HTML5 Camp Austin
BrandonSatrom
Jake Smith (jakefolio)
1. I would definitely attend/speak
2. Fall isn't too soon, but I would check on other confs in the area.
I know Lone Star Ruby is going on in Austin during August.
3. I would like 2 days, but 1 day might be more appropriate for a new
conf/camp.
4. Paid, it's easier to get real commitment on attendance to an event
you paid for. I know many confs/events that tried free and it didn't
work out too well, mainly if they provided food.
5. Any would be interesting to me. Workshops, breakouts, uncon, etc.
- Jake Smith
@jakefolio
Tim Thomas
2) The fall sounds like an ideal time given the amount of time it'll take to gather speakers, find a venue, etc., but it's not so far away that initial interest wanes over time.
3) Three days sounds really long and might make it difficult for potential attendees to convince their managers to attend. Hosting it over a weekend (à la Dallas Day of .NET) might mitigate this, though, so the question is whether enough content can be put together to warrant that length of a conference. I've personally found two days to be a good mix.
4) In my experience, there's a point at which people start assuming more value exists if they have to pay for something ("if it's free, it can't be that good"). Perhaps a nominal fee like $15 and, if there's enough margin, providing T-shirts or something? That's assuming the conference organizers don't need the cash, of course.
5) My favorite conferences almost always involve a combination of what you've mentioned: a couple of morning keynotes from industry heavy-hitters mixed with breakouts, panels, and some open spaces during the rest of the day, and hackathons in the evenings (since they so frequently go well into the night, anyway).
jcarouth
Excellent idea!
> 1) Are you interested/would you attend?
> 2) Is the fall too soon, not soon enough, or just right?
> 3) One, two or three days?
getting people there.
> 4) Free or Paid?
Paid. Free would be great, but I agree that it'd be better to get
people committed to attending if it's something that requires a
commitment.
> 5) What types of things would you like to see at this event? (Keynotes,
> Breakouts, Panels, Open Spaces, Code Dojos, Hackathon, etc.)
for me. But a mix of any of those would work just fine for this topic
I think.
- Jeff
@jcarouth
Sam Hooker
Sincerely,
Sam Hooker
Creative Director
FrogSlayer Software Development
512-814-5120
sam.h...@frogslayer.com
Robert Stackhouse
Robert Stackhouse
Brandon Satrom
Thanks, Robert, and thanks for the great feedback, everyone. I’ve captured it all in a planning mindmap, so as not to lose it, but here’s what I’m hearing so far:
- Fall is a good time, as long as we are aware of other events in the area
- Two days seems like a decent length for a first time conference
- A paid conference is a good idea, with a nominal fee as a target (T-Shirts and meals should be provided, if possible)
- Almost every activity format I suggested had at least one vote (which I suspected) so it looks like an eclectic format would be appealing. Not to try and be all things to all people, but to add variety. Presentations and keynotes for those that see the value. Panels for some healthy back and forth and debate. Open spaces for opportunistic conversations and Dojo’s/Hackathons to get your hands dirty. I might be crazy, but I say let’s do ‘em all. J And to your point, Robert. I’m a bit anti-track myself, so I’ll see if I can avoid that, even if there are formal sessions.
Some follow-up questions for everyone:
1) Are you interested in helping make this event happen? (totally ok to say no)
2) How much would you pay for something like this?
3) What types of topics do you want to hear about, or would you want to talk about (anything goes here, as long as it seems like HTML5-related)?
4) Who are some heavy hitters in your world that you think people would come to meet or hear speak?
Thanks again for the interaction, folks. I’m personally pretty excited.
Brandon
Sam Hooker
Sincerely,
Sam Hooker
Creative Director
FrogSlayer Software Development
512-814-5120
sam.h...@frogslayer.com
Mike Wilcox
> 2) Is the fall too soon, not soon enough, or just right?
advance though.
> 3) One, two or three days?
than one day because then hotel costs start to mount.
> 4) Free or Paid?
I agree with other comments that payment would help with the
commitment. It doesn't have to be much - $25 to $79 range. But it
depends on the venue and if you can land a big ticket speaker.
> 5) What types of things would you like to see at this event? (Keynotes,
> Breakouts, Panels, Open Spaces, Code Dojos, Hackathon, etc.)
alongs are cool too.
Mike Wilcox
http://clubajax.org
Brandon Satrom
I'm pretty torn between one and two days at this point. Leaning towards two, but I see the rationale for just one, especially for a new event...
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Subject: Re: HTML5 Camp Austin
Tim Thomas
2) Historically, I've (well, my employer has) paid over $500 for a conference like this. That said, I'd personally pay as much as $150.
3) I'd like to hear about the new graphical capabilities of HTML 5 (specifically, <canvas>, <audio>, and <video>) and would love to present on topics like HTML/JavaScript interoperability and CSS 3. I've given some "HTML/CSS for Developers" talks in the past.
4) I might be able to get Jeffrey Palermo and/or Jimmy Bogard to come, depending on their availability, who can speak on some of the ways we've adapted server-side stuff to work better with HTML 5.
Robert Stackhouse
1) Yes. I'll help as I'm able.
2) $25-75
3) local storage, SVG, canvas, video & audio tags, validation, security, web sockets, functional JS (is this a fad?), semantic markup, microformats (are people using these?), paradigm shifts, future of the web
4) @BrandonSatrom @CalebJenkins @dataplex @dcousineau @gavinbraman @travisward @allenhurst @mrJasonWeaver @baddriverdave @nod @puresight @patrickryan @brianthecoder @plesko @jeffreypalermo (+1)
On May 12, 2011 12:51 PM, "Brandon Satrom" <brsa...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Robert, and thanks for the great feedback, everyone. I've captured it all in a planning mindmap, so as not to lose it, but here's what I'm hearing so far:
>
>
> - Fall is a good time, as long as we are aware of other events in the area
>
> - Two days seems like a decent length for a first time conference
>
> - A paid conference is a good idea, with a nominal fee as a target (T-Shirts and meals should be provided, if possible)
>
> - Almost every activity format I suggested had at least one vote (which I suspected) so it looks like an eclectic format would be appealing. Not to try and be all things to all people, but to add variety. Presentations and keynotes for those that see the value. Panels for some healthy back and forth and debate. Open spaces for opportunistic conversations and Dojo's/Hackathons to get your hands dirty. I might be crazy, but I say let's do 'em all. :) And to your point, Robert. I'm a bit anti-track myself, so I'll see if I can avoid that, even if there are formal sessions.
>
> Some follow-up questions for everyone:
>
>
> 1) Are you interested in helping make this event happen? (totally ok to say no)
>
> 2) How much would you pay for something like this?
>
> 3) What types of topics do you want to hear about, or would you want to talk about (anything goes here, as long as it seems like HTML5-related)?
>
> 4) Who are some heavy hitters in your world that you think people would come to meet or hear speak?
>
> Thanks again for the interaction, folks. I'm personally pretty excited.
>
> Brandon
>
> From: htm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:htm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stackhouse
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: htm...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HTML5 Camp Austin
>
> http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/Participatory_learning_environment
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Robert Stackhouse <robertst...@gmail.com<mailto:robertst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I appreciate the disclosure as would I'm sure folks in the Rails/Django/Zend/(insert framework here) camps
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> 1) I would really like to attend?
> 2) Fall is good. I don't have any pressing need to jump to HTML5. I am a bit of an Open Space fanboi (who's surprised?). I humbly suggest that we stay away from the tracked conference thing, because they usally stink (except in rare cases i.e. TED, etc.). If we insist on going the tracked conference route, I would suggest that Friday evening or 2-4 blocks of the day Saturday or Sunday be given over to workshops/Q&A sessions
> 3) The last event I went to in Austin (AgileAustin's Open Space back in '08) started on a Friday evening and wrapped Sunday before noon. That was a good length for me.
> 4) AgileAustin's Open Space required registration and a contribution of $25 to make sure participants were serious about showing up. I still feel that this is a good compromise.
> 5) Prefer Open Space format. Code Dojo/Hackathon would be great. Panels are ok as long as they are short, targeted and wrangled by a moderator.
> 6*) Doodle poll?
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> I don't like sitting through lectures. If this thing goes the tracked conference route, I'm pretty sure I'd only show up if there were pre/intra-conference workshops.
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> If I want to watch someone speak, I can go to YouTube or TED.com at any time. I'd much rather watch someone code and have them watch me code and exchange ideas (you know, that whole pair programming thing),
> but I'm biased because I'm a kinesthetic learner(http://school.familyeducation.com/intelligence/teaching-methods/38519.html) as I believe are most people.
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> Oh, and I like T-shirts.
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> Robert
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> *Inserted by the author to indicate that maybe this stuff would be more easily digestible in graph format.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Sam Hooker <sam.h...@frogslayer.com<mailto:sam.h...@frogslayer.com>> wrote:
> 1) Count me in!
> 2) Fall sounds good, gives enough time to line up venue, speakers, etc.
> 3) I'd shoot for 2. Single-day functions feel a little bit rushed, where multi-day events encourage more networking. Maybe bump to 3 days for subsequent events, if the first one's a hit.
> 4) Paid. The bums who just want to soak up the A/C can do so at the public library :)
> 5) Hackathon and code dojo would definitely lure me in, and I'd like to see some good keynote speakers.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sam Hooker
> Creative Director
> FrogSlayer Software Development
> 512-814-5120<tel:512-814-5120>
> sam.h...@frogslayer.com<mailto:sam.h...@frogslayer.com>
Robert Stackhouse
Jake Smith (jakefolio)
2. up to $150 per day
3. Geolocation, Localstorage, Canvas, Utilizing HTML5/CSS3 for mobile,
Progressive enhancement techniques.
4. Paul Irish, Christian Heilmann, Jonathan Snook, Stephanie
(Sullivan) Rewis, Estelle Weyl, Chris Coyier, Mark Pilgrim
I think getting any of these speakers would really elevate the
validity of the event, I did not put them in any priority order.
- Jake
@jakefolio
On May 13, 9:01 am, Robert Stackhouse <robertstackho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> 3) WAI-ARIA this is actually a big one for me as I am a bit of an
> accessibility wonk
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> 4) @knowbility
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> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Robert Stackhouse <
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> robertstackho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Yes. I'll help as I'm able.
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> > 2) $25-75
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> > 3) local storage, SVG, canvas, video & audio tags, validation, security,
> > web sockets, functional JS (is this a fad?), semantic markup, microformats
> > (are people using these?), paradigm shifts, future of the web
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> > 4) @BrandonSatrom @CalebJenkins @dataplex @dcousineau @gavinbraman
> > @travisward @allenhurst @mrJasonWeaver @baddriverdave @nod @puresight
> > @patrickryan @brianthecoder @plesko @jeffreypalermo (+1)
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> > > Oh, and I like T-shirts.
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> > > Robert
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> > > *Inserted by the author to indicate that maybe this stuff would be more
> > easily digestible in graph format.
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> > <mailto:sam.hoo...@frogslayer.com>> wrote:
> > > 1) Count me in!
> > > 2) Fall sounds good, gives enough time to line up venue, speakers, etc.
> > > 3) I'd shoot for 2. Single-day functions feel a little bit rushed, where
> > multi-day events encourage more networking. Maybe bump to 3 days for
> > subsequent events, if the first one's a hit.
> > > 4) Paid. The bums who just want to soak up the A/C can do so at the
> > public library :)
> > > 5) Hackathon and code dojo would definitely lure me in, and I'd like to
> > see some good keynote speakers.
>
> > > Sincerely,
>
> > > Sam Hooker
> > > Creative Director
> > > FrogSlayer Software Development
> > > 512-814-5120<tel:512-814-5120>
Jake Smith (jakefolio)
- Jake
On May 13, 4:33 pm, "Jake Smith (jakefolio)" <jake.smit...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Robert Stackhouse
Brandon Satrom
Sorry for the silence of my end. I've been on the road the last three weeks and am heading home from my last trip now. I'll regroup early next week with some next steps and contact the folks who expressed interest in helping out.
And Robert, that's awesome! Can't wait to see what you are thinking!
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Robert Stackhouse
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:06 PM
Brandon Satrom
Ok everybody, I think it’s time to start working to make this thing happen.
First, a few items I’ve been thinking about, in response to your feedback and conversations with others:
1) Cost: Thinking $79 or $99 at this point. This would cover t-shirts for all, food and the like. What are your first impressions on cost? Prefer one over the other?
2) Date: Thinking about a single-day event on either Saturday, October 8 or Saturday, October 15. Any other events that we might be stepping on? Prefer one over the other?
3) Sponsors: I’m making a list of potential sponsors to reach out to, but it would be helpful if you could each give me names and contacts for a few companies that are prevalent and supportive in your communities. Part of making this as cross-community as possible will be to get a diverse set of sponsors. Here are the sponsors I’m thinking about so far:
a. Manning
b. Bazaarvoice
c. Gowalla
d. Headspring
e. Yammer
f. Microsoft
g. O’Reilly
4) Venue and Capacity: For some reason, I think targeting about 300 is reasonable. Is that too many, in your mind? Only venues I’m aware of that would fit us would be AT&T Conference Center or the Alamo Drafthouse. Can anyone suggest any others?
5) Agenda and Structure: Even though this is a one-day event, I think we could do some interesting things with alternate formats. I do think its valuable to have formal sessions during the day, but we can reserve space for Code Dojos as a part of that, as well as have a Hackathon that starts Friday night and runs until end of Saturday and/or something like an OSS bug mash on Saturday night or Sunday. We have options, so if you have some thoughts on this, feel free to volunteer to be a part of the Speaker/Schedule team (below)
6) Speakers: We can and should do an official call, but I would also like for us to personally invite some folks as well. If you have connections with some of those big names, feel free to help out with the Speaker/Schedule team as well.
7) Logo/T-Shirt/Website: Robert has some great logo concepts, so we’re already moving there. Beyond that, we’ll need a website and a venue before we can announce. Anyone want to volunteer to build a fancy pants site for us?
8) Event Name: we need a formal name. Sky’s the limit.
Now, here’s what I need from you moving forward: I’m going to set up a meeting for Monday next week (call since we have folks here from all over) to get things rolling. If you are willing to be on the “steering committee” for this event and you can make the call, please be thinking about how you can help. It’s going to take a group of us to pull this off and really make it cross-community, so please do help if you can. Here are the types of things I’d like for us to divide up and volunteer to help with:
Website
Venue
Sponsorships
Registration Setup & Financials
Speakers & Event Schedule/Structure
T-Shirt Design
Swag
Food
Others?
You can volunteer for more than one thing and we can team up on some of this, but I would like for at least one person to “own” each of these. Also, let me know if I’m missing anything from this list. Finally, please do pass this on to anyone in the area who you know would be interested in getting involved.
Robert Stackhouse
1) Cost: The cheaper the better, I'd rather go with vinyl stickers (hell even foil stickers) than t-shirts for swag if it'll bring costs down
2) Date: The only thing I can think of in my neck of the woods is football. The 8th would probably be better for Aggie fans (away though folks do travel to the Tech game sometimes) than the 15th (home vs BU). Are there any UT games either of those weekends that would negatively impact travel and accomodations?
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/042611aaa.html
3) Sponsors: Here is where I commonly see people going after just the "big fish". Why not have a few different sponsor levels (like all the way down to $10 or $20) and go after a bunch of companies for the lower levels? Why not crowd source funding for this thing? IndieGoGo or Kickstarter?
Small Companies that might be interested in sponsorship:
- Frank (http://hotdogscoldbeer.com)
- Stubbs
- The Gingerman
- Top Notch
- Five Guys Burgers and Fries
- Real Ale
- Thirsty Planet
- Shiner
- Saint Arnold
- Dr. Pepper
- HEB
- Drafthouse
- Fuddruckers
- Justin Boots
- Cavenders
- Local media outlets (Statesman, Austin Chronicle, etc.)
4) Venue and Capacity: St. Edwards. Not entirely sure, but think they donated their space for Agile Austin Open Space back in '08.
5) Agenda and Structure: Going to sound like a broken record here, but Agile Austin Open Space had open spaces on Sat morning with panels in the evening. I like the idea of Randori(assuming that's what you meant by dojos)/workshops/hackathon for Friday night or Sunday.
6) Speakers: We can and should do an official call, but I would also like for us to personally invite some folks as well. If you have connections with some of those big names, feel free to help out with the Speaker/Schedule team as well.
7) Logo/T-Shirt/Website: "Robert has some great logo concepts, so we’re already moving there." See previous email RE t-shirts. I can help out with website, but prefer someone else wrangle that beastie.
8) Event Name: I like HTML5.TX or HTML5.ATX.
Brandon Satrom
Quick update:
AT&T Conference Center quoted me $91 per person. So $20 for around 200 people. {removes AT&T from list} Alamo Drafthouse and St. Edwards are the other two options, and I think one of those will work.
Date will be October 8th. In addition to the A&M game, UT will be in Austin on the 15th, but in Dallas on the 8th. What’s more Houston Tech Fest is on the 15th, so it looks like the 8th is the tentative date.
Keith Casey and I worked up a brief budget and talked location and logistics on the phone today, and we’ll share what we’re thinking in the call on Monday. That should help us set some additional direction and tasks.
Like the idea of crowdsourcing the funding. Not as a replacement to official sponsorship, but a nice tack-on option, certainly.
From: htm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:htm...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Stackhouse
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:38 AM
To: htm...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HTML5 Camp Austin
1) Cost: The cheaper the better, I'd rather go with vinyl stickers (hell even foil stickers) than t-shirts for swag if it'll bring costs down