Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci
Art Neuendorffer
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
<<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives of
Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a prostitute, as
she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the mother
of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00 p.m.
ET.
The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife, that
she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into French
royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including Leonardo
da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy Land,
Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to investigate
what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims. She
interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline in
the 12th century.>>
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
Is this supposed to have anything even remotely to do with
Shakespeare, Art? Or is it merely yet another
aneuendor...@comicass.nut core dump? If the latter, then the
content of core storage seems to have deteriorated of late, improbable
though that conclusion may seem to anyone who read the last core dump.
Art Neuendorffer
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Is this supposed to have anything even remotely to do with
> Shakespeare, Art?
Well, it has to do with your organization, Dave.
Art
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
What organization is that, Art? The American Mathematical Society?
The Ford Sayre Ski Club? The American Birding Association? The Green
Mountain Club? I fail to see any evident connection with ANY of these
organizations.
Art Neuendorffer
> What organization is that, Art? The American Mathematical Society?
> The Ford Sayre Ski Club? The American Birding Association?
> The Green Mountain Club?
No, the other one.
Art
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
Art Neuendorffer
> >
> > > What organization is that, Art?
> > > The American Mathematical Society?
> > > The Ford Sayre Ski Club?
What's up, D.O.C.?
http://www.fordsayre.org/begin.html
<<Ford K. Sayre learned to ski at Dartmouth College as an undergraduage,
and he continued his close association with the College through the
Dartmouth Outing Club. It was on a joint Dartmouth-Smith College trip to
Mt. Moosilauke organized by him, that he met his future wife, Peggy.
Ford Sayre enlisted in the Army Air Corps in August 1942. His
learn-to-ski program continued under Peggy Sayre's supervision, with
frequent advice and encouragement from Ford in his letters home from
his Spokane, Washington base. On July 23, 1944, at age 34, he was
killed in a crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition.>>
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Mt. Moosilauke?
(One might as well try to ski down the west face of Aconcagua!)
A crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition?
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The Three Wise Men (AC) feast day July 23.
http://users.erols.com/saintpat/ss/0723.htm#brid
<<The bodies of the magi are in the Cologne Cathedral where they
are venerated as saints and called the "Three Kings of Cologne."
They became the patron saints of TRAVELERS.>>
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<<On 23 July 1567, while practicing fencing with Edward Baynam,
a TAILOR, in the backyard of Cecil's house in the Strand, the
seventeen-year-old Oxford killed an unarmed undercook named
THOMAS BRINCKNELL with a thrust to the thigh.>>
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<<On 23 July 1567, at Lochleven, Mary Queen of Scots was forced
to sign an act of withdrawal in favor of her one-year-old son,
who was crowned as James VI five days afterward at Scone.>>
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<<On 23 July 1509, SIR HENRY WYATT made a knight of the Bath.>>
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Not without MUSTARD
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<<SIR HENRY WYATT (1460-1537), the father of the poet, resisted
the pretensions of Richard III to the throne, and was in consequence
arrested and imprisoned in the Tower for two years. According to his
son's statement he was racked in Richard's presence and vinegar and
MUSTARD were forced down his throat. There is an old tradition in the
family that while in the Tower a cat brought him a pigeon every day from
a neighbouring dovecot and thus saved him from starvation. The Earl of
Romney, who is directly descended in the female line from the Wyatts,
possesses a curious half-length portrait of Sir Henry seated in a prison
cell with a cat drawing towards him a pigeon through the grating of a
window. Lord Romney also possesses a second picture of 'The cat that
fed Sir Henry Wyatt,' besides a small bust portrait of Sir Henry. The
pictures, illustrating the tradition of the cat (now at Lord Romney's
house, 4 upper Belgrave Street;, London), represent Sir Henry Wyatt
in advanced years, and were obviously painted on hearsay evidence
very long after the date of the alleged events they claim to depict.>>
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> > The American Birding Association? The Green Mountain Club?
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > No, the other one.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
BEYOND CAUTIOUS
AUDUBON SOCIETY
BAYOU SEDUCTION
------------------------------------------------------------
Just watch, Dave, and maybe you can figure it out:
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > >
> > > > What organization is that, Art?
> > > > The American Mathematical Society?
> > > > The Ford Sayre Ski Club?
> What's up, D.O.C.?
>
> http://www.fordsayre.org/begin.html
>
> <<Ford K. Sayre learned to ski at Dartmouth College as an
> undergraduage [sic],
> and he continued his close association with the College through the
> Dartmouth Outing Club. It was on a joint Dartmouth-Smith College trip to
> Mt. Moosilauke organized by him, that he met his future wife, Peggy.
> Ford Sayre enlisted in the Army Air Corps in August 1942. His
> learn-to-ski program continued under Peggy Sayre's supervision, with
> frequent advice and encouragement from Ford in his letters home from
> his Spokane, Washington base. On July 23, 1944, at age 34, he was
> killed in a crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition.>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mt. Moosilauke?
>
> (One might as well try to ski down the west face of Aconcagua!)
Evidently you've neVER been to Mt. Moosilauke, Art. People of all
ages ski up and down the mountain routinely. In fact, races used to be
held there before the construction of the present Dartmouth Skiway, and
Moosilauke is still a favorite winter destination of Dartmouth students
and faculty. See, for example,
<http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/whites/moos4/index.html>,
<http://www.firsttracksonline.com/welcome2.htm>,
<http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/whites/mlkweekend/index.html>
(where you can actually view short videos of people skiing down),
<http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/whites/moos3/index.html>, etc.
But then you wouldn't know a telemarker from a telemarketer, would you,
Art? Of course, if aneuendor...@comicass.nut eVER knew what he
was talking about, he would scarcely be the delightfully comic
aneuendor...@comicass.nut whom we all know and appreciate.
> A crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition?
Yes, Art. See the marvelous film "Fire on the Mountain." Skiing was
hazardous then. It still is, by the way.
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
> > > The American Birding Association? The Green Mountain Club?
> > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
>
> > > No, the other one.
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
>
> BEYOND CAUTIOUS
> AUDUBON SOCIETY
> BAYOU SEDUCTION
INPNC score zero.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Just watch, Dave, and maybe you can figure it out:
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10126.html
> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
>
> <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
> Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives of
> Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a prostitute, as
> she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the mother
> of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00 p.m.
> ET.
>
> The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel
...a work of FICTION -- not that aneuendor...@comicass.nut can
tell the difference...
> that claims
"Claims"?!
> to be based in part
"In part"?!
> on
> historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife, that
> she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into French
> royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including Leonardo
> da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
> In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy Land,
> Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to investigate
> what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
> aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> in the 12th century.>>
Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
Art Neuendorffer
> But then you wouldn't know a telemarker from a telemarketer, would you,
I don't think "telemark" is a good parallel
but they are both on my "do not call" list.
> > A crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition?
>
> Yes, Art. See the marvelous film "Fire on the Mountain."
Didn't Ward Bond Drive a Wagon Train?
http://www.fiftiesweb.com/wt/ward-bond.htm
> Skiing was hazardous then. It still is, by the way.
It's you reckless cross country guys totally out of control!
(They should strip you of you lift pass!)
> > > > The American Birding Association? The Green Mountain Club?
>
> > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> >
> > > > No, the other one.
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
> >
> > BEYOND CAUTIOUS
> > AUDUBON SOCIETY
> > BAYOU SEDUCTION
>
> INPNC score zero.
-------------------------------------------------------
While the modest artist chafes under comparisons to Audubon, [Murrell
Butler's] works are equally exacting in accuracy of detail, and perhaps even
more so in appropriateness of habitat background. His landscapes are lush
with Louisiana's natural richness, the play of moonlight on still bayou
waters, the rays of sunlight streaming through live oak branches hung with
Spanish moss, the mysterious shadows dappling the creek bed as a wild turkey
cautiously crosses. There is no one in the parish who knows its birdlife
better than Murrell Butler, and his guided bird walk through his own
extensive acreage is fascinating at all times of year.
Rose Craven scruple:
http://www.allposters.com/gallery.asp?aid=432999&item=42234
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Just watch, Dave, and maybe you can figure it out:
> >
> > http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10126.html
> > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
> >
> > <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
> > Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives
of
> > Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a
prostitute, as
> > she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the
mother
> > of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00
p.m.
> > ET.
> >
> > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel
>
> ...a work of FICTION -- not that aneuendor...@comicass.nut
> can tell the difference...
WORK = -FICTION x distance
> > that claims
>
> "Claims"?!
Clamn dever.
> > to be based in part
>
> "In part"?!
Not that david....@dartmouth.emu can tell the difference...
> > on
> > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife,
that
> > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
French
> > royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
Leonardo
> > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
>
> Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
No, Dave.
Have you figured out what the organization is going to be refered to?
> > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
Land,
> > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
investigate
> > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
> > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > in the 12th century.>>
>
> Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
http://www.sfae.com/artists/vargas/
Art N.
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > But then you wouldn't know a telemarker from a telemarketer, would you,
> I don't think "telemark" is a good parallel
> but they are both on my "do not call" list.
This exhibits your customary stark ignorance, Art -- telemarketers
belong on "do not call" lists, but telemarkers belong on "do not fall"
lists.
> > > A crash during a War Bond Drive exhibition?
> > Yes, Art. See the marvelous film "Fire on the Mountain."
> Didn't Ward Bond Drive a Wagon Train?
> http://www.fiftiesweb.com/wt/ward-bond.htm
I wouldn't know, Art; that's before my time.
> > Skiing was hazardous then. It still is, by the way.
> It's you reckless cross country guys totally out of control!
> (They should strip you of you [sic] lift pass!)
I don't ski lift served areas, Art.
> > > > > The American Birding Association? The Green Mountain Club?
> > > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > > > No, the other one.
> > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > >
> > > > WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
> > > BEYOND CAUTIOUS
> > > AUDUBON SOCIETY
> > > BAYOU SEDUCTION
> > INPNC score zero.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> While the modest artist chafes under comparisons to Audubon, [Murrell
> Butler's] works are equally exacting in accuracy of detail, and perhaps even
> more so in appropriateness of habitat background. His landscapes are lush
> with Louisiana's natural richness, the play of moonlight on still bayou
> waters, the rays of sunlight streaming through live oak branches hung with
> Spanish moss, the mysterious shadows dappling the creek bed as a wild turkey
> cautiously crosses.
The anti-Stratfordian turkeys I encounter in h.l.a.s. are often wild,
but rarely cautious.
[...]
> > > Just watch, Dave,
I can't, Art -- I don't have a television. But you can report on it
to the newsgroup.
> > > and maybe you can figure it out:
> > >
> > > http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10126.html
> > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
> > >
> > > <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
> > > Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives
> of
> > > Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a
> prostitute, as
> > > she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the
> mother
> > > of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00
> p.m.
> > > ET.
> > >
> > > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel
> > ...a work of FICTION -- not that aneuendor...@comicass.nut
> > can tell the difference...
> WORK = -FICTION x distance
Only in circumstances devoid of potential, Art.
> > > that claims
> > "Claims"?!
> Clamn dever.
> > > to be based in part
> > "In part"?!
[...]
> > > on
> > > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife,
> that
> > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> > > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
> French
> > > royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> > > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> Leonardo
> > > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> > Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
> No, Dave.
What's the matter with you, Art?! Don't say I haven't given you
abundant clues.
> Have you figured out what the organization is going to be refered to?
If it's what I suspect it may be, then even Mr. Paraleresis is aware
that it's a hoax.
> > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
> Land,
> > > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> investigate
> > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
> > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > > in the 12th century.>>
> > Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
> http://www.sfae.com/artists/vargas/
Wrong Vargas, Art -- but then one is of course aware that
aneuendor...@comicass.nut believes there to be ONLY one Peter Gay
on the entire planet, as well as ONLY one Anne Hathaway.
Art Neuendorffer
>
> > > > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > > >
> > > > > > No, the other one.
>
> > > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > > >
> > > > > WHAT "other one," Art? The Audubon Society?
>
> > > > BEYOND CAUTIOUS
> > > > AUDUBON SOCIETY
> > > > BAYOU SEDUCTION
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > > INPNC score zero.
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > While the modest artist chafes under comparisons to Audubon, [Murrell
> > Butler's] works are equally exacting in accuracy of detail, and perhaps
even
> > more so in appropriateness of habitat background. His landscapes are
lush
> > with Louisiana's natural richness, the play of moonlight on still bayou
> > waters, the rays of sunlight streaming through live oak branches hung
with
> > Spanish moss, the mysterious shadows dappling the creek bed as a wild
turkey
> > cautiously crosses.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> The anti-Stratfordian turkeys I encounter in h.l.a.s. are often wild,
> but rarely cautious.
Stratfordian turkeys are BEYOND CAUTIOUS.
> > > > Just watch, Dave,
>
> I can't, Art -- I don't have a television.
Never had a television?
> > > > and maybe you can figure it out:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10126.html
> > > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
> > > >
> > > > <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci,"
Elizabeth
> > > > Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the
lives
> > of
> > > > Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a
> > prostitute, as
> > > > she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even
the
> > mother
> > > > of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00
> > p.m.
> > > > ET.
> > > >
> > > > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > > ...a work of FICTION -- not that aneuendor...@comicass.nut
> > > can tell the difference...
>
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > WORK = -FICTION x distance
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Only in circumstances devoid of potential, Art.
Like cross country skiing, Dave?
> > > > that claims to be based in part on
> > > > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus'
wife,
> > that
> > > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child,
and
> > > > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married
into
> > French
> > > > royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated
by a
> > > > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> > Leonardo
> > > > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > > Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
>
> > No, Dave.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> What's the matter with you, Art?! Don't say I haven't given you
> abundant clues.
Like you did with Lisbon?
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
>
> > Have you figured out what the organization is going to be refered
to?
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> If it's what I suspect it may be, then even Mr. Paraleresis is aware
> that it's a hoax.
Is Roger the current Nautonnier?
> > > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the
Holy
> > Land,
> > > > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> > investigate
> > > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
Scottish
> > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus'
bloodline
> > > > in the 12th century.>>
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > > Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
>
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
>
> > http://www.sfae.com/artists/vargas/
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Wrong Vargas, Art
Each to his own, Dave.
Art N
David L. Webb
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
> > > > > http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10126.html
> > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/World/Primetime/davinci031103-1.html
> > > > >
> > > > > <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci,"
> Elizabeth
> > > > > Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the
> lives
> > > of
> > > > > Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a
> > > prostitute, as
> > > > > she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even
> the
> > > mother
> > > > > of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00
> > > p.m.
> > > > > ET.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel
> > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > > > ...a work of FICTION -- not that aneuendor...@comicass.nut
> > > > can tell the difference...
> > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
>
> > > WORK = -FICTION x distance
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > Only in circumstances devoid of potential, Art.
> Like cross country skiing, Dave?
Gravitational potential plays a HUGE role in Nordic skiing, Art --
but perhaps this fact is news to you. Perhaps you, like Altschuler,
attribute the force that keeps you on earth (to the limited extent that
that can be said to be true in your case) to the Earth's magnetic field.
> > > > > that claims to be based in part on
> > > > > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus'
> wife,
> > > that
> > > > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child,
> and
> > > > > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married
> into
> > > French
> > > > > royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated
> by a
> > > > > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> > > Leonardo
> > > > > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > > > Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
> > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> >
> > > No, Dave.
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > What's the matter with you, Art?! Don't say I haven't given you
> > abundant clues.
> Like you did with Lisbon?
Absolutely.
> > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> >
> > > Have you figured out what the organization is going to be refered
> to?
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > If it's what I suspect it may be, then even Mr. Paraleresis is aware
> > that it's a hoax.
> Is Roger the current Nautonnier?
Of COURSE not, Art! While belonging to the Bloodline is the most
important requisite, functional literacy is also necessary.
> > > > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the
> Holy
> > > Land,
> > > > > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> > > investigate
> > > > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> > > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> Scottish
> > > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus'
> bloodline
> > > > > in the 12th century.>>
> > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > > > Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
> > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> >
> > > http://www.sfae.com/artists/vargas/
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > Wrong Vargas, Art
> Each to his own, Dave.
Because "Alberto Vargas" is an anagram of "Art as a Ver blog," Art?
Or perhaps you prefer "'...a gob!' Art slaVERs."
Phil Innes
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> <<On 23 July 1509, SIR HENRY WYATT made a knight of the Bath.>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps he was particularly dirty that day?
~~~~~~
> <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
> Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives of
> Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a prostitute,
as
> she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the
mother
> of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00 p.m.
> ET.
Art, you are barking up the wrong institution - if you want Gnosticism,
Elaine Pagels is at Princeton. Her first title speaks of the Gospel of the
Magdalene, her current one compares especially Thomas Didymas' (twin of
whom?) with John's Gospel.
> The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
> historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife, that
> she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
French
> royalty.
Either the blurb writer or the author missed Joe of Aramathea. Otherwise all
this is folk-lore.
> This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
Leonardo
> da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
>
> In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
Land,
> Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
investigate
> what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
Any good gematria in it?
> She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
> aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> in the 12th century.>>
I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
Cordially, Phil
>
>
Art Neuendorffer
>
> > > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > > > ...a work of FICTION -- not that
> > > > > aneuendor...@comicass.nut can tell the difference...
> > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> >
> > > > WORK = -FICTION x distance
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > Only in circumstances devoid of potential, Art.
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > Like cross country skiing, Dave?
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Gravitational potential plays a HUGE role in Nordic skiing, Art --
HUGE ROLL in Nordic skiing:
http://www.noveltp.com/gallery/images/outhouse_snow.jpg
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> but perhaps this fact is news to you. Perhaps you, like Altschuler,
> attribute the force that keeps you on earth (to the limited extent that
> that can be said to be true in your case) to the Earth's magnetic field.
Yes, in addition to my magnetic personality!
> > > > > > that claims to be based in part on historical fact,
> > > > > > contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife, that
> > > > > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their
child,
> > > > > > and turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants
> > > > > > ultimately married into French
> > > > > > royalty. This story, it is said, was long protected and
perpetuated
> > > > > > by a secret society of some of the most famous men in history,
> > > > > > including Leonardo da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
>
> > > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > > > Have you figured out who the current Nautonnier is, Art?
>
> > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > > No, Dave.
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > What's the matter with you, Art?! Don't say I haven't given you
> > > abundant clues.
>
> > Like you did with Lisbon?
>
> Absolutely.
Well, it's hopeless then.
> > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > > Have you figured out what the organization is going to be refered
to?
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > If it's what I suspect it may be, then even Mr. Paraleresis is
aware
> > > that it's a hoax.
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > Is Roger the current Nautonnier?
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Of COURSE not, Art! While belonging to the Bloodline is the most
> important requisite, functional literacy is also necessary.
That didn't seem to prevent Tom Reedy from getting promoted.
> > > > > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the
> > > >> > Holy Land, Italy, Scotland, France
> > > > > > and other locations around the world to investigate
> > > > > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary
claims.
> > > > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> > > > > > Scottish aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into
Jesus'
> > > > > > bloodline in the 12th century.>>
>
> > > > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > > > Sounds a bit like Lord Burford.
>
> > > "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > > http://www.sfae.com/artists/vargas/
>
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> >
> > > Wrong Vargas, Art
>
> "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > Each to his own, Dave.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> Because "Alberto Vargas" is an anagram of "Art as a Ver blog," Art?
Art Neuendorffer
David L. Webb
"Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote:
[...]
> > <<In an hour-long ABCNEWS special, "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci," Elizabeth
> > Vargas explores these and other controversial theories about the lives of
> > Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who some scholars believe was not a prostitute,
> as
> > she is often portrayed, but rather Jesus' wife - and perhaps even the
> mother
> > of his child. "Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci" airs Monday, Nov. 3 at 8:00 p.m.
> > ET.
> Art, you are barking up the wrong institution
Yes, Art would be best served by another sort of institution
altogether.
> - if you want Gnosticism,
> Elaine Pagels is at Princeton. Her first title speaks of the Gospel of the
> Magdalene, her current one compares especially Thomas Didymas' (twin of
> whom?) with John's Gospel.
Art is confusing gnosis with psychosis.
> > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
> > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife, that
> > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
> French
> > royalty.
> Either the blurb writer or the author missed Joe of Aramathea. Otherwise all
> this is folk-lore.
"Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
> > This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> Leonardo
> > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> >
> > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
> Land,
> > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> investigate
> > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> Any good gematria in it?
> > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a Scottish
> > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > in the 12th century.>>
> I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
LOL!
[...]
Phil Innes
> > Art, you are barking up the wrong institution
>
> Yes, Art would be best served by another sort of institution
> altogether.
O David. He loves words.
This is a great qualification. But then, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
> > - if you want Gnosticism,
> > Elaine Pagels is at Princeton. Her first title speaks of the Gospel of
the
> > Magdalene, her current one compares especially Thomas Didymas' (twin of
> > whom?) with John's Gospel.
>
> Art is confusing gnosis with psychosis.
Okay Okay some badinage...
Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
We are inclined to accept feeling over calculation,
but are magnanimous to others to the degree that it is said,
though not often enough,
'there is good, even in a Saxon.'
If you would study questions of identity some 1500 years before the
Elizabethan period you may encounter specifically odd things, yet altogether
the same phenomena of /type/ of argument.
> > > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
> > > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife,
that
> > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> > > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
> > French
> > > royalty.
>
> > Either the blurb writer or the author missed Joe of Aramathea. Otherwise
all
> > this is folk-lore.
>
> "Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
Why so? I would say from my experience 'on the contrary.' Do you not know
about these things?
> > > This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> > > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> > Leonardo
> > > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> > >
> > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
> > Land,
> > > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> > investigate
> > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
>
> > Any good gematria in it?
A harder word? Maybe Art won't like it because its basis is another form of
substitution, a canonical one, or should I say 'eonic'?
> > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
Scottish
> > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > > in the 12th century.>>
>
> > I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
>
> LOL!
My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
Cordially, Phil
> [...]
Art Neuendorffer
>>>> The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
>>>> historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife,
>>>> that she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their
child,
>>>> and turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants
>>>> ultimately married into French royalty.
> > "Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote
> > > Either the blurb writer or the author missed Joe of Aramathea.
> > > Otherwise all this is folk-lore.
> Dave Webb wrote:
> > "Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
"Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote
> Why so? I would say from my experience 'on the contrary.'
> Do you not know about these things?
NO! Webb doesn't know squat.
-------------------------------------------------------
Joe of Aramathea without an OAR
-------------------------------------------------------
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/pdf/i000111b.pdf
Further information can be found in the Ecclesiastical Annals of the
sixteenth century Vatican librarian, CARDINAL CAESAR BARONIUS (1538-
1609 A.D.). Baronius, an historian of great integrity who was known for his
uncompromising treatment of the truth, discovered a document of great
antiquity in the Vatican archives. To his fascination, the manuscript
revealed that in THE YEAR 35 A.D. Joseph of Arimathea and a group of
companions that included Lazarus, Mary Magdalene, Martha and a number
of others, WERE CAST ADRIFT IN A BOAT from the coast
of Palestine by PERSECUTING JEWS:
"In that year the party mentioned was exposed to the sea
in A VESSEL WITHOUT SAILS OR OARS.
The vessel drifted finally TO MARSEILLES and they were saved.
Cardinal [Baronius'] Annals quote the Acts of Magdalen, for the record
of the voyage to Marseilles and the spreading of the gospel in the south
part of Gaul:
In chapter 37 of the Acts, after listing the names
of Joseph's companions in the OARLESS BOAT,
Rabanus Maurus goes on to describe their dangerous voyage:
"Leaving the shores of Asia and favoured by an east wind,
they went round about, down the Tyrrhenian Sea, between Europe
and Africa, leaving the city of Rome and all the land of Italy to the right.
Then happily turning their course to the right, they came near to the
city of Marseilles, in the Viennoise province of the Gauls, where the
RIVER RHONE is received by the sea.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Gladys Taylor, in her book Our Neglected Heritage,
takes note of the same incident:
Caesar Baronius, the church historian who was also appointed librarian
of the Vatican in 1596, wrote in his magnum opus, Annales Ecclesiastici,
of the finding in the Vatican Library of a most ancient manuscript in
which was described the voyage of a company of our Lord's friends,
travelling in an OLD BOAT which had been abandoned by its master and
was WITHOUT OARS OR SAILS,
who LANDED AT MARSEILLES, whence they spread out over
SOUTHERN FRANCE where many churches record them as their founders.
Among this company is JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA, who is not mentioned
as founder of any of these churches, a fact which suggests that he may
have journeyed on & could not have spent much time in southern France.
Baronius dates the arrival of this boat to A.D. 35.
-- Covenant Books, London. 1969. P.15.
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With an OAR:
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"[OAR]MAR. MAGDALENE"
"[ORA]NGE MARMALADE"
Pig on an Accordion: Oxford's _Hamlet_
one of the Jars of Orange-marmalade: Rosicrucians/Rosencrantz
the other Jar of Orange-marmalade: Freemasons/Guildensterne
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"The Pig-Tale" _Sylvie and Bruno Concluded_
"Once there were a Pig, and a Accordion, and two jars of
Orange-marmalade--"
"The dramatis personae," murmured the Professor. "Well, what then?"
"So, when the Pig played on the Accordion," Bruno went on, "one of
the Jars of Orange-marmalade didn't like the tune, and the other Jar
of Orange-marmalade did like the tune--I know I shall get confused
among those Jars of Orange-marmalade, Sylvie!" he whispered anxiously.
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BLACK MADONNA
http://www.goddessmyths.com/Amaterasu-Epona.html
The image of the Black Madonna, who is said to
have miraculous powers, can be traced back
through the ages to Africa, Asia and the Middle
East in the form of Isis, Tara, Sara-Kali and other
dark Goddesses. They represented the fertile Earth
as well as the great void. As Sara-Kali, she is
worshipped by the gypsies and is said to have
accompanied Mary Magdalen, two elderly Marys,
Martha and Lazarus on a boat without oars or sails
that landed at Les-Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer,
France in 43 CE. The icon of Czestochowa
(Poland) was brought from Jerusalem in 1384;
it was slashed in the cheek by marauders in 1430
and is said to have bled.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Lewis Carroll's "Golden Afternoon": July 4, 1862 N.S.
ALL in the GOLDEN AFTERNOON
Full leisurely we glide;
For both our OARS, with little skill, . . .
By little arms are plied,
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Edward de Vere died June 24, 1604 (July 4, 1604 N.S.)
the Festival Day of St. John the Baptist
Patron Saint of FREEMASONS, PRINTERS & OARS.
Droeshout's Shakespeare & neck ruff = the Baptist's head on a platter
-------------------------------------------------------------------
"[O]RANG[E] M[A R]MA[L]ADE"
"ANAGRAMMED [E] [A] [R] [L] [O]"
d l h o [X]
i i o r [F]
t c d i [O]
h e a n [R]
a [D]
[E]dith, [A]lice, [R]hoda & [L]orina
--------------------------------------------------------------
Lewis Carroll, The Annotated Alice
Introduction and Notes by Martin Gardner
<<1. In these prefatory verses Carroll recalls that "golden afternoon"
in 1862 when he and his friend the Reverend Robinson Duckworth (then
a fellow of Trinity College, Oxford, later canon of Westminster) took
the three charming Liddell sisters on a rowing expedition up the Thames.
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"Yes, a little--but not on land--and not with needles---" Alice was
beginning to say when suddenly the needles turned into OARS in
her hands, and she found they were in a little boat, gliding along
between banks: so there was nothing for it but to do her best.
There was something VERY QUEER about the water, she thought,
as EVERy now and then the OARS got fast in it,
and would hardly come out again.
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[CAESAR NEVER DID WR-ong]
[EDWARD VERE CAIRN S-ong]
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Odyssey - Homer (tr. Samuel Butler) ** ( BOOK XII )
<<Then, when the child of morning, rosy-fingered Dawn, appeared, I sent
some men to Circe's house to fetch the body of ELPENOR. We cut firewood
from a wood where the HEADLAND jutted out into the sea, and after we had
wept over him and lamented him we performed his funeral rites. When
his body and armour had been burned to ashes, we raised a CAIRN,
set a stone over it, and at the top of the CAIRN
we fixed the OAR that he had been used to row with.>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------
<<The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way,
and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that
Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before
she found herself falling down a very deep well.
Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she
had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to
wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look
down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark
to see anything; then she looked at the sides of the well, and
noticed that they were filled with cupboards and book-shelves;
here and there she saw maps and pictures hung upon pegs. She took
down a jar from one of the shelves as she passed; it was labelled
'ORANGE MARMALADE',
but to her great disappointment it was empty:
she did not like to drop the jar for fear of killing somebody, so
managed to put it into one of the cupboards as she fell past it.
'Well!' thought Alice to herself, 'after such a fall as this, I
shall think nothing of tumbling down stairs! How brave they'll
all think me at home! Why, I wouldn't say anything about it, even
if I fell off the top of the house!' (Which was very likely true.)
Down, down, down. Would the fall never come to an end!
'I wonder how many miles I've fallen by this time?' she said aloud.
'I must be getting somewhere near the CENTRE OF THE EARTH.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
Spam Scone
> > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> Scottish
> > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > > > in the 12th century.>>
>
> > > I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
> >
> > LOL!
>
> My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
Dr. Webb has had the "pleasure" of visiting Sam Sloan's website. Sloan
claims the daughter of Oxford wrote Shakespeare. He also calls the
engraving from the First Folio a "painting".
Phil Innes
> > >
> > > LOL!
> >
> > My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
>
> Dr. Webb has had the "pleasure" of visiting Sam Sloan's website. Sloan
> claims the daughter of Oxford wrote Shakespeare. He also calls the
> engraving from the First Folio a "painting".
Aha! Thanks, I thought the laugh at the name must have been coincidental.
I'm surprised he passed up The irrisitible Stone of Sloan, with all its
associations.Perhaps I'll suggest it?
Other anglo-associations are not promising:-
Slon : sly (Cumbria)
Slone : The sloe (West)
Slone : To slay (A.S.)
I hade catelle; now have I non !
Thay take my bestis and don tham slone
Sloon : Slain, killed (A.S.)
I may need help convincing him of this, an Einleitung, a fan-traceried
vaulting [Hardy] perhaps of rare and suggestive Persian and Gaelic terms
very well provenanced, linking chess, the Stone... and a ring from the
diwan? Invoking the expulsion of the Jews from Spain, their subsequent
resettlement in Gala-Shields bringing with them almost all the esoteric
knowledge of the arab world, very special artifacts from the Holy Land...
and just in time to intersect with the Bard's daughter, and pull the wool
over that bone-head's noggin, Jonson.
Dang! I forgot DaVinci.
Eat this message. Phil
David L. Webb
"Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote:
> > > Art, you are barking up the wrong institution
> >
> > Yes, Art would be best served by another sort of institution
> > altogether.
> O David. He loves words.
> This is a great qualification. But then, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
So am I. But Saxons also have their virtue. Indeed, Art will tell
you that "Saxons" is an anagram of "Sans Ox."
> > > - if you want Gnosticism,
> > > Elaine Pagels is at Princeton. Her first title speaks of the Gospel of
> the
> > > Magdalene, her current one compares especially Thomas Didymas' (twin of
> > > whom?) with John's Gospel.
> > Art is confusing gnosis with psychosis.
> Okay Okay some badinage...
I suspect that Art was just as bad in his youth.
> Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
To the extent that such labels make sense, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
> We are inclined to accept feeling over calculation,
> but are magnanimous to others to the degree that it is said,
> though not often enough,
> 'there is good, even in a Saxon.'
>
> If you would study questions of identity some 1500 years before the
> Elizabethan period you may encounter specifically odd things, yet altogether
> the same phenomena of /type/ of argument.
> > > > The Da Vinci Code, a mystery novel that claims to be based in part on
> > > > historical fact, contains claims that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife,
> that
> > > > she fled Jerusalem following his crucifixion carrying their child, and
> > > > turned up in France, where Jesus' descendants ultimately married into
> > > French
> > > > royalty.
> >
> > > Either the blurb writer or the author missed Joe of Aramathea. Otherwise
> all
> > > this is folk-lore.
> > "Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
> Why so? I would say from my experience 'on the contrary.' Do you not know
> about these things?
You have experience of the Priory of Sion and the supposed Sacred
Bloodline?
> > > > This story, it is said, was long protected and perpetuated by a
> > > > secret society of some of the most famous men in history, including
> > > Leonardo
> > > > da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton.
> > > >
> > > > In an effort to separate fact from legend, Vargas travels to the Holy
> > > Land,
> > > > Italy, Scotland, France and other locations around the world to
> > > investigate
> > > > what evidence exists to support some of these extraordinary claims.
> > > Any good gematria in it?
> A harder word? Maybe Art won't like it because its basis is another form of
> substitution, a canonical one, or should I say 'eonic'?
>
> > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> Scottish
> > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus' bloodline
> > > > in the 12th century.>>
> > > I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
> > LOL!
> My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
Neil Brennen has mentioned Mr. Sloan's web page and a few of his
eccentricities.
Phil Innes
> > This is a great qualification. But then, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
>
> So am I. But Saxons also have their virtue. Indeed, Art will tell
> you that "Saxons" is an anagram of "Sans Ox."
This is as nothing, consider the only anagram possible from POSTMAN and
where are you?
~~~~~~
> > Okay Okay some badinage...
>
> I suspect that Art was just as bad in his youth.
poetically I suggest "badder"
> > Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
>
> To the extent that such labels make sense, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
Not an infiltrator? A fifth column? A Liberal?
<snips>
> > > "Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
>
> > Why so? I would say from my experience 'on the contrary.' Do you not
know
> > about these things?
>
> You have experience of the Priory of Sion and the supposed Sacred
> Bloodline?
Laugh.
I referred some people about a year ago to a series of titles and they
quoted me back what was written as review at Amazon.
Three months ago I was searching for a particular trans of Dostoyevski's
undergroun, and found the remarkable statement there:- " Anybody wants to
get himself publishes shouldn't choose such a rediculous (sic) name."
To be serious a moment:- There are long standing folk-stories of
particularly JosephofA, cited by Trevelyan (but where) and Rowse, but more
so, they live in the folk memory and oral tradition of these places. All
Wessex, and in this case all the way to the North of Scotland.
I am not entering an argument matter-of-fact, but am stating from knowledge
the existence of such common-lore.
~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> > Scottish
> > > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus'
bloodline
> > > > > in the 12th century.>>
>
> > > > I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
>
> > > LOL!
>
> > My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
>
> Neil Brennen has mentioned Mr. Sloan's web page and a few of his
> eccentricities.
Well, if the boy-childe Lance doesn't give it away, <shut up Lance, or I'll
ask Lynne to tell you to shut up> I am planning a certain ruse, once these
faint trails expire on the ethers.
Cordially, Phil
David L. Webb
"Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote:
> > > O David. He loves words.
> > > This is a great qualification. But then, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
> > So am I. But Saxons also have their virtue. Indeed, Art will tell
> > you that "Saxons" is an anagram of "Sans Ox."
> This is as nothing, consider the only anagram possible from POSTMAN and
> where are you?
The ONLY anagram possible from postman? Of course there is "No
stamp," but another pertinent one is "Not spam," one of the advantages
of real mail over e-mail.
> > > Okay Okay some badinage...
> > I suspect that Art was just as bad in his youth.
> poetically I suggest "badder"
Oxfordians prefer bladder.
> > > Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
> > To the extent that such labels make sense, I am a Celt, not a Saxon.
>
> Not an infiltrator?
You have a better claim as "an Phil traitor" than I.
> A fifth column? A Liberal?
> <snips>
> > > > "Folk-lore" is putting it charitably.
> > > Why so? I would say from my experience 'on the contrary.' Do you not
> know
> > > about these things?
> > You have experience of the Priory of Sion and the supposed Sacred
> > Bloodline?
> Laugh.
>
> I referred some people about a year ago to a series of titles and they
> quoted me back what was written as review at Amazon.
>
> Three months ago I was searching for a particular trans of Dostoyevski's
> undergroun, and found the remarkable statement there:- " Anybody wants to
> get himself publishes shouldn't choose such a rediculous (sic) name."
>
> To be serious a moment:- There are long standing folk-stories of
> particularly JosephofA, cited by Trevelyan (but where) and Rowse, but more
> so, they live in the folk memory and oral tradition of these places. All
> Wessex, and in this case all the way to the North of Scotland.
>
> I am not entering an argument matter-of-fact, but am stating from knowledge
> the existence of such common-lore.
Yes, but the Baigent/Leigh/Lincoln book goes well beyond the Joseph
tradition to the sort of crankery beloved by Art. Et in Arcadia ego!
> ~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > > > > > She interviews religion and art history scholars, as well as a
> > > Scottish
> > > > > > aristocrat who says he thinks his family married into Jesus'
> bloodline
> > > > > > in the 12th century.>>
> > > > > I don't suppose he was called MacSloan? (sorry, chess joke)
> > > > LOL!
> > > My Gosh! Is he so famous, even in cette île noud?
> > Neil Brennen has mentioned Mr. Sloan's web page and a few of his
> > eccentricities.
> Well, if the boy-childe Lance doesn't give it away, <shut up Lance, or I'll
> ask Lynne to tell you to shut up> I am planning a certain ruse, once these
> faint trails expire on the ethers.
There is nothing faint about trolls like Art.
>
Phil Innes
> > This is as nothing, consider the only anagram possible from POSTMAN and
> > where are you?
>
> The ONLY anagram possible from postman? Of course there is "No
> stamp," but another pertinent one is "Not spam," one of the advantages
> of real mail over e-mail.
Cheat: One word anagram from one word source - quick! Art will win or
better, une femme
> > > > Okay Okay some badinage...
>
> > > I suspect that Art was just as bad in his youth.
>
> > poetically I suggest "badder"
>
> Oxfordians prefer bladder.
pisht as we say in Glasgie
> > > > Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
>
> > > To the extent that such labels make sense, I am a Celt, not a
Saxon.
> >
> > Not an infiltrator?
>
> You have a better claim as "an Phil traitor" than I.
not bad! heya! careful, jeolosie...
> > A fifth column? A Liberal?
> > <snips>
i note the pass, comrade.
~~~~~~~
> > To be serious a moment:- There are long standing folk-stories of
> > particularly JosephofA, cited by Trevelyan (but where) and Rowse, but
more
> > so, they live in the folk memory and oral tradition of these places. All
> > Wessex, and in this case all the way to the North of Scotland.
> >
> > I am not entering an argument matter-of-fact, but am stating from
knowledge
> > the existence of such common-lore.
>
> Yes, but the Baigent/Leigh/Lincoln book goes well beyond the Joseph
> tradition to the sort of crankery beloved by Art. Et in Arcadia ego!
Pousenc, change a vendres, peutetre, mais en aime d'arte, largo moi
if we both prosecute art his underestimate we will certainly feel superior
[if this is in fact true]
yet fail the main point
evidentially
here is the divorce of word and experience
~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Well, if the boy-childe Lance doesn't give it away, <shut up Lance, or
I'll
> > ask Lynne to tell you to shut up> I am planning a certain ruse, once
these
> > faint trails expire on the ethers.
>
> There is nothing faint about trolls like Art.
you admit then,
failing to charm
this donsel?
black-almain ;) [Shak] Phil
David L. Webb
"Phil Innes" <aong...@sover.net> wrote:
> > > This is as nothing, consider the only anagram possible from POSTMAN and
> > > where are you?
> > The ONLY anagram possible from postman? Of course there is "No
> > stamp," but another pertinent one is "Not spam," one of the advantages
> > of real mail over e-mail.
> Cheat: One word anagram from one word source
By no means -- many anagram cognoscenti regard an anagram as
inelegant unless the anagrammed text be pertinent to the original text;
in that regard, both "No stamp" and "Not spam" enjoy an evident
superiority over "tampons."
> - quick! Art will win
Unlikely. Art thinks that "I kill Edwasd de Vese" is a sensible
anagram!
> or
> better, une femme
> > > > > Okay Okay some badinage...
> > > > I suspect that Art was just as bad in his youth.
> > > poetically I suggest "badder"
> > Oxfordians prefer bladder.
> pisht as we say in Glasgie
If you're posting from sovernet, you're probably closer to Glasgow,
Kentucky than to Vermont St., Glasgow.
> > > > > Perhaps we Celts are more generous than you Saxons?
> > > > To the extent that such labels make sense, I am a Celt, not a
> Saxon.
> > > Not an infiltrator?
> > You have a better claim as "an Phil traitor" than I.
> not bad! heya! careful, jeolosie...
>
> > > A fifth column? A Liberal?
> > > <snips>
> i note the pass, comrade.
When the obtrusive ask my religion (generally to ascertain whether I
am saved), I tell them I'm an Equestrian. (One perplexed evangelical
fundamentalist replied that although my denomination's services were
more formal than his and that I might be led into Biblical error
thereby, nevertheless we worshiped the same G-d). Since the completely
clueless Elizabeth Weird has already mistaken my "Marxist" refusal to
speak at a conference that would let an ignoramus like me speak as a
reference to Karl Marx rather than to Groucho, an obvious allusion in
context, I am as reticent to argue about politics as I would be to argue
about religion.
[...]
Phil Innes
[Postman]
> Unlikely. Art thinks that "I kill Edwasd de Vese" is a sensible
> anagram!
>
> > or
> > better, une femme
such clues are as hygiene - no Elizabethan word
~~~~
> If you're posting from sovernet, you're probably closer to Glasgow,
> Kentucky than to Vermont St., Glasgow.
an interversion, like might son-of-Jim, wassisname? ah, Amis-the-younger;
heard him on the beeb world service, plumy, clever, basically unlikeable
superior young rich twit, except to clive james - and there is a lesson for
us all! mind not the teller, mind the tale. clive says we don't like him
because he writes better. i admit the psychological truth of this
resentfully, and only wait 'til he writes better about something better
~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > A fifth column? A Liberal?
> > > > <snips>
>
> > i note the pass, comrade.
>
> When the obtrusive ask my religion (generally to ascertain whether I
> am saved), I tell them I'm an Equestrian.
I myself say I am a non-Johannine Christian.
> (One perplexed evangelical
> fundamentalist replied that although my denomination's services were
> more formal than his and that I might be led into Biblical error
> thereby, nevertheless we worshiped the same G-d).
Perhaps we should trade excuses? After all, my name loves horses, whereas
yours...
> Since the completely
> clueless Elizabeth Weird
a simper-de-cockett you say?
now now now
i could never prejudge such a person based on her-say
[hernaysay; a hebridean island where woman are compelled to be silent?
waiting list for men applicants, 27 years]
i am here, as must be obvious even to ...
hunting the famed 'net-chicks'
of shaxperland
and such prejorative and pre*.* agreement
even in the best taste with another bloke
nomatter from a pseud-college
will surely deprecate a person's chances
so far i have only cultivated said wench
(is permissable?)
via her familiars
(is permissable?)
and i must therefore take great issue with your treatment of a lady,
are you a damn cad sir? i can only think so
or an academic? or some nab-nanny?
> has already mistaken my "Marxist" refusal to
> speak at a conference that would let an ignoramus like me speak as a
> reference to Karl Marx rather than to Groucho,
I was reading of Groucho's disapointment when he visited T.S. Eliot in
London; he had hoped for better conversation than the movies.
I write with Russians almost every day. Communists are very welcome to swim
the Neva, though not in Blok's sense.
I have limited Marxist sympathies. Once, when visiting his tomb in Highgate
cemetary some November morning in freezing rain, I encountered a
young-Marxist scrubbing off the graffiti. "Where are the male members of the
committee this morning, Comrade?" I chanced, to which she wittily replied,
"Fuck Off." Anyway, we had a cup of tea together and one thing... but I
ramble on.
> an obvious allusion in
> context, I am as reticent to argue about politics as I would be to argue
> about religion.
Even with women?
Even though they sing to your heart?
Heo schulen i-seon the lavedi
That Jhesu Crist of-kende:
Bi-tweonen hir armes
Sweteliche he wende.
Cordially, Phil
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