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lyra

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Mar 12, 2003, 6:40:50 PM3/12/03
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They're so lovely a visitor at this time of year!

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The leek and the daffodil - both emblems of Wales.
They share the Welsh name Ceninen.


The leek is known to have been displayed as a Welsh emblem in 1536
and in Henry V, Shakespeare acknowledged this as an ancient custom.

One legend tells of a battle between the Welsh and the Saxons fought
in a field of leeks. At some time in the past, the leek was an
important part of the diet but it is not commonly eaten today. It is
delicious when part of the traditional leek and potato soup.

The daffodil has no such claim to literary and historical distinction.
It has become the more favoured emblem of late, however, since some
people find that it makes a more attractive buttonhole on St. David's
day . Daffodils and new-born lambs herald the summer in Wales.

http://www.data-wales.co.uk/l_d.htm


Shakespeare mentions the violet, pansy, primrose, cowslip, oxlip,
daisy, daffodil, rose, dog-rose, lady-smock, lily, marigold,
carnation, and many other trees and shrubs.

http://www.shakespeare-online.com/faq/generalfaq.asp

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It seems to start a new year of gardens and flowers!


Daffydowndilly...

Daffyd own'd "illy"

David owned lily

lyra

lyra

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Mar 12, 2003, 6:45:07 PM3/12/03
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CHAPTER 31

The tray which brought Katharine's cup of tea the next morning
brought, also, a note from her mother, announcing that it was her
intention to catch an early train to Stratford-on-Avon that very day.

"Please find out the best way of getting there," the note ran, "and
wire to dear Sir John Burdett to expect me, with my love. I've been
dreaming all night of you and Shakespeare, dearest Katharine."

This was no momentary impulse. Mrs. Hilbery had been dreaming of
Shakespeare any time these six months, toying with the idea of an
excursion to what she considered the heart of the civilized world. To
stand six feet above Shakespeare's bones, to see the very stones worn
by his feet, to reflect that the oldest man's oldest mother had very
likely seen Shakespeare's daughter--such thoughts roused an emotion in
her, which she expressed at unsuitable moments, and with a passion
that would not have been unseemly in a pilgrim to a sacred shrine. The
only strange thing was that she wished to go by herself. But,
naturally enough, she was well provided with friends who lived in the
neighborhood of Shakespeare's tomb, and were delighted to welcome her;
and she left later to catch her train in the best of spirits. There
was a man selling violets in the street. It was a fine day. She would
remember to send Mr. Hilbery the first daffodil she saw. And, as she
ran back into the hall to tell Katharine, she felt, she had always
felt, that Shakespeare's command to leave his bones undisturbed
applied only to odious curiosity-mongers--not to dear Sir John and
herself. Leaving her daughter to cogitate the theory of Anne
Hathaway's sonnets, and the buried manuscripts here referred to, with
the implied menace to the safety of the heart of civilization itself,
she briskly shut the door of her taxi-cab, and was whirled off upon
the first stage of her pilgrimage.

Night and Day
By Virginia Woolf

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How lovely Spring is!

lyra

Art Neuendorffer

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Mar 12, 2003, 8:22:06 PM3/12/03
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"lyra" <mountai...@RockAthens.com> wrote:

> They're so lovely a visitor at this time of year!
>
> (quote)
>
> The leek and the daffodil - both emblems of Wales.
> They share the Welsh name Ceninen.
>
>
> The leek is known to have been displayed as a Welsh emblem in 1536
> and in Henry V, Shakespeare acknowledged this as an ancient custom.
>
> One legend tells of a battle between the Welsh and the Saxons fought
> in a field of leeks. At some time in the past, the leek was an
> important part of the diet but it is not commonly eaten today. It is
> delicious when part of the traditional leek and potato soup.
>
> The daffodil has no such claim to literary and historical distinction.
> It has become the more favoured emblem of late, however, since some
> people find that it makes a more attractive buttonhole on St. David's
> day . Daffodils and new-born lambs herald the summer in Wales.
>
> http://www.data-wales.co.uk/l_d.htm

----------------------------------------------------------------------
David I, King of Scotland Born 1084;
died at Carlisle, Scotland, on May 24, 1153.
http://users.erols.com/saintpat/ss/0524.htm

<<Saint David was the son of King Malcolm III & Queen Saint Margaret
of Scotland. He was sent to the Norman court in England in 1093.

Ascended to the Scotish throne on April 23, 1124

David established Norman law in Scotland,
set up the office of chancellor, and began the feudal court.

He also learned the spirit of CISTERCIAN MONKS from Ailred of Rievaulx,
who for a time was David's steward. Scottish monasticism began
to flower from the start of David's reign & countless almshouses,
leper-hospitals, and infirmaries were established.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------


> Shakespeare mentions the violet, pansy, primrose, cowslip, oxlip,
> daisy, daffodil, rose, dog-rose, lady-smock, lily, marigold,
> carnation, and many other trees and shrubs.
>
> http://www.shakespeare-online.com/faq/generalfaq.asp
>
> (unquote)
>
> It seems to start a new year of gardens and flowers!
>
>
> Daffydowndilly...
>
> Daffyd own'd "illy"
>
> David owned lily

But Oxford owned Lyly.
--------------------------------------------------------
Harvey called [John] Lyly Oxford's "minion secretary" in 1589,
ten years after Lyly dedicated *Euphues and his England* to [Oxford].
--------------------------------------------------------
PHAEDO

SCENE: The PRISON of Socrates
[Echecrates] Were you yourself, Phaedo, in the PRISON
with Socrates on the day when he drank the poison?
[Phaedo] Yes, Echecrates, I was.
[Ech.] we could not understand why, having been condemned,
he was put to death, as appeared, not at the time,
but long afterwards. What was the reason of this?
[Phaed.] An accident, Echecrates. The reason was that the stern of the
ship which the Athenians send to Delos happened to have been crowned
on the day before he was tried. This is the ship in which, as
the Athenians say, Theseus went to Crete when he took with him
the fourteen youths, and was the saviour of them and of himself.
And they were said to have vowed to Apollo at the time, that if
they were saved they would make an annual pilgrimage to Delos.
Now this custom still continues, and the whole period
of the voyage to and from Delos, beginning when the priest
of Apollo crowns the stern of the ship, is a holy season,
during which the city is not allowed to be polluted
by public executions; and often, when the vessel is detained
by adverse winds, there may be a very considerable delay.
As I was saying, the ship was crowned on the day before the trial,
and this was the reason why Socrates lay in PRISON
and was not put to death until long after he was condemned.
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Gr. 'asfo`delos
--------------------------------------------------------
Asphodel, n. [L. asphodelus, Gr. ?. See {Daffodil}.] (Bot.) A general name
for a plant of the genus {Asphodelus}. The asphodels are hardy perennial
plants, several species of which are cultivated for the beauty of their
flowers.

Note: The name is also popularly given to species of other genera. The
asphodel of the early English and French poets was the daffodil. The
asphodel of the Greek poets is supposed to be the {Narcissus
poeticus}. --Dr. Prior.

Pansies, and violets, and asphodel. --Milton.

Daffodil, n. [OE. affodylle, prop., the asphodel, fr. LL. affodillus (cf. D.
affodille or OF. asphodile, aphodille, F. asphod[`e]le), L. asphodelus, fr.
Gr. 'asfo`delos. The initial d in English is not satisfactorily explained.]
(Bot.) (a) A plant of the genus {Asphodelus}. (b) A plant of the genus
{Narcissus} ({N. Pseudo-narcissus}). It has a bulbous root and beautiful
flowers, usually of a yellow hue.

With damask roses and daffadillies set. --Spenser.

Strow me the ground with daffadowndillies, And cowslips, and kingcups, and
loved lilies. --Spenser.

A college gown That clad her like an April daffodilly. --Tennyson

And chance-sown daffodil. --Whittier.
------------------------------------------------------
The Winter's Tale Act 4, Scene 3

AUTOLYCUS When daffodils begin to PEER,
With heigh! the doxy over the dale,
Why, then comes in the sweet o' the year;
For the red blood reigns in the winter's pale.

My traffic is sheets; when the kite builds, look to
lesser linen. My father named me Autolycus; who
being, as I am, littered under Mercury, was likewise
a snapper-up of unconsidered trifles. With die and
drab I purchased this caparison, and my revenue is
the silly cheat. Gallows and knock are too powerful
on the highway: beating and hanging are terrors to
me: for the life to come, I sleep out the thought
of it. A prize! a prize!

Act 4, Scene 4

PERDITA I would I had some flowers o' the SPRING that might
Become your time of day; and yours, and yours,
That wear upon your virgin branches yet
Your maidenheads growing: O Proserpina,
For the flowers now, that frighted thou let'st fall
From DIS's waggon! daffodils,
That come before the swallow dares, and take
The winds of March with beauty; VIOLETS dim,
But sweeter than the lids of Juno's eyes
Or Cytherea's breath; pale primroses
That die unmarried, ere they can behold
Bight Phoebus in his strength--a malady
Most incident to maids; bold OXLIPS and
The crown imperial; LILIES of all kinds,
The flower-de-luce being one! O, these I lack,
To make you garlands of, and my sweet friend,
To strew him o'er and o'er!
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April 15, 1452, Leonardo da Vinci born.

April 15, 1469, (Sikhs' pere?) Guru Nanak, 1st Sikhs guru, born.

April 15, 1569, Joan Shakspere, christened.

April 15, 1684, Catherine I (not the "Great"), of Russia, born.

April 15, 1741, Colonial painter Charles Willson Peale born.
In addition to George Washington, he did portraits of
many celebrities on both sides of the Atlantic.

April 15, 1770, Joseph Priestley discovers the E(r)ASER
on EAS(t)ER.

April 15, 1800, James Ross, North Magnetic Pole discoverer, born.

April 15, 1802, William & Dorothy Wordsworth were walking near Grasmere
and saw the field of DAFFODILS that led to the former's poem
"I wandered lonely as a cloud."

April 15, 1817, 1st American Deaf school opened in Hartford, Conn.
Chancellor of Oxford, Dr. Benjamin Jowett, born same day:

"My name is Dr. Benjamin Jowett,
and if it's knowledge, I know it.
I am chancellor of this college,
And if I don't know it, it ain't knowledge."

Young Pre-Raphaelite painters were painting the walls of the student
union in Oxford in the 1860s with murals of the Arthurian legends.
(The paintings have since faded.) Dr. Jowett came up to D.G. Rossetti,
the chief painter, and asked, "What would they have done with
the Holy Grail if they had found it?"

April 15, 1843, Anglo-American writer Henry James born in New York.

April 15, 1850, San Francisco incorporated.

April 15, 1860, 1st Pony Express arrives in San Francisco from St Jo.

April 15, 1865, Abraham Lincoln dies.

April 15, 1878, Harley Proctor perfected floating soap, Ivory Soap.

April 15, 1888, Matthew Arnold, the Victorian whose poem "Dover Beach"
best captured the intellectual skepticism that marked the latter part
of the 19th century, died in Liverpool while performing his duties
as a public school inspector.

<<Shortly after midnight of April 15, 1912, the White Star line's most
ambitious vessel, H.M.S. Titanic, almost having completed its maiden
voyage, struck an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank at 2:27 am,
with a loss of lives of over 1200. Even though the name stands today as
a synonym for maritime disaster, it does not make the top-10 list of
fatal shipwrecks. On the same day, Kim Il Sung, North Korean dictator
(1948-1994), was born.>> -- http://www.ntin.net/McDaniel/0415.htm
--------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer


Robert Stonehouse

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:31:58 AM3/14/03
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On 12 Mar 2003 15:40:50 -0800, mountai...@RockAthens.com (lyra)
wrote:
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>One legend tells of a battle between the Welsh and the Saxons fought
>in a field of leeks. At some time in the past, the leek was an
>important part of the diet but it is not commonly eaten today.
>
Available at every greengrocer and supermarket! I have to buy some
tomorrow.

>It is delicious when part of the traditional leek and potato soup.

True. Also in Scotland, cock-a-leekie with chicken, and Scotch broth,
with mutton and many other things.

Do you know of the Northumberland leek-growing contests? Not
traditional; they seem to have arisen in the 1920s, though leeks had
long been a favourite vegetable. The leeks are judged for size and
perfection of form - it is said the taste is rather feeble, especially
for the true monsters.

Alan Jones

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Mar 14, 2003, 3:02:55 AM3/14/03
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At the other extreme, UK supermarkets sell packs of "baby leeks" almost as
thin as pencils, and their "ready meals" (not necessarily soups) often
include leeks. Whether in its own right or as an ingredient, the leek is a
familiar vegetable on British tables and, pace Lyra, is indeed "commonly
eaten today". But I'd rather wear a daffodil for Dewi Sant - even a gourmet
baby leek would be awkward to fit into a buttonhole.

Alan Jones


lyra

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Mar 14, 2003, 6:46:18 PM3/14/03
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Alan Jones wrote in message news:<T0gca.2526$ed....@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Robert Stonehouse wrote:
> > On 12 Mar 2003 15:40:50 -0800, lyra

> > wrote:
> > ...
> >> One legend tells of a battle between the Welsh and the Saxons fought
> >> in a field of leeks. At some time in the past, the leek was an
> >> important part of the diet but it is not commonly eaten today.
> >>
> > Available at every greengrocer and supermarket! I have to buy some
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > Do you know of the Northumberland leek-growing contests? Not
> > traditional; they seem to have arisen in the 1920s, though leeks had
> > long been a favourite vegetable. The leeks are judged for size and
> > perfection of form - it is said the taste is rather feeble, especially
> > for the true monsters.
>
> At the other extreme, UK supermarkets sell packs of "baby leeks" almost as
> thin as pencils, and their "ready meals" (not necessarily soups) often
> include leeks. Whether in its own right or as an ingredient, the leek is a
> familiar vegetable on British tables and, pace Lyra, is indeed "commonly
> eaten today". But I'd rather wear a daffodil for Dewi Sant - even a gourmet
> baby leek would be awkward to fit into a buttonhole.
>
> Alan Jones


Thanks to all, Alan, Robert and Art!


The asphodel (anagrams to)


Poet has held!


lyra


Art Neuendorffer wrote:

(quote)

Gr. 'asfo`delos
--------------------------------------------------------
Asphodel, n. [L. asphodelus, Gr. ?. See {Daffodil}.] (Bot.) A general name
for a plant of the genus {Asphodelus}. The asphodels are hardy perennial
plants, several species of which are cultivated for the beauty of their
flowers.

Note: The name is also popularly given to species of other genera. The
asphodel of the early English and French poets was the daffodil. The
asphodel of the Greek poets is supposed to be the {Narcissus
poeticus}. --Dr. Prior.

Pansies, and violets, and asphodel. --Milton.

Daffodil, n. [OE. affodylle, prop., the asphodel, fr. LL. affodillus (cf. D.
affodille or OF. asphodile, aphodille, F. asphod[`e]le), L. asphodelus, fr.
Gr. 'asfo`delos. The initial d in English is not satisfactorily explained.]
(Bot.) (a) A plant of the genus {Asphodelus}. (b) A plant of the genus
{Narcissus} ({N. Pseudo-narcissus}). It has a bulbous root and beautiful
flowers, usually of a yellow hue.

With damask roses and daffadillies set. --Spenser.

Strow me the ground with daffadowndillies, And cowslips, and kingcups, and
loved lilies. --Spenser.

A college gown That clad her like an April daffodilly. --Tennyson

(unquote)

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