records as canned
music.>>
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> The Knight is wearing a high hat which simulates
>> the Knight's Helmet and the Mason's high hat,
>> to indicate his *order & invisibilty* ;
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> So you think that Freemasons are invisible, Art?!
...............................................
*ENVY* [ *IN* against + *VIDERE* TO SEE.]
...................................................
"He endured, as seeing him who is *INVISIBLE* ." - Heb.11.
"To us *INVISIBLE* , or dimly seen In these thy lowest works." -
Milton.
------------------------------------
*INVISIBLE* , n.
1. An *INVISIBLE* person or thing; specifically, [G]od, the Supreme
Being.
2. A *ROSICRUCIAN* ;
. -- so called because avoiding declaration of his craft. [Obs.]
3. (Eccl. Hist.) One of those (as in the 16th century)
. who denied the visibility of the church.
------------------------------------
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> & he has the staff in his
>> right hand in the act of destroying the Serpent of Ignorance.">>
>> . --from Bacon Masonry by George Tudhope
>> .
>> <<The illustration depicts a 'SHEPHERD SWAiNe'-i.e., a SHEPHERD
>> who is also a SWINEHERD-who is piercing a VIPER with his SPEAR.
>> Both the SHEPHERD and the SWINEHERD are associated with APOLLO,
>> the god of poetic inspiration & illumination, who is reputed
>> to have incarnated in those forms in order to look after his
>> sheep or SWINE. Both the sheep & SWINE are symbols for mankind.
>> In the Christian story it is Christ who became the SHEPHERD.
>> In the Bardic Mysteries it is Merlin who became the SWINEHERD.
>> The *COURTIER-POET* was represented in Elizabethan England
>> as a SHEPHERD-knight, the symbolism stemming from that
>> of APOLLO and the allegory of *ARCADIA* ,
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Et in Arcadia ego!
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> the idyllic land
>> of the great god Pan, whose inhabitants were famed as warriors,
>> poets and SHEPHERDs. Hyssop is an aromatic plant used in
>> purification rituals. According to Greek myth, APOLLO inhabits
>> the twin-peaked summit of Mount PARNASSUS, the Mountain of
>> Poetry & Music, together with *ATHENA*, his feminine counterpart,
>> and the nine Muses. On the slopes of PARNASSUS lies Delphi,
>> the Oracle centre, by the Castalian *SPRING* .
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> But Art -- "Castalian Spring" is
> an anagram of "Art C. N. slips again"!
Too many words again, Dave:
-------------------------------------
____ *CASTALIAN*
____ *SATANICAL*
<<In a cupboard, under lock and key, she kept a mysterious object of
which she thought a great deal. The rule of Fontevrault did not forbid
this. She would not show this object to anyone. She shut herself up,
which her rule allowed her to do, and hid herself, every time that she
desired to contemplate it. If she heard a footstep in the corridor,
she closed the cupboard again as hastily as it was possible with her
aged hands. As soon as it was mentioned to her, she became silent, she
who was so fond of talking. The most curious were baffled by her
silence and the most tenacious by her obstinacy. Thus it furnished a
subject of comment for all those who were unoccupied or bored in the
convent. What could that treasure of the centenarian be, which was so
precious and so secret? Some holy book, no doubt? Some unique chaplet?
Some authentic relic? They lost themselves in conjectures. When the
poor old woman died, they rushed to her cupboard more hastily than was
fitting, perhaps, and opened it. They found the object beneath a
triple linen cloth, like some consecrated paten. It was a Faenza
platter representing little Loves flitting away pursued by apothecary
lads armed with enormous syringes. The chase abounds in grimaces and
in comical postures. One of the charming little Loves is already
fairly spitted. He is resisting, fluttering his tiny wings, and still
making an effort to fly, but the dancer is laughing with a *SATANICAL*
air. Moral: Love conquered by the colic. This platter, which is very
curious, and which had, possibly, the honor of furnishing Moliere with
an idea, was still in existence in September, 1845; it was for sale by
a bric-a-brac merchant in the Boulevard Beaumarchais.>> - Victor Hugo
» Les Miserables » Chapter IX. A Century under a Guimpe
-------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> APOLLO is
>> known as the DaySTAR & Leader of the choir of Muses, whilst
>> *ATHENA* is called the Tenth Muse, Chief of the other nine.>>
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> With all this talk of Muses
> you're beginning to sound like lacksanity, Art.
Don't you believe in Muses, Dave?
What about Lolita?
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> February 2 ritual at the Goddess Brighid/St. Brigit's Well
>> ...........................................................
>> <<As patroness of poetry & crops, Brigit is most clearly equated
>> with Freya whose animal is the DEER, & whose bird is the SWAN.>>
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> But Art -- if her day is February 2,
> shouldn't her animal be the groundhog?
You're thinking of Bob Grumman or the Shaksper twins.
.
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>
>> <<St. Brigit/Brigantia/BRITANNIA was the personified genia
>> of Britain and was first depicted on a coin of Antoninus
>> Pius (d. AD 161). Latterly, Britannia, with the
>> attributes & weapons of *MINERVA* , appeared on
>> coins during the reign of Charles II in 1665.>>
>> .
>> February 2, 1650, Charles II's mistress NELL Gwin born
>> February 2, 1685, Charles II: "Let not poor Nellie starve" & died.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> . <<Inscribed on *ATHENA'S* shield is a Latin motto,
>> .
>> __ *OBSCURIS VERA INVOLVENS*
>> .
>> . meaning *TRUTH is enveloped in obscurity* ,
.
nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> You've got the obscurity part down pat, Art.
I do my best.
Art Neuendorffer
Meandevere
1. an occasion of wandering aimlessly;
2. a circuitous journey (circular reasoning);
3. the act of losing clarity or coherence of thought or expression;
4. a twisted path like that left by a snake.
(from meander and de Vere)(A meander in general is a bend in a sinuous
watercourse, also known as an oxbow loop, or simply an oxbow. A stream
of any volume may assume a meandering course, alternatively eroding
sediments from the outside of a bend and depositing them on the
inside. The result is a snaking pattern as the stream meanders back
and forth across its down-valley axis. When a meander gets cut off
from the main stream, an oxbow lake is formed. -- wikipedia).
Decognotions
Erraziones
Oxfuscations
Perploxities
Coxblockers
Pompoxities
Pheonies (phony/ponies/eo)
Veregrinations
Verebosities
Boarshite
Is there a prize for the winner?
Dom
> Here is a link to my notes for the cipher talk:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/sf/
.
Wilkins's Route [Boustrophedon] transposition cipher
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/sf/wilkins.html
------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/*WILKINS*/*WILKINS*.html
.
<<JOHN *WILKINS* was born January 1, 1614, the son of an Oxford
watchmaker. He became an undergraduate at MAGDALEN Hall at
age 13 & graduated MA in 1634. He sided with the republican
faction becoming chaplain to a series of anti-Stuart noblemen,
and wrote `Mercury' in 1641 at the age of 27.
`Mercury, or the Secret & Swift Messenger', described in
David Kahn's history `The Codebreakers' as `the first book
in English on CRYPTOGRAPHY'. It is much more than that!>>
--------------------------------------------------------------
John *WILKINS'S* _MATHEMATICAL MAGICK_
--------------------------------------------------------------
Martin Gardner's "MATHEMATICAL GAMES"
Douglas Hofstadter's "METAMAGICAL THEMAS"
--------------------------------------------------------------
"MATHEMATICAL GAMES"
"AMALGAMATE CHEMIST"
AMALGAMATE, v. t.: To compound or mix, as *QUICKSILVER*,
with another metal; to unite, combine, or alloy with mercury.
-----------------------------------------
One of the interesting aspects of the Spenser case is the relationship
between Spenser, Sir Walter Raleigh, and John Dee. The internal
evidence in Spenser's writings shows that Spenser and Raleigh were
close. In "Shakespeare's Other Side of Midnight" I have shown that all
three were close. Bacon (Spenser), Raleigh, and Dee are linked in the
1580's in England. This inevitably points to the subject of the
Rosicrucians and the question of Dee, Bacon, and Raleigh's connection
with that mysterious Fraternity. In the "Fama", which introduces the
Rosicrucians, we are told of three brethren of the fraternity: D, R,
and F.B., of whom by 1614, D had died, and only R, and F.B. were still
alive. F.B. was described as the Master, painter, and architect of
the Fraternity. Furthermore, we know the first name of F.B. was
Francis. This information is supplied in 1648 in a book titled
"Mathematical Magick" by John *WILKINS*. Discussing a particular kind
of
lamp for use underground, *WILKINS* (referring to the vault described
in
the Fama Fraternity of the Rosy Cross) said that such a lamp:
"is related to be seen in the sepulchre of Francis Rosicrosse, as
is more largely expressed in the Confession of that Fraternity."
-------------------------------------------------------------
The Dunciad, Book 4 By Alexander Pope
Edited and annotated by Jack Lynch
http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Texts/dunciad4.html
The mind, in Metaphysics at a loss,
May wander in a wilderness of Moss;
The head that turns at super-lunar things,
Poiz'd with a tail, may steer on *WILKINS' wings*
O! would the Sons of Men once think their *EYES*
And Reason giv'n them but to study Flies!
See Nature in some partial narrow shape,
And let the Author of the Whole escape:
-----------------------------------------
http://www.masoncode.com/Great%20Seal%20Sonnets.htm
.
A nice *EYES* pattern emerges
if the sonnets are written out in
boustrophedon "ox path" style:
..................................................
*Under a STAR-Y-pointing PYRAMID* -- Milton (1630)
.
---------- *SONET EYES*
...
---------------- * 154
--------------- 0 0 153
-------------- 0 * * 151
------------- 0 * * * 148
------------ 0 0 Y * * 144
----------- 0 * 0 * * * 139
---------- 0 * * 0 * 0 0 133
-------------------------------------------
--------- * * * * 0 * 0 * 125
-------- * * * * 0 0 * * * 117
------- * * 0 * 0 * * * * * 108
------ 0 * * * * 0 * 0 * * * 98
----- * * * * 0 * 0 * * 0 * * 87
---- * * * * * * 0 * * * * * * 75
--- 0 0 * * * * 0 0 * * * * * 0 62
-- * * * * * * * * * 0 * * 0 0 * 48
- 0 * 0 0 0 * * * 0 0 0 * * 0 * 0 33
. 0 0 * * 0 * 0 * 0 * * * * 0 * 0 0 17
----------------------------------------------------
What needs my Shakespeare for his honour'd bones,
The labour of an age in piled *STONES* ,
.....................................
_____*STONES*
_____{anagram}
_____*SONETS*
.....................................
Or that his hallow'd relics should be hid
*Under a STAR-Y-pointing PYRAMID* ?
Dear son of memory, great heir of fame,
What need'st thou such weak witness of thy name?
------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
]snip[
Typical. Cheops logic
Dom
> OK, how about "wishumentation?" The authors in question clearly WISH
> they had DOCUMENTATION to support their claims, so they use weasel
> words to give the appearance of documentary support. Hmm, perhaps
> "weaselumentation" is better.
Thank you; its on the list.
What it might give off in clunkiness (don't be offended, Elizabeth's
coronation on Ascension Day was called "Crownation Day") it gives
right back in efficacy.
I tried it in a sentence, 'You wishumented that!". A certain charm.
EFFICACY, n. [L. efficax.] Power to produce effects;production
. to the effect intended; the efficacy of manure in fertilizing land.
.
I know the flunky that left these Clunkies!
.
Greg Reynolds <even...@core.com> wrote:
>
> I tried it in a sentence, 'You wishumented that!".
> A certain charm.
These reports you handed in, Greg.
It's almost as if you have no authorship training at all..
I don't know what this is supposed to be!
Art Neuendorffer
Stop. I have to recover.
> (from meander and de Vere)(A meander in general is a bend in a sinuous
> watercourse, also known as an oxbow loop, or simply an oxbow. A stream
> of any volume may assume a meandering course, alternatively eroding
> sediments from the outside of a bend and depositing them on the
> inside. The result is a snaking pattern as the stream meanders back
> and forth across its down-valley axis. When a meander gets cut off
> from the main stream, an oxbow lake is formed. -- wikipedia).
Sounds as though you had a head start.
> Decognotions
> Erraziones
> Oxfuscations
> Perploxities
> Coxblockers
> Pompoxities
> Pheonies (phony/ponies/eo)
> Veregrinations
> Verebosities
> Boarshite
I don't want to influence opinion. Stunning array. Much to discern.
howeVER, they share a problem with my own newest entry--they are
Oxford-related. I fully understand and to use such a word would be to
distinguish Oxfordian [ * * *] ing from other branches. We can do
that.
Here is my entry with the same bent...
Fluffox, v, to confuse the attentive and totally convince the rest
> Is there a prize for the winner?
i could do the voice on your home answering device. Maybe a coupon for
a carwash. I'll use your word in a letter to an editor! We were hoping
the word discovery program would not be a profit scheme because we
could be outbankrolled and lose all our words to the ruthless paradigm
cartel.
Thanks for participating. You speak volumes.
Greg Reynolds
' *VEREver* he's a-goin' to be tried, my boy,
a alleybi's the thing to get him off.
--------------------------------------------------
Charles Dickens » The Pickwick Papers » Chapter 33
.......................................
Rightly conjecturing that this was the *BLUE BOAR* himself, he stepped
into the house, and inquired concerning his parent. 'He won't be here
this three-quarters of an hour or more,' said the young lady who
superintended the domestic arrangements of the *BLUE BOAR*.
.......................................
' *VEREver* he's a-goin' to be tried, my boy, a alleybi's
the thing to get him off. Ve got Tom Vildspark off that
'ere manslaughter, with a alleybi, ven all the big vigs
to a man said as nothing couldn't save him. And
my 'pinion is, Sammy, that if your governor don't
prove a alleybi, he'll be what the Italians call
reg'larly *FLUMMOXED*, and that's all about it.'
--------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
> Typical. Cheops logic
Or, it could be Giza logic -- the old giza is getting pretty long
in the tooth, and now that he's retired, senility seems to be setting
in.
> Dom
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 5:37 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, how about "wishumentation?" The authors in question clearly WISH
> > > they had DOCUMENTATION to support their claims, so they use weasel
> > > words to give the appearance of documentary support.
> Yes, yes, we do need DOCUMENTATION
For the anti-Stratfordian VERsion, may I suggest the neologism
"crockumentation"? Or, for those who know a bit of Russian and don't
object to multilingual neologisms, "durakumentation"?
[...]
I like "wishumentation" but it made me think of "oxumentation," which
made me think of toxumentation" . . .
--Bob
Hmmm, or perhaps in keeping with the concept of invented 'evidence':
Fanticise and documentation= fantication
Delusion and documentation= deluditation; or the other way? doclusion
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
[...]
> >> Greg Reynolds <even...@core.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> I of course meant to say: Mark Twa-in
> >
> >>> (I had forgotte pseudo-nyms get hy-phens.)
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > You had forgot the Art if you failed to anticipate the torrent
> > of lunatic logorrhea that constitutes his followup below, Greg:
> Greg [F]orgot the [ART] ! Horrors!
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >> "Shake-Speare" as a pseudonym
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shakespeare_authorship
> >
> >> <<According to literary historians Taylor and Mosher, "In the 16th and
> >> 17th centuries, the Golden Age of pseudonyms, almost every writer used
> >> a pseudonym at some time in his career". In this regard, many anti-
> >> Stratfordians question the hyphen that often appeared in the name
> >> "Shake-speare", which they believe
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > But anti-Stratfordians will believe almost anything!
> Not without reason.
Is there any reason to believe <http://gemstone-file-memoir.com/>,
Art -- apart from lunacy, that is?
But that's by no means the only instance. Some anti-Stratfordians
will actually believe that "vier" is Spanish for "four," presumably
because they find such tripe on lunatic internet sites. In fact, some
anti-Stratfordians will believe that the eminent Yale historian Peter
Gay perished in the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the victim was
another Peter Gay, a man a quarter century younger, with a different
middle initial, who followed a different profession (industrial plant
manager); apparently, some of the extreme lunatic fringe anti-
Stratfordians believe that a person's name identifies him or her
uniquely -- is there any reason to believe ridiculous rubbish like
that, Art?
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >>indicated the use of such a pseudonym.
> >> Examples of oft-hyphenated names include Tom Tell-truth,
> >> Martin Mar-prelate (who pamphleteered against church "prelates")
> >> and Cuthbert Curry-nave, who "curried" his "knavish" enemies.
> >> According to authorship researcher Mark Anderson,
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > "Researcher"?!
> > I didn't realize that Wikipedia had such a dry sense of humor.
> Who's Wiki-pedia?
QED.
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >> the hyphenated "Shake-speare" is another
> >> example in this vein, alluding to the patron goddess of art
> >> and literature, Athena, who sprang from the forehead of Zeus,
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > This old canard about the hyphen evidently sprang from
> > a different part of some anti-Stratfordian's anatomy.
> You're talking about my patron goddess HERE you know!
If your patron goddess is anyone other than Saint Carolyn, you
could be in a lot of trouble, Art.
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >> shaking
> >> a spear. Stratfordians have responded that the hyphenated version was
> >> not consistent and that the hyphen was merely misplaced, so the issue
> >> should be discounted. Oxfordian Charlton Ogburn responded by adding
> >> that of the "32 editions of Shakespeare's plays published before the
> >> First Folio of 1623 in which the author was named at all, the name was
> >> hyphenated in fifteen - almost half." Further, it was hyphenated by
> >> John Davies in the famous poem which references the poet as "Our
> >> English Terence", by fellow playwright John Webster, and by the
> >> epigrammatist of 1639 who wrote, "Shake-speare, we must be silent in
> >> they [sic] praise...".
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Wikipedia's slapdash standards of proofreading are
> > about as lax as your own, Art. But don't feel
> > too bad -- Ogburn misquotes the line too.
> Which *NV* could not? :
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Harvey: <<Euphues (Lyly) the Ape of *ENVIE* (i.e., Oxford)>>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> . 1640 *Wit's Recreation*:
> . To Master William Shakespeare
> .
> . Shakespeare, we must be silent in thy praise,
> . 'Cause our encomiums will but blast thy bays,
> . Which *ENVY* could not, that thou didst so well
> . *Let thine own HISTORIES prove thy chronicle*
> ------------------------------------------------------
> ___ *by ME* is Atbash
I have no use for atbashers or catbashers, Art -- you should take
that up with lackpurity.
> code for
> ___ *yb NV*
...which is complete nonsense.
[...]
> >> <<Woodblock illustration on Page 34 of Henry Peacham's book of emblems
> >> entitled *MINERVA* Britanna, published in London in 1612 by Wa: Dight.
> >> The page is dedicated 'To the most judicious, and learned, Sir Francis
> >> Bacon, Knight', and bears the motto 'Ex malis moribus bona leges'
> >> . 'Out of the *DEATH of EVIL* , a legacy of good'.>>
> >> .
> >> <<"The emblem shows Bacon's direct connection with
> >> the Knights of the Helmet from which Freemasonry evolved.
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Is that why you wear your tinfoil helmet, Art?
> I wear my aluminum foil helmet in honor of the Washington Monument.
>
> <<The first audio recordings on phonograph cylinders were made on tin
> foil. Cylinders were sold in cardboard tubes, with cardboard lids at
> each end. These containers and the shape of the cylinders (together
> with the "tinny" sound of early records compared to live music)
> prompted bandleader John Philip Sousa to deride the records as canned
> music.>>
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >> The Knight is wearing a high hat which simulates
> >> the Knight's Helmet and the Mason's high hat,
> >> to indicate his *order & invisibilty* ;
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > So you think that Freemasons are invisible, Art?!
[...]
> *INVISIBLE* , n.
>
> 1. An *INVISIBLE* person or thing; specifically, [G]od, the Supreme
> Being.
>
> 2. A *ROSICRUCIAN* ;
> . -- so called because avoiding declaration of his craft. [Obs.]
>
> 3. (Eccl. Hist.) One of those (as in the 16th century)
> . who denied the visibility of the church.
I've neVER denied the risibility of the Oxfordian cult, Art.
> .
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >>
> >> & he has the staff in his
> >> right hand in the act of destroying the Serpent of Ignorance.">>
> >> . --from Bacon Masonry by George Tudhope
> >> .
> >> <<The illustration depicts a 'SHEPHERD SWAiNe'-i.e., a SHEPHERD
> >> who is also a SWINEHERD-who is piercing a VIPER with his SPEAR.
> >> Both the SHEPHERD and the SWINEHERD are associated with APOLLO,
> >> the god of poetic inspiration & illumination, who is reputed
> >> to have incarnated in those forms in order to look after his
> >> sheep or SWINE. Both the sheep & SWINE are symbols for mankind.
> >> In the Christian story it is Christ who became the SHEPHERD.
> >> In the Bardic Mysteries it is Merlin who became the SWINEHERD.
> >> The *COURTIER-POET* was represented in Elizabethan England
> >> as a SHEPHERD-knight, the symbolism stemming from that
> >> of APOLLO and the allegory of *ARCADIA* ,
> .
> nordicskiv2 <David.L.W...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Et in Arcadia ego!
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> I do my best.
Too bad about the other part.
> Art Neuendorffer
I like Dominic's words, too, Greg. It would be good if we could
relate them all to anti-Stratfordians in general, but I don't see how
we. I have the opposite problem with your good coinages--they have
nothing specifically to do with the authorship cranks.
I still consider my "looneations" fairly successful and a possible
model. It has to do with finding "inexplicable gaps" in the Stratford
man's biography--like no school record. Looney didn't invent the
technique--some Baconian did. But he brought it to its, uh, looniest
level. He used it Oxfordianly, but that doesn't mean no other anti-
Stratfordian sect has used it, or can. I'm not offering the term
here, though--you're looking for something else.
--Bob
And the Giza is going on and on and becoming an old blue bore....
Dom
I do seem to be stuck in an Oxfordian phase with these words, and they
just keep turning up. Such as:
preverecate (prevaricate)
When I get a chance I'm going to try to come up with a term that will
ecompass all of the doubters.
Maybe once a word has been chosen for the phenomenon the next contest
should be for everyone to post their favorite instance of it.
Dom
Another word applicable to Oxfordian misdirection:
Lummoxation
or
Flummoxation (inspired by Greg’s “fluffox”)
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Some generally applicable words:
Logicide (You committed logicide when you jumped from “could” to
“would” to “then” to “did”.)
Distemporize [distemporization] (You are engaged in the malicious and
intentional flummoxation of cause and effect, otherwise known as the
practice of distemporizing.)
Circumlogicute [circumlogicution]
Strawmatize [strawmiatization] (strawman and traumatize)
Inductape (To introduce a neophyte to supposedly new knowledge, to
induct into a society with a shared secret, with a hint of criminal
intent.)
Hysteriography (Historiography gone over the edge.)
Circulinference (Arguing from your end -- so to speak.)
Fictification
Masturbalization
Tigershart (A play on the Groatsworth) (beastly menace and crap)
Biasyllogism
Graphishart (graphishart is the act of writing crap, where one small
freep becomes a torrent)(this is a bow to Crowley and to Oxford)
Crow-lie (The assertion that Shakespeare was illiterate is one big
crow-lie.)
Dom