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marco
May 11, 2013, 6:01:41 PM5/11/13
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DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague/20086.html
marc
This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague/20086.html
marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 12, 2013, 4:50:37 AM5/12/13
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On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
>
>
> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
> Elizabeth writes:
> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
>
>
> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague/20086.html
>
>
>
>
>
> marc
John W Kennedy
May 12, 2013, 1:41:28 PM5/12/13
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here. The only new discovery is that we now know for sure that it was
the same disease as the Black Plague of the 14th century and the modern
Bubonic Plague.
--
John W Kennedy
"Information is light. Information, in itself, about anything, is light."
-- Tom Stoppard. "Night and Day"
David L. Webb
May 12, 2013, 1:44:13 PM5/12/13
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In article <d92e6151-7e18-4f8d...@googlegroups.com>,
Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
*anything* right!
Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
she remains resolutely ineducable.
> > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
> > /20086.html
> >
> >
> > marc
"neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
> >
> > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
> > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
> > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
> Elizabeth writes:
> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
> >
> > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
> > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
> > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
> Elizabeth writes:
> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
*anything* right!
Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
she remains resolutely ineducable.
> > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
> > /20086.html
> >
> >
> > marc
John W Kennedy
May 12, 2013, 2:15:50 PM5/12/13
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On 2013-05-12 08:50:37 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>>
>>
>>
>> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>>
>> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>>
>> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>>
>> Elizabeth writes:
>>
>> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>>
>> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>>
>> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
The Plague of Justinian was A.D. 541-542. Ovid lived five hundred years
> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>>
>>
>>
>> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>>
>> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>>
>> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>>
>> Elizabeth writes:
>>
>> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>>
>> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>>
>> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
before that. And he wasn't fleeing any plague when he was exiled by
order of the Emperor Augustus. And he was exiled to Tomis (now
Constanta) in present-day Romania, not Yugoslavia. And Yugoslavia
didn't even exist in the time of Augustus, didn't exist in the time of
Justinian, and doesn't exist today, either. (It hardly could have
existed in Roman times, since it means "the land of the southern
Slavs", and there were no Slavs in the Balkans back then.) And no Roman
would have tried to escape the Plague of Justinian by running toward it.
Don't you discriminate at all?
--
John W Kennedy
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on rats.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on rats.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on rats.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on rats.
-- Amy Burvall, Herb Mahelona, and Gwen Stefani: "The Black Death"
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 12, 2013, 8:08:10 PM5/12/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I've scrolled down and poor Dave seems to have a fish bone
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> stuck in his throat so I'll just cruise overr to the next thread.
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 13, 2013, 9:18:30 PM5/13/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> Webb, are you even aware that you repeat yourself over and over?
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> How many times have you written "Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> "anything" right! and how many times have I laughed my ass off?
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Oh yes, thanks Webb, it's coming back to me, I guess it doesn't
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
>
> pay to stay away from HLAS for years on end.
>
> On the other hand, certain posters in HLAS are intolerable,
>
> and I'm referring directly to you, Webb.
>
>
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> I've nailed you, Webb, you're a favorite son of Tennesee,
>
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> which is probably located in Upper Appalachia, as bad
>
> as it gets.
>
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
> Eliz writes: statement made by David Webb, who was, at least lately,
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> a professor at Dartmouth College.
>
>
>
> Webb. Google has a new anti-harassment policy which involves
>
> the Report Abuse button at the top of the page.
>
> You, Webb, have left the largest record of abusing other posters
>
> and it's all sealed in print on the pages of HLAS. You are sick, you
>
> have no empathy, you've harassed Art, Stephanie Caruana,
>
> Crowley, you're a serial harasser, stay out of my posts.
>
> If you want to challenge any of this, the testimony of other
>
> posters is sealed in HLAS posts going back to the beginning.
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 13, 2013, 11:00:14 PM5/13/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> In article
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Well, trying being away from HLAS for seven years, Webb,
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> and coming back without any notes.
>
> You're obviously reading from something, probably
>
> one of my old posts.
>
> I don't know what in the hell is wrong with you, you
>
> specialize in harassing other posters, the way you
>
> treated Stephanie Caruana was really digusting to
>
> many in HLAS. I don't know how Art puts up with
>
> you.
marco
May 14, 2013, 12:20:53 AM5/14/13
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> > Elizabeth writes:
> I don't know how Art puts up with me
anti WS nuts like other anti WS nuts, i guess
marc
> I don't know how Art puts up with me
anti WS nuts like other anti WS nuts, i guess
marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 17, 2013, 9:10:34 AM5/17/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
> In article
>
>
> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
>
> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
>
> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
> NOTE: WEBB HAS BEEN TO WIKIPEDIA SO HE'S ALL HET UP:
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> WEBB, I ONLY MODEL MY IMPERFECTIONS TO MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD,
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> AND BELIEVE ME, THAT IS NOT EASY.
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> THE REASON, WEBB, THAT OVID WENT TO YUGOSLAVIA (A DIVIDED
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
>
> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
>
> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> YOU CAN'T GET CIVILITY RIGHT, WEBB, YOU'RE A HOPELESS OAF.
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
> Oh, blow it out your posterior, Webb, you're a perfect bore.
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 17, 2013, 9:13:30 AM5/17/13
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On Monday, May 13, 2013 9:20:53 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > I don't know how Art puts up with me
>
> Gawd, you're so desperate for attention, it's really irritating.
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > I don't know how Art puts up with me
>
John W Kennedy
May 17, 2013, 11:01:40 AM5/17/13
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On 2013-05-17 13:10:34 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
>> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
>> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
>> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
>> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
The Lizzietron 2013 needs to be rebooted; that one was too irrational
>> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
>> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
>> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
>> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
even for her.
>> THE REASON, WEBB, THAT OVID WENT TO YUGOSLAVIA (A DIVIDED
>> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
>> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
>> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
Now all we have to deal with is that:
A) Yugoslavia did not exist at the time. It did not exist until after
World War I.
B) Ovid was not exiled there, anyway. He was exiled to a city that is
now in Romania.
C) We do not know why Ovid was exiled.
--
John W Kennedy
"...when you're trying to build a house of cards, the last thing you
should do is blow hard and wave your hands like a madman."
-- Rupert Goodwins
marco
May 18, 2013, 2:06:59 PM5/18/13
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neonprose @ gmail.com
May 19, 2013, 5:33:28 AM5/19/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> In article
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> I CAN GET CIVILITY RIGHT, WEBB, YOU CANNOT.
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> I returned to the map of Yugoslavia, the Roman Army decided not to
>
> invade, so they left the north to the Slavs and the South to the Yugos.
>
> This was the worst plague to that point in human history, it killed in
>
> the hundreds of millions, Wikipedia has an extensive article on the
>
> Romans and Yugoslavia and why they decided to leave it and go home
>
> to Rome. There is a marble statute of Ovid in the town square in I forget
>
> which Yugoslavian city. Treiste?
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Webb, you've taken on the characteristics of a parrot, you write the
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> same old crap in post after post. You have no "infinite variety" Webb,
>
> you're just a boring nuisance.
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> See "characteristics of a parrot above."
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> I always have to run into the bathroom to barf.
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 19, 2013, 5:38:32 AM5/19/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> In article
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
> Well I do know that the Romans decided to abandon Yugoslavia
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
> when the plague was at its height.
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> Oh thank you for that correction, Webb, as in who gives a rap.
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> My god, is there a parrot in here? Ohh, that's just Webb caught in
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> a repetitious brain loop that goes round and around and around.
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Yawn.
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 19, 2013, 5:48:50 AM5/19/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> In article
>
> In article
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome. By the way,
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
>
> > there's a marble statute of Ovid in the public square at Thomas,
>
> >
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> > Webb. Do you think you can cough up that parrot or should we take
> >
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> > you to the veterinarian emergency clinic?
>
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Well, Ovid got caught with his toga in a knot, he was sleeping with
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus. In
>
> fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
>
> uhh, I think the young woman was Augustus' daughter, Ovid had
>
> to leave Rome and much has been written of the desolate feelings
>
> of Romans who have been exhiled from the Eternal City.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> I would respond that "I've got you right," but that's kind of icky,
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> so I'll just say that the parrot you swallowed is afraid of the dark.
>
>
> Well, the plague was boiling over in Rome at the time, Ovid left
>
> town because Augustus caught him with his uhhh toga down,
>
> in bed with uhhh, Augustus' daughter?
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
> I hate to break it to you Webb, but you were born a perfect bore
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> and to this day you're still a bore, I guess it's a case of "once a
>
> bore always a bore" or at least that's what they say in Tennesee.
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 19, 2013, 5:53:29 AM5/19/13
to
On Monday, May 13, 2013 9:20:53 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > I didn't write anything of the sort, stay out of my posts.
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 19, 2013, 6:01:26 AM5/19/13
to
On Friday, May 17, 2013 8:01:40 AM UTC-7, John W Kennedy wrote:
> On 2013-05-17 13:10:34 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
>
> >> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
>
> >> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
>
> >> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
>
> >> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
>
> >> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
>
> >> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
>
> >> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
>
>
>
>
> >> THE REASON, WEBB, THAT OVID WENT TO YUGOSLAVIA (A DIVIDED
>
> >> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
>
> >> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
>
> >> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
>
>
>
> So you admit you're wrong about him trying to escape the plague? Good.
>
> Now all we have to deal with is that:
>
>
>
> A) Yugoslavia did not exist at the time. It did not exist until after
>
> World War I.
>
> The Wikipedia article has the Roman Army at the ports of
>
> >> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
>
> >> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
>
> >> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
>
>
>
> So you admit you're wrong about him trying to escape the plague? Good.
>
> Now all we have to deal with is that:
>
>
>
> A) Yugoslavia did not exist at the time. It did not exist until after
>
> World War I.
>
>
> Slavia (see the map) and Yugo (two independent territories)
>
> with the Roman Army pondering whether it wanted to be
>
> devastated. It named the territory "Yugo/Slavia and then left
>
> for Rome.
>
> B) Ovid was not exiled there, anyway. He was exiled to a city that is
>
> now in Romania.
>
>
>
> C) We do not know why Ovid was exiled.
>
> He was fooling around with Augustus' daughter, or some
> B) Ovid was not exiled there, anyway. He was exiled to a city that is
>
> now in Romania.
>
>
>
> C) We do not know why Ovid was exiled.
>
>
> other woman Augustus had his eye on, so Augustus
>
> exhiled Ovid.
marco
May 19, 2013, 12:34:26 PM5/19/13
to
David L. Webb
May 19, 2013, 4:18:23 PM5/19/13
to
In article <906f3249-4dbf-4ab4...@googlegroups.com>,
"ARGUMENTS" SO MUCH MORE PERSUASIVE. However, there is at least *some*
virtue in it -- since you evidently cannot post without destroying the
automatically supplied quotation hierarchy, at least the practice
distinguishes your words from those of your interlocutors -- not that
your incompetent English did not already achieve the same end.
Incidentally, by the your 400, Ovid had already been dead for
centuries. You just cannot get *anything* right!
> THE REASON, WEBB, THAT OVID WENT TO YUGOSLAVIA
He didn't. Ovid was exiled to the other side of the peninsula, to
Tomis, in what is now Romania. You just cannot get *anything* right!
> (A DIVIDED
> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
It is not known why Ovid was exiled.
> > So you admit you're wrong about him trying to escape the plague? Good.
> > Now all we have to deal with is that:
> >
> > A) Yugoslavia did not exist at the time. It did not exist until after
> > World War I.
> The Wikipedia article has the Roman Army at the ports of
> Slavia (see the map) and Yugo (two independent territories)
Rubbish. "Yugo" is simply the adjectival form of the Slavic root
"yug", which means south in virtually all Slavic tongues. From the
Wikipedia article:
"The Kingdom of Yugoslavia, which before 3 October 1929 was known
as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was established on
1 December 1918 by the union of the State of Slovenes, Croats and
Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia (the Kingdom of Montenegro was
annexed on 13 November 1918, and the Conference of Ambassadors
in Paris gave international recognition to the union on 13 July
1922)."
In case you're keeping track, 1 December 1918 is a *long* time after the
fall of the Roman Empire, although that fact may well be news to you.
> with the Roman Army pondering whether it wanted to be
> devastated. It named the territory "Yugo/Slavia and then left
> for Rome.
It did nothing of the kind.
> > B) Ovid was not exiled there, anyway. He was exiled to a city that is
> > now in Romania.
> >
> > C) We do not know why Ovid was exiled.
> He was fooling around with Augustus' daughter, or some
> other woman Augustus had his eye on, so Augustus
> exhiled Ovid.
No, John is quite right. Historians have never established the cause
of Ovid's exile. See the Wikipedia article "Exile of Ovid":
"The exile of Ovid, Latin poet of the Roman Empire, is one of the
most mysterious events of what is now called Classical antiquity.
Traditionally, it is known that in the year 8 CE the poet was
banished from Rome to Tomis (now Constanca, Romania),
[Note: What is now Romania, *not* Yugoslavia -- neither nation even
existed in the Augustan Age.]
"on the shores of the Black Sea, by decree of the emperor Augustus,
but for reasons never definitively answered.[1] The whole experience
of exile is mentioned only by Ovid himself, except a few words by
Pliny the Elder and Stachys. At this time, Tomis was a remote town
on the edge of the civilized world, beyond the Danube, loosely
under the authority of the kingdom of Thrace (a satellite state
of Rome), superficially Hellenized, and where no one, according
to Ovid, could understand a word of Latin. He wrote that the cause
of his own exile was carmen et error "a poem and a mistake", but
critics' interpretation of both factors are widely divergent."
In fact, one suggestion for the cause of Ovid's banishment was his
authorship of _Ars Amatoria_. In fact, the same Wikipedia article lists
various other conjectures concerning the reason for Augustus's action as
well:
--------------------------------------
Moreover, what was the Ovid's mistake? There are many hypotheses for the
scholars, including:
have attended some circles of opposition to the emperor, as that of
Fabius Maximus;
have gone to the house of Augustus at the time that, after learning
of a disaster, suffered an attack of cholera so horrible that Ovid would
ridicule the emperor in epigrams of clandestine movement;
have discovered the incest Augustus had with his daughter Julia;
have been witness to the adultery of Julia;
have conspired with Fabius Maximus to restore the right of
succession imperial Posthumus Agrippa, grandson of Augustus, among
others.
--------------------------------------
You just cannot get *ANYTHING* right.
> On Friday, May 17, 2013 8:01:40 AM UTC-7, John W Kennedy wrote:
> > On 2013-05-17 13:10:34 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
> >
> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
WHY DON'T YOU SHOUT IN ALL UPPERCASE FOR A CHANGE? IT MAKES YOUR
> > On 2013-05-17 13:10:34 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
> >
> IN THIS POST, WEBB WILL GO OFF ABOUT OVID IN YUGOSLAVIA,
> JUST IGNORE HIM, THE ROMAN ARMY SOLVED THE PROBLEM MORE
> THAN FOUR MILENNIA AGO BY SIMPLY DECLARING THE DATE
> (YEAR 400) AND THEN HEADING HOME TO ROME.
"ARGUMENTS" SO MUCH MORE PERSUASIVE. However, there is at least *some*
virtue in it -- since you evidently cannot post without destroying the
automatically supplied quotation hierarchy, at least the practice
distinguishes your words from those of your interlocutors -- not that
your incompetent English did not already achieve the same end.
Incidentally, by the your 400, Ovid had already been dead for
centuries. You just cannot get *anything* right!
> THE REASON, WEBB, THAT OVID WENT TO YUGOSLAVIA
Tomis, in what is now Romania. You just cannot get *anything* right!
> (A DIVIDED
> COUNTRY) IS THAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN STRANGLED
> IN HIS BATH FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A WOMAN THE
> EMPEROR ADMIRED.
> > So you admit you're wrong about him trying to escape the plague? Good.
> > Now all we have to deal with is that:
> >
> > A) Yugoslavia did not exist at the time. It did not exist until after
> > World War I.
> The Wikipedia article has the Roman Army at the ports of
> Slavia (see the map) and Yugo (two independent territories)
"yug", which means south in virtually all Slavic tongues. From the
Wikipedia article:
"The Kingdom of Yugoslavia, which before 3 October 1929 was known
as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was established on
1 December 1918 by the union of the State of Slovenes, Croats and
Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia (the Kingdom of Montenegro was
annexed on 13 November 1918, and the Conference of Ambassadors
in Paris gave international recognition to the union on 13 July
1922)."
In case you're keeping track, 1 December 1918 is a *long* time after the
fall of the Roman Empire, although that fact may well be news to you.
> with the Roman Army pondering whether it wanted to be
> devastated. It named the territory "Yugo/Slavia and then left
> for Rome.
> > B) Ovid was not exiled there, anyway. He was exiled to a city that is
> > now in Romania.
> >
> > C) We do not know why Ovid was exiled.
> He was fooling around with Augustus' daughter, or some
> other woman Augustus had his eye on, so Augustus
> exhiled Ovid.
of Ovid's exile. See the Wikipedia article "Exile of Ovid":
"The exile of Ovid, Latin poet of the Roman Empire, is one of the
most mysterious events of what is now called Classical antiquity.
Traditionally, it is known that in the year 8 CE the poet was
banished from Rome to Tomis (now Constanca, Romania),
[Note: What is now Romania, *not* Yugoslavia -- neither nation even
existed in the Augustan Age.]
"on the shores of the Black Sea, by decree of the emperor Augustus,
but for reasons never definitively answered.[1] The whole experience
of exile is mentioned only by Ovid himself, except a few words by
Pliny the Elder and Stachys. At this time, Tomis was a remote town
on the edge of the civilized world, beyond the Danube, loosely
under the authority of the kingdom of Thrace (a satellite state
of Rome), superficially Hellenized, and where no one, according
to Ovid, could understand a word of Latin. He wrote that the cause
of his own exile was carmen et error "a poem and a mistake", but
critics' interpretation of both factors are widely divergent."
In fact, one suggestion for the cause of Ovid's banishment was his
authorship of _Ars Amatoria_. In fact, the same Wikipedia article lists
various other conjectures concerning the reason for Augustus's action as
well:
--------------------------------------
Moreover, what was the Ovid's mistake? There are many hypotheses for the
scholars, including:
have attended some circles of opposition to the emperor, as that of
Fabius Maximus;
have gone to the house of Augustus at the time that, after learning
of a disaster, suffered an attack of cholera so horrible that Ovid would
ridicule the emperor in epigrams of clandestine movement;
have discovered the incest Augustus had with his daughter Julia;
have been witness to the adultery of Julia;
have conspired with Fabius Maximus to restore the right of
succession imperial Posthumus Agrippa, grandson of Augustus, among
others.
--------------------------------------
You just cannot get *ANYTHING* right.
marco
May 19, 2013, 11:26:33 PM5/19/13
to
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 3:05:10 AM5/24/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> >
> >
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> YOU, Webb, cannot get ordinary civility right. I dread paging forward
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> in this forum, hoping I won't be met by some sour remarks coming
>
> from you.
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 3:06:13 AM5/24/13
to
On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 7:32:59 AM5/24/13
to
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 7:49:20 AM5/24/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
>,
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me, aren't you an academic? Why are you
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> castigating me, we learn through experience.
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
>
> Secondly, I believe you're in error, Augustus exiled Ovid because
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
>
>
> Ovid was in love with the same young woman desired by Augustus
>
> and Augustus couldn't compete.
>
> In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation
>
> In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Webb, you're making a loon of yourself, repeating the same thing
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> overe and overe.
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Well, you need to check Wikipedia, it has some paragraphs on
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> the fact that the Roman Army didn't know whether to invade
>
> the north or the south so the Romans decided that it was
>
> just a waste of time and resources, turned around and went
>
> home to Rome. You can check this out in Wikipedia.
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
> And you have written EXACTLY the same sentence above, you
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> keep *repeatedly" repeating it. I think you have a problem with
>
> the tendency to select words from your limited vocabulary, which
>
> you resort to over and over.
>
> Well, at least I was educated in a string of really good schools,
>
> the James Conan Bryant School, the U of W, Evergreen State,
>
> and honest to god, Webb, in all those experiences, I never
>
> I never met a more boorish academic than you. I bet your
>
> on meds.
>
> I never, ever, take medications, I'm never sick, I apparently
>
> inherited a healthy constitution.
>
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 7:56:42 AM5/24/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
> You can't get civility right, Webb, but I suppose it has something
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> > >
>
> > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
>
>
> > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
>
> Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
>
> before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
>
> *anything* right!
>
>
> to do with Tennesee and Appalachia so there's probably no
>
> going back.
>
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
>
> Webb, try to pay attention, I wrote that above.
> Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
>
> disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
>
>
> In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> Well, at least he directed his desolation and loneliness into poetry
> In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation and
>
> loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
>
> Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> but I would'nt expect that of you.
>
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
> My god, is there a parrot in here? Check behind the drapes.
> Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
>
> or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
>
> rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
>
> Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
>
>
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
> Well, Webb, I've been trying to educate you since you first started
> Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
>
> she remains resolutely ineducable.
>
>
> in on Art in your rude, crude and loathesome mistreatment of Art
>
> and I'm please to report that Art has trumped you, Webb, you're
>
> now Art's little lap dog.
>
> > > http://vr-zone.com/articles/dna-analysis-reveals-cause-of-6th-century-plague
>
> > > /20086.html
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > marc
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 7:58:59 AM5/24/13
to
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:15:50 AM UTC-7, John W Kennedy wrote:
> On 2013-05-12 08:50:37 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> >>
>
> >> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> >>
>
> >> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
> >>
>
> >> Elizabeth writes:
>
> >>
>
> >> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> >>
>
> >> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> >>
>
> >> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Plague of Justinian was A.D. 541-542. Ovid lived five hundred years
>
> before that. And he wasn't fleeing any plague when he was exiled by
>
> order of the Emperor Augustus. And he was exiled to Tomis (now
>
> Constanta) in present-day Romania, not Yugoslavia. And Yugoslavia
>
> didn't even exist in the time of Augustus, didn't exist in the time of
>
> Justinian, and doesn't exist today, either. (It hardly could have
>
> existed in Roman times, since it means "the land of the southern
>
> Slavs", and there were no Slavs in the Balkans back then.) And no Roman
>
> would have tried to escape the Plague of Justinian by running toward it.
>
> Liz writes:
> On 2013-05-12 08:50:37 +0000, neonprose @ gmail.com said:
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >> DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
>
> >>
>
> >> killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
>
> >>
>
> >> suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
>
> >>
>
> >> Elizabeth writes:
>
> >>
>
> >> Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
>
> >>
>
> >> simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
>
> >>
>
> >> was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
>
>
>
> The Plague of Justinian was A.D. 541-542. Ovid lived five hundred years
>
> before that. And he wasn't fleeing any plague when he was exiled by
>
> order of the Emperor Augustus. And he was exiled to Tomis (now
>
> Constanta) in present-day Romania, not Yugoslavia. And Yugoslavia
>
> didn't even exist in the time of Augustus, didn't exist in the time of
>
> Justinian, and doesn't exist today, either. (It hardly could have
>
> existed in Roman times, since it means "the land of the southern
>
> Slavs", and there were no Slavs in the Balkans back then.) And no Roman
>
> would have tried to escape the Plague of Justinian by running toward it.
>
>
> According to Wikipedia and its colorful maps, Yugoslavia does, in fact,
>
> exist today.
marco
May 24, 2013, 10:18:49 AM5/24/13
to
Liz writes:
According to Wikipedia and its colorful maps, Yugoslavia does, in fact,
exist today.
Oo-ooh, fleas on Arts - I mean rats, fleas on Arts - I mean rats.
According to Wikipedia and its colorful maps, Yugoslavia does, in fact,
exist today.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on Arts - I mean rats.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on Arts - I mean rats.
Oo-ooh, fleas on rats, fleas on Arts - I mean rats.
neonprose @ gmail.com
May 27, 2013, 4:23:25 AM5/27/13
to
On Monday, May 13, 2013 9:20:53 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
> > > One posting box per customer, don't start writing my
> > > Elizabeth writes:
>
>
> > > posts for me.
>
> > > Thank you very much.
> >
>
>
>
>
> marc
David L. Webb
Jun 5, 2013, 4:09:37 PM6/5/13
to
In article <670866f5-8cbf-44f2...@googlegroups.com>,
emperor Claudius, as Elizabeth has absurdly claimed, but by Augustus.
Elizabeth is off by more than a quarter century! Moreover, his place of
exile was not what is now or what was ever Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has
also claimed; rather, Ovid lived out the rest of days in Tomis, on the
Black Sea, in what is now Romania. That is, of course, the *other side*
of the peninsula from Yugoslavia, which is on the Adriatic coast --
indeed, the distance from Ovid's place of exile to Belgrade is over 400
miles! Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right.
> > The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
> > Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
> > before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
> > *anything* right!
> Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me, aren't you an academic? Why are you
> castigating me, we learn through experience.
Elizabeth evidently has not learned *anything* from her myriad
blunders -- not only does she keep repeating the old ones, but she adds
new ones all the time.
> > Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
> > disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
> Secondly, I believe you're in error, Augustus exiled Ovid because
> Ovid was in love with the same young woman desired by Augustus
> and Augustus couldn't compete.
Huh? I'm in error how? I made no claims concerning the reasons for
Ovid's exile. In fact, the reason is not known, and it has been cause
for much speculation and debate among historians.
> > In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation
> > loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
> > Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
> Webb, you're making a loon of yourself, repeating the same thing
> overe [sic] and overe [sic].
That's only because Elizabeth keeps repeating the same errors over
and over.
> > Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
> > or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
> > rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
> > Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
> Well, you need to check Wikipedia,
There are more authoritative references than Wikipedia.
> it has some paragraphs on
> the fact that the Roman Army didn't know whether to invade
> the north or the south so the Romans decided that it was
> just a waste of time and resources, turned around and went
> home to Rome. You can check this out in Wikipedia.
...none of which contradicts *anything* I said above! Indeed, it has
no bearing whatever upon what I wrote. The Wikipedia article does *not*
claim that Yugoslavia is, or ever was, on coast of the Black Sea. Is
Elizabeth unable to understand even the simple, pedestrian English of
Wikipedia?!
> > Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
> > she remains resolutely ineducable.
> And you have written EXACTLY the same sentence above, you
> keep *repeatedly" repeating it.
Sadly, it remains as true as ever.
> I think you have a problem with
> the tendency to select words from your limited vocabulary, which
> you resort to over and over.
Thank goodness my vocabulary is limited! I'm grateful that it
doesn't contain words like "tercentary", "primative", "disceased",
"hydrolic", "botinist", "insistance", "recussal", "buzzom", "supeona",
"institigated", and the many scores of other coinages that so enrich
Elizabeth's vocabulary.
> Well, at least I was educated in a string of really good schools,
> the James Conan Bryant School, the U of W, Evergreen State,
> and honest to god, Webb, in all those experiences, I never
> I never met a more boorish academic than you. I bet your [sic]
All those "really good schools" evidently never succeeded in teaching
Elizabeth the difference between "your" and "you're", but one can hardly
blame them.
> on meds.
Elizabeth is wrong again -- she just cannot get *anything* right.
"neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> >
> > "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> >
> > > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
> > > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
> > > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
> > > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
> > > Elizabeth writes:
> > > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
> > > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
> > > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
On the contrary -- Ovid was banished from Rome, but not by the
> On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, nordicskiv2 wrote:
> >
> > "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> >
> > > > DNA analysis reveals cause of 6th century plague.
> > > > This pandemic, named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I,
> > > > killed more than 100 million people. Some historians have even
> > > > suggested it contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.
> > > Elizabeth writes:
> > > Indeed it did. I recall posting on this topic, a lot of Romans
> > > simply fled to what is today Yugoslavia. Ovid the Roman poet,
> > > was one of the Romans who got out of Rome.
emperor Claudius, as Elizabeth has absurdly claimed, but by Augustus.
Elizabeth is off by more than a quarter century! Moreover, his place of
exile was not what is now or what was ever Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has
also claimed; rather, Ovid lived out the rest of days in Tomis, on the
Black Sea, in what is now Romania. That is, of course, the *other side*
of the peninsula from Yugoslavia, which is on the Adriatic coast --
indeed, the distance from Ovid's place of exile to Belgrade is over 400
miles! Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right.
> > The Justinianic Plague lasted between the 6th and 8th centuries A.D.
> > Ovid lived from 43 B.C. until 18 A.D.; thus he died *half a millennium*
> > before the onset of the plague in question! Elizabeth just cannot get
> > *anything* right!
> Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me, aren't you an academic? Why are you
> castigating me, we learn through experience.
blunders -- not only does she keep repeating the old ones, but she adds
new ones all the time.
> > Second, Ovid emphatically did not flee Rome to avoid a contagious
> > disease -- rather, he was exiled from Rome by the Emperor Augustus.
> Secondly, I believe you're in error, Augustus exiled Ovid because
> Ovid was in love with the same young woman desired by Augustus
> and Augustus couldn't compete.
Ovid's exile. In fact, the reason is not known, and it has been cause
for much speculation and debate among historians.
> > In fact, Ovid spent the rest of his life expressing his desolation
> > loneliness, and hoping in vain for his banishment to be rescinded.
> > Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
> Webb, you're making a loon of yourself, repeating the same thing
That's only because Elizabeth keeps repeating the same errors over
and over.
> > Moreover, Ovid's place of exile, Tomis, is not located in what is now
> > or what has ever been Yugoslavia, as Elizabeth has previously claimed;
> > rather, Tomis is situated on the Black Sea. It is now Constanta,
> > Romania. Elizabeth just cannot get *anything* right!
> Well, you need to check Wikipedia,
> it has some paragraphs on
> the fact that the Roman Army didn't know whether to invade
> the north or the south so the Romans decided that it was
> just a waste of time and resources, turned around and went
> home to Rome. You can check this out in Wikipedia.
no bearing whatever upon what I wrote. The Wikipedia article does *not*
claim that Yugoslavia is, or ever was, on coast of the Black Sea. Is
Elizabeth unable to understand even the simple, pedestrian English of
Wikipedia?!
> > Finally, Elizabeth has been corrected on this point *repeatedly*, yet
> > she remains resolutely ineducable.
> And you have written EXACTLY the same sentence above, you
> keep *repeatedly" repeating it.
> I think you have a problem with
> the tendency to select words from your limited vocabulary, which
> you resort to over and over.
doesn't contain words like "tercentary", "primative", "disceased",
"hydrolic", "botinist", "insistance", "recussal", "buzzom", "supeona",
"institigated", and the many scores of other coinages that so enrich
Elizabeth's vocabulary.
> Well, at least I was educated in a string of really good schools,
> the James Conan Bryant School, the U of W, Evergreen State,
> and honest to god, Webb, in all those experiences, I never
All those "really good schools" evidently never succeeded in teaching
Elizabeth the difference between "your" and "you're", but one can hardly
blame them.
> on meds.
Elizabeth is wrong again -- she just cannot get *anything* right.
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