Shakespeare in Love: Points and Quibbles
Neuendorffer
> Wessex is moving to the colony in Virginia, and yet the titles say it's 1593.
> Was this Roanoke? Jamestown wasn't until 1607. Or was this a historical error,
> or perhaps a little bending of the facts?
Roanoke disappeared by 1590. "It's a mystery."
> And Gwyneth Paltrow playing the boy Thomas Kent. Where did she hide her hair?
> NO WAY it could have been hidden under a boy's wig and the collar of her
> doublet, not without a prosthesis like a Ferringi or Klingon headpiece. I'll
> bet they shot the film out of sequence, did the rest early with her hair long,
> and then cut it off before shooting those scenes...
Plus the occasional use of a long blonde wig.
Art
Lstuder
time to go see 1 movie.
And I have mostly stayed out of the threads onthe film, as I didn't know what I
was talking about, so forgive me if I thrash over old ground.
First, I loved it- it's worth every word written about it, every dollar it cost
to make, the price of the ticket, hot dogs, and soda. It deserves the
nominations it got for Golden Globes, Oscars-- it deserves to win...
Now a couple of points-
I loved the showbiz, inside joke , Tom Stoppard bits-- the waiter at the Inn
reciting the special of the day, the ego-centrism of the actors ( " It's a play
about this Nurse..."), the actor cast because he's somebody's nephew, the stage
struck financier so insecure and wrapped up in his lines, the reliance on " the
miracle of Theatre." These are cliches, or perhaps truths, about modern actors,
and modern theatre. Stoppard suggests that actors and showbiz people have
always been that way, which makes for great humor.
Romeo and Juliet- I was surprised by my reactions to the scenes, even cut up,
and even though I knew the lines and knew what was coming. I wound up crying by
the end of the death scene. Ges to show how strong the play is, even
fragmented, when played by actors who work at it.
and now a couple of quibbles:
Wessix is moving to the colony in Virginia, and yet the titles say it's 1593.
Was this Roanoke? Jamestown wasn't until 1607. Or was this a historical error,
or perhaps a little bending of the facts?
And Gwyneth Paltrow playing the boy Thomas Kent. Where did she hide her hair?
NO WAY it could have been hidden under a boy's wig and the collar of her
doublet, not without a prosthesis like a Ferringi or Klingon headpiece. I'll
bet they shot the film out of sequence, did the rest early with her hair long,
and then cut it off before shooting those scenes...
LArry (Lstuder @ aol.com)
Kevin Clow
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> Romeo and Juliet- I was surprised by my reactions to the scenes, even cut up,
> and even though I knew the lines and knew what was coming. I wound up crying by
> the end of the death scene. Ges to show how strong the play is, even
> fragmented, when played by actors who work at it.
amen. when a play can make you cry, that's impressive. when a movie
can make you cry, that's also impressive. when a movie of a play
(double fiction) can make you cry... wow! okay, so i didn't cry, but i
almost did, and if i did i wouldn't have been ashamed.
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>Wessix is moving to the colony in Virginia, and yet the titles say it's 1593.
>Was this Roanoke? Jamestown wasn't until 1607. Or was this a historical error,
>or perhaps a little bending of the facts?
It must be Roanoke. Raleigh's first voyage 1584, naming the place
Virginia after the queen, second voyage and first colony 1585,
colony failed and colonists returned 1586, a London syndicate leased
Raleigh's rights and sent second colony 1587, found deserted 1591
following neglect during 1588-9 (Spanish Armada). Nothing more was
done at that time, but it may be plausible to assume it was talked
of.
ew...@bcs.org.uk
Neuendorffer
Raleigh's Second (1587) Virginia (Lost) Colony was to have been along
the Chesapeake Bay but the sailors (led by former Portuguese pirate
Simon Fenandez) dumped them off a the old (failed) Roanoke site. When
Governor White returned in 1590 all had disappeared. In the ORIGINAL
1941 novel _No Bed for Bacon_ [by Doris Abrahams and S. J. Simon] Sir
Francis Drake wishes Essex to start a new (Third?) "Virginia" colony.
[It was ESSEX (not Wessex) who coveted Viola Compton.]
Art Neuendorffer
Lstuder
historical, research error, intentional or otherwise...
LArry
LArry (Lstuder @ aol.com)