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Lucy family of Charlecote - a marriage with the well-known Herbert/Earls of Pembroke family

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Lyra

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Jun 23, 2008, 1:56:27 PM6/23/08
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Here we have a daughter of the
Lucy family of Charlecote -

Shakespeare "sheep-stealing" -

marrying with the Herbert family.

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Yes, they ARE the same Herberts who had Wilton House -
Earls of Pembroke -
First Folio dedications, and Lord Pembroke's Men acting company.

i.e., Shakespeare and Marlowe links.

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(quote, excerpts)

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Thomas HERBERT

Born: ABT 1502, Wynerstowe, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 8 Oct 1588


Father: William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)

Mother: Blanche MILBOURNE

Married 1: Dau. CATESBY

Married 2: Anne LUCY (dau. of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote and Elizabeth
Empson) ABT 1527, Charlcott, Warwickshire, England


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Thomas HERBERT

Born: ABT 1502, Wynerstowe, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 8 Oct 1588

Notes: BEF the dissolution Thomas Herbert held office in three
monasteries in the Welsh marches. In 1545 he and William Breton bought
the site and various possessions of one of these,
Grace Dieu,
for 517 pounds, as well as ex-monastic property in the Fenlands,
Herefordshire and London. Although Herbert's public career was
confined to Monmouthshire, his two marriages gave him some standing in
Warwickshire. After 1550 his position in his own shire was
strengthened first by the financial troubles which overtook his eldest
brother Charles, on whose death in 1557 he bought the manor of
Wonastow, one of two set aside for the payment of debts, and then by
the death of the next brother without male issue. It was Charles
Herbert whom he succeeded as knight of the shire in Mary's second
Parliament. He was to win a contested election in 1559 but thereafter
his only contribution to the Commons was the son Henry whom he
returned as sheriff in 1572.

Father: William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)

Mother: Blanche MILBOURNE

Married 1: Dau. CATESBY

Married 2: Anne LUCY (dau. of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote and Elizabeth
Empson) ABT 1527, Charlcott, Warwickshire, England

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT3.htm

Lyra

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Jun 23, 2008, 2:02:48 PM6/23/08
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Lyra wrote:

>
> ````````````````````````````
>
> Here we have a daughter of the
> Lucy family of Charlecote -
>
> Shakespeare "sheep-stealing" -
>
> marrying with the Herbert family.
>

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>
> Yes, they ARE the same Herberts who had Wilton House -

> Earls of Pembroke -

> First Folio dedications, and Lord Pembroke's Men acting company.
>
> i.e., Shakespeare and Marlowe links.
>
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Here is the family of Thomas Herbert

(who married Anne Lucy)

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(quote, excerpts)


HERBERT FAMILY

III. TROYE LINE

William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)

Born: ABT 1448 / 1452, Troye, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 1524

Father: William HERBERT (1º E. Pembroke)

Mother: Frond Verch HOESGYN

Married 1: Jane DUNN

Married 2: Blanche MILBOURNE ABT 1499

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Children:

1. Charles HERBERT (Sir Knight)

2. Thomas HERBERT

3. Son HERBERT

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Charles HERBERT (Sir Knight)

Born: ABT 1500 / BEF 1503, Troye, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 1557

Notes: The Herbert family of Troy, near Monmouth, was established by
Sir William Herbert, a bastard son of William Herbert, Earl of
Pembroke of the first creation.

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT3.htm

Lyra

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Jun 23, 2008, 2:13:34 PM6/23/08
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Lyra wrote:

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Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -

Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -

(more to come on this -)

(i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)

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(quote, excerpts)

Thomas HERBERT

Born: ABT 1502, Wynerstowe, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 8 Oct 1588


Father: William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)

Mother: Blanche MILBOURNE

Married 1: Dau. CATESBY

Married 2: Anne LUCY (dau. of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote and
Elizabeth
Empson) ABT 1527, Charlcott, Warwickshire, England


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> >
> > ````````````````````````````
> >
> > Here we have a daughter of the
> > Lucy family of Charlecote -
> >
> > Shakespeare "sheep-stealing" -
> >
> > marrying with the Herbert family.
> >
>
> ````````````````````````````
> >
> > Yes, they ARE the same Herberts who had Wilton House -
>
> > Earls of Pembroke -
>
> > First Folio dedications, and Lord Pembroke's Men acting company.
> >
> > i.e., Shakespeare and Marlowe links.
> >
> ````````````````````````````
>
> Here is the family of Thomas Herbert
>
> (who married Anne Lucy)
>
> `````````
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
>
> HERBERT FAMILY
>
> III. TROYE LINE
>
> William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)
>
> Born: ABT 1448 / 1452, Troye, Monmouthshire, Wales
>
> Died: 1524
>

> Father: William HERBERT (1� E. Pembroke)

Lyra

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Jun 23, 2008, 2:18:04 PM6/23/08
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Lyra wrote:

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>
> Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -
>
> Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
>
> (more to come on this -)
>
> (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)
>

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(quote, excerpts)

___________________


Blanche MILBOURNE

___________________


Born: ABT 1474

Notes: received part of the estate of Edward Stafford, 3rd Duke of
Buckingham, when Henry VIII confiscated it.
Blanche was heiress of Milbourne, and her dowry was the Manor of
Icomb, Gloucestershire.

At the death of James Whitney, she married Sir William Herbert, Knight
of Troy, Monmouthshire.

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Father: Simon MILBOURNE (Sir)

Mother: Jane BASKERVILLE

`````````

Married 1: James WHITNEY (Sir) (b. ABT 1472 - d. 1499) (son of Robert
Whitney and Constance Touchet) ABT 1490, Whitney, England

Children:

1. Robert WHITNEY (Sir Knight) (b. 1491 - d. AFT 1555) (m.1 Margaret
Wye - m.2 Elizabeth Morgan)

2. James WHITNEY (b. ABT 1493 - d. 1546)

3. Watkin WHITNEY (m. Margaret Riece)

4. Elizabeth WHITNEY (b. ABT 1496) (m. Thomas Morgan of Arkston)

5. Anne WHITNEY (b. ABT 1497) (m. Henry Carey)

6. Eustace WHITNEY (b. ABT 1498) (m. Anne Parry)

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Married 2: William HERBERT of Troye (Sir) ABT 1499

Children:

6. Charles HERBERT (Sir Knight)

7. Thomas HERBERT

8. Son HERBERT

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MILBOURNE.htm#Blanche%20MILBOURNE1

Lyra

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Lyra wrote:

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> >
> > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -
> >
> > Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
> >
> > (more to come on this -)
> >
> > (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)
> >

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One of Blanche Milbourne's children,

Elizabeth WHITNEY,

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(quote)

> 4. Elizabeth WHITNEY (b. ABT 1496) (m. Thomas Morgan of Arkston)

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is the grandmother of

CATHERINE CAREY,

very great friend and cousin of the queen (Elizabeth I)

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and daughter of

the Lord Chamberlain

(had acting company acting Shakespeare plays)

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and wife to the Lord High Admiral,

Charles Howard, Queen's cousin,

(had acting company)

(house at Deptford, near Eleanor Bull's house)


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Lyra

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Jun 23, 2008, 2:39:37 PM6/23/08
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Lyra wrote:

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______________

Catherine Carey

______________


(quote, excerpts)


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Anne MORGAN (B. Hundson)

Born: 1529, Arkston, Herefordshire, England

Died: BEF 24 Oct 1568 / 19 Jan 1607

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Father: Thomas MORGAN of Arkston

Mother: Elizabeth WHITNEY

Married: Henry CAREY (1° B. Hunsdon) 21 May 1545, Hengrave, Suffolk,
England

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Children:

1. Catherine CAREY (C. Nottingham)

(and others)

`````````

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Anne%20MORGAN%20(B.%20Hundson)


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Henry CAREY

(1st B. Carey of Hunsdon)


Said to be son of Henry VIII by Mary Boleyn, officially son of Sir
William Carey.

William Carey died on 23 Jun 1528 and Henry VIII promptly granted
Anne Boleyn the wardship of her nephew (and possibly his son), two-
year-old Henry Carey.

In 1559, on the accession of Elizabeth to the throne, Henry Carey
was ennobled as Baron Hunsdon, with lands in Hertfordshire, Kent, and
Hampshire, and becomes Elizabeth's Captain of the Gentlemen
Pensioners, the Queen's personal bodyguard.

Henry eventually gains the office of Lord Chamberlain as well.

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/HenryCarey(1BHundson).htm

Lyra

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> > > >
> > > > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -
> > > >
> > > > Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
> > > >
> > > > (more to come on this -)
> > > >
> > > > (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)


````````````````````````````

Here is some of the family tree of the (Herbert)
Earls of Pembroke,

which will show the link to the Thomas Herbert who married Blanche
Milbourne.

`````````

(quote, excerpts)

(This is the Earls of the "first creation")

`````````


William HERBERT (1º E. Pembroke)

Born: 1423, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Acceded: 1468, created by Edward IV

Died: 27 Jul 1469, Banbury, Oxfordshire / Northamptonshire, England


Buried: Tintern Abbey

Notes: Knight of the Garter. Leading Yorkist in War of Roses. Captured
by Lancastrians and beheaded 1469 at Banbury.

Father: William Ap THOMAS HERBERT (Sir Knight)

Mother: Gladys GAM

Married: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke) ABT 1440, Hereford,
Herefordshire, England

Children:

1. Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)

2. William HERBERT (1º E. Huntingdon)

3. Walter HERBERT (Sir Knight)

4. George HERBERT

5. Phillip HERBERT

6. John HERBERT

7. Margaret HERBERT

8. Thomas HERBERT

9. Cecily HERBERT

10. Isabel HERBERT

11. Anne HERBERT

12. Catherine HERBERT (C. Kent)

Associated with: Maud TURBERVILLE Ap HOWELL GRANT

Children:

13. Richard HERBERT (Sir)

14. John HERBERT

Associated with: Frond Verch HOESGYN

Children:

15. Anne HERBERT

16. George HERBERT (Sir Knight)

17. William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)


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(He is the grandfather (by an illegitimacy)
of the Thomas Herbert referred to above)

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(and the grandfather, also,
of William Herbert,

1st Earl of Pembroke, Second creation -

who is father of Henry Herbert,
2nd Earl of Pembroke, owner of Wilton House
in the Elizabethan days.

(and, himself, father (their legitimacy disputed)
of the two "incomparable brothers" in the First Folio dedication)

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Some more of the family -

(quote, excerpts)

`````````

Richard HERBERT (Sir)

`````````

Acceded: Ewyas, Hereford

Died: 2/12 Sep 1510

Notes: Gentleman Usher to Henry VII, and Constable and Porter of
Abergavenny Castle.

`

Father: William HERBERT (1º E. Pembroke)

Mother: Maud TURBERVILLE Ap HOWELL GRANT

`

Married 1: Isabel WILLIAMS

Children:

1. Thomas HERBERT (b. ABT 1482, Ewyas, Monmouthshire, England)

2. William HERBERT (b. ABT 1484, Ewyas, Monmouthshire, England)

`

Married 2: Margaret CRADOCK (dau. of Sir Mathew Cradock of Swansey and
Alice (Jane) Mancell, widow of John Malefant)

Children:

3. George HERBERT of Swansey (Sir)

`

4. William HERBERT (1° E. Pembroke)

`

5. Thomas HERBERT of Abergavenny

6. Margaret HERBERT


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Henry HERBERT (2° E. Pembroke)

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Born: AFT 1538

Acceded: 1570

Died: 19 Jan 1601, Wilton

Buried: 5 Mar 1601, Salisbury Cathedral

Notes: Knight of the Garter. The Complete Peerage vol.X,pp.410-412.
President of the Council in Wales 1586, Lord Lieutenant of North and
South Wales and of cos. Hereford, Salop, Somerset, Wilts and
Worcester.


Father: William HERBERT (1° E. Pembroke)

Mother: Anne PARR (C. Pembroke)

`

Married 1: Catherine GREY (C. Hertford) 21 May 1553, London -
ANNULMENT 1554

`

Married 2: Catherine TALBOT (C. Pembroke) 17 Feb 1562/3, Baynard
Castle, London

Children:

1. Mary HERBERT

`

Married 3: Mary SIDNEY (C. Pembroke) 21 Apr 1577

Children:

`

1. William HERBERT (3° E. Pembroke)

`

2. Catherine HERBERT (b. 1581 - d. 1584)

3. Anne HERBERT (b. 1583 - d. ABT 1606)

`

4. Phillip HERBERT (4° E. Pembroke/ 1° E. Montgomery)

`

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT1.htm


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Lyra

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Lyra wrote:

>
> ````````````````````````````
>
>
> > > > >
> > > > > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -
> > > > >
> > > > > Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
> > > > >
> > > > > (more to come on this -)
> > > > >
> > > > > (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)
>
>
> ````````````````````````````
>
> Here is some of the family tree of the (Herbert)
> Earls of Pembroke,
>
> which will show the link to the Thomas Herbert who married Blanche
> Milbourne.
>
> `````````
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
> (This is the Earls of the "first creation")
>
> `````````
>
>

> William HERBERT (1� E. Pembroke)


>
> Born: 1423, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
>
> Acceded: 1468, created by Edward IV
>
> Died: 27 Jul 1469, Banbury, Oxfordshire / Northamptonshire, England
>
>
> Buried: Tintern Abbey
>
> Notes: Knight of the Garter. Leading Yorkist in War of Roses. Captured
> by Lancastrians and beheaded 1469 at Banbury.
>
> Father: William Ap THOMAS HERBERT (Sir Knight)
>
> Mother: Gladys GAM
>
> Married: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke) ABT 1440, Hereford,
> Herefordshire, England
>
> Children:
>
> 1. Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)
>

> 2. William HERBERT (1� E. Huntingdon)

In other words, the William Herbert who married the widow of a Whitney
(Blanche Milbourne)

is the half-brother
of the Richard Herbert whose grandson is Henry Herbert,
Earl of Pembroke in the time of Elizabeth I.

This would be a close family link between the two branches of the
Herberts.

William Herbert is the stepfather of Whitney children,
including Thomas Herbert who married Anne Lucy of Charlecote.

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and step-grandfather of Catherine Carey,
married to the Lord High Admiral Charles Howard.

````````````````````````````

>
> Some more of the family -
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
> `````````
>
> Richard HERBERT (Sir)
>
> `````````
>
> Acceded: Ewyas, Hereford
>
> Died: 2/12 Sep 1510
>
> Notes: Gentleman Usher to Henry VII, and Constable and Porter of
> Abergavenny Castle.
>
> `
>

> Father: William HERBERT (1� E. Pembroke)

Lyra

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Lyra wrote:


> >
> > ````````````````````````````

Note an error has occurred -

> >
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -

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this is WILLIAM HERBERT, not Thomas

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

I hope this does not make the whole story completely incomprehensible
-

I am finding it very confusing, myself -

time to write out a chart of the families, maybe -

always makes it clearer.

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (more to come on this -)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)
> >
> >
```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> >
> > Here is some of the family tree of the (Herbert)
> > Earls of Pembroke,
> >
> > which will show the link to the Thomas Herbert who married Blanche
> > Milbourne.

```````````````````

(WILLIAM Herbert, not Thomas)

```````````````````````````````````
> >
> > ````````````````````````````

(referring to the Earl of Pembroke, 1st creation - )


> >
> > (He is the grandfather (by an illegitimacy)
> > of the Thomas Herbert referred to above)
> >
```````````````````
> > (and the grandfather, also,
> > of William Herbert,
> >
> > 1st Earl of Pembroke, Second creation -
> >
> > who is father of Henry Herbert,
> > 2nd Earl of Pembroke, owner of Wilton House
> > in the Elizabethan days.

```````````````````
> >
> > (and, himself, father (their legitimacy disputed)
> > of the two "incomparable brothers" in the First Folio dedication)
> >
````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> In other words, the William Herbert who married the widow of a Whitney
> (Blanche Milbourne)
>
> is the half-brother
> of the Richard Herbert whose grandson is Henry Herbert,
> Earl of Pembroke in the time of Elizabeth I.
>
> This would be a close family link between the two branches of the
> Herberts.

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``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> William Herbert is the stepfather of Whitney children,

his own children


> including Thomas Herbert who married Anne Lucy of Charlecote.
>
> ````````````````````````````
`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> and step-grandfather of Catherine Carey,
> married to the Lord High Admiral Charles Howard.
>
> ````````````````````````````
>
> >
> >

> > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> >

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> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -

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(WILLIAM Herbert, not Thomas)

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Lyra

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Lyra wrote:

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A link here, of Thomas Herbert
who married Anne Lucy of Charlecote,

to the Catesby family,

( - Gunpowder Plot ? -)

a daughter of theirs marrying him as his other wife,
and sharing a mother with Anne Lucy.

(Yes, it gets more and more complex)

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````


>
>
> > >
> > > ````````````````````````````
>
> Note an error has occurred -
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note the marriage of Thomas HERBERT with Blanche Milbourne -
>
> `````````
>
> this is WILLIAM HERBERT, not Thomas
>
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> I hope this does not make the whole story completely incomprehensible
> -
>
> I am finding it very confusing, myself -
>
> time to write out a chart of the families, maybe -
>
> always makes it clearer.
>
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Blanche Milbourne is the widow of a WHITNEY -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (more to come on this -)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (i.e., a family link to ELEANOR (Whitney) BULL of Deptford)
> > >
> > >
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

>


> (referring to the Earl of Pembroke, 1st creation - )
> > >
> > > (He is the grandfather (by an illegitimacy)
> > > of the Thomas Herbert referred to above)
> > >
> ```````````````````
> > > (and the grandfather, also,
> > > of William Herbert,
> > >
> > > 1st Earl of Pembroke, Second creation -
> > >
> > > who is father of Henry Herbert,
> > > 2nd Earl of Pembroke, owner of Wilton House
> > > in the Elizabethan days.
>
> ```````````````````
> > >
> > > (and, himself, father (their legitimacy disputed)
> > > of the two "incomparable brothers" in the First Folio dedication)
> > >
> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> >
> > In other words, the William Herbert who married the widow of a Whitney
> > (Blanche Milbourne)
> >
> > is the half-brother
> > of the Richard Herbert whose grandson is Henry Herbert,
> > Earl of Pembroke in the time of Elizabeth I.
> >
> > This would be a close family link between the two branches of the
> > Herberts.
>
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> >
> > William Herbert is the stepfather of Whitney children,
> his own children
> > including Thomas Herbert who married Anne Lucy of Charlecote.
> >
> > ````````````````````````````
> `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> >
> > and step-grandfather of Catherine Carey,
> > married to the Lord High Admiral Charles Howard.
> >
> > ````````````````````````````
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> > >
>
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````


>
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

Lyra

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I've not the chance at present
to add to my latest post

(number 10 in this thread)

(not yet at Google, though
Outloook Express has it)

so I am sending in the following anyway -

`````````

(quote, excerpts)

Thomas HERBERT

Born: ABT 1502, Wynerstowe, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died: 8 Oct 1588

`

Father: William HERBERT of Troye (Sir)

`

Mother: Blanche MILBOURNE

`

Married 1: Dau. CATESBY (*1)

Married 2: Anne LUCY (dau. of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote and Elizabeth
Empson) ABT 1527, Charlcott, Warwickshire, England

`

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT3.htm#Thomas%20HERBERT2


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(*1)

This link leads to the following -

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(quote, excerpts)

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Dau. CATESBY

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Father: George CATESBY

Mother: Elizabeth EMPSON

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Married: Thomas HERBERT

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http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CATESBY.htm#Dau.%20CATESBY1

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Elizabeth EMPSON

Born: ABT 1464 / 1478, Towcester, Northamptonshire, England

Died: BEF 1567

Father: Richard EMPSON (Sir Knight)

Mother: Jane ?

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Married 1: George CATESBY 1496, Towcester, Northamptonshire, England

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Children:

1. Elizabeth CATESBY

2. Jane CATESBY

3. Audrey CATESBY

4. William CATESBY

5. Richard CATESBY (Sir)

6. Dau. CATESBY

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Married 2: Thomas LUCY of Charlecote 1509, Gloucestershire, England

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Children:

7. William LUCY (Sir) (b. 1511 - d. 1551) (m. Anne Fermor)

8. Thomas LUCY

9. Edmund LUCY

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10. Anne LUCY (m. Thomas Herbert)

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11. Radegunda LUCY

12. Barbara LUCY (m. Richard (John) Tracy)

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/EMPSON.htm#Elizabeth%20EMPSON2


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The post before this (No. 11 in the thread)

has a William Herbert

marrying both

Anne Lucy (of Charlecote -
Shakespeare "sheep-stealing" story)

and a daughter of the Catesbys.

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Her brother Sir Richard Catesby

married a Spencer

(the same family as Alice Spencer,

Ferdinando Strange/Stanley's wife)

and

their son

William CATESBY of Lapworth, Warwickshire, England

married

a Catherine WILLINGTON

who also married a Throckmorton

and a Kempe.

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(quote)

(dau. of William Willington and Anne Littleton) (m.2 Anthony
Throckmorton - m.3 Richard Kempe)

`

I'm sending this to show that families of the time
have links to each other that mightn't be seen at first.

`
That Will Kempe, for example,
may not be an isolated person,
but be linked closely to others

`
and that the Kempe family may marry
with the same families as the
Throckmortons, a very high family
closely linked to the Queen.

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(quote)

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Richard CATESBY (Sir)

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Born: ABT 1505/6, Ashby St. Ledgers, Northamptonshire, England

Died: 8 Mar 1553/4, Eaton, Bedfordshire, England

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Father: George CATESBY

Mother: Elizabeth EMPSON

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Married 1: Dorothy SPENCER 1524, Wormleighton, Warwickshire, England

Children:

1. Elizabeth CATESBY

2. William CATESBY of Lapworth

3. Thomas CATESBY (b. ABT 1529 - d. 28 Apr 1560)

4. George CATESBY

5. John CATESBY

6. Isabel CATESBY

7. Jane CATESBY

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CATESBY.htm#William%20CATESBY%20of%20Lapworth1

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William CATESBY of Lapworth

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Born: ABT 1526, Lapworth, Warwickshire, England

Died: BEF 1554

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Father: Richard CATESBY (Sir)

Mother: Dorothy SPENCER

Married: Catherine WILLINGTON (b. ABT 1518 - d. 6 Jan 1591/2)

(dau. of William Willington and Anne Littleton) (m.2 Anthony
Throckmorton - m.3 Richard Kempe)

ABT 1544

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Children:

1. William CATESBY (Sir)

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The Catesbys


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The family line then continues,

to the Robert Catesby

of the Gunpowder Plot

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William CATESBY (Sir)

Born: 1547, Ashby St. Ledgers, Northamptonshire

Died: 1598, Ashby St. Ledgers, Northamptonshire

Father: William CATESBY of Lapworth

Mother: Catherine WILLINGTON

Married: Anne THROCKMORTON 9 Jun 1566, Ashby St. Ledgers,
Northamptonshire

Children:

1. George CATESBY

2. Anne CATESBY

3. William CATESBY

4. Elizabeth CATESBY

5. Robert CATESBY

6. Richard CATESBY

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CATESBY.htm#William%20CATESBY%20(Sir)3

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Robert CATESBY

Born: 1573, Lapworth, Warwickshire, England

Died: 8 Nov 1605, Holbeach House, Staffordshire, England

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Notes: See his Biography.

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Father: William CATESBY (Sir)

Mother: Anne THROCKMORTON

`

Married: Catherine LEIGH (dau. Sir Thomas Leigh of Stoneleigh,
Warwickshire) 1592

Children:

1. William CATESBY

2. Robert CATESBY


http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CATESBY.htm#Robert%20CATESBY2


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> The Catesbys
>
> >

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see the post/thread


Robert Catesby - Gunpowder Plot


http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/msg/25e4a441b205591f

http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/browse_thread/thread/abc541f855d6bdc0#

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The Herbert family also link closely to the Percys,
Earls of Northumberland -

here is one link -

(the line following continues to the 9th Earl,
Henry Percy, Wizard Earl,
friend of Kit Marlowe.)

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William HERBERT (1º E. Pembroke)

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Born: 1423, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Acceded: 1468, created by Edward IV

Died: 27 Jul 1469, Banbury, Oxfordshire / Northamptonshire, England

Buried: Tintern Abbey

Notes: Knight of the Garter. Leading Yorkist in War of Roses. Captured
by Lancastrians and beheaded 1469 at Banbury.

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Father: William Ap THOMAS HERBERT (Sir Knight)

Mother: Gladys GAM

`

Married: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke) ABT 1440, Hereford,
Herefordshire, England

`

Children:

1. Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)

(etc.)

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Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)

`

Born: 1448, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Died: 27 Jul 1485/1495

Buried: Beverley Minster

`

Father: William HERBERT (1º E. Pembroke)

Mother: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke)

`

Married: Henry PERCY (4º E. Northumberland) ABT 1473/1476

`

Children:

1. Eleanor PERCY (D. Buckingham)

2. Henry Algernon PERCY (5º E. Northumberland)

3. William PERCY (Sir Knight)

4. Allan PERCY (b. 1479)

5. Josceline PERCY

6. Arundel PERCY (b. 1483 - d. 1544)

7. Anne PERCY (C. Arundel)

8. Elizabeth PERCY

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT1.htm#Maud%20HERBERT%20(C.%20Northumberland)

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Henry Algernon PERCY (5º E. Northumberland)

`

Born: 14 Jan 1478

Died: 19 May 1527

Buried: Beverley Minster, Beverley, Yorkshire, England

Notes: Knight of the Garter. The Complete Peerage,V.ix,p719. Acquired
the sobriquet "Henry the Magnificent" for his expenditure on
entertainment. Helped suppress a rising of Cornishmen at the
Blackheath Rebellion in 1497. Constable of Knaresborough; Warden of
the Marches 1503. Commanded 500 Northumbrian light horse at the Battle
of the Spurs against France in 1513. Member of the Council of the
North 1522.

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Father: Henry PERCY (4º E. Northumberland)

Mother: Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)

`

Married: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland) BEF 1502

`

Children:

1. Henry Algernon PERCY (6º E. Northumberland)

2. Thomas PERCY (Sir)

3. Margaret PERCY (C. Cumberland)

4. Maud PERCY

5. Ingelram PERCY (Sir)


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Henry Algernon PERCY (6º E. Northumberland)

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Born: ABT 1502

Died: 30 Jun 1537, Hackney, Middlesex, England

Notes: See his Biography.

`

Father: Henry Algernon PERCY (5º E. Northumberland)

Mother: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland)

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Married: Mary TALBOT (C. Northumberland) Jan 1524


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Thomas PERCY (Sir)

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Born: ABT 1504, Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Died: 2 Jun 1537, Tyburn

Buried: Crutched Friars' Church, London

`

Notes: Executed at Tyburn on 2nd Jun 1537 for his part in the
Pilgrimage of Grace - a traditionalist uprising in yorkshire against
enclosures of common land, the Dissolution of the Monasteries, Thomas
Cromwell and the role of Parliament in passing his legislation.

`

Father: Henry Algernon PERCY (5º E. Northumberland)

Mother: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland)

`

Married: Eleanor HARBOTTLE (b. 1504, Beamish, England - d. 18 May
1566) (dau. of Guiscard Harbottle and Jane Willoughby)

`

Children:

1. Joan PERCY

2. Thomas PERCY (7º E. Northumberland)

3. Henry PERCY (8º E. Northumberland)

4. Guiscard PERCY

5. Richard PERCY

6. Mary PERCY

7. Catherine PERCY


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Thomas PERCY (7º E. Northumberland)

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Born: 1528/34, Petworth, Sussex, England

Died: 22 Aug 1572, York, Yorkshire

Notes: See his Biography.

`

Father: Thomas PERCY (Sir)

Mother: Eleanor HARBOTTLE

`

Married: Anne SOMERSET (C. Northumberland) 12 Jun 1558, Raglan,
Monmouthshire, England

`

Children:

1. Thomas PERCY

2. Elizabeth PERCY

3. Lucy PERCY

4. Joan PERCY

5. Mary PERCY


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Henry PERCY (8º E. Northumberland)

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Born: ABT 1532, Petworth, Sussex, England

Died: 21 Jun 1585, Tower of London

Notes: See his Biography.

`

Father: Thomas PERCY (Sir)

Mother: Eleanor HARBOTTLE

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Married: Catherine NEVILLE (C. Northumberland) 28 Jan 1562

`

Children:

1. Henry PERCY (9º E. Northumberland)

2. Thomas PERCY

3. William PERCY

4. Charles PERCY (Sir)

5. Lucy PERCY

6. Richard PERCY

7. Joscelyne PERCY (Sir)

8. Anne PERCY

9. Alan PERCY (Sir)

10. Eleanor PERCY

11. George PERCY

http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/PERCY.htm#Henry%20PERCY%20(8%BA%20E.%20Northumberland)

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Lyra wrote:

>
> ````````````````````````````
>
> The Herbert family also link closely to the Percys,
> Earls of Northumberland -

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>
> here is one link -
>
> (the line following continues to the 9th Earl,
> Henry Percy, Wizard Earl,
> friend of Kit Marlowe.)
>
> ```````````````````

and link closely too to the Devereux family
-

Earls of Essex.

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>
> William HERBERT (1� E. Pembroke)


>
> `
>
> Born: 1423, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
>
> Acceded: 1468, created by Edward IV
>
> Died: 27 Jul 1469, Banbury, Oxfordshire / Northamptonshire, England
>
> Buried: Tintern Abbey
>
> Notes: Knight of the Garter. Leading Yorkist in War of Roses. Captured
> by Lancastrians and beheaded 1469 at Banbury.
>
> `
>
> Father: William Ap THOMAS HERBERT (Sir Knight)
>
> Mother: Gladys GAM
>
> `
>
> Married: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke) ABT 1440, Hereford,
> Herefordshire, England
>
> `
>
> Children:
>
> 1. Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)
>
> (etc.)
>
> `````````````````````````````````````
>
> Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)
>
> `
>
> Born: 1448, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
>
> Died: 27 Jul 1485/1495
>
> Buried: Beverley Minster
>
> `
>

> Father: William HERBERT (1� E. Pembroke)


>
> Mother: Anne DEVEREUX (C. Pembroke)
>
> `
>

> Married: Henry PERCY (4� E. Northumberland) ABT 1473/1476


>
> `
>
> Children:
>
> 1. Eleanor PERCY (D. Buckingham)
>

> 2. Henry Algernon PERCY (5� E. Northumberland)


>
> 3. William PERCY (Sir Knight)
>
> 4. Allan PERCY (b. 1479)
>
> 5. Josceline PERCY
>
> 6. Arundel PERCY (b. 1483 - d. 1544)
>
> 7. Anne PERCY (C. Arundel)
>
> 8. Elizabeth PERCY
>
> http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HERBERT1.htm#Maud%20HERBERT%20(C.%20Northumberland)
>
> `
>

> Henry Algernon PERCY (5� E. Northumberland)


>
> `
>
> Born: 14 Jan 1478
>
> Died: 19 May 1527
>
> Buried: Beverley Minster, Beverley, Yorkshire, England
>
> Notes: Knight of the Garter. The Complete Peerage,V.ix,p719. Acquired
> the sobriquet "Henry the Magnificent" for his expenditure on
> entertainment. Helped suppress a rising of Cornishmen at the
> Blackheath Rebellion in 1497. Constable of Knaresborough; Warden of
> the Marches 1503. Commanded 500 Northumbrian light horse at the Battle
> of the Spurs against France in 1513. Member of the Council of the
> North 1522.
>
> `
>

> Father: Henry PERCY (4� E. Northumberland)


>
> Mother: Maud HERBERT (C. Northumberland)
>
> `
>
> Married: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland) BEF 1502
>
> `
>
> Children:
>

> 1. Henry Algernon PERCY (6� E. Northumberland)


>
> 2. Thomas PERCY (Sir)
>
> 3. Margaret PERCY (C. Cumberland)
>
> 4. Maud PERCY
>
> 5. Ingelram PERCY (Sir)
>
>
> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>

> Henry Algernon PERCY (6� E. Northumberland)


>
> `
>
> Born: ABT 1502
>
> Died: 30 Jun 1537, Hackney, Middlesex, England
>
> Notes: See his Biography.
>
> `
>

> Father: Henry Algernon PERCY (5� E. Northumberland)


>
> Mother: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland)
>
> `
>
> Married: Mary TALBOT (C. Northumberland) Jan 1524
>
>
> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>
> Thomas PERCY (Sir)
>
> `
>
> Born: ABT 1504, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
>
> Died: 2 Jun 1537, Tyburn
>
> Buried: Crutched Friars' Church, London
>
> `
>
> Notes: Executed at Tyburn on 2nd Jun 1537 for his part in the
> Pilgrimage of Grace - a traditionalist uprising in yorkshire against
> enclosures of common land, the Dissolution of the Monasteries, Thomas
> Cromwell and the role of Parliament in passing his legislation.
>
> `
>

> Father: Henry Algernon PERCY (5� E. Northumberland)


>
> Mother: Catherine SPENCER (C. Northumberland)
>
> `
>
> Married: Eleanor HARBOTTLE (b. 1504, Beamish, England - d. 18 May
> 1566) (dau. of Guiscard Harbottle and Jane Willoughby)
>
> `
>
> Children:
>
> 1. Joan PERCY
>

> 2. Thomas PERCY (7� E. Northumberland)
>
> 3. Henry PERCY (8� E. Northumberland)


>
> 4. Guiscard PERCY
>
> 5. Richard PERCY
>
> 6. Mary PERCY
>
> 7. Catherine PERCY
>
>
> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>

> Thomas PERCY (7� E. Northumberland)


>
> `
>
> Born: 1528/34, Petworth, Sussex, England
>
> Died: 22 Aug 1572, York, Yorkshire
>
> Notes: See his Biography.
>
> `
>
> Father: Thomas PERCY (Sir)
>
> Mother: Eleanor HARBOTTLE
>
> `
>
> Married: Anne SOMERSET (C. Northumberland) 12 Jun 1558, Raglan,
> Monmouthshire, England
>
> `
>
> Children:
>
> 1. Thomas PERCY
>
> 2. Elizabeth PERCY
>
> 3. Lucy PERCY
>
> 4. Joan PERCY
>
> 5. Mary PERCY
>
>
> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>

> Henry PERCY (8� E. Northumberland)


>
> `
>
> Born: ABT 1532, Petworth, Sussex, England
>
> Died: 21 Jun 1585, Tower of London
>
> Notes: See his Biography.
>
> `
>
> Father: Thomas PERCY (Sir)
>
> Mother: Eleanor HARBOTTLE
>
> `
>
> Married: Catherine NEVILLE (C. Northumberland) 28 Jan 1562
>
> `
>
> Children:
>

> 1. Henry PERCY (9� E. Northumberland)

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Some links of the Ardens, Quyneys, Throckmortons, Grevilles, Catesbys,
Kempes, Bulls

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Greville, Edward of Milcote

married Margaret, “one of the seven daughters and co-heirs of William
Willington, of Barcheston, co. Warwick” (d. 1455). Margaret’s
sisters’ marriages allied the Grevilles with interesting families that
have a tie with Shakespeare: “Margery married Thomas Holte of Aston,
Justice of N. Wales, obt. 37 Hen. VIII . . . Katherine, first to
Richard Kempe, secondly to William Catesby, and thirdly to Anthony
Throckmorton, a younger son of Sir George Throckmorton, Knight.
Dugdale. Warwickshire, page 416” (French 508).

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Greville, Ludovick (Lewis)

“ . . . the grandson of Sir Robert, or Lord, de Arden, Giles de Arden,
had an eldest daughter and co-heir, Margaret de Arden, who married
Ludovick, or Lewis Greville. Leland says of this alliance,--‘The
first notable increase of the landes of Graville of Draiton came by
one Lewis Graville, who married Margaret, the daughter and heir of a
noble, called Syr Giles Ardene’” (French 504).

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Mitton/Mytton, Richard

“In the autumn of 1598, Shakespeare’s friend Richard Quyney was in
London on the business of the Town Corporation; and on October 25,
from his London inn, he wrote a letter to the poet, requesting the not
inconsiderable loan of `30 pounds upon Mr. Bushell’s and my security
or Mr. Mytton’s with me.’ . . . . Obviously they must have been
people with whom the poet was well acquainted and on whose integrity
he could rely.

Of ‘Mr. Mytton,’ in other words Richard Mytton, gentleman, we know
nothing beyond that he was servant to the then lord of the manor of
Stratford, Sir Edward Greville (said to be a ‘good friend and near
kinsman’ of the Catholic Sir William Catesby).

About ‘Mr. Bushell’ we know rather more: he was Thomas Bushell, elder
son of Thomas Bushell, esquire, of Broad Marston in Gloucestershire.
The latter’s first wife, Elizabeth Winter-a Catholic whose relatives
were later involved in the Gunpowder Plot-bore him two sons, our
Master Thomas and Edward. By his second wife Bushell had a daughter,
Eleanor, and a third son, Henry.

How close the connections were between the Bushells of Broad Marston
and the Quyneys and Shakespeares of Stratford is shown by the
contracting of the following alliances: Eleanor Bushell became the
wife of Adrian Quyney (the elder son of Shakespeare’s friend Richard)
and a kinswoman of William Shakespeare when the latter’s daughter
Judith married Thomas Quyney (Richard Quyney’s younger son);
furthermore, Henry Bushell married a near relation of Thomas Nash, the
son of Shakespeare’s friend Anthony Nash and the future husband of
Shakespeare’s granddaughter Elizabeth Hall” (Mutschmann and
Wentersdorf 121, 122).

`

Percy, Thomas

[Had direct contact with James VI of Scot, interpreted as James’s
favor to catholics. Hired house to be used in Gunpowder Plot. His
daughter married son of Robert Catesby.]

`

Shakespeare, Mary Arden

“Mary Shakespeare, the poet’s mother, survived her husband by exactly
seven years, living a secluded life which has left hardly a trace in
the records. She must, however, have heard of the capture of a
seminary priest, Father John Sugar, quite near Stratford, and his
execution in Warwick on July 16, 1604.

This minor tragedy was followed soon by a much more terrible event
which shook the whole nation, and which affected Mary Shakespeare
almost as nearly as the Somerville affair of 1583: this was the
Gunpowder Plot in the autumn of 1605, which was directed at the
destruction of the royal family and the Parliament.

The ringleaders-Robert Catesby and Francis Tresham, Thomas, Robert and
John Winter-were not only members of prominent Warwickshire families
and, therefore, countrymen of the Shakespeares, but they were also
relatives of the poet’s mother.

Catesby and Tresham were the nephews of Edward Arden and his wife
Mary, a Throckmorton.

The Winters were the grandsons of Mary Arden’s aunt, Katherine
Throckmorton, and were also directly related to the Bushells, who in
their turn were close acquaintances of the Quyneys and the
Shakespeares” (Mutschmann and Wentersdorf 67).

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Throckmorton, Sir George

“ . . . the heir of Coughton, was present at the coronation of Anne
Boleyn, and was sheriff of the county in 35 Henry VIII. He built the
great gatehouse at Coughton, and the tomb for himself and his wife,
Catherine, daughter of Nicholas, first Lord Vaux. They were brother
and sister of the Guild of Knowle 1526. He was made Keeper of the
House of the Lady Anne of Cleves, to have the government thereof.”

[Robert, son of George by George’s first wife, had a daughter, Mary,
who married Edward Arden of Park Hall.
By his second wife, he had a daughter, Anne, who married Sir William
Catesby.

Robert’s third son, Clement, married Katherine Neville, eldest
daughter of Sir Edward Neville, the sister of Lord Abergavenny.]
(Stopes, Shakespeare’s Warwickshire Contemporaries, 136).

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Tresham, Sir Thomas

Father of Francis Tresham and brother of “Lady Vaux of Harroden, about
10 miles from Holdenby. Tresham’s great-grandfather (d. 1471) married
Margaret, daughter of William, Lord Zouch of Harringworth.
Christopher Hatton’s ancestors, the Holdenbys, quartered the arms of
Zouch, but Treshams did not recognize a relationship with Hatton in
any of their letters.

Sir Thomas’s mother was a Catesby (a mostly Catholic family), but she
was brought up a Protestant. He was converted to Catholicism by
Robert Parsons in 1580. In 1581 he was summoned before the Council
and committed to the Fleet for harboring Edmond Campion. He was tried
before the Star Chamber and was in custody for seven years.
Afterwards he was constantly in prison for recusancy” (St John Brooks
210)).

`

A group of English nuns at St Ursula’s petitioned in 1609 to separate
from the house and form a new monastery of St Monica’s (which was also
in Louvain as far as I can determine. The names of most of the well-
known Catholic families appear in the chronicles:

Allen,
Neville,
Herbert,

Worthington, Clement, Shirley, Wiseman, Wright,
Kemp,
Crowley, Clitheroe, Roper, Gage, Blundell,

Vaughan, Arundell,
Garnett, Rookwood, Shirley, Clifford, Tichborne, and many more.]
(Hamilton, ed., The Chronicle of St Monica’s, Vol 1, 64-69).

“ . . . . Between 1593 and 1606, twenty-five English ladies were
professed, whose family histories would furnish a large part of the
Catholic annals of that period” (Hamilton, ed., Vol 1, 17).

`

Arden/Greville/Somerville/Willoughby/Kempe/Catesby/Throckmorton/Nevill/
Conway
marriage alliances (See each surname.)

`

“A glance at the family ties of the Bushells, the Throckmortons,
Winters, Sheldons, Catesbys, and Treshams, all leading Catholic
gentry, strongly suggests that the Bushells also held to the old
faith.

This inference is borne out by what is known of the careers of the
two brothers Thomas and Edward Bushell, who matriculated together at
the University of Oxford in November 1582. Both seem to have left the
university, like their half-brother Henry, without having taken a
degree-which also suggests that they were recusants.

The elder brother, Thomas Bushell, about whom little is recorded,
married Margaret, the sister of Sir Edward Greville; in 1609, he was
living the secluded life of a country gentleman at Packwood, to the
north of Stratford.

His younger brother, Edward (later Sir Edward) Bushell, was the more
active and resolute of the two: by 1591, he was a retainer of
Ferdinando Stanley, Lord Strange, later Earl of Derby.

He became one of a group of young Catholic desperados the leaders of
whom-relatives of the Bushells-plotted in 1594 to depose Elizabeth.
The plot was nipped in the bud: both Edward Bushell and
the Catholic Squire Ralph Sheldon of Beoley (brother-in-law of Mary
Arden of Park Hall)
were implicated in the ringleaders’ confessions, and Sheldon was
subjected to a severe interrogation as to whether he maintained
priests or was in communication with Cardinal Allen. Both escaped
unscathed.

Edward Bushell entered the service of the Earl of Essex and fought
together with the Earl of Southampton under Essex’s command in
Ireland. He also took part, with his Catholic cousins Robert Catesby
and Francis Tresham and the Catholic Percys from Northumberland, in
the Essex rebellion of 1601, a political revolt which the Government
chose to regard as a popish plot contrived by Spain” (Mutschmann and
Wentersdorf 121-123).

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Bull, Thomas

An actor who accompanied William Kemp to Denmark on 17 June 1586 to
enter the service of Frederick II at Elsinore (Fripp, Shakespeare, Man
and Artist, 208).

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He (William Kemp) was head (‘Don Gulihelmo’) of the Earl of
Leicester’s players (also, most of them, ‘instrumentister och
springere’) who accompanied his lordship in 1585 to the Low Countries,
and proceeded, on the commendation of their patron (Heywood. Apology
for Actors, 40), to the Court of Denmark (Fripp, Shakespeare, Man and
Artist, 207, 208).

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From London Leicester’s men, with Kemp doubtless at their head but
reduced in number and quality by the absentees abroad, travelled in
the South and West of England, through Warwickshire into Lancashire
and back into Warwickshire. We trace them from Lent to Lammas at
Canterbury, Dover (on 4 March), Southampton, Marlborough, Oxford, Bath
(before June), Exeter, Gloucester, Stratford-upon-Avon, Coventry
(early in July), Leicester, Lathom House (the seat of the Stanleys at
Ormskirk: from Thursday 13 July to Saturday, when a preacher arrived
for Sunday), and again Coventry (on 1 August)

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On 17 June 1586 Kemp, with his apprentice (Daniel Jones) and six
fellows, Thomas Stevens, George Bryan, Thomas King, Thomas Pope,
Robert Percy and Thomas Bull, entered the service for three months of
Frederick II at Elsinore. From Kemp, Bryan and Pope, his fellows of
after-years, Shakespeare would hear of Elsinore and the Danes. That
the Englishmen, notwith­standing their reputation and the eagerness of
the people to hear them (they broke down a wooden fence once in their
desire to do so), did not find their stay altogether congenial is more
than suggested by the disappearance of Bull, in or as a consequence
of a brawl. Kemp received a month’s pay as a parting gift in
September. He and his ‘boy’ soon after returned to England, while the
rest travelled into Germany to sojourn in Dresden for a considerable
time until 17 Ju1y 1587.’ To Kemp, presumably, fell the task of
reorganizing the company at home (hardly visible in the records during
his absence) for their London season 1586-7, and we may safely
conclude that he was their welcome leader in their one Court
performance, at Greenwich on 27 December 1586.


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