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PaulP...@bigfoot.com

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Dec 4, 2001, 1:51:24 PM12/4/01
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I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade, lock
blade, approx. 2 in. blade. It was great for the basic stuff I used it for
(peeling oranges, cutting tape, etc.). THe things I liked about it:
* blade opened easily - I could "flip" it open with one hand
* fairly small. Didn't make a bulge in my pocket
* stayed sharp reasonably well

The things I didn't like:
* kept falling out of my pocket
* sometimes seemd *too* small

Ideas?

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Jim Garrett

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Dec 4, 2001, 2:14:58 PM12/4/01
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 18:51:24 -0000, PaulP...@BigFoot.com wrote:

> I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
> WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade, lock
> blade, approx. 2 in. blade. It was great for the basic stuff I used it for
> (peeling oranges, cutting tape, etc.). THe things I liked about it:
> * blade opened easily - I could "flip" it open with one hand
> * fairly small. Didn't make a bulge in my pocket
> * stayed sharp reasonably well
>
> The things I didn't like:
> * kept falling out of my pocket
> * sometimes seemd *too* small
>
> Ideas?

I'm not big into knives but for just everyday pocket use, Sears has
a nice little collection, even if, from an aficionados's viewpoint,
they may not have the very best knives in the world. Their Craftsman
guarantee extends to their (Craftsman) knives. Sears is easy to find
if you ever need an exchange and they will fix you up on the spot.
I've had a Craftsman knife in my pocket for 20 or 25 years and have
had to replace it twice, I think. Only paid for it once and have been
very satisfied with the quality.

Of course their guarantee doesn't cover loss. (I think some knife
companies actually do provide loss coverage, but I don't know how it
works.)

Jim

Greg Bacon

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Dec 4, 2001, 2:20:23 PM12/4/01
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In article <u0q6pcn...@corp.supernews.com>,
<PaulP...@BigFoot.com> wrote:

: I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.

: WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade, lock
: blade, approx. 2 in. blade. It was great for the basic stuff I used it for
: (peeling oranges, cutting tape, etc.). THe things I liked about it:
: * blade opened easily - I could "flip" it open with one hand
: * fairly small. Didn't make a bulge in my pocket
: * stayed sharp reasonably well
:
: The things I didn't like:
: * kept falling out of my pocket
: * sometimes seemd *too* small
:
: Ideas?

I carry a Gerber serrated LST with E-Z-Out (Gerber's name for one-hand
open) that I got from Wal-Mart for about twenty bucks. I can't find
the same model on the Gerber site[*], but the closest model on the site
seems to be the Magnum L.S.T. Serrated. I've had mine for a couple of
years and been happy with it.

[*] <URL:http://www.gerberstore.com/default.html>

I don't have problems with mine falling out of my pocket, but you
could always get a knife with a clip on it. With a 2.5" locking blade
and especially the serrated edge, I haven't found a pocket knife sized
job that it wouldn't handle.

Greg
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proves that the programs are very efficient; they do exactly what they're
designed to do.
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Ron Hammon

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Dec 4, 2001, 2:38:23 PM12/4/01
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PaulP...@BigFoot.com wrote:
>
> I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
> WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade, lock
> blade, approx. 2 in. blade. It was great for the basic stuff I used it for
> (peeling oranges, cutting tape, etc.). THe things I liked about it:
> * blade opened easily - I could "flip" it open with one hand
> * fairly small. Didn't make a bulge in my pocket
> * stayed sharp reasonably well
>
> The things I didn't like:
> * kept falling out of my pocket
> * sometimes seemd *too* small
>
> Ideas?
>

Me!
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reply.

GS

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Dec 4, 2001, 4:01:27 PM12/4/01
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In article <u0q6pcn...@corp.supernews.com>, PaulP...@BigFoot.com wrote:
>I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
>WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade, lock
>blade, approx. 2 in. blade. It was great for the basic stuff I used it for
>(peeling oranges, cutting tape, etc.). THe things I liked about it:
>* blade opened easily - I could "flip" it open with one hand
>* fairly small. Didn't make a bulge in my pocket
>* stayed sharp reasonably well
>
>The things I didn't like:
>* kept falling out of my pocket
>* sometimes seemd *too* small
>
>Ideas?
>
Have a look at Reid Hardware on N. Parkway across from Larry's
Pistol and Pawn. He usually has a real good selection of all kinds
and brands of knives to choose from.

GS

Michael M. Sutton

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Dec 5, 2001, 10:49:00 AM12/5/01
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PaulP...@BigFoot.com wrote:
>
> I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.

Surely the airport security workers will be selling the one's they've
been confiscating.....

Carol Farquhar

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Dec 5, 2001, 1:06:01 PM12/5/01
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 18:51:24 -0000, PaulP...@BigFoot.com wrote:

>I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.

>WHere's a good place to get a good one? My old one was a Schrade....

<snip>

Ask O.J. Simpson. I hear he can also get you a deal on satellite
receivers.


Gary Heston

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Dec 5, 2001, 7:16:03 PM12/5/01
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According to Carol Farquhar <car...@hiwaay.net>:

><snip>

And don't worry about that white powder dribbling out of the back,
it's _not_ anthrax.


Gary

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This item has been intercepted by the Echelon Project. So have all
of yours....

Melissa

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"Carol Farquhar" <car...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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Interesting you would mention OJ. I don't about anything about knives, but
I did see a rather unusual OJ/knife parody.
Caution: Un-P.C. Adult Humor of Sensitive Nature Follows.
http://www.christslove.com/wtc/pages/01abinsimp.htm
Melissa


Unclaimed Mysteries

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Dec 5, 2001, 9:59:46 PM12/5/01
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<PaulP...@BigFoot.com> wrote in part:

> I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
> WHere's a good place to get a good one?

Your Federal Knife and Nail Clipper Discount Superstore, located near every
airport. New shipments arriving daily! Daily, heck - HOURLY! We're
0V3R5T0CK3D!!!!!!

Corry
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Jerry Slaughter

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Dec 5, 2001, 10:35:52 PM12/5/01
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Get a Leatherman! I have several in differing sizes. Its amazing what you
can use one for. I keep the larger one in my car at all times, the mid-sized
one with needle nose pliers in my briefcase and the micra with the scissors
in my pocket. Granted, they can get a little pricey, especially the large
one (around $50). I did see the micra on sale at Target (in your choice of
red or blue) for about $12. I paid $22 for mine when they first came out.
Beware of the el-cheapo knock-offs though.

In my line of work (Paramedic) you learn the value of good tools. I have
given these as gifts to all of my family at various times.

Jerry Slaughter

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rms

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Dec 6, 2001, 1:22:13 AM12/6/01
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><PaulP...@BigFoot.com> wrote in part:
>
>> I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
>> WHere's a good place to get a good one?

http://www.smokymountainknife.com

rms

rms

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Dec 6, 2001, 1:49:41 AM12/6/01
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In article <u0u3kl2...@corp.supernews.com>, r...@hywaaay.not says...

>http://www.smokymountainknife.com

This site isn't working at this time but it may be
fixed later. They have a gazillion pocket knives.
rmw

Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)

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Dec 6, 2001, 6:44:43 AM12/6/01
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Jerry Slaughter <jer...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> I did see the micra on sale at Target (in your choice of
> red or blue) for about $12. I paid $22 for mine when they first came out.
> Beware of the el-cheapo knock-offs though.

I've seen the cheapos and wonder what are the weak points to watch out
for? Soft metal? Pop-rivet hinges?

Bob Wilson

Jerry Slaughter

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Dec 6, 2001, 8:45:35 AM12/6/01
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"Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)" <bwils...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've seen the cheapos and wonder what are the weak points to watch out
> for? Soft metal? Pop-rivet hinges?

All of the above. I have seen plastic handles, poor steel selection for the
blades, poor pivot joints. You won't get 440 carbon steel blades on the good
ones, but you do get something that will hold an edge for a while and can be
sharpened. Also look at the locking mechanism that they use to retain the
blades/tools in a working position. 2 other good brands are Gerber ( I used
one of these for several years) and SOG. My partner swore by his SOG, I
never used one so I can't comment on it personally.

If I had to pick just 1 I would go with the large Leatherman. Good size for
most jobs, sturdy construction, and it has a straight blade as well as a
serated edge that is extremely sharp. Its a little bulky to keep in your
pocket, but it comes with a nice nylon belt case.

I used mine to literraly save a young man from paralysis on a rescue. He had
fallen off of a bluff and suffered a neck fx. I was able to cut away a thick
leather coat without moving him so that I could apply immobilization devices
on him to prepare him for the extraction. He is walking fine to this
day.This is why I swear by the tool. I know I sound like a salesman but I'm
just a happy customer. I wash I could get a percentage for the number I have
either bought or recommended over the years.

Jerry Slaughter

Ron Hammon

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Dec 6, 2001, 8:59:43 AM12/6/01
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Jerry Slaughter wrote:
>
> "Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)" <bwils...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1f3zbhz.1q711hewppbsvN%bwils...@hotmail.com...
> >
> > I've seen the cheapos and wonder what are the weak points to watch out
> > for? Soft metal? Pop-rivet hinges?
>
> All of the above. I have seen plastic handles, poor steel selection for the
> blades, poor pivot joints. You won't get 440 carbon steel blades

One small point, 440(C) is a popular grade of the hardest "stainless"
steels, not carbon steel.

on the good
> ones, but you do get something that will hold an edge for a while and can be
> sharpened. Also look at the locking mechanism that they use to retain the
> blades/tools in a working position. 2 other good brands are Gerber ( I used
> one of these for several years) and SOG. My partner swore by his SOG, I
> never used one so I can't comment on it personally.
>
> If I had to pick just 1 I would go with the large Leatherman. Good size for
> most jobs, sturdy construction, and it has a straight blade as well as a
> serated edge that is extremely sharp. Its a little bulky to keep in your
> pocket, but it comes with a nice nylon belt case.
>
> I used mine to literraly save a young man from paralysis on a rescue. He had
> fallen off of a bluff and suffered a neck fx. I was able to cut away a thick
> leather coat without moving him so that I could apply immobilization devices
> on him to prepare him for the extraction. He is walking fine to this
> day.This is why I swear by the tool. I know I sound like a salesman but I'm
> just a happy customer. I wash I could get a percentage for the number I have
> either bought or recommended over the years.
>
> Jerry Slaughter

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CJF

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Dec 6, 2001, 9:15:21 AM12/6/01
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Ron Hammon wrote:
> Jerry Slaughter wrote:
> > "Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)" <bwils...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've seen the cheapos and wonder what are the weak points to watch out
> > > for? Soft metal? Pop-rivet hinges?
> >
> > All of the above. I have seen plastic handles, poor steel selection for the
> > blades, poor pivot joints. You won't get 440 carbon steel blades
>
> One small point, 440(C) is a popular grade of the hardest "stainless"
> steels, not carbon steel.

Ron beat me to this one. 400 series stainless steel can rust to some extent
per a materials person. It isn't used in aerospace for this reason, I believe.

Greg Bacon

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Dec 6, 2001, 9:29:09 AM12/6/01
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In article <PAKP7.94555$lV4.12...@e420r-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
Jerry Slaughter <jer...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

: [...]
: I used mine to literraly save a young man from paralysis on a rescue.


: He had fallen off of a bluff and suffered a neck fx.

Is "fx" short for fracture?

: I was able to cut


: away a thick leather coat without moving him so that I could apply
: immobilization devices on him to prepare him for the extraction. He is
: walking fine to this day.This is why I swear by the tool. I know I
: sound like a salesman but I'm just a happy customer. I wash I could
: get a percentage for the number I have either bought or recommended
: over the years.

You ought to write to the company telling them your remarkable story.
Maybe you and the guy you saved could land an endorsement deal out of
it.

Greg
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All my disaster recovery tools start with #!/mnt/opt/perl/bin/perl -w

Ron Hammon

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Dec 6, 2001, 9:55:32 AM12/6/01
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CJF wrote:
>
> Ron Hammon wrote:
> > Jerry Slaughter wrote:
> > > "Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)" <bwils...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've seen the cheapos and wonder what are the weak points to watch out
> > > > for? Soft metal? Pop-rivet hinges?
> > >
> > > All of the above. I have seen plastic handles, poor steel selection for the
> > > blades, poor pivot joints. You won't get 440 carbon steel blades
> >
> > One small point, 440(C) is a popular grade of the hardest "stainless"
> > steels, not carbon steel.
>
> Ron beat me to this one. 400 series stainless steel can rust to some extent
> per a materials person. It isn't used in aerospace for this reason, I believe.
>
snip

Aerospace enjoys costly, exotic stuff. The government is against
sole-sourcing, by regulation. There is one material standard that, to
avoid using the registered trade name of a unique steel, is titled by
the specific chemical composition. (Which, by the way, is not enough
information to reproduce it.) I forget the name, but I have had to use
it a few times. It is 235 KSI stainless!! (For comparison, cheap,
stainless screws are 35 KSI; hardened, black steel screws and files are
100 KSI.)

There is a type of polymer that I've used twice, for aerospace, of
course. It's too early for me to think of the name (Vespel, maybe?),
but it comes only in 8" diameter rods and it sold by the inch... $1000
per inch! It is a little better in every measure compared to anything
else. But, hey!

I think that a valid career choice would be to develop a unique,
somewhat superior material and extort NASA to use it.

Greg Bacon

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Dec 6, 2001, 10:14:02 AM12/6/01
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In article <3C0F86...@hiwaay.net>,
Ron Hammon <ham...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

: [...]
: I think that a valid career choice would be to develop a unique,


: somewhat superior material and extort NASA to use it.

Hell, it'd be much easier to come up with some crazy idea (such as
plastic bags for umbrellas to keep the floor dry) and convince the
NASA safety people that they need to buy a million of 'em.

Greg
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having government force one answer on everyone.
-- Harry Browne

Jerry Slaughter

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Dec 6, 2001, 7:33:24 PM12/6/01
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"Greg Bacon" <gba...@HiWAAY.net> wrote in message
news:u0v05lj...@corp.supernews.com...

> In article <PAKP7.94555$lV4.12...@e420r-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
> Jerry Slaughter <jer...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> : [...]
> : I used mine to literraly save a young man from paralysis on a rescue.
> : He had fallen off of a bluff and suffered a neck fx.
>
> Is "fx" short for fracture?

Yes it is, sorry I sometimes revert back to my medical shorthand without
realizing it. What he technically had was a subluxation, which is disocation
of the cervical spine with (if I remember correctly) some chip fractures of
the vertibrae. It's easier sometimes just to say he had a broke neck.


>
> You ought to write to the company telling them your remarkable story.
> Maybe you and the guy you saved could land an endorsement deal out of
> it.

I don't go for that kind of self promotion, not why I got into the
profession.

As for the type of steel, sorry again, I'm not a metallurgist, just a humble
Paramedic. Drugs I know, composition of metals I'm a little weak on. I just
remember on some better blades seein the 440 (c) stamp on the blade.

Jerry Slaughter

Bob Wilson (Holly's toy)

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Dec 6, 2001, 7:53:40 PM12/6/01
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Ron Hammon <ham...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> > All of the above. I have seen plastic handles, poor steel selection for the
> > blades, poor pivot joints. You won't get 440 carbon steel blades
>
> One small point, 440(C) is a popular grade of the hardest "stainless"
> steels, not carbon steel.
>
> on the good
> > ones, but you do get something that will hold an edge for a while and can be
> > sharpened. Also look at the locking mechanism that they use to retain the
> > blades/tools in a working position. 2 other good brands are Gerber ( I used
> > one of these for several years) and SOG. My partner swore by his SOG, I
> > never used one so I can't comment on it personally.

Thanks, this is just the type of product information I needed. I like to
have choices and you've identified several quality vendors. Now I can go
shopping.

> > If I had to pick just 1 I would go with the large Leatherman. Good size for
> > most jobs, sturdy construction, and it has a straight blade as well as a
> > serated edge that is extremely sharp. Its a little bulky to keep in your
> > pocket, but it comes with a nice nylon belt case.

What I need is a small office unit ... something that can be used to
peel a case, a needle-nose, cut and strip wire and handle small nuts. I
don't want some pot-metal piece of crap that bends the first time it
hits a cross-threaded screw. Most of all, I want it to hold an edge and
not dull instantly.

Bob Wilson

M May F

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Dec 6, 2001, 9:00:10 PM12/6/01
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Ron Hammon <ham...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> snip snip

>
> Aerospace enjoys costly, exotic stuff. The government is against
> sole-sourcing, by regulation. There is one material standard that, to
> avoid using the registered trade name of a unique steel, is titled by
> the specific chemical composition. (Which, by the way, is not enough
> information to reproduce it.) I forget the name, but I have had to use
> it a few times. It is 235 KSI stainless!! (For comparison, cheap,
> stainless screws are 35 KSI; hardened, black steel screws and files are
> 100 KSI.)

Are you thinking of Inconel, maybe?

> There is a type of polymer that I've used twice, for aerospace, of
> course. It's too early for me to think of the name (Vespel, maybe?),
> but it comes only in 8" diameter rods and it sold by the inch... $1000
> per inch! It is a little better in every measure compared to anything
> else. But, hey!

Yeah, Vespel. I needed some quick one time and got someone's leftovers for
"only" $400. I still quaked at the cost, but it did the job.

> I think that a valid career choice would be to develop a unique,
> somewhat superior material and extort NASA to use it.

Easier is to set up your own small business and get a grant from NASA to
develop that material, then extort.

M May F

Ron Hammon

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Dec 6, 2001, 11:15:36 PM12/6/01
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M May F wrote:
>
> Ron Hammon <ham...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> > snip snip
> >
> > Aerospace enjoys costly, exotic stuff. The government is against
> > sole-sourcing, by regulation. There is one material standard that, to
> > avoid using the registered trade name of a unique steel, is titled by
> > the specific chemical composition. (Which, by the way, is not enough
> > information to reproduce it.) I forget the name, but I have had to use
> > it a few times. It is 235 KSI stainless!! (For comparison, cheap,
> > stainless screws are 35 KSI; hardened, black steel screws and files are
> > 100 KSI.)
>
> Are you thinking of Inconel, maybe?

No. Inconel is relatively common (at least for high temps), by
comparison, and not nearly as outrageous in tensile strength. This one
is named as an alpha-numberic code, like AH231, or something similar.


>
> > There is a type of polymer that I've used twice, for aerospace, of
> > course. It's too early for me to think of the name (Vespel, maybe?),
> > but it comes only in 8" diameter rods and it sold by the inch... $1000
> > per inch! It is a little better in every measure compared to anything
> > else. But, hey!
>
> Yeah, Vespel. I needed some quick one time and got someone's leftovers for
> "only" $400. I still quaked at the cost, but it did the job.
>
> > I think that a valid career choice would be to develop a unique,
> > somewhat superior material and extort NASA to use it.
>
> Easier is to set up your own small business and get a grant from NASA to
> develop that material, then extort.
>
> M May F

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bob

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Dec 6, 2001, 11:32:03 PM12/6/01
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Reid's hardware if someone hasn't already said that. They are on N. Parkway
and sell a large collection of high quality (from what I know) knives.

bob.

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bob

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no, he said GOOD place. ;) haha.

bob.
not GREAT place.

bob

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God knows we haven't run that into the ground enough yet.

bob.

bob

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>
> <PaulP...@BigFoot.com> wrote in part:
>
> > I managed to lose my pocket knife recently and would like to replace it.
> > WHere's a good place to get a good one?
>
> Your Federal Knife and Nail Clipper Discount Superstore, located near
every
> airport. New shipments arriving daily! Daily, heck - HOURLY! We're
> 0V3R5T0CK3D!!!!!!
>
> Corry
> --

they carry boxcutters?

bob.

Greg Bacon

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Dec 7, 2001, 8:18:39 AM12/7/01
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In article <1f40aw4.15p7nvmqaalxsN%bwils...@hotmail.com>,
Bob Wilson (Holly's toy) <bwils...@hotmail.com> wrote:

: What I need is [...] something that can be used to [...] handle small
: nuts. [...]

That's easy! Just ask any Democrat's wife; she'll have plenty of
experience. :-)

Greg
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that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.
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