More info from BBC on "Much Ado" Marlowe/Shakespeare film
lyra
as I can't view it (on
Tuesday 23 April)
I found this interesting page...
(the stuff after this is quotes from it)
Much Ado director Mike Rubbo
MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
Australian director Mike Rubbo offers a compelling examination of the
authenticity of Shakespeare's work.
An impressive collection of academics, actors and eccentrics line-up
to join the entertaining debate.
DIRECTOR'S NOTES
Mike Rubbo explains what drove him to explore the Marlowe conspiracy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/storyville/mike_rubbo.shtml
Mike Rubbo
MESSAGE BOARD
Much ado about nothing, or a sinister conspiracy?
Post your thoughts
Storyville message board
Storyville opening credits
Further Links
(External) Much Ado About Something
Great site with loads on the various people interviewed in the film
http://www.muchadoaboutsomething.com/
(External) Mike Rubbo, Village Artist
He doesn't just make films. Very intriguing
http://www.cust.idl.net.au/rubbo/
(External) The Marlowe Society
Stacks on Marlowe, some of it conspiratorial
http://www.marlowe-society.org/
(External) Peter Farey's Marlowe Page
Marlowe's complete works from one of the film's interviewees
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/index.htm
(External) Shakespeare's Unorthodox Biography
Various theories on the authorship debate
http://www.shakespeare-authorship.com/
The BBC is not responsible for the content of external websites
Nick Fraser
Commissioner's Comment
Nick Fraser
Storyville Series Editor
I like Much Ado About Something because Mike Rubbo has the brass to
take on the most cherished English myth - that of our genius bard of
Stratford, William Shakespeare. Rubbo is convinced that the smalltown
voice of Stratford didn't write the greatest masterpieces of
literature.
His film is devoted to undermining the claim of the so-called
Stratfordians, but he also feels that Shakespeare's work was written
by Christopher Marlowe, an intellectual, a homosexual, a spy.
The only problem with Rubbo's argument is that Marlowe apparently died
in a pub brawl in Deptford in 1593. However, in this extremely
entertaining film, Rubbo all but convinces you that Marlowe didn't
die, and that he wrote the plays from exile in Italy, shipping them
back by boat.
You may not be convinced by all this film, but you will certainly find
it extremely provocative and entertaining. A plus for the film is
Rubbo's distinct resemblance to the Bard himself.
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the BBC page is at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/storyville/much_ado_about_something.shtml
text only:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/education/betsie/parser.pl
well I'm not lucky enough to see it,(yet)
but have enjoyed a look around the sites listed,
and hope for some lively or interesting stuff on their
BBC message board afterwards!
lyra
Greg Reynolds
It is not convincing, but then we don't see
a lot of conversions to Marlovianism anyway.
Peter Farey comes off just as charismatically
as he does at HLAS. baker plays a cartoon
character mostly, but we get to see him hard
at work in his boneyard.
I found it annoying that Rubbo very often uses
the front seat of various cars in transit as his
set. He just interviews his subjects as they
drive. What, is the world ending in 20 min?
Get out of the damned car!
I would not expect this film to make money
in a theater run, but it was quite enjoyable
for those of us with the casual interest. I
personally enjoy learning more facts about
Marlowe, so there is value even without
the Shakespeare angle.
Greg Reynolds
lyra
> visiting the BBC site in hopes of some info
> as I can't view it (on
> Tuesday 23 April)
> I found this interesting page...
> (the stuff after this is quotes from it)
>
> Much Ado director Mike Rubbo
>
> MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
> Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
> Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
To make it clear what date,
note it is *not* *Thursday*
no matter what the page says!
23 is Tuesday!
lyra
Neuendorffer
> lyra wrote:
>
> > visiting the BBC site in hopes of some info
> > as I can't view it (on Tuesday 23 April)
> > I found this interesting page...
> > (the stuff after this is quotes from it)
> > MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
> > Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
> > Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
> >
> > Australian director Mike Rubbo offers a compelling examination of the
> > authenticity of Shakespeare's work.
> >
> > An impressive collection of academics, actors and eccentrics line-up
> > to join the entertaining debate.
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Greg Reynolds wrote:
> I viewed the film and surprisingly enjoyed it.
> It is not convincing, but then we don't see
> a lot of conversions to Marlovianism anyway.
> Peter Farey comes off just as charismatically
> as he does at HLAS. baker plays a cartoon
> character mostly, but we get to see him hard
> at work in his boneyard.
How the hell did you get the chance to see this thing???
> I found it annoying that Rubbo very often uses
> the front seat of various cars in transit as his
> set. He just interviews his subjects as they
> drive. What, is the world ending in 20 min?
> Get out of the damned car!
It's supposed to be reminiscent of Mel Gibson as cabbie Jerry
Fletcher at the start of "Conspiracy Theory"
> I would not expect this film to make money
> in a theater run, but it was quite enjoyable
> for those of us with the casual interest. I
> personally enjoy learning more facts about
> Marlowe, so there is value even without
> the Shakespeare angle.
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http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/cinema.html
Masonic references in the cinema
Conspiracy Theory (1997)
Mel Gibson is a New York taxi driver. In the opening scene he says,
"The masons, they are trying to take over the world." "George Bush is a
33rd degree mason." Mel Gibson, Julia Roberts, Patrick Stewart. Directed
by Richard Donner, written by Brian Helgeland. Warner Bros. 129 min.,
USA, English, Colour.
Mad Max beyond Thunderdome (1985)
Announcer introducing the fight between Max and Blaster wears a square
and compasses image on his shirt front. Mel Gibson, Tina Turner.
Directed by George Millar. USA, English, 107 min. (Action/SF). *
Across the Pacific (1942)
Humphrey Bogart is an American Army officer expelled on false charges
of treason. In a ship-board scene, ju-jitsu exercises performed by
Chinese sailors are compared to the initiatory nature of Freemasonry.
Mary Astor, Sydney Greenstreet. Directed by John Huston. USA, English.
Bobby Bumps Starts a lodge (1916)
Young Bobby Bumps plays a trick on his friend who wants to be initiated
into his lodge. When his friend outsmarts him and saves his life, they
both agree to be initiated into the lodge together. Reference is made to
a lodge apron, goat and third degree. Bray Productions, Inc. Paramount
Pictures. Directed by Earl Hurd (d. 1940). Produced by J. R. Bray. piano
score composed and performed by Philip Carli. 5:15 min/24 fps. Released
September 28, 1916. 1 reel of 1 (ca. 615 ft.) : silent animation, b&w ;
35 mm. *
Check and Double Check (1930)
Amos 'n Andy's lodge, the Mystic Knights of the Sea, plays a role in
the only movie made by this popular 1930s radio comedy team. Members of
the lodge wear fezzes and vote in a manner burlesquing that used in
Freemasonry. Freeman F. Gosden, Charles J. Correll. Produced by William
LaBaron. Story, dialogue and music by Bert Kalmar, Harry Ruby. Directed
by Melville Brown. RKO Radio Pictures. 85 min., USA, English, Black and
White. *
Dolores Claiborne (1995)
A big-city reporter travels to the small town where her mother has been
arrested for the murder of an elderly woman that she worked for as a
maid. Delores attempts to get a loan at a bank and the bank manager is
wearing a square and compasses lapel pin. Kathy Bates as Dolores
Claiborne, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Judy Parfitt, Christopher Plummer.
Directed by Taylor Hackford, screenplay by Tony Gilroy. 132 min., USA,
English, Colour.
Elmer Gantry (1960)
A minister proclaims that "... all the signers of the Declaration of
Independence were Christians and masons." Later, the minister shouts
"I'm a 32nd degree mason!" Burt Lancaster, Shirley Jones. Directed and
written by Richard Brooks. Fox, MGM, USA, English, Colour.
The End of Days (1999)
Arnold Schwartzenegger plays a former police officer who carries an
amulet. At one point he says "Now this amulet is from a masonic order in
the former sub-heredom of the Vatican Knights, the Knights of the Holy
See. They await the return of the dark angel to earth." Also, during the
opening titles Elephis Levi's baphomet can be briefly seen. Gabriel
Byrne, Kevin Pollak, Rod Steiger. Directed by Peter Hyams, written by
Andrew W. Marlowe. *
Erin Brockovich (2000)
The cornerstone of the Barstow Courthouse displays a square and
compasses. In a later scene a friend of Erin tells her that her husband
is out at a lodge meeting. Julia Roberts, David Brisbin, Dawn Didawick,
Albert Finney. Directed by Steven Soderbergh, written by Susannah Grant.
130 min. USA, English, Colour
Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
No specific references are available or confirmed. Tom Cruise, Nicole
Kidman. Directed by Stanley Kubrick, written by Arthur Schnitzler.
From Hell (2001)
Implicates the Craft as being responsible for the White Chapel murders
in London. Johnny Depp, Heather Graham, Ian Holm. Directed by Albert
Hughes, written by Alan Moore, Eddie Campbell. USA, English, 137 min.,
Colour.
Ghosts of Mississippi (1996)
Racist murderer "Byron De La Beckwith" drives a car with a Shriner
emblem hanging from rearview mirror. He also wears a Shriner lapel pin
during trial scenes while a funeral scene includes extras wearing fezzes
and GL officers' jewels. James Woods. Directed by Rob Reiner, written by
Leo Colick, Columbia Pictures & Castle Rock Entertainment. USA
[unconfirmed]
Hello Dolly (1969)
Walter Mathau's character marches in a parade with "Knights of Hudson,
lodge 26". They look like Knights Templar, but the emblem on their
banner is not masonic, possibly Knights of Pythias. Barbara Streisand,
Michael Crawford, Directed by Gene Kelly. [unconfirmed]
The Innocent Sleep (1996)
A drunken derelict in London finds himself being pursued by a corrupt
cop after witnessing a murder and stumbling onto a high-level
international conspiracy. Oliver Cotton, Tony Bluto Thorn, Paul
Brightwell.
Jack the Ripper (1998)
Sherlock Holmes is shown giving a sign of an Entered Apprentice to the
Chief of the Metropolitan Police; other references throughout the movie.
Michael Caine. [unconfirmed]
Kingdom Come (2001)
In a funeral scene, Shriners outside a church are almost run over by an
irate driver. LL Cool J, Vivica A. Fox, Jada Pinckett. Directed by Doug
McHenry, written by David Bottrell, Jessie Jones. USA, English, 94 min.
(Comedy).
Like Water for Chocolate [Como agua para chocolate] (1992)
A masonic funeral is enacted. Marco Leonardi, Tita Regina Torné, Iván
Martínez. Directed by Alfonso Arau, written by Laura Esquivel. 123 min.
Spanish
Lion King (1994)
The head lion's partner carries a cane with two balls attached to it.
Animation: voices- Rowan Atkinson, Matthew Broderick, Niketa Calame,
Whoopi Goldberg. Directed by Roger Allers, Rob Minkoff, written by Jim
Capobianco, Irene Mecchi. English, 89 min. Disney animation. *
Lone Star (1996)
Corrupt sheriff Charley Wade, played by Kris Kristofferson, is
identified as a mason by his ring as the movie begins. Stephen Mendillo,
Stephen J. Lang, Chris Cooper. Directed and written by John Sayles. USA,
English, 135 min. (Drama/Mystery).
Lost Horizon (1937)
British diplomat Robert Conway and a small group of civilians crash
land in the Himalayas, and are rescued by the people of the mysterious,
Eden-like valley of Shangri-la. Edward Everett Horton says," I've just
found a manuscript that explains the meaning behind all masonic
symbols." Ronald Colman as Conway, Edward Everett Horton (1886/03/18 -
1970/09/29) as Alexander P. Lovett. Directed by Frank Capra, written by
James Hilton & Robert Riskin. 138 min., USA, English, b&w.
The Majestic (2001)
Unrelated to the story, the square and compasses symbol can be seen
once on a mausoleum in the cemetery scene and once on a building on Main
Street in the later half of the movie. Jim Carrey. USA, English.
(Drama).
The Man Who Would Be King (1975)
Based on a Rudyard Kipling story. Mercenary soldiers convince
Kafiristan tribespeople that they are gods after discovering masonic
symbols on religious artifacts. Sean Connery, Michael Caine. Directed by
John Huston. (Drama/Action). *
Magnolia (1999)
There are two masonic references: a masonic encyclopedia is visible in
one scene while a young boy is studying for a TV game show; in another
scene, a TV producer rests his hand on the show host's shoulder,
displaying a masonic pinkie ring, and saying "We met on the level and
parted on the square." Written, directed and produced by Paul Thomas
Anderson.
The Mummy Returns (2001)
The question is asked by a protector of man and a servant of God, "If I
were to tell you that I was a stranger travelling from the East, what
would you say?" Brendan Fraser's character replies, "I would tell you
that I was a traveller coming from the west to meet you." Brendan
Fraser, Rachel Weisz, John Hannah, Arnold Vosloo. Directed by Stephen
Sommers, written by Stephen Sommers. USA, English, Colour.
Murder by Decree (1979)
Sherlock Holmes investigates London's most infamous case, Jack the
Ripper. As he investigates, he finds that the Ripper has friends in high
places, implicating Freemasons. Christopher Plummer, James mason.
Directed by Bob Clark.
Oddball Hall (1990)
Two aged jewel thieves hide out in a small African nation while their
hot gems cool off. Posing as leaders of a fictitious fraternity called
the Oddballs, they are mistaken for witch doctors. Don Ameche as G. Paul
Siebriese, Burgess Meredith as Ingersol and Graham Armitage as the Grand
Noble Master. Directed by Jackson Hunsicker, 87 min, USA, English.
Peggy Sue Got Married (1986)
Peggy's grandfather belongs to a time travelers' lodge complete with an
altar and a ritual using gavel raps. Kathleen Turner, Nicolas Cage.
Directed by Francis Ford Coppola. *
Piratene (1983)
The Internet Movie Database lists this film under the keyword
"Freemason" without giving details. Norwegian film directed by Morten
Kolstad, written by Bjoern-Erik Hanssen, starring Kristian Figenschow.
Rosewood (1997)
Square and compasses can be seen on a masonic lodge early in movie. Jon
Voight, Ving Rhames, Don Cheadle. Directed by John Singleton, written by
Gregory Poirer. USA, English, 140 min., Colour. (Action/Drama).
Secrets (1982)
A group of girls at a boarding school take part part in a masonic
ritual base on one girl's deceased father's ritual book. Helen Lindesey,
Anne Campbell-Jones, Daisy Cockburn, Directed by Gavin Millar. British.
*
Sons of the Desert (1933)
Fezz wearing Stan and Ollie go to a convention styled after the
Shriners, returning home to learn that honesty is the best policy.
Stanley Laural and Freemason Oliver Hardy, Charley Chase Directed by
Lloyd French & William A. Seiter, written by Frank Craven. 73 min. b&w *
Things to Come (1936)
In the year 1936 a global war begins. This war drags out over many
decades ... Raymond Massey as John Cabal/Oswald Cabal makes a reference
to "The brotherhood of efficiency. The freemasonry of science." [36
min.] A later reference to "our children's children" and the framing of
many shots by pillars or arches is not significant. Edward Chapman as
Pippa Passworthy/Raymond Passworthy, Ralph Richardson as The Boss,
Margaretta Scott as Roxana/Rowena. Directed by William Cameron Menzies,
Writing credits: H.G. Wells (also novel The Shape of Things to Come)
AKA: The Shape of Things to Come. UK, English, 100 min., b&w, Mono.
(Sci-Fi). *
Tombstone (1993)
A retelling of the gunfight at the OK Corral. Buck Taylor's character
can be seen wearing a square and compasses. A cowboy wearing a square
and compasses pendant tells Kurt Russell, "I've got a lot of friends."
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer. Directed by George P. Cosmatos, written by
Kevin Jarre. USA
True Grit (1969)
Kim Darby's character, Matty, on viewing her recently deceased father
in a coffin in a funeral parlour, tells the farm hand, "When you get
home, you put him in a better coffin and you bury him in a mason's
apron." [00:13:12] This line is taken from the 1968 novel by Charles
Portis. John Wayne, Glen Campbell, Robert Duvall. Directed by Henry
Hathaway. USA. *
U-Turn (1997)
Nick Nolte wears a masonic ring, seen in one close up shot. Sean Penn,
Nick Nolte, Jennifer Lopez, Powers Boothe. Directed by Oliver Stone,
written by John Ridley. English, 125 min..
What Planet Are You From? (2000)
Garry Shandling is an alien who has a job in a bank. His manager wears
a square and compasses on his lapel. Directed by Mike Nichols. Columbia
Pictures.
What's Eating Gilbert Grape(1993)
A masonic ring is worn by a funeral director; while sitting at his desk
you get a clear shot of the ring. Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio,
Juliette Lewis. Directed by Lasse Hallström, written by Peter Hedges.
USA, English, 118 min., Colour.
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Art Neuendorffer
Jo Lonergan
>visiting the BBC site in hopes of some info as I can't view it (on Tuesday 23 April)
>I found this interesting page... (the stuff after this is quotes from it)
>
>Much Ado director Mike Rubbo
>
>MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
>Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
>Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
>
<snip>
>
>well I'm not lucky enough to see it,(yet)
>but have enjoyed a look around the sites listed,
>and hope for some lively or interesting stuff on their
>BBC message board afterwards!
Given that's it's on BBC Four it will probably have an audience of
about 16 people.
--
Jo
Greg Reynolds
Neuendorffer wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------
> > lyra wrote:
> >
> > > visiting the BBC site in hopes of some info
> > > as I can't view it (on Tuesday 23 April)
> > > I found this interesting page...
> > > (the stuff after this is quotes from it)
>
> > > MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
> > > Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
> > > Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
> > >
> > > Australian director Mike Rubbo offers a compelling
> > > examination of the authenticity of Shakespeare's work.
> > >
> > > An impressive collection of academics, actors and
> > > eccentrics line-up to join the entertaining debate.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Greg Reynolds wrote:
>
> > I viewed the film and surprisingly enjoyed it.
> > It is not convincing, but then we don't see
> > a lot of conversions to Marlovianism anyway.
> > Peter Farey comes off just as charismatically
> > as he does at HLAS. baker plays a cartoon
> > character mostly, but we get to see him hard
> > at work in his boneyard.
>
> How the hell did you get the chance to see this thing???
I scrape the jujubes off the floor.
> > I found it annoying that Rubbo very often uses
> > the front seat of various cars in transit as his
> > set. He just interviews his subjects as they
> > drive. What, is the world ending in 20 min?
> > Get out of the damned car!
>
> It's supposed to be reminiscent of Mel Gibson as cabbie Jerry
> Fletcher at the start of "Conspiracy Theory"
How the hell did you get the chance to see this thing???
> > I would not expect this film to make money
> > in a theater run, but it was quite enjoyable
> > for those of us with the casual interest. I
> > personally enjoy learning more facts about
> > Marlowe, so there is value even without
> > the Shakespeare angle.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/cinema.html
>
> Masonic references in the cinema
Great source, Art:
> Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
> No specific references are available or confirmed.
Good to know they provide moronic non-references, too.
Greg Reynolds
"When you get home, you put him in a better coffin
and you bury him in a mason's apron."
--Matty (Kim Darby)
True Grit (1969)
Neuendorffer
> > > lyra wrote:
> > >
> > > > visiting the BBC site in hopes of some info
> > > > as I can't view it (on Tuesday 23 April)
> > > > I found this interesting page...
> > > > (the stuff after this is quotes from it)
> >
> > > > MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING
> > > > Mike Rubbo, Australia, 2001
> > > > Thursday 23 April 9pm-10.30pm
> > > >
> > > > Australian director Mike Rubbo offers a compelling
> > > > examination of the authenticity of Shakespeare's work.
> > > >
> > > > An impressive collection of academics, actors and
> > > > eccentrics line-up to join the entertaining debate.
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Greg Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > > I viewed the film and surprisingly enjoyed it.
> > > It is not convincing, but then we don't see
> > > a lot of conversions to Marlovianism anyway.
> > > Peter Farey comes off just as charismatically
> > > as he does at HLAS. baker plays a cartoon
> > > character mostly, but we get to see him hard
> > > at work in his boneyard.
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > How the hell did you get the chance to see this thing???
Greg Reynolds wrote:
> I scrape the jujubes off the floor.
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Zizyphus vulgaris
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Jujube (j[=u]"j[-u]b), n. [F., fr. L. zizyphum, Gr. zi`zyfon, Per.
z[=i]zf[=u]n, zizaf[=u]n, zayzaf[=u]n.] The sweet and edible drupes
(fruits) of several Mediterranean and African species of small trees, of
the genus {Zizyphus}, especially the {Z. jujuba}, {Z. vulgaris}, {Z.
mucronata}, and {Z. Lotus}. The last named is thought to have furnished
the lotus of the ancient Libyan Lotophagi, or lotus eaters.
{Jujube paste}, the dried or inspissated jelly of the jujube;
also, a confection made of gum arabic sweetened.
Jujube, n. A lozenge made of or in imitation of, or flavored with, the
jujube fruit.
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"the huge popularity of "gummy bears" cut into the jujube market."
http://www.marblehead.net/amy/jujube/
<<Folks, we have a problem: Green jujubes USED to taste like lime...or
mint, on a bad day. Lately, they taste very very bad. One visitor to
this site likened the taste to Lysol, and I'd have to agree with her!
We, the jujube-loving public, have been putting up with the flexible
nature of the jujube flavours for a long time (oh, just about since
Hershey's bought Heide, I'd say. Ahem.). I think it's now time to speak
out loudly to Hershey's and get something done!>>
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http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/jujube.html
JUJUBE: Ziziphus jujuba Mill. Rhamnaceae.
Common Names: Jujube, Chinese Date, Tsao.
Distant Affinity: Purple Haw (Colubrina texensis), Raisin Tree (Hovenia
dulcis).
Origin: The jujube originated in China where they have been cultivated
for more than 4,000 years and where there are over 400 cultivars. The
plants traveled beyond Asia
centuries ago and today are grown to some extent in Russia, northern
Africa, southern Europe, the Middle East and the southwestern United
States. Jujube seedlings, inferior to
the Chinese cultivars, were introduced into Europe at the beginning of
the Christian era and carried to the U. S. in 1837. It wasn't until 1908
that improved Chinese selections were introduced by the USDA.
Adaptation: The jujube can withstand a wide range of temperatures;
virtually no temperature seems to be too high in summertime. Winter
dormancy allows it to withstand
temperatures to about -28° F, yet it requires only a small amount of
winter chill in order for it to set fruit. The plant revels in summer
sun and heat, with the lack of either limiting fruit production more
than winter cold. Yet jujubes have fruited in the Puget Sound and low
Cascade regions of Washington State as well as in Pennsylvania. Fruiting
of some cultivars has also been reported in northern Florida.The Indian
jujube, which is more sensitive to frost, is grown in Florida, but the
fruit is considered inferior. Jujube trees are not particularly suitable
for container culture, but can be grown in this manner in a large
container.
DESCRIPTION
Growth Habit: The jujube is a small, deciduous tree, growing to 40 feet
tall in Florida, but smaller in size in California. The naturally
drooping tree is graceful, ornamental and often thorny with branches
growing in a zig-zag pattern. The wood is very hard and strong. Jujube
cultivars vary in size and conformation, with some being very narrow in
habit and others being more widespread. One cultivar, the So, seems to
be fairly dwarfing in habit. After 30 years of growth in an average
site, trees can be 30 feet tall with a crown diameter of up to 15 feet.
Plants send up suckers (often with intimidating spines) from their
roots, and these suckers can appear many feet from the mother plant.
Currently, these root suckers must be controlled by mowing or hoeing.
Foliage: The small, ovate or oval leaves are 1-2 inches long and a shiny
bright green. In the autumn, the leaves turn bright yellow before
falling. There are usually two spines at the base of each leaf. Some
spines may be hooked while others are long daggers. Virtually thornless
cultivars are known. As the growing season commences, each node of a
woody branch produces one to ten branchlets. Most of these are
deciduous, falling from the plant in autumn.
Flowers: The inconspicuous, 1/5 inch diameter, white to greenish-yellow
flowers are somewhat fragrant and produced in large numbers in the leaf
axils. The flowering period extends over several months from late spring
into summer. However, individual flowers are receptive to pollen for
only one day or less. Pollination needs of the jujube are not clearly
defined, but appear to be done by ants or other insects and possibly by
the wind. Most jujube cultivars produce fruit without cross-pollination
.. The jujube is well protected from late spring frosts by delayed
budding until all chance of cold weather has passed.
Fruit: The fruit is a drupe, varying from round to elongate and from
cherry-size to plum-size depending on cultivar. It has a thin, edible
skin surrounding whitish flesh of sweet, agreeable flavor. The single
hard stone contains two seeds. The immature fruit is green in color, but
as it ripens it goes through a yellow-green stage with mahogany-colored
spots appearing on the skin as the fruit ripens further. The fully
mature fruit is entirely red. Shortly after becoming fully red, the
fruit begins to soften and wrinkle. The fruit can be eaten after it
becomes wrinkled, but most people prefer them during the interval
between the yellow-green stage and the full red stage. At this stage the
flesh is crisp and sweet, reminiscent of an apple. Under dry conditions
jujubes lose moisture, shrivel and become spongy inside. Tests in Russia
indicate a very high vitamin C content. The fruit has been used
medicinally for millennia by many cultures. One of its most popular
uses is as a tea for sore throat>>
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> > > I found it annoying that Rubbo very often uses
> > > the front seat of various cars in transit as his
> > > set. He just interviews his subjects as they
> > > drive. What, is the world ending in 20 min?
> > > Get out of the damned car!
> >
> > It's supposed to be reminiscent of Mel Gibson as cabbie Jerry
> > Fletcher at the start of "Conspiracy Theory"
>
> How the hell did you get the chance to see this thing???
My wife's cousin suggested that I see it.
My sister suggested that I see _A Beautiful Mind_
Other's have suggest I read _Foucault's Pendulum_.
> > > I would not expect this film to make money
> > > in a theater run, but it was quite enjoyable
> > > for those of us with the casual interest. I
> > > personally enjoy learning more facts about
> > > Marlowe, so there is value even without
> > > the Shakespeare angle.
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/cinema.html
> >
> > Masonic references in the cinema
>
> Great source, Art:
>
> > Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
> > No specific references are available or confirmed.
>
> Good to know they provide moronic non-references, too.
That's 'Masonic non-specific reference.'
>
> Greg Reynolds
> "When you get home, you put him in a better coffin
> and you bury him in a mason's apron."
> --Matty (Kim Darby)
> True Grit (1969)
True Grit = green Jujubes.
Art Neuendorffer