invitation
mostafa dia
wonders of existence and awareness.learn about the second and third
attentions that human beings can attain at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Path_Of_Eternity/
http://groups.msn.com/ThePathOfEternity
Thank you for your patience and understanding.Peace be with you.
Lynne
Peace be with you too.
Greg, here's someone off topic for you to chide in your altruistic way.
Lynne
Greg Reynolds
Lynne wrote:
Good grief, you've sorely misinterpreted the entire premise,
probably to minimize or justify your own misunderstandings
of usenet in general and HLAS in particular. My altruism is
a sacrifice--I trade my sociability for discipline in order that we
have a sense of order over chaos. [And I will redeem this
response to your inane chattering by providing, say, two
dozen fun facts about Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.]
"Off topic" does not equal "chatter" and you have no basis
for miscontruing them. We see 'off-topic' all the time, but it
is the selfish insignificant chatting that I altruistically shun.
Mostafa Dia was not chatting, Lynne. One person cannot chat.
It takes two (of you) gadflies to clutter this newsgroup with
chatter, such as commenting on each others' accents... or
praising unrelated activities for the sake of (what? can you
guess?) chatter! As in a chatroom instead of a newsgroup.
Mostafa's post was similar to a meteor landing in the Atlantic.
It was an anomaly, a nonevent, a coincidence that safely landed
nowhere. Let it be, Lynne--don't hunt it down and chat about it.
Don't address me and liken it to your chatter just for cheap talk.
Mostafa's post was akin to a golfball breaking into our window
and landing on the carpet--we don't try to hit it back, Lynne!
Let it be. By being the second person to contribute to an
insignificant thread you are the first to make it chatworthy.
Let it be. Mostafa is not chatting but you are trying to.
(We are/were HLAS and devoted to our subject, not the chatting.)
(Your concern for Elizabeth Weir is silly in that it is the
chit-chat-chatter that has driven off dozens of worthy,
enjoyable interlocutors who were more concerned with our
subject than in using this forum to socialize or flatter or flirt.
I fully believe she found us uninhabitable for her own use as
a writer/thinker/debater. She was never countered, only
decried and dismissed. We are nearly devoid of true argument.
Where-oh-Weir--make me laugh! She's in a better place!)
So I hope you finally understand usenet, chatting, altruism, the
need to refrain from clogging our channel with personal
messaging to/from fellow gadflies.... and now, as promised,
I will redeem my stooping to your chatter by offering just
a couple dozen fascinating facts from a new book,
"Michelangelo & the Pope’s Ceiling"...
+++
If Michelangelo had had his way he never would have
painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. He considered
himself a sculptor, not a painter.
Though Michelangelo had some training as a painter,
when he was commissioned to paint the Sistine Chapel’s
vault he had not worked in fresco for almost 20 years.
Michelangelo was 33 years old when he began frescoing
the Sistine Ceiling. (He was 21 years old when he was
commissioned to sculpt the Pieta and 26 years old when
he began sculpting the David).
Michelangelo complained that he was underpaid for the
Sistine Ceiling. In fact he was paid 30 times as much as a
qualified artisan could expect to earn in a single year.
The art of fresco enjoyed such great esteem precisely
because it was so famously difficult to master. Its myriad
obstacles are reflected in the Italian expression stare
fresco, meaning “to be a in a fix or a mess.” Even
Leonardo da Vinci had difficulty with fresco.
Fresco, meaning “fresh,” comes from the fact that the
painter always worked on fresh (wet) plaster. A painter
had no more than 12 to 24 hours to paint on the wet
plaster before it dried and would no longer absorb
the pigments.
Contrary to legend, Michelangelo did not fresco the
Sistine Ceiling while lying on his back. He designed
the scaffolding himself so that he and his assistants
could stand up on it and bend backwards slightly to
work on the vault.
Adam's left hand in the Creation of Adam is not actually
Michelangelo's own work.
Michelangelo was famous for his poor personal hygiene.
He followed his father's advice: “Never wash yourself,”
and often slept in his clothes and boots. Sometimes he
went so long without taking them off that the skin came
away like a snake's with the boots.
Raphael was famous for his personal charm. Vasari
attributed his sweet, civilized nature to the fact that
he was breast-fed by his mother instead of being sent
to a wet nurse in the country. Even animals were said
to love him instinctively.
Raphael's “Eve in the Temptation in the Garden” in the
Vatican apartments is actually a mirror image, rather
than a direct copy, of Leonardo da Vinci's “Leda,” a c
comnon trick used by artists to disguise an otherwise
familiar image.
When Michelangelo was frescoing the Sistine Ceiling, Rome
was home to some 7,000 prostitutes and 3,000 priests.
Syphilis was rife among the clergy (even Pope Julius II had it).
Julius II was the first pope to lead an army into battle.
He required his cardinals to join the charge, and he
traveled with the choir from the Sistine Chapel.
Julius II was the first Pope to grow a beard. In doing so,
he was going against not only papal tradition but also
canon law.
Julius II created the Swiss Guards as the official papal
escort in 1510, granting them a distinctive costume that
was said to have been designed by Michelangelo.
Michelangelo had to fresco 12,000 square feet of the
Sistine Ceiling. He did not do it alone. He recruited as
many as a dozen men to help him during the four years
he worked in the Sistine Chapel.
Some of the muscles on the nudes in the Sistine Ceiling
are painted in such detail that modern anatomy has yet
to find names for them.
Michelangelo seems to have included his self-portrait
at least three times in the Sistine Ceiling.
For the Sistine Ceiling, Michelangelo would only use
pigments made by a specific order of Florentine monks.
One of Michelangelo's most peculiar problems from
frescoing the Ceiling was a bizarre sort of eyestrain.
Because he was forced to look upwards for hours on
end while painting, he got to the point where he could
only read a letter if he held it at arm's length above
his head. Luckily, this condition eventually passed.
When Michelangelo unveiled the Sistine Ceiling, everyone
seems to have been delighted and amazed except
Pope Julius, who wanted Michelangelo to add touches
of gold and ultramarine—gaudy additions that
Michelangelo flatly refused to paint.
A later pope, Hadrian VI, wanted to take a hammer to
the Sistine Ceiling because he found it obscene. Luckily
he died before he could carry out his plan.
The recent restoration of the Sistine Ceiling took twice
as long as Michelangelo had needed to paint the fresco
in the first place.
There are 17,000 daily visitors to the Sistine Chapel.
+++
Greg Reynolds
(who already had a good education at HLAS, who
read/discussed/enjoyed almost the entire canon
in a public, argumentatively engaging format
and won't mind in the least if gadflies turn this into
their/your own chatroom, Lynne.)
bookburn
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote in message
news:409C736D...@core.com...
From my place by the corner window in the HLAS Tavern, I can't help
wondering at Reynold's outburst of chide. Clay pipes around the
fireplace descend as eyes peer about and dogs hide under tables.
"What's he on about?", I hear someone say. Someone answers, "Thinks
this is the Sistine Chapel and he's Miggelangelo." Young lady in
biker leathers with flaming red hair says, " 'Michel' as in Michelobe,
please. It's not 'Miggle', as in San Miguel."
Then someone materializes in front of the bar and says, "Shakespeare
Stout, please," and, magically, it appears in a hand from behind a
curtain.
I am inspired by the HLAS muse and look at the beamed ceiling to see
if Reynolds has Michelangelo up there. I consider asking for a pint
of the local ale. How does this cornucopia of ambrosia descend among
mere mortals? bb
Neil Brennen
"bookburn" <book...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:109p008...@corp.supernews.com...
Reynolds has great amusement value in the Tavern, like a whoopie cushion
used only for first time visitors. But even long-term HLAS participants can
enjoy such Reynolds rap as:
Richard Kennedy:
> > Reynolds has several times
> > accused me of "hate-mongering,"
Reynolds:
> Citation?
Brennen:
OK. How about this one?
*****
From: Greg Reynolds (eve...@megsinet.net)
Subject: Re: Robbing William
View this article only
Newsgroups: humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare
Date: 1999/09/16
SNIP
"I have just caught you in your hate-mongering."
*****
Kennedy:
Thank you.
Reynolds:
> Dear Heckle Kennedy and Jeckle Brennen,
> My words stand. I back them all. Always.
> Taking my words out of context to confuse
> yourstupidselves is simply your own self-indulged
> exercise, you stooges. Yours is the time wasted,
> not mine. Try refuting my words some time!
Brennen:
The question on the table was if Troll Reynolds had called Richard
Kennedy a hate monger. Troll Reynolds asked for a citation, and one
was provided. Is Troll Reynolds arguing that his use of the term
"hate-monger" shouldn't be counted because of the context?
> "What's he on about?", I hear someone say. Someone answers, "Thinks
> this is the Sistine Chapel and he's Miggelangelo." Young lady in
> biker leathers with flaming red hair says, " 'Michel' as in Michelobe,
> please. It's not 'Miggle', as in San Miguel."
>
> Then someone materializes in front of the bar and says, "Shakespeare
> Stout, please," and, magically, it appears in a hand from behind a
> curtain.
>
> I am inspired by the HLAS muse and look at the beamed ceiling to see
> if Reynolds has Michelangelo up there. I consider asking for a pint
> of the local ale. How does this cornucopia of ambrosia descend among
> mere mortals? bb
Very nice, Bookburn.
LynnE
>
> >dreaming...@yahoo.com (mostafa dia) wrote in message
news:<201ff37a.04050...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> >
> >>In the year 1960,a universal being revealed the mysteries and magical
> >>wonders of existence and awareness.learn about the second and third
> >>attentions that human beings can attain at:
> >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Path_Of_Eternity/
> >>http://groups.msn.com/ThePathOfEternity
> >>Thank you for your patience and understanding.Peace be with you.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Peace be with you too.
> >
> >Greg, here's someone off topic for you to chide in your altruistic way.
> >Lynne
> >
> >
>
>
> Good grief, you've sorely misinterpreted the entire premise,
> probably to minimize or justify your own misunderstandings
> of usenet in general and HLAS in particular. My altruism is
> a sacrifice--I trade my sociability for discipline in order that we
> have a sense of order over chaos. [And I will redeem this
> response to your inane chattering by providing, say, two
> dozen fun facts about Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.]
Thank you. That is kind of you.
>
> "Off topic" does not equal "chatter" and you have no basis
> for miscontruing them. We see 'off-topic' all the time, but it
> is the selfish insignificant chatting that I altruistically shun.
Gotcha. It must be very hard for you then, to continue to be a member of
hlas. There is so much selfish insignificant chatter going on all the time.
>
> Mostafa Dia was not chatting, Lynne. One person cannot chat.
> It takes two (of you) gadflies to clutter this newsgroup with
> chatter, such as commenting on each others' accents... or
> praising unrelated activities for the sake of (what? can you
> guess?) chatter! As in a chatroom instead of a newsgroup.
He was chatting, because I said something in return, thus making it a two
way conversation. Besides, I prefer inane chatting to "I strangled and
****** my dog" which didn't seem to disconcert you in the least.
>
> Mostafa's post was similar to a meteor landing in the Atlantic.
> It was an anomaly, a nonevent, a coincidence that safely landed
> nowhere. Let it be, Lynne--don't hunt it down and chat about it.
> Don't address me and liken it to your chatter just for cheap talk.
Oops, terribly sorry. Will try not to address you in future.
>
> Mostafa's post was akin to a golfball breaking into our window
> and landing on the carpet--we don't try to hit it back, Lynne!
> Let it be. By being the second person to contribute to an
> insignificant thread you are the first to make it chatworthy.
> Let it be. Mostafa is not chatting but you are trying to.
> (We are/were HLAS and devoted to our subject, not the chatting.)
But you are responding on the same thread and therefore making it even more
chatworthy. Even a chide can be chat, can't it?
>
> (Your concern for Elizabeth Weir is silly in that it is the
> chit-chat-chatter that has driven off dozens of worthy,
> enjoyable interlocutors who were more concerned with our
> subject than in using this forum to socialize or flatter or flirt.
> I fully believe she found us uninhabitable for her own use as
> a writer/thinker/debater. She was never countered, only
> decried and dismissed. We are nearly devoid of true argument.
> Where-oh-Weir--make me laugh! She's in a better place!)
I'm really sorry for all the people I may have driven off, Greg. I can quite
see that my chit-chat-chatter is much more appalling to them than your
condemnation and altruistic chiding on behalf of the bard. I can also see
that my chatter was so upsetting that they couldn't even summon the clarity
of thought to begin another thread.
>
> So I hope you finally understand usenet, chatting, altruism, the
> need to refrain from clogging our channel with personal
> messaging to/from fellow gadflies....
I totally understand, Greg. I will scourge myself with a length of spaghetti
(uncooked--ow!) and try to do better in future.
Thank you so much. That was very interesting. A great change from your usual
altruistic chiding.
>
>
> Greg Reynolds
> (who already had a good education at HLAS, who
> read/discussed/enjoyed almost the entire canon
> in a public, argumentatively engaging format
> and won't mind in the least if gadflies turn this into
> their/your own chatroom, Lynne.)
Thanks for this, Greg. So kind of you to stoop to my level. But please
remember, I prefer to be called a Breeze, not a gadfly, a la Michael Would
if he Could.
Best wishes,
:)LynnE
Neil Brennen
"LynnE" <lynnek...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:A35nc.49368$3Q4.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> > Let it be. By being the second person to contribute to an
> > insignificant thread you are the first to make it chatworthy.
> > Let it be. Mostafa is not chatting but you are trying to.
> > (We are/were HLAS and devoted to our subject, not the chatting.)
>
> But you are responding on the same thread and therefore making it even
more
> chatworthy. Even a chide can be chat, can't it?
Lynne, why are you chatting with this gadfly Reynolds? Next thing you know
you will be chatting about American football or Disney cartoons with him -as
Reynolds has done in the past.
> > (Your concern for Elizabeth Weir is silly in that it is the
> > chit-chat-chatter that has driven off dozens of worthy,
> > enjoyable interlocutors who were more concerned with our
> > subject than in using this forum to socialize or flatter or flirt.
> > I fully believe she found us uninhabitable for her own use as
> > a writer/thinker/debater. She was never countered, only
> > decried and dismissed. We are nearly devoid of true argument.
> > Where-oh-Weir--make me laugh! She's in a better place!)
>
> I'm really sorry for all the people I may have driven off, Greg. I can
quite
> see that my chit-chat-chatter is much more appalling to them than your
> condemnation and altruistic chiding on behalf of the bard. I can also see
> that my chatter was so upsetting that they couldn't even summon the
clarity
> of thought to begin another thread.
Greg enjoys Paul Crowley's sonnet inturdpretations as well.
> > So I hope you finally understand usenet, chatting, altruism, the
> > need to refrain from clogging our channel with personal
> > messaging to/from fellow gadflies....
>
> I totally understand, Greg. I will scourge myself with a length of
spaghetti
> (uncooked--ow!) and try to do better in future.
>
> >and now, as promised,
> > I will redeem my stooping to your chatter by offering just
> > a couple dozen fascinating facts from a new book,
> > "Michelangelo & the Pope’s Ceiling"...
(Snip offtopic crap from Troll Reynolds, the first poster to criticize
others for posting offtopic.)
> Thank you so much. That was very interesting. A great change from your
usual
> altruistic chiding.
Lynne, this is not a chatroom. Stop chatting with Troll Reynolds.
LynnE
"Neil Brennen" <chessno...@mindnospamspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LynnE" <lynnek...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:A35nc.49368$3Q4.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >
> > > Let it be. By being the second person to contribute to an
> > > insignificant thread you are the first to make it chatworthy.
> > > Let it be. Mostafa is not chatting but you are trying to.
> > > (We are/were HLAS and devoted to our subject, not the chatting.)
> >
> > But you are responding on the same thread and therefore making it even
> more
> > chatworthy. Even a chide can be chat, can't it?
>
> Lynne, why are you chatting with this gadfly Reynolds? Next thing you know
> you will be chatting about American football or Disney cartoons with
him -as
> Reynolds has done in the past.
But Neil, you of all people know how happy I am to chat with people who
speak kindly to me. I'm not up on American football, but I could probably
hold my own on cartoons if Greg would like to initiate the conversation. It
would be a BRIZE.
Aw shucks.
L.
>
>
Art Neuendorffer
P
TOM SNOUT
A
H
metalworker/tinker: SOUTHAMPTON
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http://www.egyptianmyths.com/ptah.htm
http://www.comptons.com/encyclopedia/ARTICLES/0125/01492736_A.html
<<PTAH (ptä): patron of METALWORKERS
The *HIEROGLYPHS* representing his name meant "SCULPTOR."
Ptah was often portrayed as a BEARDED, BALD male figure
with an ELABORATELY DECORATED NECKCOLLAR.>>
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PTAH, patron of MASONS
http://www.dermon.com/Ptah.htm
<<The Memphis triad consisted of the universal architect god, PTAH,
patron of *MASONS* , his consort Sekhmet, the lion-headed one
(sometimes Bast the cat goddess), and Nefertum/Imhotep, their son.
As the high god of Memphis, PTAH was declared the master of DESTINY
who imparts to the phenomenal world the character of an established
order, valid for all time. In Abydos, in the temple of SETI I,
he is called 'he who has created MAAT' - that is, divine order.>>
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"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> My altruism is a sacrifice--
> I trade my sociability for discipline in order
> that we have a sense of order over chaos.
> +++
> If Michelangelo had had his way he never would have
> painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. He considered
> himself a sculptor, not a painter.
So, what did Vasari consider him?
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THE WINTER'S TALE Act 5, Scene 2
Third Gentleman the princess hearing of her mother's statue,
which is in the keeping of Paulina,--a piece many
years in doing and now newly performed by that rare
Italian master, Julio Romano, who, had he himself
eternity and could put breath into his work, would
beguile Nature of her custom, so perfectly he is her
ape: he so near to Hermione hath done Hermione that
they say one would speak to her and stand in hope of
answer: thither with all greediness of affection
are they gone, and there they intend to sup.
<<This passage was once used by commentators to prove
Shakespeare's essential ignorance of Italy and Italian art, because
Giulio(c.1492-1596) was known as a painter & architect, not as a
sculptor. Yet Shakespeare was right! Giulio's tombstone in the church of
San Barnaba at Mantua has long disappeared, but the Latin epitaphs on it
that were recorded by Vasari state that Giulio was a master of painting,
architecture and sculpture. Vasari was published in 1550 in Italian and
not translated until modern times.>> _Who Wrote Shakespeare?_
------------------------------------------------------
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Raphael was famous for his personal charm. Vasari
> attributed his sweet, civilized nature to the fact that
> he was breast-fed by his mother instead of being sent
> to a wet nurse in the country. Even animals were
> said to love him instinctively.
Painting hath charms to soothe the savage Bast breast.
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Though Michelangelo had some training as a painter,
> when he was commissioned to paint the Sistine Chapel’s
> vault he had not worked in fresco for almost 20 years.
http://www.fresnomet.org/ex_beakman.html
> Michelangelo was 33 years old when
> he began frescoing the Sistine Ceiling.
33. . .33? That number seems to ring a bell.
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Michelangelo complained that he was underpaid for the
> Sistine Ceiling. In fact he was paid 30 times as much as
> a qualified artisan could expect to earn in a single year.
But a dozen artisans worked for 4 years on the ceiling!!
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> The art of fresco enjoyed such great esteem precisely
> because it was so famously difficult to master. Its myriad
> obstacles are reflected in the Italian expression stare
> fresco, meaning “to be a in a fix or a mess.” Even
> Leonardo da Vinci had difficulty with fresco.
> One of Michelangelo's most peculiar problems from
> frescoing the Ceiling was a bizarre sort of eyestrain.
> Because he was forced to look upwards for hours on
> end while painting, he got to the point where he could
> only read a letter if he held it at arm's length above
> his head. Luckily, this condition eventually passed.
It was a stare fresco crossed cover.
> Fresco, meaning “fresh,” comes from the fact that the
> painter always worked on fresh (wet) plaster. A painter
> had no more than 12 to 24 hours to paint on the wet
> plaster before it dried and would no longer absorb
> the pigments.
---------------------------------------------------
Bosco?
---------------------------------------------------
George: I really should be getting back to my fiancé, you know, we, uh, we
had this big fight yesterday and, uh, well she, she wants to-to know my
secret code. I-I don't know, I can't tell her. The funny thing is, you know,
I would really love to tell someone 'cause it's killing me. You uh, you
wanna know what it is? It's Bosco. You know, the chocolate syrup? I love
that stuff, I pour it in milk, it's my favorite drink. Hoo-hoo, boy, that is
a relief!
Mrs. Peterman: Bosco. Bosco.
George: Oh, shhh.
Mrs. Peterman (sitting up): Bosco!
Peterman (from another room): Momma?
George: Quiet, quiet! It's a secret.
Mrs. Peterman: Bosco! Bosco! Bosco!
George: Shut up! Shut up!
Peterman runs in.
Peterman: Momma! What are you trying to say?
Mrs. Peterman: Bosco.
Mrs. Peterman falls back in bed and closes her eyes.
Peterman: She's gone. Bosco?
---------------------------------------------------
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Contrary to legend, Michelangelo did not fresco the
> Sistine Ceiling while lying on his back. He designed
> the scaffolding himself so that he and his assistants
> could stand up on it and bend backwards slightly to
> work on the vault.
It wouldn't be lying then to say that Michelangelo
bent over backwards to please the Pope.
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Adam's left hand in the Creation of Adam
> is not actually Michelangelo's own work.
He left it for others then?
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Michelangelo was famous for his poor personal hygiene.
> He followed his father's advice: “Never wash yourself,”
> and often slept in his clothes and boots. Sometimes he
> went so long without taking them off that the skin came
> away like a snake's with the boots.
Isabella of Castile, at least, bathed twice in her lifetime!
-----------------------------------------------------------
JERRY: What are you, gonna take it off and make her rinse it in club soda?
GEORGE: No, I'm gonna hold it under her nose so she can smell the scent of
stale Bosco that I had to live with for three years, and I'm gonna say,
"Remember this shirt, baby?! Well, now, it's payback time!"
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Raphael's “Eve in the Temptation in the Garden” in the
> Vatican apartments is actually a mirror image, rather
> than a direct copy, of Leonardo da Vinci's “Leda,” a
> comnon trick used by artists to disguise an otherwise
> familiar image.
Eve leda sheltered life before the Temptation.
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> When Michelangelo was frescoing the Sistine Ceiling, Rome
> was home to some 7,000 prostitutes and 3,000 priests.
> Syphilis was rife among the clergy (even Pope Julius II had it).
Michelangelo was above all that!
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Julius II was the first pope to lead an army into battle.
> He required his cardinals to join the charge, and he
> traveled with the choir from the Sistine Chapel.
So why can't the church be more active today?
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Julius II was the first Pope to grow a beard. In doing so,
> he was going against not only papal tradition but also
> canon law.
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I was thinking of a plan To dye one's WHISKERS GREEN,
And always use a ceiling fan so that they could not be seen.
------------------------------------------------------------------
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Julius II created the Swiss Guards as the official papal
> escort in 1510, granting them a distinctive costume that
> was said to have been designed by Michelangelo.
"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder,
and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the
Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of
democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Michelangelo had to fresco 12,000 square feet of the
> Sistine Ceiling. He did not do it alone. He recruited as
> many as a dozen men to help him during the four years
> he worked in the Sistine Chapel.
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LUCIO: Does Bridget paint still, Pompey, ha?
---------------------------------------------------------------
April 6, 1584 BRIDGET VERE born.
April 6, 1584, CARAVAGGIO apprenticed to painter SIMONe PETER-zano
April 6, 1588, CARAVAGGIO ends apprenticeship to SIMONe PETER-zano
April 6, 1528 DURER dies in Nurnberg
April 6, 1483 RAPHAEL born/christened?
April 6, 1520 RAPHAEL dies on his 37th birthday.
leaving unfinished his 'Transfiguration'
-------------------------------------------------------------
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Some of the muscles on the nudes in the Sistine Ceiling
> are painted in such detail that modern anatomy has yet
> to find names for them.
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SARTORius, n. [NL., fr. L. SARTOR a patcher, TAILOR, fr. sarcire,
SARTum, to patch, mend.] (Anat.) A muscle of the THIGH, called the
TAILOR's muscle, which arises from the hip bone and is inserted just
below the knee. So named because its contraction was supposed to
produce the position of the legs assumed by the TAILOR in sitting.
[S]ouls of Poets dead and gone
[A]re the Winds a sweeter home,
[R]icher is uncellar'd Cavern
[T]han the merr[y] mermaid Tavern?
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"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> Michelangelo seems to have included his self-portrait
> at least three times in the Sistine Ceiling.
But where's Waldo?
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JOYCE: Ulysses, Scylla & Charybdis
STEPHEN ( *Stringendo* .) He has hidden his own name, a fair name,
William, in the plays, a super here, a clown there, as a painter of old
Italy set his face in a dark corner of his canvas. He has revealed it in
the sonnets where there is Will in oVERplus. Like John O'Gaunt his name
is dear to him, as dear as the coat of arms he toadied for, on a BEND
sable a spear or steeled argent, honorificabilitudinitatibus, dearer
than his glory of greatest shakescene in the country. What's in a name?
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"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> For the Sistine Ceiling, Michelangelo would only use
> pigments made by a specific order of Florentine monks.
Cancel that order. We can'ta use any Leda paint.
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> When Michelangelo unveiled the Sistine Ceiling, everyone
> seems to have been delighted and amazed except
> Pope Julius, who wanted Michelangelo to add touches
> of gold and ultramarine—gaudy additions that
> Michelangelo flatly refused to paint.
"I'ma gonna hold my shirt under hisa nose so he canna smell the scent ofa
stale fresco that I had to live with for four years, and I'ma gonna say,
"Remember this shirt, baby?! Well, now, it's payback time!"
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> A later pope, Hadrian VI, wanted to take a hammer to
> the Sistine Ceiling because he found it obscene. Luckily
> he died before he could carry out his plan.
Wasn't that pope's name Ashcroft VI?
"Greg Reynolds" <eve...@core.com> wrote
> The recent restoration of the Sistine Ceiling took twice
> as long as Michelangelo had needed to paint the fresco
> in the first place.
Those restorers still have to read their letters at arm's length above their
heads.
Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
> I prefer inane chatting to "I strangled and ****** my dog"
> which didn't seem to disconcert you in the least.
This charming little Apr 27 item was fairly widespread
but seems to have appeared in only one of the eight
" humanities.* " newsgroups:
humanities.philosophy.objectivism
Are you sure you saw it here at HLAS?
(just curious)
Art
LynnE
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:nu2dnQg30ZW...@comcast.com...
Yep, I'm pretty sure, as I don't go to any other newsgroup; however, it was
on Google, not my outlook express, and only when using the browser on
Roger's computer. No, I know, it doesn't make any sense to me either now.
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> Art
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