Hugin 2011.4 crashes with *buntu 12.10

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Giulio

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Oct 26, 2012, 1:57:14 PM10/26/12
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Hello everyone,

 i have tried hugin 2011.04 with ubuntu 12.10 (live) and it keeps crashing. The same happens with 12.04 (installed).

Here is a screencast and a strace:
http://sdrv.ms/VtpbGd

(i haven't found the core)

The video card is a radeon 9200 and the os is 32 bit, but the same happens on another pc with ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with a nv17 card and nouveau drivers.

Thank you in advance.

Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)

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Oct 27, 2012, 6:39:50 AM10/27/12
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I can't say what is wrong and I also use hugin 2011.04 with ubuntu 12.10 using xubuntu in a core i5 with 2GB RAM. I could see it happened when you maximized the preview windows. You could try a workaround. Usually those crashes are associated with memory. Try to save the panorama before opening the preview window, then close and reopen hugin to see if this "cleans" the environment. Another try would be using different versions of hugin, instead of different linux versions.

Cheers,

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2012/10/26 Giulio <fotogi...@gmail.com>

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Oct 27, 2012, 8:16:39 AM10/27/12
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Em 27/10/2012 07:39, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) escreveu:
I can't say what is wrong and I also use hugin 2011.04 with ubuntu 12.10 using xubuntu in a core i5 with 2GB RAM. I could see it happened when you maximized the preview windows. You could try a workaround. Usually those crashes are associated with memory. Try to save the panorama before opening the preview window, then close and reopen hugin to see if this "cleans" the environment. Another try would be using different versions of hugin, instead of different linux versions.

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
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2012/10/26 Giulio <fotogi...@gmail.com>
Hello everyone,

 i have tried hugin 2011.04 with ubuntu 12.10 (live) and it keeps crashing. The same happens with 12.04 (installed).

Here is a screencast and a strace:
http://sdrv.ms/VtpbGd

(i haven't found the core)

The video card is a radeon 9200 and the os is 32 bit, but the same happens on another pc with ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with a nv17 card and nouveau drivers.

Thank you in advance.

    Hi,
    Have you checked if the video driver is updated - in the installed ubuntu, perhaps possible to update with the live version too?
    Once I had such kind of problems with my debian. The fresh compiled Hugin versions keep crashing when I tried to show the fast preview window, and weeks later I noticed my Nvidia proprietary driver was already a bit old. I don´t know if the fast preview window works well with the nouveau driver, so one test you can do is with the proprietary Nvidia one, if your machine has such video card, of course.

    Good luck!

    Luís Henrique

  
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Giulio

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Oct 27, 2012, 5:04:36 PM10/27/12
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    Hi,
    Have you checked if the video driver is updated - in the installed ubuntu, perhaps possible to update with the live version too?
    Once I had such kind of problems with my debian. The fresh compiled Hugin versions keep crashing when I tried to show the fast preview window, and weeks later I noticed my Nvidia proprietary driver was already a bit old. I don´t know if the fast preview window works well with the nouveau driver, so one test you can do is with the proprietary Nvidia one, if your machine has such video card, of course.

    Good luck!

    Luís Henrique


Now i'm trying with the nv17 laptop (i'm not @ home ) and i have found out nvidia released an updated proprietary v96 and hugin does work (really nice!).

When i'll be back i'll try with the desktop pc, but i don't think there will be an updated radeon driver. I'll let you know and i'll try Cartola's suggestion, and i'll also search for the core file if it still crashes. By the way, is there already a precompiled 2012 rc3 for ubuntu?

Giulio

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Oct 27, 2012, 5:10:52 PM10/27/12
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When i'll be back i'll try with the desktop pc, but i don't think there will be an updated radeon driver. I'll let you know and i'll try Cartola's suggestion, and i'll also search for the core file if it still crashes. By the way, is there already a precompiled 2012 rc3 for ubuntu?

Sorry for the question, found out the ppa inside the posts.

Giulio

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Oct 30, 2012, 1:18:48 PM10/30/12
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Il giorno sabato 27 ottobre 2012 12:39:53 UTC+2, Cartola ha scritto:
I can't say what is wrong and I also use hugin 2011.04 with ubuntu 12.10 using xubuntu in a core i5 with 2GB RAM. I could see it happened when you maximized the preview windows. You could try a workaround. Usually those crashes are associated with memory. Try to save the panorama before opening the preview window, then close and reopen hugin to see if this "cleans" the environment. Another try would be using different versions of hugin, instead of different linux versions.

I have tried again (this time with installed lubuntu 12.04 with the radeon 9200) and it has crashed as soon as it completed the alignment due to some gl error (the same as the strace of the previous time). I also tried to install 2012.0 rc3 and nothing changes.

There is a sort of workaround, changing the preview from fast to "normal", but this makes zooming the preview a bit uncomfortable.

Anyway i have the crash file (was created in /var/crash), in the next days i'll upload it.

Thank you.

Gnome Nomad

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Oct 30, 2012, 1:57:16 PM10/30/12
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Hmm, I seem to recall someone on the list awhile back mentioning that it
seemed to happen when the Fast Preview window was trying to do something
with OpenGL before OpenGL had actually been initialized. Was that ever
figured out?

On my laptop here, with Intel 855GM and the most current video driver
from Sid, trying to Fast Preview simply makes Hugin vanish away. The
workaround of disabling the Overview window doesn't make any difference.

The same Hugin version runs fine on my desktop, which has NVidia display
hardware, so is using a different video driver.

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Giulio

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Nov 1, 2012, 7:58:25 AM11/1/12
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Here is the crash file with xubuntu 12.04 and 2012.0 rc3:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ms52493n8s9tj6/_usr_bin_hugin.1000.7z

Giulio

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Dec 12, 2012, 6:01:20 AM12/12/12
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I have tried again with some different pc and video card.

As far as i discovered hugin 2012 always crashes with nouveau (nv10 and 20 series) and radeon (9200,9250,7000) free drivers. For radeon there isn't an alternative proprietary driver, so it is unusable :( .

The problem is reported on the top of this topic.

Gnome Nomad

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Dec 13, 2012, 3:53:04 AM12/13/12
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Hugin (newest release) silently dies (leaving no crashing file) on my
Toshiba laptop using the Intel8x0 video drivers. So not limited to
nVidia or Radeon.

On 12/12/2012 01:01 AM, Giulio wrote:
> I have tried again with some different pc and video card.
>
> As far as i discovered hugin 2012 *always* crashes with nouveau (nv10
> and 20 series) and radeon (9200,9250,7000) free drivers. For radeon
> there isn't an alternative proprietary driver, so it is unusable :( .
>
> The problem is reported on the top of this topic.
>
>
> Il giorno gioved� 1 novembre 2012 12:58:25 UTC+1, Giulio ha scritto:
>
> Here is the crash file with xubuntu 12.04 and 2012.0 rc3:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ms52493n8s9tj6/_usr_bin_hugin.1000.7z
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ms52493n8s9tj6/_usr_bin_hugin.1000.7z>

Stefan Peter

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Dec 13, 2012, 5:02:11 AM12/13/12
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Dear Gnome Nomad
On 13.12.2012 09:53, Gnome Nomad wrote:
> Hugin (newest release) silently dies (leaving no crashing file) on my
> Toshiba laptop using the Intel8x0 video drivers. So not limited to
> nVidia or Radeon.

I have no problems whatsoever with hugin 2012.0.0.a94faa15c927 under the
said intel driver on my laptop. However, this still is under precise.

If you start hugin from a terminal window, do you get some messages?

Regards

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Gnome Nomad

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Dec 13, 2012, 2:42:55 PM12/13/12
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On 12/13/2012 12:02 AM, Stefan Peter wrote:
> Dear Gnome Nomad
> On 13.12.2012 09:53, Gnome Nomad wrote:
>> Hugin (newest release) silently dies (leaving no crashing file) on my
>> Toshiba laptop using the Intel8x0 video drivers. So not limited to
>> nVidia or Radeon.
>
> I have no problems whatsoever with hugin 2012.0.0.a94faa15c927 under the
> said intel driver on my laptop. However, this still is under precise.

Running Debian Sid here, with that Hugin version, but had the same
problem using earlier Debians and earlier Hugins. This Intel chipset is
the 855GM. What's yours?

> If you start hugin from a terminal window, do you get some messages?

/usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/crop_cp.py
CAT:Control Points
NAM:Crop Control Points
/usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/woa.py
CAT:Control Points
NAM:Warped Overlap Analysis
/usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/top_five.py
CAT:Control Points
NAM:keep 5 CPs per image pair
/usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/shooting_pattern.py
CAT:initial distribution
NAM:6-1-1 Shooting Pattern
MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()
Segmentation fault

Stefan Peter

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Dec 14, 2012, 3:49:17 AM12/14/12
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On 13.12.2012 20:42, Gnome Nomad wrote:
>> I have no problems whatsoever with hugin 2012.0.0.a94faa15c927 under the
>> said intel driver on my laptop. However, this still is under precise.
>
> Running Debian Sid here, with that Hugin version, but had the same
> problem using earlier Debians and earlier Hugins. This Intel chipset is
> the 855GM. What's yours?

Mine is a GM965/GL960

>
>> If you start hugin from a terminal window, do you get some messages?
>
> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/crop_cp.py
> CAT:Control Points
> NAM:Crop Control Points
> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/woa.py
> CAT:Control Points
> NAM:Warped Overlap Analysis
> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/top_five.py
> CAT:Control Points
> NAM:keep 5 CPs per image pair
> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/shooting_pattern.py
> CAT:initial distribution
> NAM:6-1-1 Shooting Pattern
> MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()
> Segmentation fault
>

I get the same line (minus the segfault, of course). Hm, I can't install
Debian Sid on this laptop now, but I may be able to do so over the
holidays to have a look. Is there anything else special in your setup I
should be aware of?

Gnome Nomad

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Dec 14, 2012, 5:01:43 AM12/14/12
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On 12/13/2012 10:49 PM, Stefan Peter wrote:
> On 13.12.2012 20:42, Gnome Nomad wrote:
>>> I have no problems whatsoever with hugin 2012.0.0.a94faa15c927 under the
>>> said intel driver on my laptop. However, this still is under precise.
>>
>> Running Debian Sid here, with that Hugin version, but had the same
>> problem using earlier Debians and earlier Hugins. This Intel chipset is
>> the 855GM. What's yours?
>
> Mine is a GM965/GL960

That's a newer chipset series.

>>> If you start hugin from a terminal window, do you get some messages?
>>
>> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/crop_cp.py
>> CAT:Control Points
>> NAM:Crop Control Points
>> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/woa.py
>> CAT:Control Points
>> NAM:Warped Overlap Analysis
>> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/top_five.py
>> CAT:Control Points
>> NAM:keep 5 CPs per image pair
>> /usr/share/hugin/data/plugins/shooting_pattern.py
>> CAT:initial distribution
>> NAM:6-1-1 Shooting Pattern
>> MainFrame::RestoreLayoutOnNextResize()
>> Segmentation fault
>
> I get the same line (minus the segfault, of course). Hm, I can't install
> Debian Sid on this laptop now, but I may be able to do so over the
> holidays to have a look. Is there anything else special in your setup I
> should be aware of?

I'm using Aptosid, which is Debian Sid "stabilized by Aptosid's own
scripts" etc. Running it under XFCE. A possibility to try: Aptosid is a
Live distribution, so you might be able to run it from CD/DVD, update it
to match current Aptosid, then install Hugin and see what happens.

Giulio

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Dec 19, 2012, 7:13:58 AM12/19/12
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Probably i've found out what is the cause, it's the panoramic thumbnail on the left side of the gl preview (at least on the pc i'm using now, radeon 9250).

In order to make hugin working, i need to launch the program, load only one image and pressed the gl fast preview icon. On the top left of the gl fast preview icon there is something like show-hide panoramic, i pressed it in order to hide it. And now finally it seems to work fine, until closed and started again (since the setting is not permanent, after closing and relaunching it still tries to load that buggy view and so it crashes).

I think it should not be shown by default until this problem is fixed, since the problem doesn't seem to affect only me.

Thank you in advance.

Frederic Da Vitoria

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Dec 19, 2012, 7:28:19 AM12/19/12
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2012/12/19, Giulio <fotogi...@gmail.com>:
Maybe until this bug is completely corrected, the display should be
made non persistent, that is the user would always have to press the
button to get the panoramic.

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Gnome Nomad

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Dec 20, 2012, 4:43:24 AM12/20/12
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Yes, that triggers the bug (I think something in Hugin OpenGL code was
or is trying to use OpenGL before it's initialized?). That setting for
the panosphere/overview is sticky, although there appears no
identifiable entry in the Hugin preferences file for it.

In my case, even disabling the panosphere.overview doesn't help on my
Intel 855GM chipset laptop. Loading a single image and clicking Fast
Preview crashes Hugin.
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