enblend - version 4.0 or 4.1?

[kevin360]

For the main website for enblend it's suggested to still use version 4.0 since there's the bug in version 4.1.  Are there any Mercurial repositories of enblend that can be used that don't have the bug?  If one looks at the development tab in sourceforge there are still commits happening to enblend, so code changes are occurring.  Any repositories that could be used?

Thanks,
Kevin

[Bruno Postle]

The default mercurial branch on sourceforge works well for me and is
apparently near to a stable release, I think this note on the
website is out of date.

--
Bruno

[kevin360]

Thanks, just got it down, but getting some errors with it's output, will post a new thread about that.

[stan]

I just down loaded Hugin 2011.4 and I am encountering a great many problems, for example under Hugin 2010.4 with a 13 image scene there were no problems automatically locating the control points (Cps) and it was easily stitched. I selected the same set of 13 TIFS and using 2011.4 I was forced to manually identify the Cps, in spite of the fact that I could easily see the CPs and they were quite sharp. When I tried to manually select the Cps, Hugin kept putting them some place other than the spot I selected. After a long and tedious stitching I finally achieved a pano that looked satisfactory and I then selected the button to finalize the pano. That is when the real problems began, specifically Hugin now continues to crash when I try to open the pano. I have attached the failure log.

Process: Hugin [65336]
Path: /Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/MacOS/Hugin
Identifier: net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin
Version: 2011.4.0 (cf9be9344356)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [134]

Date/Time: 2012-11-06 17:43:29.229 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63)
Report Version: 9

Interval Since Last Report: 2802951 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 6
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 5085 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 5
Anonymous UUID: D065BF1B-3E60-4902-8344-FB84B681A708

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000

Application Specific Information:
objc[65336]: garbage collection is OFF
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b40a9c6 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x90259f78 pthread_kill + 106
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9024abdd abort + 167
3 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x001b877d celeste::SafeAbs(int) + 125
4 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x00039428 boost::shared_ptr<HuginBase::ImageCache::Entry>::operator->() const + 56
5 net.sourceforge.hugin.base_wx 0x011650a7 HuginBase::ImageCache::postEvent(boost::shared_ptr<HuginBase::ImageCache::Request>, boost::shared_ptr<HuginBase::ImageCache::Entry>) + 183
6 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x0000fa95 huginApp::relayImageLoaded(ImageReadyEvent&) + 85
7 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x005dbbb2 wxEvtHandler::ProcessEventIfMatches(wxEventTableEntryBase const&, wxEvtHandler*, wxEvent&) + 114
8 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x005dbd2f wxEventHashTable::HandleEvent(wxEvent&, wxEvtHandler*) + 111
9 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x005dc60f wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent(wxEvent&) + 207
10 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x005dc6ac wxEvtHandler::ProcessPendingEvents() + 108
11 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x0054ed09 wxAppConsole::ProcessPendingEvents() + 105
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90e5913f __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FUNCTION__ + 15
13 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90e58af6 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 246
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90e829c8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1112
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90e821dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90e82088 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 120
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9530d543 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 318
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954aa4e1 GetNextEventMatchingMask + 493
19 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954aa847 WNEInternal + 434
20 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954a9b14 WaitNextEvent + 53
21 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9548a422 ModalDialog + 1638
22 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954922e1 RunStandardAlert + 741
23 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x00643994 wxMessageDialog::ShowModal() + 2388
24 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x005e302b wxMessageBox(wxString const&, wxString const&, long, wxWindow*, int, int) + 107
25 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x0011d3c2 PT::wxLoadPTProjectCmd::execute() + 3938
26 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x000297f8 CommandHistory::addCommand(AppBase::Command<std::string>*, bool) + 104
27 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x000bc47c MainFrame::LoadProjectFile(wxString const&) + 1628
28 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x00014458 huginApp::OnInit() + 9496
29 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x000157b1 wxAppConsole::CallOnInit() + 17
30 libwx_macu-2.8.0.7.0.dylib 0x00588870 wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**) + 112
31 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x0000f9a8 main + 24
32 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x0000f736 start + 258
33 net.sourceforge.hugin.Hugin 0x0000f65d start + 41

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b40b90a kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e4e04 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e3853 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53

Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b40b02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x90259ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9025b6fe start_wqthread + 30

Thread 3:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.high-overcommit-priority
0 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e4173 _dispatch_update_kq + 20
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e386d _dispatch_mgr_wakeup + 26
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e455c _dispatch_wakeup + 31
3 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e45de _dispatch_queue_push_list_slow + 32
4 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e482f _dispatch_queue_invoke + 118
5 libdispatch.dylib 0x901e3ff0 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 187
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x90259b24 _pthread_wqthread + 346
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9025b6fe start_wqthread + 30

Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b40b02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x90259ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9025b6fe start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x001b8741 ecx: 0xbfffcd3c edx: 0x9b40a9c6
edi: 0xac02b2c0 esi: 0x00000006 ebp: 0xbfffcd58 esp: 0xbfffcd3c
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00000246 eip: 0x9b40a9c6 cs: 0x0000000b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x001b8730
Logical CPU: 0

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[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi Stan,


First of all: Version 2012.0 has just been released and Yesterday evening the 2012 bundle has been uploaded. You might just have missed it.


When switching from 2010.4 to 2011.4 I assume you didn't read the "Read Me First" document inside the dmg. It describes that the integrated openmp enabled enblend is not compatible on (Mountain) Lion. You should use the non-openmp version.

In 2011.4 (but also if you use the new 2012.0), you might also try to first to set all preferences to their defaults on all the tabs of the Preferences screen.

And finally: Since 2011.2 cpfind is the high-quality inthegrated control point detector. autopano-sift-C and pan-o-matic are deprecated. Not because they are worse but they are restricted by all kinds of patents.


Harry

[stan]

Harry,

Thanks for your response.  In your email you mentioned that there was a problem with "Mountain Lion".  However, I am using OS 10.7.5 (Lion) not 10.8.

I just down loaded 2012.0 and I am not impressed.  I set all of the preferences to "Default" and used CPfind to create a quick-look pano.  After spending considerable time manually finding Cps that CPfind was unable to find and then moref time in the Control Point Table discarding some badly mismatched control points (BTW, I then had to go back and manually select additional Cps) I ended up with a quick-look pano that has a horizon that looks like roller coaster.  When I attempted to create the final pano I encountered a Tiff Library warning but ultimately got the final pano.  On the "good news" side, the color rendition across the 13 images is MUCH better with 2012, however, the horizon is ugly.   Version 2010.4 created a "flat horizon" pano with no problems but had an ugly color and brightness shift across the scene.  

Do you think that I should go back to 2010.4?

Stan

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[Harry van der Wolf]

2012/11/7 stan <gree...@verizon.net>

Do you think that I should go back to 2010.4?

Stan

No,

I think you should share your pto with us and you should give some explanation of what source images you use like fisheye or rectilineair, and what kind of panorama you are try to achieve, like full 360x180, 360 or partial.

Some setups are more difficult then others.

Harry

[stan]

Harry,

here is a screen shot of the pano from 2012.0:

[Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)]

Hi Stan,

just to be sure, have you done this step Harry suggested? "In 2011.4 (but also if you use the new 2012.0), you might also try to first to set all preferences to their defaults on all the tabs of the Preferences screen."

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/

2012/11/7 stan <gree...@verizon.net>

Harry,

here is a screen shot of the pano from 2012.0:

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Here is a screen shot of the pano from 2010.4

Here is the pto of the 2012.0 effort:

The set-up with 2010.4 was effortless, Hugin found all of the Control points and stitched the image with no problem.  The set-up with 2012.0 is driving me crazy, CPfind is having problems finding the control points and the image is self explanatory.

My image source is a Canon 24/105 lens.  I do not use Fisheye.  I guess you would call my desired pano to be about 180 degrees (in this example 13 images wide x 1 image high)

Thanks for all your patience and help,

Stan

[stan]

Absolutely set ALL the prefs to default.  I really loved using 2010.4, 2012.0 not so sure.

[Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)]

Can we download your images to try to stitch them? It seams that they are big files... Well, maybe more experienced people here can say something from the pto itself.

I tried here using other images, but it was not good. I would need to provide images that make sense for a better evaluation. One strange thing I noticed is that each image is configured with a different lens and in a first moment it doesn't make much sense for me. Did you do it yourself or hugin did it? Has this file been generated with the auto wizard? If you are trying to do manual stitch you can add CPs as horizontal lines in the horizon. I couldn't see it your file have them. With the images I used hugin had to eliminate some CPs that didn't make sense with my images.

I don't think this is the problem, but for this panorama you can also use rectilinear as the final projection.

[Harry van der Wolf]

In your Preferences, do you have vertical linefind on? If so, switch it off and try again please.

 

Harry

[Harry van der Wolf]

2012/11/8 Harry van der Wolf <hvd...@gmail.com>

In your Preferences, do you have vertical linefind on? If so, switch it off and try again please.

 

Harry

To give some extra info: vertical linefind was NOT in 2010.4 and appeared (as far as I can remember in 2011.4). Vertical linefind is really excellent when making panos with vertical lines in it (I assume you guessed that one already) like buildings and so on, but gives me headaches in landscapes, especially if you have not really 90 degree vertical angles like trees. As hugin tries to morph your images to make them fit, you will immediately get a distorted hoizon.

Maybe that's happening in your pano even though I don't see a "vertical looking" line in your pano apart from "maybe" the vertical shoulders of some of the rocks.

 

Harry

[stan]

Harry,

Vertical line was checked I set Preferences to "Default".  I deselected "Detect Vertical Line" in Preferences and reran Hugin, "Roller Coaster" effect remains.  CPfind still has trouble founding the Control Points; required some manual intervention. Perhaps I should consider reloading Autopano-sift-C or Panomatic?

Thanks,

Stan

[Harry van der Wolf]

2012/11/8 stan <gree...@verizon.net>

Harry,

Vertical line was checked I set Preferences to "Default".  I deselected "Detect Vertical Line" in Preferences and reran Hugin, "Roller Coaster" effect remains.  CPfind still has trouble founding the Control Points; required some manual intervention. Perhaps I should consider reloading Autopano-sift-C or Panomatic?

Thanks,

Stan

Yes, you can always try that.
They all use different algorithms. one algorithm might work better in one situation then another.
I can't give you a best solution.

Harry

[stan]

Can you give me a hint where to find Autopano-sift-c and panomatic.

[Harry van der Wolf]

Look inside the dmg. It has a "Read Me First.pdf" and straight links to the download site.

 

Harry

2012/11/8 stan <gree...@verizon.net>

[stan]

Harry,

I followed the instructions described in the "Read me folder", shown in red below.  The Installer automatically placed the executables in the following location: User/Library/Application support/Hugin/Autopano.  However, when I started Hugin and went to Preferences the executables are listed as "Configured, not installed", see the attached screen shot.   How do I get Hugin 2012.0 to recognize the location that the Installer selected?  I never experienced this problem in any of the previous versions of Hugin.

Stan

AutoCP binary Installers for Hugin. 

In this dmg you will you will find:

- an "Install ..." application that will install the binary or binaries

- and the binary or binaries itself in the Generator folder.

You can either double click the "Install.."  application or drop

the plugin onto the Install application.

After installtion you can configure the AutoCP generator. You can create multiple configurations based on one AutoCP generator.

You start Hugin, you load your images, select the AutoCP generator configuration of your choice and click "Create Control Points" to use the plugin.

[Carl von Einem]

Hi Stan,

stan schrieb am 09.11.12 13:35:

> Harry,
> I followed the instructions described in the "Read me folder", shown in
> red below.

Make sure you follow all the ReadMe files out there: those coming with
Hugin and those coming with the CP detectors.

> The Installer automatically placed the executables in the

> following location: *User/Library/Application support/Hugin/Autopano.
> *However, when I started Hugin and went to Preferences the executables

> are listed as "Configured, not installed", see the attached screen shot.

What you see as "Configured, not installed" is a part of the description
of that particular CP detector setting. It's what you see in the list of
available CP detector settings in the Images tab.

These preset names should give the user a hint that they need to be
configured. Just double click on it in the Preferences to open a dialog
window where you can edit everything just as it is mentioned in the
ReadMe. That's also the place where you can edit the description. Hint:
just delete that "Configured, not installed" part.

> How do I get Hugin 2012.0 to recognize the location that the Installer
> selected? I never experienced this problem in any of the previous
> versions of Hugin.

It's been there for quite some time. And it's one of the rare cases
where I'd like to use the phrase "It's not a problem, it's a feature".

> AutoCP binary Installers for Hugin.
>
> In this dmg you will you will find:
> - an "Install ..." application that will install the binary or binaries
> - and the binary or binaries itself in the Generator folder.
>
> You can either double click the "Install.." application or drop
> the plugin onto the Install application.
>
> After installtion you can configure the AutoCP generator. You can create
> multiple configurations based on one AutoCP generator.

...means: open the Preferences -> "CP detectors", click on one setting
and click on "edit"

>
> You start Hugin, you load your images, select the AutoCP generator
> configuration of your choice and click "Create Control Points" to use
> the plugin.

Carl

[stan]

Carl,

I surrender!  This is white flag time.  

I got the Autopano-sift to function but it too has trouble finding the CPs, even in locations where there is good contrast and the CP features are sharp.  As for the result, take a look at the attached screen shot, there are no words in English to describe this mess.

Stan

[Carl von Einem]

Surrender not accepted for such a simple partial panorama... ;-)

I'm not sure if one can expect good control point detection in the
center images of your panorama. Waves are always a changing and yet so
similar ;-)
For you scenario you'll need some manual alignment via the Fast Preview
window. Hope you didn't you zoom during taking the shots? Make sure they
all use the same fov. Did you shoot them handheld? Wouldn't be a
problem, though.

I also had to tweak the foggy horizon of this panorama and carefully
select some CPs manually:
http://worldwidepanorama.org/wwp_rss/go/n7775

In your case I'd reset all values (Camera and Lens tab) and step by step
optimize while looking for some nasty misplaced CPs.

How about uploading the complete project somewhere so someone can have a
look at it?

Cheers,
Carl

stan schrieb am 09.11.12 14:44:

> Carl,
> I surrender! This is white flag time.
> I got the Autopano-sift to function but it too has trouble
> finding the CPs, even in locations where there is good contrast
> and the CP features are sharp. As for the result, take a look
> at the attached screen shot, there are no words in English to
> describe this mess.
> Stan

complete (hijacked) thread is here
https://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/31ac07859a5ae43a

[stan]

How do you suggest I up load the images, I will change them to JPEG in order to keep the size down.  

At the risk of blasphemy I went to Photo merge in PS 5.5, this was tediously, creepy, crawly slow (unacceptably, I had time to go up stairs and make a second cup of coffee and finished it before PS completed the operation) but PS found the CPs and the horizon was flat; the color was good too.

On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Carl von Einem wrote:

Surrender not accepted for such a simple partial panorama... ;-)

I'm not sure if one can expect good control point detection in the center images of your panorama. Waves are always a changing and yet so similar ;-)  I did not use the waves, I manually selected CP features in the rocks.
For you scenario you'll need some manual alignment via the Fast Preview window. Hope you didn't you zoom during taking the shots? (Did not zoom or otherwise alter the FOV) Make sure they all use the same fov. Did you shoot them handheld? I used a home made NPP on my tripod. Wouldn't be a problem, though.

I also had to tweak the foggy horizon of this panorama and carefully select some CPs manually:

http://worldwidepanorama.org/wwp_rss/go/n7775  I like the shot, it looked more complicated than mine.

In your case I'd reset all values (Camera and Lens tab) and step by step optimize  while looking for some nasty misplaced CPs. One problem I encountered while manually selecting the CPs was that Hugin kept trying to move them some place other than the feature I selected.

How about uploading the complete project somewhere so someone can have a look at it?

Cheers,
Carl

stan schrieb am 09.11.12 14:44:

Carl,

I surrender!  This is white flag time.

I got the Autopano-sift to function but it too has trouble

finding the CPs, even in locations where there is good contrast

and the CP features are sharp.  As for the result, take a look

at the attached screen shot, there are no words in English to

describe this mess.

Stan

complete (hijacked) thread is here
https://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/31ac07859a5ae43a

[Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)]

Hi Stan, if you put your images available send the place here to the list. I also would like to take a look at them.

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://www.panoforum.com.br/

2012/11/9 stan <gree...@verizon.net>

[Carl von Einem]

Best is to zip your images together with the project file.

Either from Finder menu 'File' -> 'Create Archive' or use use Clean
Archiver from http://www.sopht.jp/cleanarchiver/ which I prefer since it
has an option to exclude those ".DS-Store" and "._*" files. They are
invisible on Mac but typically confuse users on other platforms.

There is a number of free online storage services, some usual suspects
are mydrive.ch and dropbox.com
Here is a list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_hosting_services

Cheers,
Carl

stan schrieb am 09.11.12 15:45:

[stan]

Carl,
I've given up for now.
I was able to start at the left and create a fairly decent pano using 6 images. When I added the 7th image the pano folded back on its self. I then went to the right side and created a pano using 6 images, not too bad but it became clear that the waves were causing weird results in spite of manually selecting the CPs. I was planning to send the pile garbage to you via DropBox but DropBox has locked up my machine. Bottom line, I will take a new set of shots (without waves) and try again later.
Thanks for you help,
Stan

[stan]

Carl, Harry

Here is a screen shot of a Crater Lake Oregon Pano.  I used 5 shots, portrait format, with a home made NPP to generate the Pano.

This Pano was completely painless.  I used CPfind and had no problems.

Thank for all your help.

Stan