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Ken @ mississippi estate services
Oct 18, 2010, 7:57:42 PM10/18/10
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| Is there such a phrase as "dressing in cyber drag" or "cyber drag queen" already in usage on the internet? If not, I would like to offer it as a new phrase on the internet and define it as an obnoxious male such as OdinsEye that occasionally uses the avatar and language of a luscious babe to enhance his points of view and to distract from his harshness and lies. I do not think that such a ploy is beyond the realm of possibility. Keep hitting licks, Ken --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Nancy Weaver <nmhw...@msn.com> wrote:
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InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 18, 2010, 10:39:56 PM10/18/10
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If what you say is true, then it's either a paid sloppy disgusting troll with mega issued,sick sense of cyber slicknes, or someone actually thinks like that. Either way, it's clinical. Yet it's so obvious.It's like a schizophrenic crank caller. Long story..nother time.
I think the behavior is clinical.If he's changing his cyber gender, and feels so confident, while providing an opinion, is there any indication that his message and style depend on his projected gender....I hope that made sense.Is he fighting his own demons and playing it out on hp? Concerning his own gender.If this is the case,we got's our selves a leach. Or Host A needy person.The person is at odds with himself. Just call me Freud.
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I think the behavior is clinical.If he's changing his cyber gender, and feels so confident, while providing an opinion, is there any indication that his message and style depend on his projected gender....I hope that made sense.Is he fighting his own demons and playing it out on hp? Concerning his own gender.If this is the case,we got's our selves a leach. Or Host A needy person.The person is at odds with himself. Just call me Freud.
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Ken @ mississippi estate services
Oct 19, 2010, 1:54:19 AM10/19/10
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| Or there is the possibility that the persona of the female was created from scratch just to sow confusion (and with an avatar to make my socks roll up and down) and to have another "poster" that agrees with Odinseye and his ilk. That is one of the problems with the cyber universe, slick bastards figure out ploys like that and the decent, honest ones of us are always in the "catch up mode" if, in fact, we ever figure it out at all. Please do not forget to read all of my emails, spent some time on one or two and thought I would have had some feedback but not just from you. Seems like some are just whizzing off into the ether. Thanks, Ken --- On Tue, 10/19/10, InsideOutGraphics rouslin <insideou...@gmail.com> wrote: |
2706 N8thst
Oct 19, 2010, 2:43:21 PM10/19/10
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Years ago, when I moderated a forum where you could say anything (as long as you didn't take a crap on the community, and the community was former cult members, so they were pretty sensitive to predatory "crap")...we occasionally had people that were "afraid" of being discovered and did "beard" in order to post...they would write in more gender-like stereo types to make sure that the cult groups goons could not figure out who was posting all their "inner circle" info, who was the leaker, etc; it was protection of themselves and family...that is much different than what you've described...this is a reverse and it isn't necessarily something that would not occur to an individual who has few boundaries...this person either has mental problems, such as personality disorders, or is very warped by a "group think" mentality of the patriot fundamentalist (evangelical-driven) movement...which I think may be more common than you think...
It is not uncommon in certain cult groups, especially the Moonies (whom most current fundamentalist evangelical groups are actually modeling in technique, but don't know it) where there is something known as "divine deception"--you can lie, cheat and steal if the other guy is possessed by Satan--everyone who isn't one of "them" is infused with Satan...so they lie, unabashed when they feel "threatened". We see this in Christine O'Donnell and others...very common technique.
So, for one of these characters to masquerade as someone else is within the realm of "divine deception" and they will do it continually. Abusers have no identity...they create their persona instilling fear in others, then, become that "persona"...calling them a "cyber drag queen" will only inflame them to try harder, harder to create another new persona. I suggest asking them about "satan" and how Satan might infiltrate HP comments. That will stunt them, for a while...if not, they will go batchit crazy and start thinking that Satan is talking to them through HP comments...well, if you really want them to go away, that's my suggestion! Trust me, the "satan" thing is part of the deal as many of these "patriots" who believe that Satan will take over the gov'urn'mint if they don't vote their own into office.
It is not uncommon in certain cult groups, especially the Moonies (whom most current fundamentalist evangelical groups are actually modeling in technique, but don't know it) where there is something known as "divine deception"--you can lie, cheat and steal if the other guy is possessed by Satan--everyone who isn't one of "them" is infused with Satan...so they lie, unabashed when they feel "threatened". We see this in Christine O'Donnell and others...very common technique.
So, for one of these characters to masquerade as someone else is within the realm of "divine deception" and they will do it continually. Abusers have no identity...they create their persona instilling fear in others, then, become that "persona"...calling them a "cyber drag queen" will only inflame them to try harder, harder to create another new persona. I suggest asking them about "satan" and how Satan might infiltrate HP comments. That will stunt them, for a while...if not, they will go batchit crazy and start thinking that Satan is talking to them through HP comments...well, if you really want them to go away, that's my suggestion! Trust me, the "satan" thing is part of the deal as many of these "patriots" who believe that Satan will take over the gov'urn'mint if they don't vote their own into office.
Ken @ mississippi estate services
Oct 19, 2010, 3:10:25 PM10/19/10
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| That is a bit more psycho than what I intended. My idea was that they create these "queens" not because they have a disorder in the real world but to give themselves fans and a wider audience for their viewpoints in the digital world under a guise that is confusing at best and totally devious at worst. I will be the first to admit to it: I fanned "Lady Ta-Ta" because the avatar made my socks roll up and down. See ya, Ken --- On Tue, 10/19/10, 2706 N8thst <2706....@gmail.com> wrote: |
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InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 19, 2010, 3:17:31 PM10/19/10
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I think what you're saying closely resembles the attitude of those in The Family, C Street. Jesus plus nothing. Their ends justify their means. Regardless if it's sinful, whatever that means, and regardless if it is against the law. As long as they can manage to justify their actions, it's ok. Be it taking money, over throwing a Country or Government to retaining/control the natural resources....it all is perfectly fine according to them.
If I could get on line with out being tossed into a neuro nightmare of seizures, as I was this morning, due to HP's way of advertising this morning. I know to many it looks like nothing, but it's hell for my brain.
OH NO! They've found my weakness:-)
I went on BuzzFlash and nominated HP for Hipocrtite of the week , if not the entire year. I had some problem posting to BF, but they immediately responded so nicely, TWICE!! To say that I was now able to post with out problems. It was a spam filter, and I haven't posted in so long. But hell, they at least responded.And were nice and respectful about the entire matter. And the issue was resolved.
I also sent them a letter that they ought to seize the opportunity (no pun intended:-)) and how many feel about being censored on HP, as well as HP controlling the narrative, and provided a link to the huff post petition site/comments.
I agree, there are so many real strange people out there that not only have a computer, but they actually vote. Scary!! While I believe everyone should be allowed to vote, but at least be a responsible voter. For the good of all and the Country. To vote according to ideology, is absolutely mind boggling.
Jude
If I could get on line with out being tossed into a neuro nightmare of seizures, as I was this morning, due to HP's way of advertising this morning. I know to many it looks like nothing, but it's hell for my brain.
OH NO! They've found my weakness:-)
I went on BuzzFlash and nominated HP for Hipocrtite of the week , if not the entire year. I had some problem posting to BF, but they immediately responded so nicely, TWICE!! To say that I was now able to post with out problems. It was a spam filter, and I haven't posted in so long. But hell, they at least responded.And were nice and respectful about the entire matter. And the issue was resolved.
I also sent them a letter that they ought to seize the opportunity (no pun intended:-)) and how many feel about being censored on HP, as well as HP controlling the narrative, and provided a link to the huff post petition site/comments.
I agree, there are so many real strange people out there that not only have a computer, but they actually vote. Scary!! While I believe everyone should be allowed to vote, but at least be a responsible voter. For the good of all and the Country. To vote according to ideology, is absolutely mind boggling.
Jude
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 19, 2010, 3:21:56 PM10/19/10
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Lady Ta-Ta You're kidding me, say you're joking:-) As opposed to say Lady Ga Ga ? :-) Whose running the asylum while all these people are out on the loose? :-)
I'm going back in to HP, if I don't come out, send someone into get me. Oh and call a medic:-)
Jude
I'm going back in to HP, if I don't come out, send someone into get me. Oh and call a medic:-)
Jude
Ken @ mississippi estate services
Oct 19, 2010, 3:34:49 PM10/19/10
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| Never underestimate the power of bubbaness. It rules many parts of their anatomy, apparently including the fan button finger. Best of luck, Ken |
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2706 N8thst
Oct 19, 2010, 7:05:06 PM10/19/10
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Sorry...if you're getting to be "messed with" by "persona" abusers you may as well know what their program contains. Two weeks ago, if you recall, one of senators from OK made the exact point/statement of Satan being infused in the government; he said that "somebody" has to do "something" to elect "moral people" or Satan wins and the gov'urn mint falls...that's the program!
I'm not one to take time to "answer" trolls, but on occasion (TexasTimmy or AnnieCA) I will go out of my way to crack jokes at their expense...both are extremely mean people and I do not believe they are paid trolls...they probably drink and start ranting on line is more the likely...
Drama Queens are Drama Queens...if they are a dramatic histrionic personalities, then...hey, that's who they are and they can't live without it, so on line, they can really act out. Just don't let them take you down with them as that's how they play...
T
I'm not one to take time to "answer" trolls, but on occasion (TexasTimmy or AnnieCA) I will go out of my way to crack jokes at their expense...both are extremely mean people and I do not believe they are paid trolls...they probably drink and start ranting on line is more the likely...
Drama Queens are Drama Queens...if they are a dramatic histrionic personalities, then...hey, that's who they are and they can't live without it, so on line, they can really act out. Just don't let them take you down with them as that's how they play...
T
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 19, 2010, 7:45:00 PM10/19/10
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Good advice, Thanks.
Now getting to the Satin stuff. I'm convinced, they toss these words around and there are people that respond like clock work. The old Condition / Response thing. Mention any of the misappropriate use of Hitler, Marxism, Socalism, hell I'll even toss in Taoism,and all the other isms. And these people raise their flag and cross one more inch for Good Ole Dee Mock Racey.
They've got such a network going on, and it shows how long the conservatives have been using a Business Model for many many years. Pre GWB. I think we can probably go back to Kennedy,Johnson era and when Nixon came in they all had a field day as their dreams were that much closer to becoming a reality.
The real part that gets me, these crazies, are only being used.
It's like rent a voter with an attitude. But I can say, those over zealous right wings , will never ever be invited to a social event, because the RW politicians, really can't stand any of them. Just as they used the rel. right.
We still have Rove V Wade, We still have separation of church and state....etc.. Maybe not for long, but.... You see what I'm getting at. It's such a no brainer to watch as all the little propped and conditioned people do their part. Forced popularity of the insane population....wow, I've no clue where it will. Quite a roller coaster.
But keep on doing what you're doing , because we need to.
Jude
Now getting to the Satin stuff. I'm convinced, they toss these words around and there are people that respond like clock work. The old Condition / Response thing. Mention any of the misappropriate use of Hitler, Marxism, Socalism, hell I'll even toss in Taoism,and all the other isms. And these people raise their flag and cross one more inch for Good Ole Dee Mock Racey.
They've got such a network going on, and it shows how long the conservatives have been using a Business Model for many many years. Pre GWB. I think we can probably go back to Kennedy,Johnson era and when Nixon came in they all had a field day as their dreams were that much closer to becoming a reality.
The real part that gets me, these crazies, are only being used.
It's like rent a voter with an attitude. But I can say, those over zealous right wings , will never ever be invited to a social event, because the RW politicians, really can't stand any of them. Just as they used the rel. right.
We still have Rove V Wade, We still have separation of church and state....etc.. Maybe not for long, but.... You see what I'm getting at. It's such a no brainer to watch as all the little propped and conditioned people do their part. Forced popularity of the insane population....wow, I've no clue where it will. Quite a roller coaster.
But keep on doing what you're doing , because we need to.
Jude
2706 N8thst
Oct 20, 2010, 9:06:19 AM10/20/10
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Those who respond to certain trigger words have been taught, via a few techniques going back to Pavlov...but, the funny thing is about Pavlov's experiments is, most folks never read past the "dog is triggered by the bell that food is coming"; his experiment eventually failed...there is lies some hope for some of these followers of Beck, et al.
What happened, was this; the dogs stopped being bothered with him and his game--dogs would fall asleep instead of responding. Why? The brain (in simple terms) shuts down after A. stimuli over-kill (think about watching cartoons with a toddler)--B. a "groove" of sorts, a pathway is formed that is so deep that the respondent just sort of becomes a one-sting guitar. It gets bored. The brain usually needs a "change" or will change itself to another "channel" of thought patterns about every 3 mins. People who try to "stop" this change while in meditation are not usually that effective. It's a primal response for the brain to "move" every 3 minutes.
Sorry for the "lecture", but the important thing to understanding this is; most of these "followers" will get bored with the drum beat message and will seek out new stuff that stimulates (depending on the persons capacity). Those that stay in the "groove" will only get slower and crazier fading into the wood works ( think about all the cults that have sort of faded away/people left even though they were "comfortable", well-fed, etc. within the compound) and or, they become the proto-type Christine O'Donnell...she's a perfect example of a brain that lives in a groove and has gotten slower and crazier with no further advancement (she remains reptilian dominant).
The problem is, we still have thousands who have these experimental "labs" or compounds (think Warren Jeff) and more charismatic (sociopaths) leaders that have been raised to teach the trigger to others...Houston, we have a problem and it has been fomenting for years. Under Bush 1 and 2 the compounds grew unnoticed as did debt and other things...these people are masters of distraction.
Bottom line, YOU and I distract them and call them out with the "stimuli" until they reach a point of "hey....I didn't know that". More another time...this is getting in over the top for most people who could care less about this stuff...but there in lies the problem....
What happened, was this; the dogs stopped being bothered with him and his game--dogs would fall asleep instead of responding. Why? The brain (in simple terms) shuts down after A. stimuli over-kill (think about watching cartoons with a toddler)--B. a "groove" of sorts, a pathway is formed that is so deep that the respondent just sort of becomes a one-sting guitar. It gets bored. The brain usually needs a "change" or will change itself to another "channel" of thought patterns about every 3 mins. People who try to "stop" this change while in meditation are not usually that effective. It's a primal response for the brain to "move" every 3 minutes.
Sorry for the "lecture", but the important thing to understanding this is; most of these "followers" will get bored with the drum beat message and will seek out new stuff that stimulates (depending on the persons capacity). Those that stay in the "groove" will only get slower and crazier fading into the wood works ( think about all the cults that have sort of faded away/people left even though they were "comfortable", well-fed, etc. within the compound) and or, they become the proto-type Christine O'Donnell...she's a perfect example of a brain that lives in a groove and has gotten slower and crazier with no further advancement (she remains reptilian dominant).
The problem is, we still have thousands who have these experimental "labs" or compounds (think Warren Jeff) and more charismatic (sociopaths) leaders that have been raised to teach the trigger to others...Houston, we have a problem and it has been fomenting for years. Under Bush 1 and 2 the compounds grew unnoticed as did debt and other things...these people are masters of distraction.
Bottom line, YOU and I distract them and call them out with the "stimuli" until they reach a point of "hey....I didn't know that". More another time...this is getting in over the top for most people who could care less about this stuff...but there in lies the problem....
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 20, 2010, 10:25:14 AM10/20/10
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Thank you..Loved reading it.
When a brain is stimulated at regular intervals, it becomes harder to elicit the same response.Because the brain expects it. Response declines as the brain stops attending. Be it responses to Beck's nightly bashes, or Limbaugh's one liners.
So they have to run more outrageous insults, lies and propaganda, that coincides with each news cycle.They ratchet up or introduce new scare tactics in the form of a jingle almost. But now I see they're running out of ideas, and are reissuing the older sound bytes/stimuli. And the old becomes new again.
However, when stimuli is presented at uneven intervals, only then does the potential for eliciting an intended response become greater. And the learned behavior or response is more apt to become integrated or assimilated .A learned response behavior....
So based on the old Stimuli Response model, and knowing that right wing extremists have been receiving stimuli on a regular basis or intervals, as evident by TV, radio programming schedules, and compound that with the fact they're now forced into reissuing the old scare tactics and maneuvers,( there's just so many scares one can devise) then I hope to see the movement sort of melt in on itself as people may be responding less to the stimuli that may have once made them respond in such an extremist way. And the fact we're so close to the election, the stimuli is coming at regular intervals at this point, but they're rolling out older stimuli/lies,scare tactics.And the brain does remember, and will quickly become docile to the stimuli, and intended responses begins to decline.
I think that made sense:-)
Jude
When a brain is stimulated at regular intervals, it becomes harder to elicit the same response.Because the brain expects it. Response declines as the brain stops attending. Be it responses to Beck's nightly bashes, or Limbaugh's one liners.
So they have to run more outrageous insults, lies and propaganda, that coincides with each news cycle.They ratchet up or introduce new scare tactics in the form of a jingle almost. But now I see they're running out of ideas, and are reissuing the older sound bytes/stimuli. And the old becomes new again.
However, when stimuli is presented at uneven intervals, only then does the potential for eliciting an intended response become greater. And the learned behavior or response is more apt to become integrated or assimilated .A learned response behavior....
So based on the old Stimuli Response model, and knowing that right wing extremists have been receiving stimuli on a regular basis or intervals, as evident by TV, radio programming schedules, and compound that with the fact they're now forced into reissuing the old scare tactics and maneuvers,( there's just so many scares one can devise) then I hope to see the movement sort of melt in on itself as people may be responding less to the stimuli that may have once made them respond in such an extremist way. And the fact we're so close to the election, the stimuli is coming at regular intervals at this point, but they're rolling out older stimuli/lies,scare tactics.And the brain does remember, and will quickly become docile to the stimuli, and intended responses begins to decline.
I think that made sense:-)
Jude
2706 N8thst
Oct 20, 2010, 2:58:11 PM10/20/10
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Thanks...did not want to go there, intellectualize, the whole nine yards because most people, quite frankly, it's not their "thing" (as in I'm not a techie so most of what gets said goes into the ethers)
Even by reissuing the old sabers rattle props, the big "THEY" are convoluting their own "experiment"...they are counting on people being worked into manic frenzy, a money making frenzy on their terms, or else, why bother? The big "THEY" want a "return" on their time and money. So, Glen Beck has shifted; he's shifted from gold to food stores...as with all cult followings, FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!
Karl Rove did an interview with the German magazine, "Der Speigel' and used a reference (I have to look up the exact quote) to an old German intellect and his philosophic views to the reporter--if his base heard what he said, they would scream like the "pod people" (Night of the Living Dead) when outing/betraying a human. Karl is playing with a full deck, as well as those he has doing his "research"...Karl is not running out of ideas; the only way to stop him is to "out" him, arrest him, lock him up. I digress...the Beck/Rove followers cannot keep up with Karl's ideas--they will be "put to sleep" if he keeps upping the ante...and of course, Beck crazier.
A third possibility is, people will start breaking "the rules", tea party rules and get kicked out of the "group"...they don't want to do all the solidarity "rituals" and will start to question "the money" (they like to think they are independent rebels). That is why there is so much emphasis right now on "where is the money coming from and where is it going"...baggers don't have an answer. Ask on an individual bases: "if your leaders really trusted you like you trust them, then they would show you where they got the money, how their spending it." This gets through to the thickest of skulls...asking questions that take them off script it the very best medicine, disinfectant you can use...it hurts their brain, literally, because it pushes the individual out of the rut, the Pavlovian brain groove.
Even by reissuing the old sabers rattle props, the big "THEY" are convoluting their own "experiment"...they are counting on people being worked into manic frenzy, a money making frenzy on their terms, or else, why bother? The big "THEY" want a "return" on their time and money. So, Glen Beck has shifted; he's shifted from gold to food stores...as with all cult followings, FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!
Karl Rove did an interview with the German magazine, "Der Speigel' and used a reference (I have to look up the exact quote) to an old German intellect and his philosophic views to the reporter--if his base heard what he said, they would scream like the "pod people" (Night of the Living Dead) when outing/betraying a human. Karl is playing with a full deck, as well as those he has doing his "research"...Karl is not running out of ideas; the only way to stop him is to "out" him, arrest him, lock him up. I digress...the Beck/Rove followers cannot keep up with Karl's ideas--they will be "put to sleep" if he keeps upping the ante...and of course, Beck crazier.
A third possibility is, people will start breaking "the rules", tea party rules and get kicked out of the "group"...they don't want to do all the solidarity "rituals" and will start to question "the money" (they like to think they are independent rebels). That is why there is so much emphasis right now on "where is the money coming from and where is it going"...baggers don't have an answer. Ask on an individual bases: "if your leaders really trusted you like you trust them, then they would show you where they got the money, how their spending it." This gets through to the thickest of skulls...asking questions that take them off script it the very best medicine, disinfectant you can use...it hurts their brain, literally, because it pushes the individual out of the rut, the Pavlovian brain groove.
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 1:11:31 AM10/21/10
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Thank you. Interesting.
Pavlov's training was indeed limited and failed.
Animals react and respond more directly --
than human beings.
Humans have buttons to be pushed that they have no conscious knowledge of
-- and are more susceptible than a dog or pig or my cat to manipulation.
"Religion" has survived because humans have deep foolishness and deeper
needs than healthy animals who know what really matters.
Let's distract where we may.
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 1:16:07 AM10/21/10
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I'm so sorry, Jude, that you were treated so shabbily by the HP mod.
It is hurtful. It is so unnecessary. The mod could have given you
helpful information as Red Dog did -- and if he didn't know it at the time, it
should have been his inclination to find out. To be helpful. To
care.
I hope you are feeling better. I think taking the actions that you
have initiated are absolutely right -- and righteous action is healing of body
and spirit.
I'll keep track of your actions and participate where I can.
~Nancy
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 1:22:55 AM10/21/10
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Quote: This gets through to the thickest of skulls...asking questions
that take them off script it the very best medicine, disinfectant you can
use...it hurts their brain, literally, because it pushes the individual out of
the rut, the Pavlovian brain groove.
Have you paid any attention to the thick skulls on the gun threads?
NRA extremists/fanatics? Many believers, many paid to believe. Some
love the game. Some love being part of something ... anything. They
are irrational, they are sociopaths.
Kevin Provance
Oct 21, 2010, 1:34:06 AM10/21/10
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See, I miss everything. Does no one have the power or
know someone who has the power to unban me? Pretty please??
:-)
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 1:46:35 AM10/21/10
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Have you emailed "community support" to request -nicely and
sweetly- (but not groveling) to be reinstated, or to ask how you might get in
their good graces (Hah!) to be a member once again in good standing on the
inestimable HuffPost.
No demands. But request...
You might want to address your email to Moderator
Stephanie. It appears that she might at least respond.
I recommend that if you get back on, do not cast out insults
on how stupid the techs are at HuffPost. Etc.
May luck be with you.
Ken @ mississippi estate services
Oct 21, 2010, 3:30:42 AM10/21/10
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| I emailed community support a time or two but got no farther than the blah, blah form letter. I suppose that in my case, you must be referring to the phrase "monkeys that can't peel bananas" that I used to refer to the tech staff concerning the glitch of clicking on reply in the email alerts and being carried basically nowhere. This was a sudden but sustained glitch for months that brought in mega thousands of complaints with absolutely no attempt at resolution. I lost count of how many times my phrase was allowed to go through and now I suspect that the "glitch" was actually one of their early efforts (though clumsy) to control the conversation and allowed the idea that it was the tech staff's fault to take root for their own devious purposes. Actually, I think that my banning had to do with my letter (hard copy on my letter head
written with a fountain pen to Facebook legal headquarters in which I wanted them to know that I expected my account with Facebook to be between just us and that they had no legal grounds allowing a 3rd party (HP) ANY control over that account. I was gone the day that I suspect that it landed on someone's desk. Did you ever get a clue as to why you and others got a warning and the vast majority of us "banned souls" never did. Huffington Post, thy name is INCONSISTENCY! See ya, Ken |
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InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 21, 2010, 7:29:02 AM10/21/10
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Ignorance and insensitivity is typical, that I can handle. I'm not defined by others, thank goodness:-)
I found a brain article this morning and was able to get this in on the thread. But as of today, still no response from hp. I also contacted the Epilepsy Foundation and it will take up to 2 weeks for a response as they look into my complaint. Whether they do or not is still up for grabs .... Nothing like going online and being hit with the seizure stick, and due to the types of seizures I have, I basically felt like I was thrown into an LSD trip , as I don't convulse because they're controlled, but do continue to have Partial seizures effecting motor and sensory awareness. It was a trippy morning. If I could bottle it, I would be rich:-)
Jude
I found a brain article this morning and was able to get this in on the thread. But as of today, still no response from hp. I also contacted the Epilepsy Foundation and it will take up to 2 weeks for a response as they look into my complaint. Whether they do or not is still up for grabs .... Nothing like going online and being hit with the seizure stick, and due to the types of seizures I have, I basically felt like I was thrown into an LSD trip , as I don't convulse because they're controlled, but do continue to have Partial seizures effecting motor and sensory awareness. It was a trippy morning. If I could bottle it, I would be rich:-)
Jude
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Dr. Edlund, great article, many helpful tips. Unfortunately, it was not read by many on staff or moderators. Understanding how important brain function is then you understand the mechanism of a brain when it dysfunctions as it relates to a seizure disorder, visual stimulation and photo sensitivity. Which is what I experienced the other day due to an ad on hp.Clusters of simple partials sz.'s. And though I brought it to the attention of hp, a moderator's response follows.
Hoodoo X on Oct 19, 2010 at 07:51:33
“I think we need to ban all peanuts on airplanes because one in a thousand people are sensitive.. not. Don't come to this site if it bothers you.”
The above comments reflects ignorance, but to be a moderator representing hp, I find the response insulting, to both those w/ seizures as well peanut allergies., in which deaths have occurred in both .
Incidentally, a web safety check disclosed that this site has 159 errors according to the WAVE, the standard for computer safety and compliance.
So it's wonderful, you provided a great article on the brain, perhaps you should also provide hp staff information the potential effect of visual-stim upon those with seizure disorders. Does not have to be flashing.
( another hp user has since provided info R/T use of ad blockers.)
Moderators Ignorance is one thing, but stupidity is another. I've yet to receive a reply to my inquiries from hp.
Dr. Edlund, great article, many helpful tips. Unfortunately, it was not read by many on staff or moderators. Understanding how important brain function is then you understand the mechanism of a brain when it dysfunctions as it relates to a seizure disorder, visual stimulation and photo sensitivity. Which is what I experienced the other day due to an ad on hp.Clusters of simple partials sz.'s. And though I brought it to the attention of hp, a moderator's response follows.
Hoodoo X on Oct 19, 2010 at 07:51:33
“I think we need to ban all peanuts on airplanes because one in a thousand people are sensitive.. not. Don't come to this site if it bothers you.”
The above comments reflects ignorance, but to be a moderator representing hp, I find the response insulting, to both those w/ seizures as well peanut allergies., in which deaths have occurred in both .
Incidentally, a web safety check disclosed that this site has 159 errors according to the WAVE, the standard for computer safety and compliance.
So it's wonderful, you provided a great article on the brain, perhaps you should also provide hp staff information the potential effect of visual-stim upon those with seizure disorders. Does not have to be flashing.
( another hp user has since provided info R/T use of ad blockers.)
Moderators Ignorance is one thing, but stupidity is another. I've yet to receive a reply to my inquiries from hp.
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 21, 2010, 7:38:54 AM10/21/10
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Well, it seems HP has decided to censor my post. At least for the time being. I wonder what guidelines I didn't comply with . OH it must be, HP has a thing against reality as well . They sure do control it all. It feels as if I am trying to speak and someone has put duct tape over my mouth. Very frustrating, be it a political comment or a neurological comment. Either way, HP creates it's own little reality, that it wants to project to the world.Marketing is everything, I suppose. Jude
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Kevin Provance <kevin.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
2706 N8thst
Oct 21, 2010, 7:08:06 PM10/21/10
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No, I admit that I haven't had the experience that you have had with the gun extremist. And, I agree, they are sick people...a lot of them are very isolated, lonely with their only outlet being cyber-space (and guns). I'm not saying there are not sociopaths amongst them, but I think more of them are profoundly socially retarded; that is WHY they are so very isolated/lonely for attention. Their extremist views gives them attention with a sense of power over life and death...Think Gollum...
They have no comprehension of their destruction, the havoc they reek upon human lives (cyber-bullies, or a hungry lion). Many are abusers or predators; probably part of a multi-generational familial problem. Their "brain groove" is real to them so, they abuse, making prey of others. Unfortunately, that "game" is who they really are--it is their "identity". Without that behavior, they have no identity...that behavior gives them an identity. Sad, isn't it?
However, if you pointed their "identity" behavior, it would go over their heads...they would tell you that they are good people with family and a job in a house with good neighbors...which may be an honest answer, but their real self is the house of prey and abuse, an empty, scary house, one of anger beyond believe and, mostly a helplessness that causes them to strike out...Their on-line "identity" is their "little secret"...they're family probably doesn't know about.
The "thickest skulls" always pay attention when the conversation gets to "how much are we talkin' about". They like to think they know all about the money donated and trusting the people in the NRA to count them "in". Bringing up questions about the money all the time is bound to make them scratch their manly parts...and brag...you can learn a lot about how they tick if you get them to brag.
Other than that, I wouldn't poke a stick through the fence at any of them...
They have no comprehension of their destruction, the havoc they reek upon human lives (cyber-bullies, or a hungry lion). Many are abusers or predators; probably part of a multi-generational familial problem. Their "brain groove" is real to them so, they abuse, making prey of others. Unfortunately, that "game" is who they really are--it is their "identity". Without that behavior, they have no identity...that behavior gives them an identity. Sad, isn't it?
However, if you pointed their "identity" behavior, it would go over their heads...they would tell you that they are good people with family and a job in a house with good neighbors...which may be an honest answer, but their real self is the house of prey and abuse, an empty, scary house, one of anger beyond believe and, mostly a helplessness that causes them to strike out...Their on-line "identity" is their "little secret"...they're family probably doesn't know about.
The "thickest skulls" always pay attention when the conversation gets to "how much are we talkin' about". They like to think they know all about the money donated and trusting the people in the NRA to count them "in". Bringing up questions about the money all the time is bound to make them scratch their manly parts...and brag...you can learn a lot about how they tick if you get them to brag.
Other than that, I wouldn't poke a stick through the fence at any of them...
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 9:48:36 PM10/21/10
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Marketing is everything, I suppose. Jude
Yes, marketing is
everything. Along with control of information.
David and Charles Koch invested in the Mercatus Center at George Mason
University. Marketing, economics, revisionist history: at work for
decades.
Marketing the libertarian view of things through academia as well as the
think tanks and foundations, carpets all information outlets.
Internet. Newspapers. Radio. TV.
Hoodoo is a right-wing operative -- maybe on his own, maybe not.
Awful. Libertarian. He's got his, nothing for anyone else.
Nancy Weaver
Oct 21, 2010, 10:23:15 PM10/21/10
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Excellent. Sound. Profound understanding.
Yes, perhaps I ought to take my stick and go home ... Except I'm drawn to
find out how they have gotten an "in" on HuffPost. It's corrupt.
Thanks for your analysis. I'm going to save it and print it. I
may need a reminder before I once again set myself up as the
predators' "prey." My brain "groove" needs more introspection.
A dusting. I'm glad that I can from time to time accomplish something
like that.
I wonder who you are.
~Nancy
2706 N8thst
Oct 22, 2010, 3:08:04 PM10/22/10
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Who am I? The scourge of the cyber-cult world! The dreaded "SinghX"! (ha)...the name was given to me "singh" meaning lion and the "X" after Malcolm as my mouth seems to get me into all kinds of trouble...
http://forums.delphiforums.com/X3HO/messages/?msg=350.1
if that link doesn't work, you can get to the homepage (hopefully)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/X3HO/start
if that doesn't work, try googling "singhx" and see if you can link.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/X3HO/messages/?msg=350.1
if that link doesn't work, you can get to the homepage (hopefully)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/X3HO/start
if that doesn't work, try googling "singhx" and see if you can link.
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 22, 2010, 4:29:45 PM10/22/10
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I'm liking what I've read so far in the first link. Unfortunate, you're not being published to a wider audience. However, for all the reason's you've listed thus far, I understand why you may not be a contributing Editor to a major paper.
The Bible Barbarians.....Great Article.
Jude
The Bible Barbarians.....Great Article.
Jude
Nancy Weaver
Oct 22, 2010, 4:47:39 PM10/22/10
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Thank you. I've been reading. And thinking.
I'll go back for more.
We've met on HuffPost.
I think.
Nancy
2706 N8thst
Oct 22, 2010, 4:53:53 PM10/22/10
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Thanks. Hey, I don't have an editor so hey, why tone it down when the censorship police haven't decided to shut me down!
I happen to have lots of passion on totalitarian evangelicals...there is something like 46 pieces (!) none of which are not really very nice, white and polite. I would need to toning it down a lot...
I wish I could get published!
I'm afraid my real job, is going to be pulled out from under in the future. I work one-on-one for the uber wealthy; they go from whim to whim, place to place, thing to thing...all of them seem to be getting more and more paranoid, hard to handle, ugly, hard to please and, further from of reality on a daily basis. One of my best buds in the industry was told this morning it was their last day today--he didn't kiss a ring the right way, I'm sure...he was told they were "letting him go" for budget cuts. I know they lie; next week, one of the uber wealthy son-in-law screw-ups, some little son-of-a-sorry-puke, will have the "position"...oh well...X
I happen to have lots of passion on totalitarian evangelicals...there is something like 46 pieces (!) none of which are not really very nice, white and polite. I would need to toning it down a lot...
I wish I could get published!
I'm afraid my real job, is going to be pulled out from under in the future. I work one-on-one for the uber wealthy; they go from whim to whim, place to place, thing to thing...all of them seem to be getting more and more paranoid, hard to handle, ugly, hard to please and, further from of reality on a daily basis. One of my best buds in the industry was told this morning it was their last day today--he didn't kiss a ring the right way, I'm sure...he was told they were "letting him go" for budget cuts. I know they lie; next week, one of the uber wealthy son-in-law screw-ups, some little son-of-a-sorry-puke, will have the "position"...oh well...X
2706 N8thst
Oct 24, 2010, 3:32:08 PM10/24/10
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Just wanted to get back to you and say yes, we probably have backed one another up on several occasions on HP. Your infor/comments are way good! Keep up the work, the grit, the job...T
2706 N8thst
Oct 24, 2010, 4:46:26 PM10/24/10
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Just getting back...
Dee-mock-racey took me a while (duh). Now if we could invent more phonetic spellings of the "banned" words at HP.
When Nixon came in, there we all kinds of movements afoot...my thought (distilled after all these years) is that, the Moral Majority could not "compete" with the new wave of the "new age" that was being fully embraced by not only "da yout" but, writers, artist, actors, every day people (see "A Serious Man") everyone who desired to let their hair down in order to grow out of the narrow little vision mold a white, moral person...you know, the people who perpetually judged everyone and everything from their black and white prism of how life is to be conducted; if you didn't fit the mold, you were rejected, not the "right stuff", not lovable, all kinds of mean, nasty suppressions of all human nature and variation...everything had to pass their "purity test". When everyone laughed at these moral majority types via "Archie Bunker", the game was over for them; they were forced to change with the winds of time.
The problem was those who could never get over the bruising that they were rejected; their morality revealed them as hypocrites. There were those for whom the new age of the world not longer made sense so they went back into their hole and sulked.
What we are seeing today, in the teabaggers, are those who were off-spring of the Moral Majority that did not refute, question or "argue" their parents/authority figures views and morality. They just went along with it, pretending, as if there was nothing wrong, nothing to see here, nothing that would change their world as they were still Ron and Mary Right, going to church, doing the socials, ignoring politics and denying any existence but their own...fast forward to now.... the 2nd Gen.Rumpelstiltskin's have woken up!
And there, smiling in front of them is old Karl Rove to tell them that everything was "stolen" from them while they were asleep and they have to "wake up (white people) and take it back" or them hippies, pree-verts and commies will take over like they did when daddy and mommie was alive....they're out to get "us" and the "american way" of life...get yer guns and let's finish'm off this time. And just like their parents before them, they are not very bright, gullible and are very rigid.
Of course, they are being used, just like their parents before them...and proud of their part in the wacky world of moral abuse.
Somehow, they know if they are abused politically, then the world will be made right again, and then, they can go back to they're idyllic sleep...back to the good old days when institutionalized white was a right and a privileged. Which leads back to Nixon and bigotry, as in the tapes where he spews racial hate and bigotry. When he (his moral authority) was questioned, their whole world went upside down...and I'm not even going into civil rights and how all of that came about...I digress...Back to the Archie Bunker Klan....
Fast-forward to today...these are the second generation Moral Majority. These were kids who not allowed to dress like a hippy or protest the war, date a person of color or find their own spiritual path. They were raised by those who intended their off-spring to saty put, put up with being bullied by "the man" down at the plant or "the boss" at Widgets, Inc.These kids were not only expected to toe the line but were abused if they didn't keep inside the boundary line set up by those before them. No thinking allowed, just do as you're told and you will have the good life here in Bunkerville USA.
I'm with you, they have "attitude" but they really don't know why--they're being sooo used and of course, they will be the losers again.
later...
Dee-mock-racey took me a while (duh). Now if we could invent more phonetic spellings of the "banned" words at HP.
When Nixon came in, there we all kinds of movements afoot...my thought (distilled after all these years) is that, the Moral Majority could not "compete" with the new wave of the "new age" that was being fully embraced by not only "da yout" but, writers, artist, actors, every day people (see "A Serious Man") everyone who desired to let their hair down in order to grow out of the narrow little vision mold a white, moral person...you know, the people who perpetually judged everyone and everything from their black and white prism of how life is to be conducted; if you didn't fit the mold, you were rejected, not the "right stuff", not lovable, all kinds of mean, nasty suppressions of all human nature and variation...everything had to pass their "purity test". When everyone laughed at these moral majority types via "Archie Bunker", the game was over for them; they were forced to change with the winds of time.
The problem was those who could never get over the bruising that they were rejected; their morality revealed them as hypocrites. There were those for whom the new age of the world not longer made sense so they went back into their hole and sulked.
What we are seeing today, in the teabaggers, are those who were off-spring of the Moral Majority that did not refute, question or "argue" their parents/authority figures views and morality. They just went along with it, pretending, as if there was nothing wrong, nothing to see here, nothing that would change their world as they were still Ron and Mary Right, going to church, doing the socials, ignoring politics and denying any existence but their own...fast forward to now.... the 2nd Gen.Rumpelstiltskin's have woken up!
And there, smiling in front of them is old Karl Rove to tell them that everything was "stolen" from them while they were asleep and they have to "wake up (white people) and take it back" or them hippies, pree-verts and commies will take over like they did when daddy and mommie was alive....they're out to get "us" and the "american way" of life...get yer guns and let's finish'm off this time. And just like their parents before them, they are not very bright, gullible and are very rigid.
Of course, they are being used, just like their parents before them...and proud of their part in the wacky world of moral abuse.
Somehow, they know if they are abused politically, then the world will be made right again, and then, they can go back to they're idyllic sleep...back to the good old days when institutionalized white was a right and a privileged. Which leads back to Nixon and bigotry, as in the tapes where he spews racial hate and bigotry. When he (his moral authority) was questioned, their whole world went upside down...and I'm not even going into civil rights and how all of that came about...I digress...Back to the Archie Bunker Klan....
Fast-forward to today...these are the second generation Moral Majority. These were kids who not allowed to dress like a hippy or protest the war, date a person of color or find their own spiritual path. They were raised by those who intended their off-spring to saty put, put up with being bullied by "the man" down at the plant or "the boss" at Widgets, Inc.These kids were not only expected to toe the line but were abused if they didn't keep inside the boundary line set up by those before them. No thinking allowed, just do as you're told and you will have the good life here in Bunkerville USA.
I'm with you, they have "attitude" but they really don't know why--they're being sooo used and of course, they will be the losers again.
later...
InsideOutGraphics rouslin
Oct 26, 2010, 5:24:11 PM10/26/10
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All day I have been deleted, so at least right now, after reading your message, I can say to myself, OK I'm not surrounded by the stupid, the bad and the ugly
Oh the Dee mock racey, just a take off on an old Phil Oaks song , I used to do a lot of his songs when I was younger. Unfortunate, he died, Phil Ochs that is, because I think he would have been having a field day over these last years.And would have pumped out a lot of great ballads.
TalkingVietNam
Oh the Dee mock racey, just a take off on an old Phil Oaks song , I used to do a lot of his songs when I was younger. Unfortunate, he died, Phil Ochs that is, because I think he would have been having a field day over these last years.And would have pumped out a lot of great ballads.
TalkingVietNam
Well I walked through the jungle and around the bend
Who should I meet but President Diem.
Said you're fighting to keep Vietnam free
For good old de-em-moc-ra-cy (Diem-ocracy).
That means rule by one family
And 15,000 American troops, give or take a few
Thousand.
American.
Troops.
Yesterday HP had the unveiling of her Health Site where you obviously need a card in order to post. And today she unveiled
her New York whatever. I tried to post that "HP was everywhere, sort of like Google." Not sure they posted that either.
So I'm not in the trendy club:-) But seriously, she's amassing quite a bit for all her fans to feed from.
Must be the new age tea party, Huff style.:-)
I wonder why someone needs to have their ego stroked as much as AH, plus, I would like to know if she's been fitted for her crown yet?
Jude
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