America's Best High Schools - Irondale
Jean Smith
the One slot. The young lady on the cover, who is showing up at
school in jeans and a tee shirt, goes to Jefferson County IB. The
next Alabama school at 61 was Birmingham's Alabama School of Fine
Arts. There's a wonderful quote for Bill Gates on page 54.
<URL:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7761678/site/newsweek/>
New York took the Top 100 with 20 or so. Maybe we need Regents
and standardized tests for each year's credits.
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Sandra S Beall
lottery more. Right now, Alabama has the toughest graduation requirements
in the US.
However, we do not want to support such things as Robotics, Engineering,
Moon Buggy, Rocket Team, etc, but want to make sure our new school in
Huntsville has Home Ec, Drama, Band, Football, Basketball, and all the
"regular" sports. Kids have a better chance of getting Engineering
scholarships than they do of becoming Professional ball players.
It would be nice if Huntsville would get behind FIRST (For Inspiration and
Recognition of Science and Technology) and support programs like AMSTI which
really make a difference in kids lives.
What really makes me mad is some groups calling teachers "special interest"
when we have not had a pay increase in several years. I know "everyone"
thinks money should not make a difference, but it would be nice to keep up
with inflation.
"Jean Smith" <gote...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Jean Smith
"Sandra S Beall" <beall...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> It would be nice if Huntsville would get behind FIRST (For Inspiration and
> Recognition of Science and Technology) and support programs like AMSTI which
> really make a difference in kids lives.
Yes, but the new scientific explanation is,"God did it." That
greatly simplifies things justifying saving the money.
Krishnan Chittur
> In article <ZLudnXRUzLD...@comcast.com>,
> "Sandra S Beall" <beall...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> It would be nice if Huntsville would get behind FIRST (For Inspiration and
>> Recognition of Science and Technology) and support programs like AMSTI which
>> really make a difference in kids lives.
>
> Yes, but the new scientific explanation is,"God did it." That
> greatly simplifies things justifying saving the money.
And imagine we would not have to spend money on writing and
creating new textbooks, publish papers or do research at all.
Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
<kchi...@spamathena.eb.uah.edu> would say on Wed 11 May 2005
09:40:48a:
>> Yes, but the new scientific explanation is,"God did it." That
>> greatly simplifies things justifying saving the money.
>
> And imagine we would not have to spend money on writing and
> creating new textbooks, publish papers or do research at all.
Not at all. Every time real science discovers something major,
creation "science" has to backpedal and come up with something else.
Stuff that's true pretty much stays true.
--
Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen
bob at crispen dot org
Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/
Why is a record company any more qualified to send an MP3 to iTunes
than I am? - Moby
hsv
collective bargaining from the citizens of the state, a would easily be
castigated as "special interest". This groups mission all the while
holding to a liberal anti-Christian agenda and dogma, so well illustrated in
your rumblings of thought, posturing and evoking anger against the VAST
majority of the citizens of the state, namely Christian Bible believing
moral people, one could argue is led by less than stellar minds in obtaining
your goals.
Obtaining a B.A. in Education is noble, but rather easy in contract to the
rigors of other noble academic and vocational pursuits. In my opinion, one
need only an AA degree to teach grades k-12. Engineering, law, chemistry,
physics, other hard sciences, composer, music, are more challenging
academic pursuits. Many of which are rewarded with higher pay than
teachers.
In terms of the Newsweek article. This magazine is a joke. That fact
that a teacher supporter would reference this, is quite telling concerning
the cognitive skills of some noted persons in this profession.
Also last time I checked, Gunn High school in Palo Alto, (heart of the
Silicon Valley, and next to Stanford University), and for the past 10 years
in California has been mostly ranked as the #1 school in the state, scored
an average of 25 on ACT examine.
Well guess which Alabama school(s) scored the same or better on the ACT than
California TOP school? And which schools scored 24s and 23s?
The problem in Alabama is not our top schools, but our poor performing
schools, with poor discipline, mostly from home. This I feel for the
teachers in having to not only teach, but play mother, father, and
grandparent to some unruly kids.
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Jean Smith
"hsv" <hsvite...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Liberal anti-Christian agenda and dogma" sounds like a rabid
right wing delusion to me.
I worked with plenty of former educators who found a better
living providing technical support to my projects. They did just
fine.
You're projecting on that teacher supporter bit.
It surprised me that we had two more schools on the list than
Pennsylvania.
In what language is "examine" a noun?
I give up. Which Alabama schools scored better?
hsv
(1) Briarwood Presbyterian
(2) Mountain Brook (ACT 25.42)
... <others>
One would have concluded that the astute engineers and their offspring in
Huntsville would hold the top scores. Why are engineers kids not scoring in
the top? (Serious question, not satire). In the Silicon Valley, Gunn High
School, in Palo Alto has many engineers kids as well. Interesting.
Stated once more miss liberal: raising the teachers salaries is not the main
problem in Alabama, as well as other states.
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Josie Morgan
>I see you are unable to do your own research. No surprise.
>
>(1) Briarwood Presbyterian
>(2) Mountain Brook (ACT 25.42)
>... <others>
>One would have concluded that the astute engineers and their offspring in
>Huntsville would hold the top scores. Why are engineers kids not scoring in
>the top?
Why do you assume the children at Briarwood or Mountain Brook are not the
children of engineers?
I believe Briarwood is in Mountain Brook, if not in the city limits, in
the same general area. Mountain Brook's per capita income is over $100,00
-- but a lot of the wealth in that area does not come from earned income.
The citizens of Mt. Brook have choosen to pay higher taxes for improved
schools, but they also have significant other resources to help their
children.
(Interesting to note that Briarwoo'd tuition is less than Randolph
though.)
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-Josie
hsv
proving my point so clearly! If they cost American lives with their lies,
throw them in jail, and charge them with murder.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050516/D8A4CU901.html
White House Wants Retraction From Newsweek
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hsv
2000, was computed to be, "The per capita income for the city is $59,085"
(1).
(1) http://www.hometownusa.com/al/Mountain_Brook.html
In terms of engineers, my comment comes with no data, simply experiences,
friends in Bham area, and understanding of financial makeup of Huntsville
vs. Bham economies. My friends in Mt Brook are: business owners, JD, and MD
friends, stock brokers, real estate, etc., and engineer friends live in
Hoover. Small sample size, I'll give you. Perhaps you can lookup some
data supporting a large percentage basis of engineers in Mt. Brook, vs,
shall we say, Madison. Otherwise, I will stand by my "best quess" I used in
my statement.
thanks
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Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
on Mon 16 May 2005 12:57:00p:
> Hey Ms Jeanie, your Newsweek crack team of democratic liberal
> writers is proving my point so clearly! If they cost American
> lives with their lies, throw them in jail, and charge them with
> murder.
You misspelled "corporate". Newsweek is 1% liberal and 99%
corporate. Of course, the fact that Newsweek isn't 100% gung-ho
conservative is enough for most conservatives to consider it The
Enemy, but facts is facts. The corporate media, on the one day when
they got up off their lazy fat asses to try to find a story, screwed
it up.
Jean Smith
"hsv" <hsvite...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Just when I thought I saw some light in Alabama's Schools.
Gary Heston
hsv <hsvite...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hey Ms Jeanie,
FYI, it's Mr. Jean.
> your Newsweek crack team of democratic liberal writers is
>proving my point so clearly! If they cost American lives with their lies,
>throw them in jail, and charge them with murder.
>http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050516/D8A4CU901.html
>White House Wants Retraction From Newsweek
[ ... ]
I expect the most we can hope for is a few people getting fired after
several months, as with Rather.
Gary
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Windows is like SUVs; a bad idea, poorly implemented, unsafe, with a
lot of inept users, but a fact of life we have to put up with.
Big Ted
support such things as Robotics, Engineering, Moon Buggy, Rocket Team
and Engineering Fair, and Randolph did the same in Science Olympiad.
It doesn't take "Huntsville" to support science, all it takes is a few
competent, dedicated teachers in each school.
Bob Wilson
> . . . all it takes is a few
> competent, dedicated teachers in each school.
Who will work for the peanuts paid to our teachers. We had three school
tax items to vote on a couple of years ago and the one that would have
handled the 'proration cuts' was defeated.
BTW, if you find one of those 'dedicated' science teachers, send them my
way. We'll hire them for a lot more than they make in the school system
for a bunch of ungrateful Huntsville voters.
Bob Wilson
Big Ted
Bob Wilson
> The private schools don't seem to have a problem finding good teachers.
Good for them (and good riddance!) I remember my private school
teachers. What a bunch of nuts barely able to hold a steady job. It is a
good thing they are isolated. They along with the rest of the school led
me to asking my parent to let me go to public school.
The private, parochial school had an agenda removed from hard science.
Transferring to public school let me escape from a school with a library
of barely a 1,000 books, 1/3 religious and with only the encyclopedia
and dictionary having anything to say about rockets and jets. I
transferred to a public school with a 20,000+ volume library and a whole
shelf of books about rockets and aircraft.
The private school had no concept of drafting or electronics since those
were 'vocational tech' courses. But they were exactly the pre-requisites
I needed for engineering.
Bob Wilson
thomas
Wilson) wrote:
>But they were exactly the pre-requisites
>I needed for engineering.
I didn't know you were an Engineer Bob. Just what is your degree
again?
Bo Williams
> Big Ted <ted....@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The private schools don't seem to have a problem finding good teachers.
>
>
> Good for them (and good riddance!) I remember my private school
> teachers.
Reform school isn't the same thing.
> What a bunch of nuts barely able to hold a steady job.
I remember fondly nearly all of my teachers at the two private schools I
attended. Two months ago I drove to Anniston to have dinner with my
fourth-grade English teacher and her husband. She was special to me in
1979, and she's still that same special lady today. It was quite
heartwarming.
[...]
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Bob Wilson
> Bob Wilson wrote:
> > Big Ted <ted....@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The private schools don't seem to have a problem finding good teachers.
> >
> >
> > Good for them (and good riddance!) I remember my private school
> > teachers.
>
> Reform school isn't the same thing.
Ah, sounds like the voice of experience.
> > What a bunch of nuts barely able to hold a steady job.
>
> I remember fondly nearly all of my teachers at the two private schools I
> attended. Two months ago I drove to Anniston to have dinner with my
> fourth-grade English teacher and her husband. She was special to me in
> 1979, and she's still that same special lady today. It was quite
> heartwarming.
From 1962-64 I attended an Episcopal middle school and other than our
student run model rocket club and the science class, the rest was best
forgotten. It was expensive; had an inferior library; pretty on the
outside but hollow on the inside. With small classes, the nutty
instructors could behave badly and you were grateful for the rest to be
mostly harmless. I told my parents I didn't want to go there any longer
and never looked back.
In contrast, the public school had a huge library and a vocational tech
department with drafting and electronics. The classes were two and three
times larger (not counting the auditorium classes) which meant the
teachers taught and didn't try to create marionettes. They had no choice
but to follow the book and no time for 'mind games.' During the summer,
I could take additional classes like chemistry which the private school
could not offer.
Of all of my teachers, only the public school teachers are worth
remembering. There was Mr. Tiger who taught vocational tech electronics
(two class sessions each day with over $1,000 of 1966-67 equipment per
student.) Then there was Mme. Fagan who taught three years of French. As
for the rest, they were mostly harmless.
The most important lesson learned from school:
Learning to learn on your own.
Bob Wilson
Bob Wilson
> >But they were exactly the pre-requisites
> >I needed for engineering.
>
> I didn't know you were an Engineer Bob. Just what is your degree
> again?
Non-degreed and quite happy about it. I just keep getting positions on
merit with engineering titles like "Senior Network Engineer." The pay is
the same and since the early 80s, usually better.
What a great country we live in where merit counts.
Bob Wilson
May
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May
"If the enemy is in range, so are you." -Infantry Journal
Big Ted
Jeff Finlayson
> So do private school teachers have to belong to the state teachers union?
Joining a union of any kind is not required in Alabama. It's a right
to work state.