Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

While investigating problems that I will report in a while, I
installed 2015.0.0 on a Microsoft 7 machine. I then accessed it via
rdesktop, my usual way of interaction with that machine, and Hugin
didn't like that: it disabled the fast panorama window.

OK, I can understand that. But how do I reenable it? I can't find a
menu option, and "load defaults" doesn't help.

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[T. Modes]

Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 07:57:33 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:

OK, I can understand that.  But how do I reenable it?  I can't find a
menu option, and "load defaults" doesn't help.

Start Hugin with pressed ctrl key.

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

OK, I'm a Microsoft novice, but how do I start it? I've tried holding
down the Ctrl key and clicking on the icon on the root window, and
also from the start menu. In each case Hugin starts, but the fast
panorama preview is still disabled.

So I removed Hugin from the machine (using Control Panel/Programs and
Features and selecting "clean registry settings") and reinstalled from
sourceforge. I couldn't get it to work at all! When selecting files
it didn't wait for me to click on "Open" and loaded only a single
file. When I tried again, it crashed, repeatedly. It's interesting
to note that although I cleaned registry settings, it remembered the
path to my images.

Reinstall. This time it runs and produces a completely broken
panorama. The test images I'm using here are at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
file generated by the Microsoft version.

I'll add other files as I answer the other messages.

[Brandon]

I did not download and test the images with the pto. Just looking at the pto, it looks like there are no control points in it yet. In what way is it broken? I do note that most of the images have different yaw settings. Did you move them around, apply a preset to them or did hugin do that? If so at what point did hugin do it?

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

This is the breakage with Microsoft, right? The images were spread
randomly across the fast panorama preview window. What I did:

- Load files with the Assistant.
- Let it do its thing.

The result is at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Day/20151101/Microsoft-preview.png . I've
also put the pto file there as Microsoft.pto , and there are also
comparison files 2012-preview.png and 2012.pto showing what the 2012
version of Hugin does under FreeBSD.

I'm still looking at the 2015 issues. Watch this space.

[Terry Duell]

Hello Greg,

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:31:25 +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey
<groo...@gmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>
> Reinstall. This time it runs and produces a completely broken
> panorama. The test images I'm using here are at
> http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
> file generated by the Microsoft version.
>

I grabbed the first two images and they are handled OK here
(hugin-2015.1.0, Fedora)...control points found OK and aligned OK.
So it looks like your MS version is broken.
The PTO uses different image filenames to those you posted, but that's a
minor issue and probably unrelated.
As it looks like an MS issue I'm not any help I'm afraid.

Cheers,
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Regards,
Terry Duell

[T. Modes]

Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 23:31:36 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:

OK, I'm a Microsoft novice, but how do I start it?  I've tried holding
down the Ctrl key and clicking on the icon on the root window, and
also from the start menu.  In each case Hugin starts, but the fast
panorama preview is still disabled.

When starting Hugin with pressed ctrl key you should get a dialog with the option to enable or disable the OpenGL part.
It should not matter how you start Hugin, as long as you hold the ctrl key.
 

Reinstall.  This time it runs and produces a completely broken
panorama.  The test images I'm using here are at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
file generated by the Microsoft version.

The pto file refer to images "00" to "07" without extension. But your example files are named  "house-n-9mm-x.jpeg".
I tested with these images and with the Hugin version from sourceforge on Windows. All works okay with your images.
Maybe the missing extension make some trouble?

PS:
> I've already noted that the highlighting of individual images in the fast panorama preview went away,
No, it is still there. But it is deactivated by default. Press the ctrl key and move over the panorama or activate the identify tool on the preview tab.

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Sunday, 1 November 2015 at 1:09:53 -0700, T. Modes wrote:
> Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 23:31:36 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>>
>> OK, I'm a Microsoft novice, but how do I start it? I've tried holding
>> down the Ctrl key and clicking on the icon on the root window, and
>> also from the start menu. In each case Hugin starts, but the fast
>> panorama preview is still disabled.
>
> When starting Hugin with pressed ctrl key you should get a dialog
> with the option to enable or disable the OpenGL part.
>
> It should not matter how you start Hugin, as long as you hold the
> ctrl key.

OK, I've tried this in several different ways:

- From COMMAND.COM: hugin not found.
- From the Desktop: nothing at all happens.
- From the start menu. Nothing happens.
- Dragged the icon from the desktop to the task bar. It works!
- Later went back to confirm. The start menu has changed completely,
and now when I climb down the tree to Hugin, it too works. I never
will understand Microsoft.

The message currently reads "Should the openGL powered fast preview
window disabled?". A bit of rephrasing would be good. When I get
round to building the default branch, I'll submit a patch.

>> Reinstall. This time it runs and produces a completely broken
>> panorama. The test images I'm using here are at
>> http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
>

> The pto file refer to images "00" to "07" without extension. But
> your example files are named "house-n-9mm-x.jpeg".

Sorry about that. I have a script that works around the pain of file
selection boxes by linking the images I want to an empty directory,
where I can simply select them all. While I'm at it I change the
names to match the numbers that Hugin assigns. I had forgotten that
this information is visible in the PTO file.

> I tested with these images and with the Hugin version from
> sourceforge on Windows. All works okay with your images.

Yes, it seems that this message overlapped with my last one, where I
noted that there's some additional configuration information somewhere
in the home directory, but not in ~/.hugin. After creating a new home
directory, Hugin works as expected.

> Maybe the missing extension make some trouble?

No, Hugin recognizes files for what they are regardless of the name.

>> I've already noted that the highlighting of individual images in
>> the fast panorama preview went away,
>
> No, it is still there. But it is deactivated by default. Press the
> ctrl key and move over the panorama or activate the identify tool on
> the preview tab.

There used to be two ways. That's one of them; the other was to run
the cursor over the image numbers at the top. That no longer works.

[T. Modes]

Am Montag, 2. November 2015 03:39:13 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:

> No, it is still there. But it is deactivated by default. Press the
> ctrl key and move over the panorama or activate the identify tool on
> the preview tab.

There used to be two ways.  That's one of them; the other was to run
the cursor over the image numbers at the top.  That no longer works.

Wrong. It is still working, but only when the identify tool is activated, as written above.