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H. Humphrey

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May 11, 2010, 9:50:07 PM5/11/10
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Would it be better to learn phrases and words and then learn how the
sentences work, or is it better to work from the ground up meaning
that I learn basic grammar and sentence structure and then add vocab
on top of that.
If the latter's the case, what would be the progression of learning
(i.e. Alphabet -> Vowels -> Personal Pronouns -> etc.)?

Also, I'm having trouble learning new words in actual russian. For
example, when I learned colors, instead of remembering Чёрный, I wrote
out Chornay next to it. I can remember the Chornay and the way that it
sounds, but I can't remember how to spell it in Russian. Is this bad?
Or should I just learn it how ever I can and then learn the Russian
spelling later on.

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rambles2003

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May 12, 2010, 4:27:20 AM5/12/10
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Hello H.Humphrey,

I think that when first starting it is good to use whatever strategy
you feel helps you to make some progress. So, writing out a
transliteration may give you confidence to pronounce the word.
However, when you do come to grips with the Russian alphabet you will
find that it is much better suited to the Russian language than the
equivalent in English (Roman) script. It is actually much easier to
write a Russian word using the Russian alphabet, once you know the
alphabet.

As for whether to learn words or phrases, I think that it is useful to
do both. You cannot get away from studying individual words in the
long term but it is also useful to see those words used in the context
of a sentence in order to better understand their meaning and to
remember them. But you cannot just learn phrases. It's no good
speaking in Russian to anyone unless you can understand their reply.
So it is necessary to understand the meaning of individual words
because words will be returned to you in any order, depending on the
reply that the person wants to give.

I think it is most important when first starting out with a language
to avoid getting despondent through apparent lack of progress. It is
a matter of putting in the hours of study and building it up
gradually. One of the benefits of Huliganov's Gold List Method of
learning vocabulary is that it's a structured approach to learning
that gives a pleasant and unstressed routine that can be followed
without that constant nagging doubt about whether enough progress is
being made. And the Gold List Method has it's own progress monitor
because the vocabulary is numbered sequentially. So, if for example,
if you have 200 words after the third distillation you have a fairly
good measure of progress.

Peter (aka Rambles2003)


On May 12, 2:50 am, "H. Humphrey" <haydenhumph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would it be better to learn phrases and words and then learn how the
> sentences work, or is it better to work from the ground up meaning
> that I learn basic grammar and sentence structure and then add vocab
> on top of that.
> If the latter's the case, what would be the progression of learning
> (i.e. Alphabet -> Vowels -> Personal Pronouns -> etc.)?
>
> Also, I'm having trouble learning new words in actual russian. For

> example, when I learned colors, instead of remembering þ£ÒÎÙÊ, I wrote


> out Chornay next to it. I can remember the Chornay and the way that it
> sounds, but I can't remember how to spell it in Russian. Is this bad?
> Or should I just learn it how ever I can and then learn the Russian
> spelling later on.
>
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