Savoy (links to Stradling and Grandison families) (Blanche Parry, the Herberts, etc.)
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I'm sending in a little about Savoy,
as it links to the Stradling and Grandison families - (Blanche Parry,
the Herberts, etc.)
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Savoy
It has been suggested that Italian Savoia be merged into this article
or section. (Discuss)
Flag of Savoy
This article is about the historical region of Savoy. For other
uses, see Savoy (disambiguation)
For the two French départements of the region of Savoy, see Savoie
and Haute-Savoie
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Savoy (French: Savoie, pronounced [savwa]; Franco-Provençal: Savouè;
Italian: Savoia, German: Savoyen)
is a region of Europe on the western flank of the Alps that emerged,
along with the free communes of Switzerland, following the collapse of
the Frankish Kingdom of Burgundy.
Installed by Rudolph III, King of Burgundy, officially in 1003, the
House of Savoy became the longest surviving royal house in Europe. It
ruled the County of Savoy to 1416 and then the Duchy of Savoy from
1416 to 1714. The County and Duchy of Savoy incorporated Turin and
other territories in Piedmont, a region in north western Italy that
borders Savoy, which were also possessions of the House of Savoy.
The capital of the Duchy remained at the traditional Savoyard capital
of Chambéry until 1563, when it was moved to Turin. In the 18th
century, the Duchy of Savoy was linked with the Kingdom of Sardinia.
While the heads of the House of Savoy were known as the Kings of
Sardinia, Turin remained their capital.
The original territory of Savoy was absorbed into France in 1860, as
part of the political agreement with Napoleon III that brought about
the unification of Italy, but the House of Savoy retained its Italian
lands and its heads became the Kings of Italy.
In modern France, Savoy is part of the Rhône-Alpes region. Following
its annexation to France in 1860, the territory of Savoy was divided
administratively into two separate départements, Savoie and Haute-
Savoie.
The modern separatist / regionalist movements are discussed in the
"Annexation and Opposition" section in this article.
The traditional capital remains Chambéry (Chiamberì), on the rivers
Leysse and Albane, hosting the castle of the House of Savoy and the
Savoyard senate. The state included six districts:
* Savoy proper, sometimes known as Ducal Savoy (capital Chambéry)
* Chablais (capital Thonon-les-Bains)
* Faucigny (capital Bonneville)
* Tarentaise (capital Moûtiers)
* Maurienne (capital Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne)
* Genevois (capital Annecy).
Contents
* 1 History
* 2 French occupation
* 3 Annexation and opposition
* 4 Notes
* 5 See also
* 6 External links
History
Map of Savoy in the 16th century, white lines are modern borders
The region was once part of the Roman Empire. The name Savoy stems
from the Late Latin Sapaudia, referring to a fir forest.[1] It is
first recorded in Ammianus Marcellinus (354), to describe the southern
part of Maxima Sequanorum[2] According to the Gallic Chronicle of 452,
it was separated from the rest of Burgundian territories in 443, after
the Burgundian defeat by Aetius.[3]
Later it became part of the Kingdom of the Franks. The first
embodiment of Savoy in the modern sense was created out of a fragment
of Middle Francia, the central of the three kingdoms into which the
Frankish Empire was divided by the Treaty of Verdun (843).[4]
Savoy was part of Lotharingia, then part of the Kingdom of Burgundy
(also known as the Kingdom of Arles. The County of Savoy was detached
from the Kingdom of Arles by emperor Charles IV in 1361. In 1388, the
County of Nice was acquired, and in 1401 the County of Genevois (the
area of Geneva except for the city proper).
On February 19, 1416, Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor, made the County
of Savoy an independent duchy, with Amédée VIII as the first duke. In
1563 Emmanuel Philibert moved capital from Chambéry to Turin, which
was less vulnerable to French interference.
In 1714, as a consequence of the War of the Spanish Succession, Savoy
was technically subsumed into the Kingdom of Sicily, then (after that
island was traded to Austria for Sardinia) the Kingdom of Sardinia
from 1720.
French occupation
Savoy was occupied by French revolutionary forces between 1792 and
1815. The region was first added to the département of Mont-Blanc,
then in 1798 was divided between the départements of Mont-Blanc and
Léman (French name of Lake Geneva.)
On September 13, 1793 the combined forces of Savoy, Piedmont and
Valdot fought against and lost to the occupying French forces at the
Battle of Méribel (Sallanches).
Savoy, along with Piedmont and Nice were restored to the Kingdom of
Sardinia at the Congress of Vienna in 1814-1815.
Annexation and opposition
The Château de Chambéry, seat of government, was given a grand new
façade following annexation
Savoy was annexed by France on March 24, 1860 according to the
provisions of the Treaty of Turin. The treaty was followed on April
22/23 by a plebiscite in which voters were offered the option of
approving the treaty and joining France or rejecting the treaty under
certain conditions; the disallowed options of either joining
Switzerland (with which the region had close ties), remaining with
Italy, or regaining its independence, were the source of some
opposition. With a 99.8% vote in favour of joining France, there were
allegations of vote-rigging.
Some opposition to French rule was manifest when, in 1919, France
officially (but contrary to the annexation treaty) ended the military
neutrality of the parts of the country of Savoy that had originally
been agreed at the Congress of Vienna, and also eliminated the free
trade zone - both treaty articles having been broken unofficially in
World War I. France was condemned in 1932 by the international court
for the non compliance with the measures of the treaty of Turin, on
the countries of Savoy and Nice.
For reasons such as these, there is currently a peaceful separatist
movement in the départements, as well as a faction in favour of
greater regional powers.
The Mouvement Région Savoie (Savoy Regional Movement) was founded in
December 1971 as a 'movement' (rather than a traditional political
party) in favour of regional autonomy. In the 1996 local elections the
Savoie Regional Movement received 19,434 votes.
In the March 1998 regional elections, 1 seat (out of 23) was won by
Patrice Abeille, leader of the Ligue Savoisienne (Savoie League,
founded 1994), which had set up a 'provisional Savoie government' two
years earlier. This group base its actions on the decline of the
treaty of annexation. The League gathered a total of 17,865 votes
across the two départements. In the same elections a further 4,849
voted in favour of the Savoie Movement.
As a result of the regional debate sparked by the political advances,
the non-party organisation, La Région Savoie, j’y crois ! (I believe
in the Savoy Region!), was founded in 1998. The organisation campaigns
for the replacement of the Savoie and Haute-Savoie départements with a
regional government, separate from the Rhône-Alpes region, with
greater devolved powers. According to surveys conducted in 2000,
between 41% and 55% of the population are in favour of the proposal.
19% to 23% were in favour of separation from France.
In 2004, Waiting for freedom in Savoy [1] was founded to promote the
peaceful separatist cause to young people.
Towards the end of 2005, Hervé Gaymard called for Savoie to be given
special status similar to a French region, under his proposed 'Conseil
des Pays de Savoie'.[5]
Notes
1. ^ Modern French sapin; sapinière signifies "fir forest".
2. ^ The territory, which has no modern counterpart, was perhaps
bounded by the rivers Ain and Rhône, Lac Léman, the Jura and the Aar,
though historians differ, and there seems to be insufficient evidence:
see Norman H. Baynes, reviewing A. Coville, Recherches sur l'Histoire
de Lyon du Ve au IXe Siècle (450-800) in The English Historical Review
45 No. 179 (July 1930:470-474) p 471.
3. ^ Sapaudia Burgundionum reliquiis datur cum indigenis dividenda.
(in T. Mommsen, Chronica Minora II:660, 128.
4. ^ The long drawn out collapse of Middle Francia, and the
disputation of its former territories by more powerful neighbours such
as France (originally West Francia), is one of the main dynamics of
Western European history.
5. ^ Région Savoie.
See also
* House of Savoy
* List of active autonomist and secessionist movements
External links
* Regional tourist guide
* Ligue Savoisienne (in English)
* La Région Savoie, j’y crois ! (in French)
* Francia Media}: a territorial and genealogical disambiguation of
Lorraine and Burgundy, with a section on Savoy
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoy"
Categories: Savoy | History of Italy by place | Arpitany | Regions of
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Lyra wrote:
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> I'm sending in a little about Savoy,
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> as it links to the Stradling and Grandison families - (Blanche Parry,
> the Herberts, etc.)
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There is a link to Leonardo da Vinci and the Turin Shroud -
(quote, excerpts)
Also, Leonardo Da Vinci would have had to ask for permission from
the Savoy family in Chambery, England
to release the shroud to him in or around 1492. Then, in one single
attempt, he would have had to produce his own photographic image
without making a mistake.
The Savoy family paid 50 gold franks to claim their ownership of the
Shroud and were busy at that time renovating the Church of Chambery
for the purpose of housing the Shroud, so it would be difficult to
imagine they would relinquish the Shroud to an artist living in Milan,
Italy to tamper with their prized possession.
http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/leonardo-da-vinci-and-the-shroud-of-turin-faq.htm
April 21, 1467: Pope Paul II elevates status of the Chambéry chapel to
a co llegiate church.
# June 11, 1502: At the behest of Duchess of Savoy Marguerite of
Austria, the Shroud is no longer moved around with the Savoys during
their travels, but given a permanent home in the Royal Chapel of
Chambéry Castle.
# 1513: Death at Chambéry of Marguerite's mother-in-law dowager
duchess Claude. She is buried behind the high altar of the Sainte
Chapelle, Chambéry, immediately facing the repository containing the
Shroud.
# Early June 1561: The Shroud is brought back to Chambéry and
deposited in the Church of St.Mary the Egyptian, in the Franciscan
convent.
1578: The saintly Cardinal Charles Borromeo (1538-1584) decides to
journey on foot from Milan to Chambery to give thanks to the Shroud
following release of Milan from the plague. To save Borromeo the
rigours of a journey across the Alps Duke Emanuel Philibert orders the
cloth to be brought from Chambery.
http://www.shroud.com/history.htm
Online dictionary of France travel and tourism: Cahors,Canal du
midi,Cannes,Carcassonne,Chambery,Chambord castle,Chamonix,Champs
Elysees,Chanel,Chantilly castle
This is the online dictionary of France developed by Free Light
Software. By clicking on a French word, you can find France related
sites from French search engines. By clicking on a globe icon, you can
display the locality on maps of France and Paris. By clicking on a
thumbnail picture, you can enlarge it.
Chambery [Map of Chambery] [Picture of Chambery 2] [Picture of
Chambery 3]
French words: Chambéry
keywords: alps, tourist resort, town, wine
related topics: Grenoble , Lyon
related web sites: http://www.mairie-chambery.fr , http://www.chambery-tourisme.com
, http://alain.cerri.free.fr/index7.html
explanation: Located between Geneva and Grenoble in the fore-Alps and
the capital of Savoy prefecture, Chambery began to develop when it had
become the capital of Savoy dukedom in 1295 but declined when its
capital was moved to Turin in 1563. The sovereignty of the Savoy
region was transferred to France by Turin treaty of 1860. Located on
the crossing point of Geneva-Grenoble and Lyon-Turin routes, Chambery
is also an important railroad hub. The surrounding area is cultivating
Savoy wine. The population is 58500.
http://www.docoja.com/dico/fratxtg4.html
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> (quote)
>
>
> Savoy
>
> It has been suggested that Italian Savoia be merged into this article
> or section. (Discuss)
>
> Flag of Savoy
>
>
> This article is about the historical region of Savoy. For other
> uses, see Savoy (disambiguation)
>
> For the two French d�partements of the region of Savoy, see Savoie
> and Haute-Savoie
>
> `````````````````````````
>
> Savoy (French: Savoie, pronounced [savwa]; Franco-Proven�al: Savou�;
> Italian: Savoia, German: Savoyen)
>
> is a region of Europe on the western flank of the Alps that emerged,
> along with the free communes of Switzerland, following the collapse of
> the Frankish Kingdom of Burgundy.
>
> Installed by Rudolph III, King of Burgundy, officially in 1003, the
> House of Savoy became the longest surviving royal house in Europe. It
> ruled the County of Savoy to 1416 and then the Duchy of Savoy from
> 1416 to 1714. The County and Duchy of Savoy incorporated Turin and
> other territories in Piedmont, a region in north western Italy that
> borders Savoy, which were also possessions of the House of Savoy.
>
> The capital of the Duchy remained at the traditional Savoyard capital
> of Chamb�ry until 1563, when it was moved to Turin. In the 18th
> century, the Duchy of Savoy was linked with the Kingdom of Sardinia.
> While the heads of the House of Savoy were known as the Kings of
> Sardinia, Turin remained their capital.
>
> The original territory of Savoy was absorbed into France in 1860, as
> part of the political agreement with Napoleon III that brought about
> the unification of Italy, but the House of Savoy retained its Italian
> lands and its heads became the Kings of Italy.
>
> In modern France, Savoy is part of the Rh�ne-Alpes region. Following
> its annexation to France in 1860, the territory of Savoy was divided
> administratively into two separate d�partements, Savoie and Haute-
> Savoie.
>
> The modern separatist / regionalist movements are discussed in the
> "Annexation and Opposition" section in this article.
>
> The traditional capital remains Chamb�ry (Chiamber�), on the rivers
> Leysse and Albane, hosting the castle of the House of Savoy and the
> Savoyard senate. The state included six districts:
>
> * Savoy proper, sometimes known as Ducal Savoy (capital Chamb�ry)
> * Chablais (capital Thonon-les-Bains)
> * Faucigny (capital Bonneville)
> * Tarentaise (capital Mo�tiers)
> of Savoy an independent duchy, with Am�d�e VIII as the first duke. In
> 1563 Emmanuel Philibert moved capital from Chamb�ry to Turin, which
> was less vulnerable to French interference.
>
> In 1714, as a consequence of the War of the Spanish Succession, Savoy
> was technically subsumed into the Kingdom of Sicily, then (after that
> island was traded to Austria for Sardinia) the Kingdom of Sardinia
> from 1720.
>
> French occupation
>
> Savoy was occupied by French revolutionary forces between 1792 and
> 1815. The region was first added to the d�partement of Mont-Blanc,
> then in 1798 was divided between the d�partements of Mont-Blanc and
> L�man (French name of Lake Geneva.)
>
> On September 13, 1793 the combined forces of Savoy, Piedmont and
> Valdot fought against and lost to the occupying French forces at the
> Battle of M�ribel (Sallanches).
>
> Savoy, along with Piedmont and Nice were restored to the Kingdom of
> Sardinia at the Congress of Vienna in 1814-1815.
>
> Annexation and opposition
>
> The Ch�teau de Chamb�ry, seat of government, was given a grand new
> fa�ade following annexation
>
> Savoy was annexed by France on March 24, 1860 according to the
> provisions of the Treaty of Turin. The treaty was followed on April
> 22/23 by a plebiscite in which voters were offered the option of
> approving the treaty and joining France or rejecting the treaty under
> certain conditions; the disallowed options of either joining
> Switzerland (with which the region had close ties), remaining with
> Italy, or regaining its independence, were the source of some
> opposition. With a 99.8% vote in favour of joining France, there were
> allegations of vote-rigging.
>
> Some opposition to French rule was manifest when, in 1919, France
> officially (but contrary to the annexation treaty) ended the military
> neutrality of the parts of the country of Savoy that had originally
> been agreed at the Congress of Vienna, and also eliminated the free
> trade zone - both treaty articles having been broken unofficially in
> World War I. France was condemned in 1932 by the international court
> for the non compliance with the measures of the treaty of Turin, on
> the countries of Savoy and Nice.
>
> For reasons such as these, there is currently a peaceful separatist
> movement in the d�partements, as well as a faction in favour of
> greater regional powers.
>
> The Mouvement R�gion Savoie (Savoy Regional Movement) was founded in
> December 1971 as a 'movement' (rather than a traditional political
> party) in favour of regional autonomy. In the 1996 local elections the
> Savoie Regional Movement received 19,434 votes.
>
> In the March 1998 regional elections, 1 seat (out of 23) was won by
> Patrice Abeille, leader of the Ligue Savoisienne (Savoie League,
> founded 1994), which had set up a 'provisional Savoie government' two
> years earlier. This group base its actions on the decline of the
> treaty of annexation. The League gathered a total of 17,865 votes
> across the two d�partements. In the same elections a further 4,849
> voted in favour of the Savoie Movement.
>
> As a result of the regional debate sparked by the political advances,
> the non-party organisation, La R�gion Savoie, j�y crois ! (I believe
> in the Savoy Region!), was founded in 1998. The organisation campaigns
> for the replacement of the Savoie and Haute-Savoie d�partements with a
> regional government, separate from the Rh�ne-Alpes region, with
> greater devolved powers. According to surveys conducted in 2000,
> between 41% and 55% of the population are in favour of the proposal.
> 19% to 23% were in favour of separation from France.
>
> In 2004, Waiting for freedom in Savoy [1] was founded to promote the
> peaceful separatist cause to young people.
>
> Towards the end of 2005, Herv� Gaymard called for Savoie to be given
> special status similar to a French region, under his proposed 'Conseil
> des Pays de Savoie'.[5]
>
> Notes
>
> 1. ^ Modern French sapin; sapini�re signifies "fir forest".
> 2. ^ The territory, which has no modern counterpart, was perhaps
> bounded by the rivers Ain and Rh�ne, Lac L�man, the Jura and the Aar,
> though historians differ, and there seems to be insufficient evidence:
> see Norman H. Baynes, reviewing A. Coville, Recherches sur l'Histoire
> de Lyon du Ve au IXe Si�cle (450-800) in The English Historical Review
> 45 No. 179 (July 1930:470-474) p 471.
>
> 3. ^ Sapaudia Burgundionum reliquiis datur cum indigenis dividenda.
> (in T. Mommsen, Chronica Minora II:660, 128.
> 4. ^ The long drawn out collapse of Middle Francia, and the
> disputation of its former territories by more powerful neighbours such
> as France (originally West Francia), is one of the main dynamics of
> Western European history.
> 5. ^ R�gion Savoie.
>
> See also
>
> * House of Savoy
> * List of active autonomist and secessionist movements
>
> External links
>
> * Regional tourist guide
> * Ligue Savoisienne (in English)
> * La R�gion Savoie, j�y crois ! (in French)
Lyra
Lyra wrote:
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> > I'm sending in a little about Savoy,
> >
> > as it links to the Stradling and Grandison families - (Blanche Parry,
> > the Herberts, etc.)
> >
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Research into the early history of the Stradlings disclose how widely
spread were their manors and estates throughout England, Wales and
Ireland.
Ancient records give various spellings of the name but all
can be traced down to the first Stradling in 1258. Earlier ones were
Estratelinge, Esterling and Straddeley.
The earliest trace of them is in Switzerland at a place named
"Strattligen"", near Thun (Canton Berne) or the adjacent department of
France, Haute Savoy, from where Edward I obtained some of his ablest
supporters.
They were kinsmen of that distinguished Savoyard Soldier, Sir Otto de
Grandison
and Sir John Stradling accompanied him to the court of Edward I.
This first representative of the family in England lived in the
village of Wellesbourn Hastings (Nat Grid Ref S.P.2755) close to
Warwick.
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Many distinguished themselves in military services. It is probable
that Sir Peter was at the siege of Acre in 1292, serving under Sir
Otto de Grandison
who commanded the British contingent of the international force.
Sir Thomas was a Muster-master to Queen Elizabeths army.
http://www.stradling.org.uk/docs/O_r_3.htm
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