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Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES

Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more. A new version is available. This is a
release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days.


MIGRATION TO LAUNCHPAD

Tracking of bugs, patches, and features requests for Hugin and related tools
(Enblend-enfuse and Panotools) has switched from SourceForge to Launchpad.
Hugin's needs have outgrown the SourceForge tracker. The project is grateful
to SourceForge for providing it with a nurturing infrastructure since
inception. We hope that the more modern and feature-rich tracker on Launchpad
will enable the project to work through the backlog of over 200 tickets and
process an increasing amount of tickets more efficiently.

Please report bugs and feature requests at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin


TRANSLATIONS

New strings have been added. Please help us translating the new strings into
your language. Instructions at
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide


DOWNLOAD

The 2010.4.0_rc1 source tarball can be downloaded from sourceforge at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/hugin-2010.4.0_rc1.tar.bz2/download

This is a sourcecode release. The project has limited resources and relies on
third parties to produce binaries for the different platforms. Instructions
at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools . If you have a
build to contribute for your platform, contact the Hugin developers team on
http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx .

A number of users have pledged to provide binaries within a few days after a
tarball release. Look for announcements of these binaries on
http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx

This tarball is equivalent to rev/changeset 4745:003a7c16c734 in our Mercurial
repository, where it is also tagged 2010.4.0_rc1

Verify its SHA1SUM eb2131190ffc7c17064633d125aeb961f9468189


CHANGES SINCE 2010.4.0_beta2

Updated Translations
* Chinese Simplified (Lu Fang)
* Russian (Alexandre Prokoudine)
* Dutch (Harry van der Wolf)
* Hungarian (Lajos Höss)
* German (Carl von Einem, Joachim Schneider, Thomas Modes)
* Latin American Spanish (Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria)
* Spanish (Uwe Koch Kronberg)
* Czech (Vaclav Cerny)
* Italian (Cristian Marchi)

Bug Fixes
* A few language fixes
* Added gnu make 3.82 to search list for make (Thomas Modes)
* Explicitly close generated makefile. This could fix issue #684749 (Thomas
Modes)
* Fixed Windows installer control point generator defaults. (Matthew Petroff)
* Show warning if no exposure parameters are selected for optimization.
(Thomas Modes)
* Don't optimize exposure if no parameters are selected. (Thomas Modes)
* Add file extension if not given for saving cp detector setting (Thomas
Modes)
* Fixes empty config file issues (Thomas Modes)


DEDICATION

This release of Hugin is dedicated to Milko K. Amorth (1960-2010). Details in
the About menu.


CHANGES SINCE 2010.2.0

This is our third release in 2010. For the first time Hugin can be considered
feature-complete. A third-party control points generator is no longer
necessary. This release delivers some major new features, integrates some
projects from the 2010 Google Summer of Code, and includes many general
improvements.


_Built-in Control Points Generator_

For the first time Hugin does not depend on a third-party control points
generator. cpfind is the result of years of ongoing efforts and Google Summer
of Code projects aimed at delivering a 'patent-free' control points generator.
Third-party control point generators are still supported.

Instead of passing an often incomplete and incompatible set of parameters
through the command line, the built-in control points generator has direct
access to all project information and tools. It speeds up and optimizes
multi-row matching. It uses Celeste to identify the sky. Unlike most of its
predecessors it is multi-threaded and takes advantage of modern multi-core
hardware.

Additionally, Hugin now has the ability to save and load control-point
generators settings from disk, reducing confusion and errors due to the
changes in the command line interface of the third-party control points
generators.


_Improved Unattended Operation_

Many features improve unattended (batch) operation including:
* The Batch Processor has been improved and can now automatically detect
projects.
* The Assistant is now batchable as well, so more operations can be automated
and run unattended.
* More robust Makefiles to drive the stitching process (see Refactored
Makefile Library below


_Improved Interaction and Functionality_

Many features improve user interaction (real-time) including:
* Masks have been extended with two new types to support stacks in the Masks
tab.
* Numeric Transform now supports translation (mosaic mode).
* Photos are now loaded in a background thread. This means that Hugin
projects can be used immediately without waiting for all the photos to be
read.
* The Stitcher tab is now rearranged and with less jargon to clarify the
process.
* Better compliance with native user interface guidelines on Windows, OS X and
Linux.
* Hints in the Preview window now suggest improvements.


_Improved Reporting of Stitching and System Information_

*System information is shown in About window.
*Stitching now reports more information about the current system.
*Stitching log can be saved for better bug reporting.


_New Command-Line Tools_

* cpfind is a command line interface to Hugin's native 'patent-free'control
point detector.
* icpfind uses the different control point detectors and heuristic control
point detector strategies from the command line. It does not introduce new
functionality, it allows running the different control points detectors with a
unified command structure from the command line.


_Refactored Makefile Library_

Hugin stitches panoramas by chaining together individual commands. The
stitching process is driven by make a tool known for automatically assembling
software not images. The list of targets and the commands to reproduce them
are described in a declarative language called a Makefile. Hugin leverages
the benefits of make for the stitching process. Makefiles make the process
easy to stop and start, postpone or continue on different machines and
generally makes everything very flexible and efficient. If a panorama has
been only partially edited, the Makefile ensures that only those steps that
have changed are computed again. Make enables advanced application such as
automated stitching and distributed stitching.

With this release, the stitching logic has been recreated with a new C++
library for creating Makefiles. This should enable better and more precise
control over the various stitching tools and scripting of other aspects of
panorama creation.


_Libraries and Build Improvements_

* Hugin uses the wxWidgets GUI toolkit. Support has been added for wxWidgets
2.9. It is still experimental. Hugin still supports wxWidgets 2.7 and
recommends 2.8.
* Support for gcc-4.4.4 and gcc-4.5.1 compilers.
* boost 1.34 minimum version required. At least the following boost libraries
* filesystem
* graph
* iostreams
* regex
* signals
* system
* thread
* Hugin defaults to saving TIFF files with LZW compression instead of
PACKBITS. This requires a libtiff with LZW support.
* On Linux/Unix systems, libaries are now installed in a private location.
This simplifies things for users who want to run multiple versions of Hugin
simultaneously.


_New Visuals_

Hugin has had the same logo and icon almost since inception. Unfortunately
the source files have gone lost in time. Cristian Marchi contributed SVG
files of new logo and icons that are an evolution of the original artwork by
Dr. Luca Vascon. To celebrate the first feature-complete release of Hugin the
project has adopted a new visual appearance. Moreover all artwork source has
been collected into ./artwork-src. To facilitate contributions from graphic
designers the generation of the actual buttons and icons has been streamlined
and scripted.


_Other Improvements_

This release has the usual bugfixes, adds minor features, and provides some
more command-line tools for scripting panorama projects.


_Control point generators_

Hugin ships now with its own 'Patent Free' control point generator. You can
still install and configure one of the following control-point generators as
'plug-ins':
* autopano-sift-C
* panomatic
* libpanomatic
* match-n-shift
* Autopano-SIFT
* Autopano freeware version

The project will continue to support the plug-in architecture.

_Upgrading_

Upgrading from previous versions of Hugin should be seamless. If you do have
problems with old settings, these can be reset in the Preferences by clicking
'Load defaults'.

For users compiling from source: note that the minimum version of wxWidgets
supported is 2.7.0, libpano13 needs to be at least 2.9.17, and that Hugin
requires GLEW the OpenGL Extension Wrangler Library, freeglut the OpenGL
utility toolkit, and libGLU the OpenGL utility library.

See the README and INSTALL_cmake files for more information.

Thanks to all the contributors to this release and members of the hugin-ptx
mailing list, too many to mention here.

Hugin can be found at http://hugin.sourceforge.net/
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Tduell

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Dec 23, 2010, 4:57:33 PM12/23/10
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Hullo Yuval,

On Dec 24, 7:51 am, Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:

>
> The 2010.4.0_rc1 source tarball can be downloaded from sourceforge athttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/h...

Well done getting to RC1.
Builds OK here on Fedora 13.
A couple of things worth noting.
It reports the same version number as beta-2.
The crash I reported (bug 692404) can be reproduced in a couple of
different projects.
Not sure if anyone has had time to look at that bug as yet. The
circumstances needed to bring about a crash are a tad obscure so it
may not be serious, although maybe a little disconcerting to a new
user.

Cheers,
Terry

john doe

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i see my name is there, is there anything new in the po file that i need to know to translate it????by the way how do i upgrade to the latest version??


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Yuval Levy

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Hi Terry,

On December 23, 2010 04:57:33 pm Tduell wrote:
> It reports the same version number as beta-2.

where? when I look in the About Hugin menu, the version reported is
2010.4.0.003a7c16c734 and I don't see anything about beta-2?


> The crash I reported (bug 692404) can be reproduced in a couple of
> different projects.
> Not sure if anyone has had time to look at that bug as yet. The
> circumstances needed to bring about a crash are a tad obscure so it
> may not be serious, although maybe a little disconcerting to a new

to be perfectly honest, I have not seen the bug report yet. I don't know if
others with more skill/time have. I was already late with RC1. I'll look at
the issues with RC1 in the coming days, and if there are solutions to those
issues, we'll release another RC.

Yuv

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Tduell

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Hullo Yuval,


On Dec 24, 2:48 pm, Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> On December 23, 2010 04:57:33 pm Tduell wrote:
>
> > It reports the same version number as beta-2.
>
> where?  when I look in the About Hugin menu, the version reported is
> 2010.4.0.003a7c16c734 and I don't see anything about beta-2?

Whoa...I have just gone back and checked the contents of the rev.txt
file within the rc1 archive, and it has 003a7c16c734, so something is
amiss here. I will have to backtrack to check what has happened. Sorry
for what appears to be a false alarm.

> to be perfectly honest, I have not seen the bug report yet.  I don't know if
> others with more skill/time have.  I was already late with RC1.  I'll look at
> the issues with RC1 in the coming days, and if there are solutions to those
> issues, we'll release another RC.

OK.

Cheers,
Terry

Matthew Petroff

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Dec 23, 2010, 11:15:46 PM12/23/10
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Windows binaries for Hugin 2010.4.0-rc1 are now available:

32-bit (no installer):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/Hugin_2010.4.0-rc1_32bit_Windows.7z/download

64-bit (no installer):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/Hugin_2010.4.0-rc1_64bit_Windows.7z/download

32-bit Installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/HuginSetup_2010.4.0-rc1_32bit_Windows.exe/download

64-bit Installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/HuginSetup_2010.4.0-rc1_64bit_Windows.exe/download

Matthew

On Dec 23, 3:51 pm, Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:
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> Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES
>
> Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more.  A new version is available.  This is a
> release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days.
>
> MIGRATION TO LAUNCHPAD
>
> Tracking of bugs, patches, and features requests for Hugin and related tools
> (Enblend-enfuse and Panotools) has switched from SourceForge to Launchpad.  
> Hugin's needs have outgrown the SourceForge tracker.  The project is grateful
> to SourceForge for providing it with a nurturing infrastructure since
> inception.  We hope that the more modern and feature-rich tracker on Launchpad
> will enable the project to work through the backlog of over 200 tickets and
> process an increasing amount of tickets more efficiently.
>
> Please report bugs and feature requests athttps://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin
>
> TRANSLATIONS
>
> New strings have been added.  Please help us translating the new strings into
> your language.  Instructions athttp://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide
>
> DOWNLOAD
>
> The 2010.4.0_rc1 source tarball can be downloaded from sourceforge athttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/h...
>
> This is a sourcecode release.  The project has limited resources and relies on
> third parties to produce binaries for the different platforms.  Instructions
> athttp://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools.  If you have a
> build to contribute for your platform, contact the Hugin developers team onhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx.
>
> A number of users have pledged to provide binaries within a few days after a
> tarball release.  Look for announcements of these binaries onhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
> Hugin can be found athttp://hugin.sourceforge.net/
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Tduell

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Dec 23, 2010, 11:34:30 PM12/23/10
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Hullo Yuval,

On Dec 24, 3:03 pm, Tduell <tdu...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Whoa...I have just gone back and checked the contents of the rev.txt
> file within the rc1 archive, and it has 003a7c16c734, so something is
> amiss here. I will have to backtrack to check what has happened. Sorry
> for what appears to be a false alarm.

It was indeed, a false alarm. A finger error resulting in the beta-2
source being rebuilt instead of the rc1 source.
Please accept my apologies. I'm sure that erroneous reports of
problems are the last thing you need at the moment.

Cheers,
Terry

Bart van Andel

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Hi Matthew,


Thanks for being such a fast binary contributor once again (and big thanks to all other contributors as well of course)! Are your '2010.4.0-rc1' files supposed to be in the '2010.4_beta' location? I know, it's merely a cosmetic issue, but I'd expect them to be located in a '2010.4.0_rc1' directory instead.

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Andreas Metzler

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In article <201012231551...@levy.ch> (gmane.comp.misc.ptx) you wrote:
[...]
> Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES


Hallo,

ich habe gerade die Pakete nach Debian/experimental hochgeladen.

http://www.bebt.de/hugin/

lg Andreas

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Tduell

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Hullo Matthew,

On Dec 24, 3:15 pm, Matthew Petroff <matt...@mpetroff.net> wrote:
> Windows binaries for Hugin 2010.4.0-rc1 are now available:

Thanks for building the Windows binaries.
I have installed your 32 bit version on a virtual machine running XP
Pro, as a precursor to trying to help a computer illiterate friend get
started with Hugin. As you may know, I'm a Linux user, so Hugin on
Windows is a learning experience for me too!
When hugin completes an alignment I am getting an error message saying
it needs support for OpenGL version 1.1 with
GL_ARB_multitexture_extension.
What software/package is recommended to provide the OpenGL needed by
the Fast preview Window?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Terry

davidefa

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:47:34 AM12/24/10
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On your virtual machine, try selecting a virtual video driver with
opengl support

Harry van der Wolf

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Mac users,

MacOSX builds of the Hugin 2010.4.0-RC1 can be found on my website[0] under the name hugin-mac-2010.4.0-RC1.
Hugin can be used on Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Tiger users must use the Tiger build of enblend/enfuse which are available in the dmg in the folder enblend-enfuse-4.0. Read the Readme.
(Snow) Leopard users can use the Hugin.app as it is.

hoi,
Harry

[0]: <http://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=EN&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin>




2010/12/23 Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch>

Bart van Andel

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Hi Terry,

On Windows, the OpenGL functionality is provided by the graphics card driver, if I'm not mistaken. The generic drivers that ship with (the quite old) Windows XP don't offer a lot of OpenGL. You should try to get a more specific (and up-to-date) driver. Depending on the virtual device offered by the virtual machine, this may or may not be available. Updating drivers has helped me in the past (for Pannini that was, which also requires more OpenGL than the generic driver offers).

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Lukáš Jirkovský

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On 23 December 2010 21:51, Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:
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> Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES
>
> Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more.  A new version is available.  This is a
> release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days.
>
>

I have updated OpenSuSE 11.3 packages. You can get them from

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stativ/openSUSE_11.3/

RueiKe

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Dec 24, 2010, 7:18:00 AM12/24/10
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I have tried this release and the beta 2 version on a current project
and am having some problems. I originally started the project with
the beta2 build. The first alignment was fine. I deleted some bad
control points from the control point table. When I attempted the
alignment again from the optimizer tab, the results in the preview
changed from 360x180 to 180x180. I reset all parameters for all
images and found that when I try aligning again it stops at iteration
33 and hangs idenfinitely. I have tried this build, and found the
same issue.

Details of my project and configuration follow:
Project: 217 images in 7 shot 1EV step brackets. This is typical for
my projects that includes 3 rows of 10 shots each plus the Nadir. I
added control points between all of the nominal exposures and
specified a different stack number for each exposure bracket. There
are 9323 control points.

System:
Operating System: Windows Vista (build 6002, Service Pack 2)
Architecture: 64 bit
Free memory: 487828 kiB
Active Codepage: 1252 (Western European Windows)

Hugin
Version: 2010.4.0.003a7c16c734 built by Matthew Petroff
Path to ressources: C:\Program Files\Hugin/share/hugin/xrc/
Path to data: C:\Program Files\Hugin/share/hugin/data/

Regards,
Rick

RueiKe

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Yuval Levy

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n December 24, 2010 04:16:55 am Andreas Metzler wrote:
> ich habe gerade die Pakete nach Debian/experimental hochgeladen.
>
> http://www.bebt.de/hugin/

Danke, Andreas!

When verifying the sha256sum it occured to me that the file
hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc does not list them in a "properly formatted" way
that makes them easily verifiable with a single `sha256sum -c
hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc` command. Is it possible to format them in a
way that sha256sum can digest?

now that I verified your signature on the file; and that the downloaded
packages are what they claim to be; I'll move on to produce the derived
packages for Ubuntu.

Frohe Weihnachten

Yuv

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Yuval Levy

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On December 24, 2010 10:39:50 am Yuval Levy wrote:
> now that I verified your signature on the file; and that the downloaded
> packages are what they claim to be; I'll move on to produce the derived
> packages for Ubuntu.

Lucid and Karmic builds are being built right now [0]

if anybody has access to Maverick / Natty:

* Download the files posted by Andreas a few hours ago and verify them (note
that for the sha256sum step to work you will need to edit
hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc to comply with the expected format. Remove all
white spaces in front of the checksums. remove the filesize between the
checksum and the filename. make sure there are two spaces between the
checksum and the filename.
* When editing debian/control, eit the Maintainer and Uploader to "Hugin PPA
Packagers <hugi...@googlegroups.gom>"
* In the line starting with DEBEMAIL, replace <SERIES> with maverick or natty
depending on the environment in which you are building; and <YOUR_NAME>
with... your name.
* $GPGKEY is your signature known to Launchpad. You must have set your
account, including signing the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, as described in [1]
* for the dput step, you will also need to be a member of Hugin builders.
There are four people there currently and we will give you access if needed.

gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8B8D7663
gpg --verify hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc
sha256sum -c hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc
tar xvzf hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1.orig.tar.gz
tar xvzf hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.debian.tar.gz
mv debian/ hugin-2010.4.0/
cd hugin-2010.4.0/
nano debian/control
DEBEMAIL="<YOUR_NAME> <hugi...@googlegroups.com>" dch --newversion
2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-<SERIES>1 new upstream release
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us -sa -S
cd ..
debsign -k$GPGKEY *.changes
dput ppa:hugin/hugin-builds *.changes


Yuv

[0] https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/hugin-builds
[1] http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Trackers#Launchpad_Account
[2] https://launchpad.net/~hugin/

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Yuval Levy

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Dec 24, 2010, 10:32:44 PM12/24/10
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On December 24, 2010 03:30:03 am Bart van Andel wrote:
> Are your '2010.4.0-rc1' files
> supposed to be in the '2010.4_beta' location? I know, it's merely a
> cosmetic issue, but I'd expect them to be located in a '2010.4.0_rc1'
> directory instead.

yes - I have put the rc1 source tarball there as well. the folder is merely a
distiction for "non-final". once a release will be finalized, it will be
renamed and moved to an appropriate location and the 2010.4_beta folder will
be deleted.

Yuv

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Yuval Levy

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On December 24, 2010 07:24:39 am RueiKe wrote:
> I uploaded the pto file:
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/web/DR13_Rev1.pto?hl=en%05eeb80c98
> d0c9ce2

thanks, got it. be aware that the GoogleGroup files facility is shutting
down, and anyway messages here tends to get buried in history. best way to
place bug reports is https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin

before having a look I will need to make space on my my hdd for image
placeholders. i'm currently away from home and don't have as much free disk
space as usual.

Yuv

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Andreas Metzler

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Dec 25, 2010, 7:24:00 AM12/25/10
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Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:

> On December 24, 2010 04:16:55 am Andreas Metzler wrote:
>> ich habe gerade die Pakete nach Debian/experimental hochgeladen.

>> http://www.bebt.de/hugin/

> Danke, Andreas!

> When verifying the sha256sum it occured to me that the file
> hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc does not list them in a "properly formatted" way
> that makes them easily verifiable with a single `sha256sum -c
> hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc` command. Is it possible to format them in a
> way that sha256sum can digest?

[...]

No, this is not a free-form file. However dpkg-source automatically
verifies that the checksums match.

cu andreas

Tduell

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Dec 27, 2010, 5:28:10 PM12/27/10
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Hullo Yuval, All,

On Dec 24, 7:51 am, Yuval Levy <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:

> Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES
>
> Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more.  A new version is available.  This is a
> release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days.

Fedora 13 and 14 packages of 2010.4.0-RC1 have been built and should
be available from Bruno's repository shortly.
Sorry for the delay. They were built within hours of Yuval's
announcement but had not been forwarded to Bruno.

Cheers,
Terry
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