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Beth

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You know you're a Huntsvillian when...

1. You give directions by landmarks that are no longer there
("Take a left at the old Hills' shopping center...")

2. Someone says, "What, are you a rocket scientist?"
And you say, "Yes."

3. You keep a couple pillows, a radio, and a flashlight
in a closet for tornado warnings.

4. Your heat pump has two settings: "Refrigerate" for the summer,
and "Roast" for the winter.

5. You consider yourself a native even tho' you moved here
10-15-20 years ago (hey, there aren't many true natives!).

6. You understand why there's ice hockey in Huntsville.

7. You've ever told someone, "Not the *prison* Huntsville,
the one with the rockets!"

8. You plan your social calendar around Panoply, Big Spring Jam,
and Bassmasters.

9. You go to the Space & Rocket Center every time you have
out of town guests.

10. You can name 6 good BBQ restaurants in the area and 3 sushi places.

11. You're a former employee of Intergraph (or SCI).

12. You think Monte Sano is a MOUNTAIN. ;)

13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
on Governor's Drive.

14. You buy your beer & cigarettes at the BP station in 5 Points.

15. You can design a feedback circuit, clean a fish, and know
where the best deer hunting is.

16. The best deer hunting is in your back yard.

17. You lust after an ISDN line, have a 7-foot satellite dish,
have installed a LAN in your house, and the neighbors still
think you drive a train for a living.

18. You went to the 5am showing of the new Star Wars flick.

19. It was the third time you saw it.

20. You read hsv.general and understand most of it.

add your own...

21.


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Cindella2

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You've been in Huntsville a long time if...

21. You remember when Heart of Huntsville had World Bazaar, Sears, Rutenbergs,
ect.

22. You know why there's no airport near Airport Rd.

23. You remember the Bon-Air Restaurant (and miss it).

T.J. Higgins

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Beth wrote:
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>You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>
>14. You buy your beer & cigarettes at the BP station in 5 Points.

Don't forget the Fire Cheif matches and the gasoline...

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

Andy and/or Angela Thompson

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Jun 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/10/99
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You know where THE Mall is.

You remember when Madison Square Theater was THE place to be.

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<><
Andy Thompson

got Jesus?

[Change .moc to .com to reply by e-mail.]

Carol

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Cindella2 wrote in message <19990609195822...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...

Oh God, the rolls. Manna from Heaven.

Carol

Chris Adams

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Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
>I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
>the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
>store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)

Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire
Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.
--
Chris Adams <cad...@ro.com> - System Administrator
Renaissance Internet Services - IBS Interactive, Inc.
Home: http://ro.com/~cadams - Public key: http://ro.com/~cadams/pubkey.txt
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

Paul F. Pearson

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Cindella2 <cind...@aol.com> wrote:
>You've been in Huntsville a long time if...

>22. You know why there's no airport near Airport Rd.

This reminds me. I read in _Old Huntsville Magazine_ once about some cars
on Whitesburg shining their headlights onto the runway at the Old Airport.
I haven't figured that out. I assume it was before the Parkway. Did the
Airport extend as far as Whiteburg is now? Has Whitesburg been rerouted
since then?

To give a timeframe, the pilot stayed at the Russel-Erskin hotel


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Paul F. Pearson (ppea...@hiwaay.net) http://home.hiwaay.net/~ppearson/
"Lord heal our land. Father heal our land. Hear our cry and turn our nation
back to You" - Heal Our Land, _Magnify The Lord_ (Integrity Music)

Paul F. Pearson

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Cindella2 <cind...@aol.com> wrote:
>You've been in Huntsville a long time if...

>21. You remember when Heart of Huntsville had World Bazaar, Sears, Rutenbergs,
>ect.

>22. You know why there's no airport near Airport Rd.

>23. You remember the Bon-Air Restaurant (and miss it).

24. YOu know what the Russel-Erskin is

Paul F. Pearson

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Andy and/or Angela Thompson <andyan...@mindspring.moc> wrote:
>You know where THE Mall is.

>You remember when Madison Square Theater was THE place to be.

I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was


the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)

Anella Brolliar

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Beth <sorn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>
> 1. You give directions by landmarks that are no longer there
> ("Take a left at the old Hills' shopping center...")

I still think of it as the old Murphy's Mart shopping center.

============================================================================
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Phase IV Systems, Inc.
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256-535-2110 (fax)
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Anella Brolliar

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Chris Adams <cad...@ro.com> wrote in message news:7joh35$ni3$1...@sh1.ro.com...


> Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:

> >I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
> >the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the
jewelry
> >store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
>

> Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire
> Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.

"Return of the Jedi". It wasn't the line to get tickets either just the
line to get into the theater.

> --
> Chris Adams <cad...@ro.com> - System Administrator
> Renaissance Internet Services - IBS Interactive, Inc.
> Home: http://ro.com/~cadams - Public key: http://ro.com/~cadams/pubkey.txt
> I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

T.J. Higgins

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Chris Adams wrote:
>
>Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
>>I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
>>the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
>>store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
>
>Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire
>Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.

"Jaws" was there, too. Talk about a madhouse...

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

frank williams

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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:26:39 -0500, "Anella Brolliar"
<Ane...@PhaseIV.com> wrote:

>
>
>Chris Adams <cad...@ro.com> wrote in message news:7joh35$ni3$1...@sh1.ro.com...

>> Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
>> >I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
>> >the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the
>jewelry
>> >store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
>>

My brothers and I saw "Planet of the Apes" at the Alabama Twin.

>> Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire
>> Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.
>

>"Return of the Jedi". It wasn't the line to get tickets either just the
>line to get into the theater.
>

Hey, I stood in that line, at that theater, to see "Return of the
Jedi" with a date named "Amy". We went on to marrage, kids
and standing in line with them to see the Star Wars re-releases
last year and then to see "Phantom Menace."

Frank

frank williams

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>> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>>
>> 1. You give directions by landmarks that are no longer there
>> ("Take a left at the old Hills' shopping center...")
>

I still use the line "It's on the parkway by GEX".

Frank


Mike Travis

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I heard it told that this took place in the field off of whitesburg. South
of Drake ave. and on the east side of whitesburg. This area is undeveloped.
I also heard that it was brodcast on am 1230 radio that they needed cars to
help this pilot land.

This info came from a man who must be in his 80s by now.

Mike..

Anyone remember when going to HSV from Athens on hwy 72, that Huntsville
started about where UAH is today? UAH on one side and the Datsun dealer on
the other.

Soon Athens to HSV will be all commercial.

Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> wrote in message
news:MUysPb0s#GA....@pet.hiwaay.net...


>Cindella2 <cind...@aol.com> wrote:
>>You've been in Huntsville a long time if...
>

>>22. You know why there's no airport near Airport Rd.
>

>This reminds me. I read in _Old Huntsville Magazine_ once about some cars
>on Whitesburg shining their headlights onto the runway at the Old Airport.
>I haven't figured that out. I assume it was before the Parkway. Did the
>Airport extend as far as Whiteburg is now? Has Whitesburg been rerouted
>since then?
>
>To give a timeframe, the pilot stayed at the Russel-Erskin hotel
>
>

Paul F. Pearson

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Chris Adams <cad...@ro.com> wrote:
>Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
>>I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
>>the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
>>store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)

>Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire


>Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.

That's exactly my only memory of the theater. I think it was "Star Wars"
for me.

Thanks.

Paul F. Pearson

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Anella Brolliar <Ane...@PhaseIV.com> wrote:
>Beth <sorn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7jmo5r$8c$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>>
>> 1. You give directions by landmarks that are no longer there
>> ("Take a left at the old Hills' shopping center...")

>I still think of it as the old Murphy's Mart shopping center.

I still call it the old Woolco shopping center. Used to be the only place
to get an Icee (that I remember).

gmhol...@mindspring.com

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In article <7jmo5r$8c$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Beth <sorn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...

This same thread was going on in here a couple of summers ago...here's a
compilation of the responses (this was a Web page, so please excuse the
formatting!):

You consider an on-ramp to Memorial Parkway a nice place to park until
the
traffic thins out.

You complain about why they don't put in traffic lights at the end of
the ramps.

You drop an ice cube tray on the kitchen floor, and your kids want to
take
two snow days off from school.

You're thinking of just buying a pollen-colored car.

You use your gun scope to check out the new comet - and/or use birdshot
to balance your telescope.

You don't care HOW they do it up North - or anywhere south of about
Morgan City.

Your garage holds two John Deere tractors and a fledgling electronics
company.

You don't think Lily Flagg is an Easter banner.

Your kid's first field trip is to Cook's Pest Control.

You know there's no airport on Airport Road.

Your favorite comeback is,"As a matter of fact, I AM a rocket
scientist."

The bugs in your computer are boll weevils.

You're unable to make out a grocery list unless it begins with (1)
Mission,
(2) Goals, and (3) Accomplishments.

You learned to count backwards and thought &quot;lift off&quot; was the
last number.

Someone says they are going to "thee" mall and you know where thou art
going.

Someone asks you a question and you reply "Dooo Whaattt?"

Your dinner parties have caviar and baloney on the same table.

You write in "Dilbert" on the '96 presidential ballot.

You have ever bought milk and bread because "Gary said it would be like
this."

You think to "merge" is only a program on your computer.

You think that a traffic light changing to red means that five more cars
can go through the intersection before one has to stop.

You try to think up silly jokes about the city just to save the cost of
a
ticket to see Jeff Foxworthy.

You know who H. D. Bagley is and when weather was just weather. (Long
time WHNT weatherman.)

You remember the following folks: Missy Ming, Dick Van Valkenburg,
Grady Reeves, Herb Winches (OK, most sports fans still know who he is),
Ken Rainey, Bob Baron, Rick Davis, Bob Labbe, Dave Stanley, Cindy
Sexton, Kristen Williams, Michelle Muro, Kris Hall, Bill Markham, Joe
Vallely,
Pappy Dunnavant, Tom Grant, Karen Foster, Mark Ross.

You remember when Channel 48 built their "tall tower".

You remember when Channel 48 moved downtown (and why).

You know who "Cash" was.

You watched "Lost in Space", "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" and
"Land of the Giants" followed by the Three Stooges on Sunday
mornings.

You remember April 3, 1974. (Huntsville was hit by a couple of dozen
tornados April 3 and 4 or 1974.)

You remember WAAY radio, and WKQD.

You remember when "Decatur's Rhythm Monster" went Country (OK, so it's
not Huntsville, but it's close).

You know who Dick Van Valkenberg was and you wondered just
how he managed to get to every accident before the police.

You remember when WAAY-TV was an NBC affiliate.

You remember Mr. Campbell's store on Monte Sano about where ch19's
satellite dishes are.

You remember when it was named "Cook's Pest Patrol", and you
can sing the theme song.

You remember the glideslope lights that used to run through the
parking lot of the Westbury Mall.

You have at some point in your life had a chocolate malt at
Walgreen's or Woolworth's.

You remember when they had to station a cop at the Parkway and
University in the morning, to make the left-turning traffic actually
stop when the light turned red.

You can sing the Jack's Hamburgers theme. (Bonus points if you
can also play the jazz guitar part.)

You own a set of James Record's books.

You know which of the five-way intersections in town is the real
"Five Points".

You or your parents ever had to replace windows on account of
a rocket test.

You can remember when the Twickingham district was a slum.

You have ever attended any event at the Southeastern Sports Arena.

You don't look at people funny when you see them putting lit
candles in bags.

You still cuss Eisenhower like so: "We could've have beaten them
Russkies if he had let Von Braun loose in 1956!"

You were on the Johnny Evans show when you were a kid and you know who
Tex is.

You used to circle Shoney's drive in on University.

You used to sneak into the Cotton Club when you were underage.

You know who Tojo Yamamoto is.

You remember when Huntsville had a minor league football team.

You remember when Huntsville High, Lee and Butler were the only high
schools.

You know what GEX was.

Your first date was at a Terry's Pizza.

You partied at the "Plush Horse".

You rollerskated on Saturday afternoons to the tune
"The Night Chicago Died", played every Saturday at the
Carousel Skate Rink.

You remember Burger Chef (and Jeff) on Bob Wallace.

You remember Mugs Up root beer, parking on the mountain, Jerry's
drive-in, crusin' between Shoneys
(on N. Parkway and Jerry's), dances at Dunnavants Mall, soc hops at Lee
High School, when Andrew
Jackson Way was 5th street, sneaking in the trunk at Woody's drive-in,
the Lyric Theater, the
Teen Dance Club at 5 Points, and a birthday party at Dipper Dan.

You remember the tornados that were spun off of
hurricane Beulah in the mid 60's and tore up
South Parkway.

You remember the deep snow fall of '64.

You remember that trailer park at the Parkway and
Sparkman - Pinhook creek used to flood it bad.

You remember back when Greyhound buses
dropped you off in Decatur (the big city).

You remember the Food World in Madison being built.

You remember the intersection of Governors and Bob Wallace.

You remember when all HPD cars were blue with xenon flashers(Still older
- you remember when all
HPD cars were black-and white).

You remember when there weren't any Big Spring Jams.

You remember US 241 and AL Highway 38.

You remember Holmes Avenue being US 72 West.

You remember 5th Street North being US 72 East.

You remember when Pulaski Pike was the way to
go to Ardmore and Pulaski.

You remember when Airport Road went from the main
highway to the airport instead of from the main
road away from where the airport used to be.

You remember when Triana Blvd. could be used to go to Triana.

You remember when Old Madison Pike started at Triana Blvd.

You remember when AL Highway 20 was routed through
downtown Madison (Old Madison Pike, Hughes Road, Mill Road,
Church Street, Main Street, Sullivan Street, Short Pike,
County Line Road, Old Hwy. 20, Mooresville Road, then over
to US 31 south into Decatur.

You still refer to South Huntsville Square as
"Haysland/Hamilton".

You know anybody mentioned in a Billy Joe Cooley column.

You had an account at Third National, People's, or the
Bank of Huntsville.

You hear "Super X" and do NOT think of Marvel Comics.

You resent the definition of "dullsville" in some
dictionaries.

You ever shopped at Teddy Bear or U-Totem.

You think of Birmingham as "South Alabama".

You paid to see a movie at the Martin Theater.

You paid to see a movie at the Whitesburg Drive-In.

You remember the Madison Twin before it was a Twin.

You ever wondered why tornados seemed to have a thing
for the G.C. Murphy's store at Parkway City.

You remember wondering why First Alabama built a branch
in the "middle of nowhere" on the highway to the Jetport.

You still think "Jetport" is a better name than
"Huntsville International Airport".

You understand the need for Useless Overpass.

You outline the US manned space program, in detail, to
perfect strangers for no good reason.

You know who Lily Flagg was.

You actually miss all those cotton fields.

You ever saw a city high school football game at
Goldsmith Schiffman field.

You can hold a three-hour conversation consisting entirely of acronyms.

You paid for lunch after church on Sunday at Britling's Cafeteria.

You remember "Chuck Higgins' Superior AMC/Jeep, Governor's Drive between
the hospitals, the house of sincere service."

You remember when the Dodge dealer was at the above location before
moving
to Wheeler Ave.

You know it was a bad day if, while driving to the Jetport, you had to
stop at the
red light at Hwy 20 & Wall-Triana (usually to let a tractor go across).

You know what Miracle City is.

You ever swam at the swimming pool in Big Spring Park.

You know what Sally Carter's grave is.

You remember when the Huntsville Times had to put out an issue with blue
ink, and why.

You remember the Trans-Lux theaters.

You remember when Point Mallard was the world's largest wave pool.

You remember when you actually had to drive on Golf Road to get to the
golf
course.

You know who Benny Carle is, and who his major sponsor was. "This is
BC,
saying I'll B-C-ing you."

You ever saw Elvis Presley in concert at the VBCC.

You remember when they built Carousel skate center. Before that is was
Rainbow or no go.

You remember when you actually had to remember what store you parked in
front of at The Mall, because the parking lot was so crowded.

You saw Adolf Hitler's Mercedes at The Mall.

You ever swam or played golf at the Ardmore Country Club.

You actually know where Dunnavant's Mall and Fort Book are.

You've ever eaten at the Dwarf.

You've lost more than one trailer to a tornado.

You've been on the local news and said, "Hit sounded jest lahk a freight
train."

You've ever been arrested for an overdue library book.

You know every post from Glen Swaim is about guns or taxes(hsv.general
inside joke).

You remember dirt roads on Monte Sano.

You can remember when the base of trees in Big Springs Park
were painted white.

Your parents let you stay up late on Saturday night to watch
Shock Theatre.

You remember when Intergraph was profitable.

You were reading Usenet before there was a hsv.general.

You remember when the County Courthouse had a dome on it.

You remember when there was an airport at the west end of Airport Rd.
The
best view of planes (DC3s) landing was from up by the golf pro shop.

You remember when the county fair was held at what is now the northeast
corner of the Parkway and the University Drive extension east.

You remember when the county fair was held adjacent to the old coliseum,
parking was where Madison Square Mall sits today.

You remember when the Showcase was Dale's Steakhouse.

You remember when the Chevrolet, Ford, Pontiac, and Buick dealerships
were
all located at the corner of Washington and Wheeler. Don't forget Tait's
Huntsville Dodge on Wheeler.

You remember Fat Harry's.

You remember Bob Tabb Cadillac at the SW corner of Drake
and the Parkway. Also, if you hear the name "Bart Starr"
you think &"Car Dealer" before thinking
"Football".

You remember the SUPERSLIDE next to Miracle City which now is Service
Merchandise. (The Superslide was actually between Montgomery Ward's and
the
Madison Theater (which was at the end of the Parkway City strip
mall))

You remember Shakey's pizza after HS football games.

You remember going to the old ice skating rink and drinking
Boone's Farm.

You remeber eating dipdogs at Zesto's.

You remember Tri-hi-y.(YMCA program)

You remember doing the Hokey Pokey at the skating rink.

You remember dancing with all the enlisted men at the skating rink.

You remember concerts in the park on the mountain.

You remeber $0.25 tacos at Taco Bell.

You remember putting shampoo samples in the air conditioners at the high
schools.

You remember Van Valkenburg Construction.

You remember the original Mullins location.

You remember going to the fair where Red Lobster now sits.

You've been to Cormans Bakery.

You remember catching flights out of Muscle Shoals on the _big_ planes.

You waxed your car on the side of Bankhead Parkway.

You remember the Piedmont par three golf course and driving
range.

You remember when the Putt Putt on Leeman Ferry was an
official Putt Putt franchise.

You remember Buster's and Jimmy's Lounge.

You remember what the name of those car checks at UAH were
called.

You remember the Ritz Cafe on Washington Street, Herman Taylor
and the cigar ashes.

You remember the Krystal on the North Side Square.

You remember Tom Dar(t,k)'s Drugstore on the North Side Square.

You know where the US Naval Reserve Training Center was.

You remember Peacock's Apothecary.

You remember Rose Jewelry.

You remember the Carnegie Library.

You remember the Henderson Bank downtown.

You know the common name for the "Virginia McCormick Memorial
Association Building".

You remember WBHP.

You know what the "AHR" in WAHR means.(Arnold Hornbuckle(owner) Records)

You've ever ridden on the 40 & 8 as a kid. (Hint. The
Tennessee Vollly Voiture # 1012, La Societte Des 40, Hommes Et 8
Chevaux.).

You know what the "Brothers of the Bush" and the "Sisters of the
Swish" are.

There's also a short Huntsville trivia quiz from about the same time
that I've saved...let me know if anybody wants to see it!

Lynn.

Gerald Franks

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Thanks, Beth! Such a hoot.

Beth wrote:

> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>

> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
> on Governor's Drive.

Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and "Hell's
Bells." What are some others?

Chris Adams

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We always called it the "Celestial Eggbeaters".

Carol

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Gerald Franks wrote in message <37602E74...@iol-12.net>...

>Thanks, Beth! Such a hoot.
>
>Beth wrote:
>
>> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>>
>> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
>> on Governor's Drive.
>
>Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and "Hell's
>Bells." What are some others?


Church of the Weenie Jesus.

Carol

Jean Smith

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In article <19990609195822...@ng-cd1.aol.com>,
cind...@aol.com (Cindella2) wrote:

> You've been in Huntsville a long time if...
>

> 21. You remember when Heart of Huntsville had World Bazaar, Sears,
Rutenbergs,
> ect.
>

> 22. You know why there's no airport near Airport Rd.
>

> 23. You remember the Bon-Air Restaurant (and miss it).

24. You've got a date at Gattiland to watch the Sabres go for #2.


Citronella

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>24. YOu know what the Russel-Erskin is

Mmmmm.. you ate watercress salads there, with crackers and cold butter.


J.D.

Omni

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Chris Adams wrote:

> Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
> >I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What
> was
> >the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the
> jewelry
> >store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
>

_____________
Don't forget the convenience store...Teddy Bear! They used to have Pac
Man.

Kara Tyson


Rory O'Moore

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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gmhol...@mindspring.com wrote:

#You remember the glideslope lights that used to run through the
#parking lot of the Westbury Mall.

Nope. They ran across the parkway just north of what is now Parkway
City mall. One of the towers for the strobes was in the McDonalds parking
lot [or only a few feet south of there][and it was a McDonalds even then].

Rory


Paul F. Pearson

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Carol <car...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

I've heard it calle "Fort God"

Citronella

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>>>> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
>>>> on Governor's Drive.
>>>
>>>Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and
"Hell's
>>>Bells." What are some others?
>
>>Church of the Weenie Jesus.
>

>I've heard it called "Fort God"

I thought "Fort God" was Whitesburg Baptist. I heard someone call the bell
tower at the eggbeater church "the rocket to heaven." I like Hell's Bells
better!
Once my nephew was singing in a city school choral performance inside the
Baptist church on Governor's. When my young niece saw the pipe organ inside
the church, she announced loudly, "Hey! You can see the eggbeaters on the
inside, too!"

J.D.


Bo Williams

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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"Paul F. Pearson" wrote:

> I've heard it calle "Fort God"

Really? I always heard "Fort God" applied to that pretty (Methodist?)
church on the south side of Airport just west of Whitesburg.
--
Bo Williams - wrwi...@mindspring.com
"Never drive, use power tools, or play chess mad."

T.J. Higgins

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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>>>>> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
>>>>> on Governor's Drive.
>>>>
>>>>Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and
>"Hell's
>>>>Bells." What are some others?
>>
>>>Church of the Weenie Jesus.
>>
>>I've heard it called "Fort God"

Just heard a new one this morning: First Strike Baptist Church.

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

Dave Taylor

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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Beth wrote:
>
> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...

> add your own...
>
21. The throttle in your car is a one-bit digital controller.

Brian Day

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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T.J. Higgins <ernest.p...@vernal.equinox.edu> writes:
:>>>>> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
:>>>>> on Governor's Drive.

: Just heard a new one this morning: First Strike Baptist Church.

"Our Lady of the Space Shuttle Columbia"


--
Brian Day, NASA/MSFC
Huntspatch, AL

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

Patti2cat

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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The "Mooning Baptist Church"

Christopher Perret

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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Gerald Franks <ge...@iol-12.net> wrote:

>Thanks, Beth! Such a hoot.
>

>Beth wrote:
>
>> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
>>

>> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
>> on Governor's Drive.
>

>Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and "Hell's
>Bells." What are some others?
>

I've got to de-lurk for this one...

I've called it the "Church of the Holy Rocket" since I moved here 8
years ago.

Christopher Perret
cpe...@hiwaay.net

Robert J. Wilson

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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<gmhol...@mindspring.com> wrote:


[snip-snip wonderful stuff]

> There's also a short Huntsville trivia quiz from about the same time
> that I've saved...let me know if anybody wants to see it!
>
> Lynn.

Lynn,

I think you've got the start of a great Web page. If we could get with
the guy who puts out the Historical newsletter to collaborate, it could
be a real hoot.

Bob Wilson
--
No e-mail solicitations (i.e., nospam, no UCE, no UBE).

Greg Bacon

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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In article <#bXu3kAt#GA....@pet.hiwaay.net>,
"Paul F. Pearson" <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> writes:
: I've heard it calle "Fort God"

Fort God and Six Flags Over Jesus are two popular nicknames for the
*MAMMOTH* Dauphin Way Baptist in Mobile (right off I-65). :-) I
wonder how common these sorts of nicknames for big churches are.

Greg
--
I have not finished with a woman until I have had her all three ways.
-- John F. Kennedy.

Beth

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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In article <37625e89...@newstoo.hiwaay.net>,

cpe...@hiwaay.net (Christopher Perret) wrote:
> Gerald Franks <ge...@iol-12.net> wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Beth! Such a hoot.
> >
> >Beth wrote:
> >
> >> You know you're a Huntsvillian when...
> >>
> >> 13. You have at least 5 nicknames for the large Baptist church
> >> on Governor's Drive.
> >
> >Five? The only two I can think of are "Jesus on the Eggbeater" and
> >"Hell's Bells." What are some others?
> >
>
> I've got to de-lurk for this one...

Happy Delurk, Christopher! :)

> I've called it the "Church of the Holy Rocket" since I moved here 8
> years ago.

LOL, I've heard that one! I've also heard it called the
"Psychedelic Jesus."

Beth (who would *never* use a nickname for a church. Ever. ;)

Travis Hardison

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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In article <7k38fh$eju$2...@info2.uah.edu>, Greg Bacon <gba...@cs.uah.edu> wrote:

> Greg
> --
> I have not finished with a woman until I have had her all three ways.
> -- John F. Kennedy.

Y'reckon this was why he was still married to Jackie in Dallas? (And
what is the source of this wonderful quote, Greg?)

T

Lee Seitz

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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In article <7jop9s$6po$1...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>,

Mike Travis <m...@hiwaay.netSPAMMENOT> wrote:
>Anyone remember when going to HSV from Athens on hwy 72, that Huntsville
>started about where UAH is today? UAH on one side and the Datsun dealer on
>the other.
>
> Soon Athens to HSV will be all commercial.

26(?). You remember when there was nothing but cotton fields on Hwy.
20 (Alt. 72) between Hwy. 31 in Decatur and Gate 9 of Redstone
Arsenal.

27. You remember when the only thing in Huntsville named "Von Braun"
was a person.

(No, I don't go back that far!)

--
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Greg Bacon

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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In article <thardisonNOSPAM-...@user-38lc689.dialup.mindspring.com>,
thardis...@mindspring.com (Travis Hardison) writes:
: In article <7k38fh$eju$2...@info2.uah.edu>,
: Greg Bacon <gba...@cs.uah.edu> wrote:
: > --
: > I have not finished with a woman until I have had her all three ways.
: > -- John F. Kennedy.
:
: Y'reckon this was why he was still married to Jackie in Dallas?

Maybe ol' JFK wasn't as persuasive as we all thought. :-)

: (And what is the source of this wonderful quote, Greg?)

<URL:http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=443714133&fmt=text>. Google
appears to be down, so I can't give you any other sources. :-(

Greg
--
Mr. Garrison: You think I can't get along without Mr.Hat don't you? You think
I can't live without him. Well I can. He's just a puppet. I
don't need him. See? Watch. [ time passes ... ]
GOD DAMN IT, WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU PUT MR.HAT?!?

Jesus Freak

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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Yeah I remember that Datsun Dealer was
Continental Cars , that is where I was trained
to do Mercedes Benz cars. and you know that Home
Depot out there at Rideout Rd?? I remember helping my
Grandmother change a flat on her 56 Chevy there by
that cemetary and remembering " Man is it dark
way out here in the country and I hope there a'int no
spooks here " I was 8-10 which puts this 1964ish.
We used to drag race on the new Sparkman Dr out by
Woolco/Hills before any apartments were built.
Also anybody remember that Univercity Dr did not cross
the Parkway?? Anybody remember what was there??
What about the stores downtown?? Kresse ,Dart,
or that the Woolworths at the corner dowtown had
wood floors?? " Walking Charlie" ?? "Millers" stores??

And my favorite memory !! The RC shows at the
Martin Theater, come on now a line all the way around the block,
and magnets on strings to pull RC bottle caps out of
the drink machines. Tell me I am not
the only one that remembers this, and the live bands before the shows
"HOW COOL" !! Live music my first encounter with such. Now I am involved
with live music at Church. Anybody remember the "Glass Bottom Boat"
that was given away at the Lyric Theater when the movie came out??
How about all the drive in theaters all over town?? Can you name them??
How about Harolds Market and "Leo Matthews" making sandwiches
and knowing everybodys name?? Was anybody at the Ford dealer
when the first Mustang came in "I was". The old Boys Club??
Roy Jacks store?? The liqour store at Oakwood and the Parkway,
I was working with my dad at that Amoco on that same corner
from 1965 till mid to late 1970s, this "State Store" had two
enterances "Whites" and "Black" the whites side could and did
line up inside 75-100 people the blacks side 5-10.
How about when KFC opened the first one?? Where??
The opening "special"??
This is not a "contest " Just another oldtimer wanting to stir
you're memorys<><Charlie

Suzie Nolen

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Jul 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/7/99
to T.J. Higgins
Does anybody else remember the RC Cola Bottle Cap shows at the downtown
theatre? My uncle John used to open up the drink machine at his fire station
so that my sister and I could each have the 6 bottle caps required to go to a
Saturday matinee each week.

"T.J. Higgins" wrote:

> Chris Adams wrote:
> >
> >Once upon a time, Paul F. Pearson <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> said:
> >>I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
> >>the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
> >>store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
> >

> >Westbury. I remember when the line for "Star Wars" (or was it "Empire
> >Strikes Back"?) wrapped around the building there.
>

> "Jaws" was there, too. Talk about a madhouse...
>
> --
> TJH
>
> tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net


Suzie Nolen

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Jul 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/7/99
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I'm pretty sure that was the Westbury.

"Paul F. Pearson" wrote:

> Andy and/or Angela Thompson <andyan...@mindspring.moc> wrote:
> >You know where THE Mall is.
>
> >You remember when Madison Square Theater was THE place to be.


>
> I remember when the _Alabama Twin_ was THE theater in H'ville. What was
> the name of the theater on Airport in front of what used to be the jewelry
> store (where TJ Macs, et.al is now)
>

Carol

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Jul 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/7/99
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Suzie Nolen wrote in message <37832DD1...@adtran.com>...

>Does anybody else remember the RC Cola Bottle Cap shows at the downtown
>theatre? My uncle John used to open up the drink machine at his fire
station
>so that my sister and I could each have the 6 bottle caps required to
go to a
>Saturday matinee each week.
>
I remember those. I remember seeing "A Hard Days Night" at the Lyric
and crying for
3 days because I knew I'd never find a man like Paul. It turns out I
had remarkable insight
at that age. Paul remained true to his wife, kept his hair and is a
billionaire.

Carol

Keith B.

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Remember the Snuff Dippers Ball?


Jesus Freak

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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Down town upstairs <><Charlie

zam...@webtv.net

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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The Mall Ballroom

-Zamzam

-Wa Salaam- *)7
**************************
Your questions indicate the depth of your belief. Look at the depth of
your questions.


JJ Farmer

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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You know you're a
Huntsvillian when..

21. You remember Utotums!
22. You rember Get it Kwick.
23. you ever went to the Carousel Skate center

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Carol

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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JJ Farmer wrote in message <9324193...@www.remarq.com>...

>You know you're a
>Huntsvillian when..
>
>21. You remember Utotums!


I'm a Huntsvillian but I don't remember Utoturns. What are they?

Carol

J. Porter Clark

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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"Carol" <car...@hiwaay.net> writes:

A convenience store that seems to have vanished or perhaps replaced by
Circle K and 7-11. It was actually U-Tote-M or something, implying
that you didn't get help carrying the goods to the car. They had a big
vertical sign in front that was supposed to look somewhat like a totem
pole. I didn't know they were specific to Huntsville, though.


John Brewer

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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In article <9324193...@www.remarq.com>, JJ Farmer <j...@worldzine.com> wrote:
>You know you're a
>Huntsvillian when..
>
>21. You remember Utotums!
>22. You rember Get it Kwick.
>23. you ever went to the Carousel Skate center

24. You've ever bought JJ Farmer a beer.
25. You've ever corrected his spelling..... (see 22 above) =-)

GS

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26. You've eaten at the Krystal on North Side Square
27. You remember when Sears was on North Side Square
28. You have driven on Trailer Island
29. You've eaten a 10 cent Mullins hamburger
30. You've eaten at Mullins before they moved

Mike8174

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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>29. You've eaten a 10 cent Mullins hamburger
>30. You've eaten at Mullins before they moved
>

31. You've eaten at Steadman's
32. Or Fox's (it was on Fifth Ave. which is now Governor's Dr.)
33. Or Jerry's
mike

Kris Kirby

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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GS wrote:
>
> In article <p1mbw5s0#GA....@newstoo.hiwaay.net>, jbr...@hiwaay.net (John Brewer) wrote:
> >In article <9324193...@www.remarq.com>, JJ Farmer <j...@worldzine.com>
> > wrote:
> >>You know you're a
> >>Huntsvillian when..
> >>
> >>21. You remember Utotums!
> >>22. You rember Get it Kwick.
> >>23. you ever went to the Carousel Skate center
> >
> >24. You've ever bought JJ Farmer a beer.
> >25. You've ever corrected his spelling..... (see 22 above) =-)
>
> 26. You've eaten at the Krystal on North Side Square
> 27. You remember when Sears was on North Side Square

> 28. You have driven on Trailer Island

You can still do this. There is one business in that area, and it's a
winding path to get back there.

> 29. You've eaten a 10 cent Mullins hamburger
> 30. You've eaten at Mullins before they moved

--
Kris Kirby
<kr...@airnet.net>
-------------------------------------------
TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said.

Robert J. Wilson

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Mike8174 <mike...@aol.comnospam> wrote:

> 31. You've eaten at Steadman's
> 32. Or Fox's (it was on Fifth Ave. which is now Governor's Dr.)
> 33. Or Jerry's

Given the short half-life for resturants in Huntsville, I'd compress all
of the "You've eaten ..." to:

xx. You eat lunch only at resturant openings . . . monthly.

GS

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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In article <199907211130574013714@[131.182.232.233]>, bwi...@advicom.com (Robert J. Wilson) wrote:
>Mike8174 <mike...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>
>> 31. You've eaten at Steadman's
>> 32. Or Fox's (it was on Fifth Ave. which is now Governor's Dr.)
>> 33. Or Jerry's
>
34. You remember when there was no Parkway.
35. You ever target practiced where the Mall is now (or was).

susan

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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GS wrote in message ...

36. you learned to love the chicken livers at Bon Air Restaurant
37. your mom made you take "Cotillion" classes in the Mall ballroom
38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street
39. you liked the echoes in the empty water tower on Green Mountain
40. you bought all your jeans and peace signs at the Army Navy surplus store
on South Side Square
41. you wondered why they called it "The Southern Sun" when it was on North
Side Square
42. You thought it a shame when "the Good Book Store" burned
43. you remember "Mike & Trudy's Ice Cream Parlor" on Jefferson which
featured black & white silent movies
44. you were forbidden to shop in "The Time Tube" across from Mike & Trudy's
because they burned incense
45. you bought a lava lamp at the Aztec gift shop in The Mall
and...drum roll please
46. you've seen every concert that YES performed at the VBCC

Jim Farmer

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
<smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street

When was Luna Tech on Church Street?

->39. you liked the echoes in the empty water tower on Green Mountain

....Franks place?

Jim


Carol

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Miz McClendon reminiced:

>36. you learned to love the chicken livers at Bon Air Restaurant
And the rolls!!!

>37. your mom made you take "Cotillion" classes in the Mall ballroom

I was spared that, thank God. But I was driven all the way from Madison
up to Monte
Sano 2 times a week to take piano lessons.

>40. you bought all your jeans and peace signs at the Army Navy surplus
store
>on South Side Square

Button front jeans

>42. You thought it a shame when "the Good Book Store" burned

I keep daydreaming about opening another

>44. you were forbidden to shop in "The Time Tube" across from Mike &
Trudy's
>because they burned incense

Hippies hang out in there. It's a bad place(tm)
I bought a lot of clothes from the Toadstool Boutique

>45. you bought a lava lamp at the Aztec gift shop in The Mall

Yes...I wish I still had one but you can buy the beads that hang in
doorways at
that place on Pratt Avenue I can't remember the name of

>and...drum roll please
>46. you've seen every concert that YES performed at the VBCC


And was fearful of the rumor that the roof of the arena would cave in
when it first opened.

J. Porter Clark

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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"Carol" <car...@hiwaay.net> writes:

>>45. you bought a lava lamp at the Aztec gift shop in The Mall
>Yes...I wish I still had one but you can buy the beads that hang in
>doorways at
>that place on Pratt Avenue I can't remember the name of

They've got lava lamps galore at Spencer's.

>>and...drum roll please
>>46. you've seen every concert that YES performed at the VBCC

>And was fearful of the rumor that the roof of the arena would cave in
>when it first opened.

I've never seen Yes at the VBCC, but I think I saw them every time they
came to the Municipal Auditorium in Nashville.

ekelso

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
to

J. Porter Clark wrote in message <3796...@news.vallnet.com>...

>"Carol" <car...@hiwaay.net> writes:
>
>I've never seen Yes at the VBCC, but I think I saw them every time they
>came to the Municipal Auditorium in Nashville.

Rumor has it that there are plans for a Yes/ELP tour in the near future. An
interesting reunion for ELP and an even more interesting combination of
bands on the same bill. A friend of mine is Nashville sent me an email about
this. Nice to see the old folks hanging in there. Wonder if they will tour
with a fog machine again. :-)

I expect to see Stones rolled out in wheel chairs one day to "rock it
again". Saw the Stones concert in B'ham a number of years ago and was amazed
to see Jagger prancing and shakin' on stage like he was twenty years old.
Impressive.

GS

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40. You drove to Tennessee to get Boones Farm wine.

41. You went to a drive ii movies.

J. Porter Clark

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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"ekelso" <eke...@hiwaay.net> writes:

>Rumor has it that there are plans for a Yes/ELP tour in the near future. An
>interesting reunion for ELP and an even more interesting combination of
>bands on the same bill. A friend of mine is Nashville sent me an email about
>this. Nice to see the old folks hanging in there. Wonder if they will tour
>with a fog machine again. :-)

I occasionally buy audio equipment for use in our audio lab, and the
catalogs for professional audio equipment usually include fog
machines. Seeing these offered at cut rate prices sort of makes the
effect seem a bit less magical.

If Yes and/or ELP shows up around here again, I'd jump at the chance to
see them.

T.J. Higgins

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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In article <h4nAdu40#GA....@newstoo.hiwaay.net>, GS <us...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>In article <199907211130574013714@[131.182.232.233]>,
>bwi...@advicom.com (Robert J. Wilson) wrote:
>>Mike8174 <mike...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>
>>> 31. You've eaten at Steadman's
>>> 32. Or Fox's (it was on Fifth Ave. which is now Governor's Dr.)
>>> 33. Or Jerry's
>>
>34. You remember when there was no Parkway.
>35. You ever target practiced where the Mall is now (or was).

You ever rode your dirt bike where Joe Davis Stadium is now.

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

GS

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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In article <caesurae-220...@user-38lc68v.dialup.mindspring.com>, caes...@mindspring.com (caesurae) wrote:
>thought i'd mention a few more huntsville classics. :)
>
>pasquali's pizza
>mater's pizza
>cambell's seafood market
>the tip top cafe
>boot's restaurant
>zesto's diner
>gibson's bbq
>a&w drive thru
>
Mugs Up Root Beer

Robert J. Wilson

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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caesurae <caes...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> gibson's bbq

Which one?

> a&w drive thru

Is it gone?

Bob Wilson

Mike8174

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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>>zesto's diner

Is it gone now? Man I remember those deep fried corndogs. Makes me shudder to
think what the cholesterol content was though.
mike

Paul F. Pearson

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
to

Still there. I ate there about 1-2 months ago. The corndogs are still
good. They now use a "healthy" oil. According to them, they still make
their corndogs the same way the did then.

T.J. Higgins

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
to
In article <caesurae-230...@user-38lc63e.dialup.mindspring.com>,
caesurae <caes...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>In article <199907222047561477466@[131.182.232.233]>, bwi...@advicom.com
>(Robert J. Wilson) wrote:

>
>> caesurae <caes...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > a&w drive thru
>>
>> Is it gone?
>
>not sure... used to be over on drake near braham springs park.

Still there.

--
TJH

tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net

Robert J. Wilson

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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T.J. Higgins <ernest.p...@vernal.equinox.edu> wrote:

> >> > a&w drive thru
> >>
> >> Is it gone?
> >
> >not sure... used to be over on drake near braham springs park.
>
> Still there.

Great! My cholesterol has been running a little low.

Mike8174

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>. and you
>know your a huntsvillian if you've been to the little amusement park that
>was once there and ridden the miniature train. :)

Remember the one that was at Big Spring park? The Sertoma Club ran it. Back
before the days of Gameboys and PC gaming that's what we did for fun.
mike

Paul F. Pearson

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You sure you're not thinking of Brahan Spring Park? I don't remember there
ever being one at Big Spring Park (near the VBC). Of course, I may be too
young!

GS

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In article <NRtxqo21#GA...@pet.hiwaay.net>, "Paul F. Pearson" <ppea...@HiWAAY.net> wrote:
>Mike8174 <mike...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>>. and you
>>>know your a huntsvillian if you've been to the little amusement park that
>>>was once there and ridden the miniature train. :)
>
>>Remember the one that was at Big Spring park? The Sertoma Club ran it. Back
>>before the days of Gameboys and PC gaming that's what we did for fun.
>>mike
>
>You sure you're not thinking of Brahan Spring Park? I don't remember there
>ever being one at Big Spring Park (near the VBC). Of course, I may be too
>young!
>
I think it was originally at Big Sprint Park and was moved to Braham
Springs Park later. Not sure when it was moved.

Glen

susan

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Jim Farmer wrote in message <37961483...@news.hiwaay.net>...

>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:
>
>->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street
>
>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?

In the mid-seventies in a big, blue metal building. I was 15 and couldn't
drive but some of my guy friends worked there a bit and used to take me over
there. So I THINK it was on or around Church Street.

>
>->39. you liked the echoes in the empty water tower on Green Mountain
>

>....Franks place?


I don't know who Frank is, but this was the water tower where "Eight Miles
High" was written, according to unconfirmed local lore. The water tower was
built a LONG time ago in the early sixties ( I guess they thought they could
develop Green mountain just like Monte Sano, but the road up was not as nice
as GovDr/MSBlvd), and when the subdivision went bankrupt it just stayed
empty until a small subdivision was built up there sometime in the 80's.
There was a big door cut into the tower's side so you could just walk in and
enjoy the acoustics.

More local lore, and perhaps true considering the persons involved were
telling everyone about it the next day...John Andersen went to the water
tower with Kevin & Denny Spencer after a VBCC concert, got stoned, played
his flute a nice long time, then went back to IHOP as this was the only
place open that time of the night/morning. Apparently, for some reason,
during the munch out fest at IHOP, John Andersen told Denny that her feet
were singing.....

>
>Jim
>

Gary Heston

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In article <rps161$0$37nspbi$7...@news.supernews.com>,
susan <smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

>Jim Farmer wrote in message <37961483...@news.hiwaay.net>...
>>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
>><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

>>->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street

>>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?

Before they moved to 822 DeMasters, off of Cook, which is where they
were when I worked there ('79-'81).

>In the mid-seventies in a big, blue metal building. I was 15 and couldn't
>drive but some of my guy friends worked there a bit and used to take me over
>there. So I THINK it was on or around Church Street.

The blue metal building was on DeMasters, next to a radiator shop, behind
Sperry. On Church, they were in an old house. I know they were on Church
around '74; rented some gear from them.

They're out in New Hope now; got themselves legislated out of town.


Gary

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Travis Hardison

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In article <caesurae-270...@user-37kbark.dialup.mindspring.com>,
caes...@mindspring.com (caesurae) wrote:

> In article <rps161$0$37nspbi$7...@news.supernews.com>, "susan"
> <smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim Farmer wrote in message <37961483...@news.hiwaay.net>...
> > >On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
> > ><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:
>

> > >->39. you liked the echoes in the empty water tower on Green Mountain
>

> > I don't know who Frank is, but this was the water tower where "Eight Miles
> > High" was written, according to unconfirmed local lore.
>

> wow, i hadn't heard that one! i've climbed to the top of this tower a few
> times and it is truly a breathtaking view. of course, i don't recomend
> doing this at nite on lsd with a storm brewing across the river!!! :)

Oh, neither would I reccomend it, but isn't it amazing how many times
those were the conditions and you lived through it and the memories are
still much more vivid than if you'd waited until you were in a sober,
Republican state of mind and went during the daytime during perfect
weather and carried a first aid kit?


>
> > The water tower was
> > built a LONG time ago in the early sixties ( I guess they thought they could
> > develop Green mountain just like Monte Sano, but the road up was not as nice
> > as GovDr/MSBlvd), and when the subdivision went bankrupt it just stayed
> > empty until a small subdivision was built up there sometime in the 80's.
> > There was a big door cut into the tower's side so you could just walk in and
> > enjoy the acoustics.
>

> i've been up to the water tower on many an occasion up until around 1990
> and i've never seen a door. there is a small portal that is just small
> enough to keep donut-eatin' cops out. a real lifesaver, if you get my
> drift!! :) i guess they finally got smart and cut themselves a
> cop-sized entrance.
>
>
> drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
>
> --
> caesurae <caes...@mindspring.com>

Travis Hardison

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In article <7nlf9d$bdq$1...@sh1.ro.com>, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:

> In article <rps161$0$37nspbi$7...@news.supernews.com>,
> susan <smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:
>
> >Jim Farmer wrote in message <37961483...@news.hiwaay.net>...
> >>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
> >><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:
>

> >>->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street
>
> >>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?
>
> Before they moved to 822 DeMasters, off of Cook, which is where they
> were when I worked there ('79-'81).

You must've been there when I used to drop by then. You remember a guy
there named Jubal who used to mix fireworks for Tom?

I think that was also around the time when I approached Delillie for a
formula for chocolate pudding that could be sat in for 36 hours without
going bad, a formula that the big food & pudding manufacturers (General
Foods, Carnation, Jello, etc.) had denied existed. Delillie thought about
it for a few minutes and introduced me to carboxymethylcellulose gum,
titanium dioxide (for opacity), and a brown colorant. Et voila:
competition grade pudding. :-)

Gary Heston

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In article <thardisonNOSPAM-...@user-37kbb6n.dialup.mindspring.com>,

Travis Hardison <thardis...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>In article <7nlf9d$bdq$1...@sh1.ro.com>, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:

>> In article <rps161$0$37nspbi$7...@news.supernews.com>,
>> susan <smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

>> >Jim Farmer wrote in message <37961483...@news.hiwaay.net>...
>> >>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
>> >><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

>> >>->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street

>> >>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?

>> Before they moved to 822 DeMasters, off of Cook, which is where they
>> were when I worked there ('79-'81).

I must correct this--it was Fountain Circle, not Church Street. Been a
while...

> You must've been there when I used to drop by then. You remember a guy
>there named Jubal who used to mix fireworks for Tom?

Yes. He hired in while I was there.

> I think that was also around the time when I approached Delillie for a
>formula for chocolate pudding that could be sat in for 36 hours without
>going bad, a formula that the big food & pudding manufacturers (General
>Foods, Carnation, Jello, etc.) had denied existed. Delillie thought about
>it for a few minutes and introduced me to carboxymethylcellulose gum,
>titanium dioxide (for opacity), and a brown colorant. Et voila:
>competition grade pudding. :-)

DeWillie.

Yes, I remember that. As I recall, you used real pudding one year and
had problems with bacterial infections; didn't a few people have to
go to the hospital? Weren't the pudding-sitting competetions held at
The Mall (which no longer exist)s?

You were asking the wrong question of the food companies; you should have
been asking for something that looked like chocolate pudding--that's what
Tom gave you.

Jim Farmer

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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:13:44 -0500, "susan"
<smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

->In the mid-seventies in a big, blue metal building. I was 15 and
couldn't
->drive but some of my guy friends worked there a bit and used to take
me over
->there. So I THINK it was on or around Church Street.

It was over on Demasters street after 1976. Before that it
was on Fountain Circle.

->>->39. you liked the echoes in the empty water tower on Green
Mountain

->>....Franks place?

->I don't know who Frank is, but this was the water tower where "Eight
Miles
->High" was written, according to unconfirmed local lore.

We all called it "Franks Place" as a subterfuge. "Hey, I'm going over
to Franks place".....

I don't think any coherent music was ever written there, but there
were several people who would take advantage of the acoustics
inside to enhance their jams.

Jim


Jim Farmer

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On 27 Jul 1999 18:27:41 -0500, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:


->The blue metal building was on DeMasters, next to a radiator shop,
behind
->Sperry.

Right next door to the Third Baptist Church, J. Otis King Pastor.

Jim

Jim Farmer

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On 27 Jul 1999 18:27:41 -0500, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:

->Before they moved to 822 DeMasters, off of Cook, which is where they
->were when I worked there ('79-'81).

You worked there right after I left. [`76 to `79]

->They're out in New Hope now; got themselves legislated out of town.

Yep. I could see that coming a long ways off. Glad I wasn't there for
the big fire.

Jim


Paul F. Pearson

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Jim Farmer <jfa...@tacsys.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:48:26 -0500, "susan"
><smccl...@cerrowirecable.com> wrote:

>->38. you used to hang at LunaTech when they were on Church Street

>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?


OK. I"ve seen teh thread about Luna Tech, but must ask. What is Luna Tech?

Jim Farmer

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:27:59 -0500, "Paul F. Pearson"
<ppea...@HiWAAY.net> wrote:

->OK. I"ve seen teh thread about Luna Tech, but must ask. What is Luna
->Tech?

Luna Tech was/is an "entertainment support" company. They started out
renting concert lighting, then added stage pyrotechnics. The lighting
side was bought out by one of the partners and renamed Theatrical
Lighting Systems, while the pyro group began operating under the
name of PyroPak.

The name came from one of the founding partners earlier work on the
space program as a designer of explosive bolts for rockets.

Jim


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>>When was Luna Tech on Church Street?

It wasn't, it was on a little side street off Church. I believe it's called
DeMaster's (?)

Janie


Gary Heston

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In article <37a11476...@news.hiwaay.net>,

Jim Farmer <jfa...@tacsys.com> wrote:
>On 27 Jul 1999 18:27:41 -0500, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:

>->Before they moved to 822 DeMasters, off of Cook, which is where they
>->were when I worked there ('79-'81).

>You worked there right after I left. [`76 to `79]

I started in February of '79, working the Johnny Cash Show.

>->They're out in New Hope now; got themselves legislated out of town.

>Yep. I could see that coming a long ways off. Glad I wasn't there for
>the big fire.

Well, when you weld in the same room with barrels of black powder, what
else do you expect? (Actually, trash cans of black-powder-based gerbs,
but pretty much the same thing.)

Travis Hardison

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In article <7nmt3n$468$1...@sh1.ro.com>, ghe...@ro.com (Gary Heston) wrote:

> > You must've been there when I used to drop by then. You remember a guy
> >there named Jubal who used to mix fireworks for Tom?
>
> Yes. He hired in while I was there.

Interesting guy. Did a flawless Bob Dylan impression. And unlike other
roomies in Hsv, *he* paid his share of the rent. (To the *grave* Farmer,
you fat tub of goo. :-))


>
> > I think that was also around the time when I approached Delillie for a
> >formula for chocolate pudding that could be sat in for 36 hours without
> >going bad, a formula that the big food & pudding manufacturers (General
> >Foods, Carnation, Jello, etc.) had denied existed. Delillie thought about
> >it for a few minutes and introduced me to carboxymethylcellulose gum,
> >titanium dioxide (for opacity), and a brown colorant. Et voila:
> >competition grade pudding. :-)
>
> DeWillie.

Been a long time, and I mostly called him Tom.


>
> Yes, I remember that. As I recall, you used real pudding one year and
> had problems with bacterial infections; didn't a few people have to
> go to the hospital? Weren't the pudding-sitting competetions held at
> The Mall (which no longer exist)s?

Actually, the previous folks had used real pudding, which was subject
to the laws of ordinary spoilage and putrefaction. The ad agency I worked
for was told that we could only get permission to do it if we could come
up with a decay-proof pudding, which was what I asked the food
manufacturers about, suggesting tips for any thickening agents they might
reccomend that weren't food-based. The point being: they *knew*, since CMC
gum (derived from pine trees) is listed as an ingredient in many items,
including shampoos, to give them that gelatinous thickness that people
think is active ingredients, or, in the case of milkshakes, some form or
dairy goodness.
And it was on behalf od the American Heart Association - not like we
were stealing a trade secret or were planning on going into the pudding
business ourselves. They were just being corporate, which doesn't require
being helpful.


>
> You were asking the wrong question of the food companies; you should have
> been asking for something that looked like chocolate pudding--that's what
> Tom gave you.

Believe me, I defined the parameters of my search broadly enough that
one of their front-desk secretaries could've answered my question, but I
kept getting responses from VPs telling me that I was asking for the
impossible, since there was no known substance that could make something
thicker. Wish I'd saved the letters.
>
>
>
> Gary

T

Jim Farmer

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On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:42:37 -0500, thardis...@mindspring.com
(Travis Hardison) wrote:

-> Interesting guy. Did a flawless Bob Dylan impression. And unlike
other
->roomies in Hsv, *he* paid his share of the rent.

You keep referring to me as your "roomie". The term implies that
we had some kind of formal agreement about space and rent.

I never moved any furniture there. The room I slept in was
certainly not mine to do with as I wished. In fact, I didn't
have a real bed to sleep on. In effect, I was crashing on the
floor of your living room. I could carry everything I brought
inside, out of there in one hand.

I washed dishes, vacuumed, swept, and did all I could to
help keep your disgusting messes under control.

I was glad to contribute whatever I could from my meager
unemployment checks. I recall giving you hundreds of bucks
over the months I stayed there.

I've put up several of my *friends* in the front room over the years,
but unlike you, I never charged anyone one cent for a place to crash
out. They were, after all, my *friends*, and I wouldn't want to profit
from their problems.

And unlike you, I never tried to dictate to my guests when and where
they could go. They were free to choose. I certainly didn't consider
their personal affairs to be any of my business, much less anything
for me to try to control. Fuck you for that.

For you to pretend to be a victim in this matter is laughable, and
shows just how desperate you've become in your twilight years for
any kind of attention and sympathy you can get. You were offered
terms, you declined, so I wash my hands of the matter.


Jim


richa...@eudoramail.com

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you remember when Edwards Furniture was NOT having a going out of
business sale.

Travis Hardison

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> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:42:37 -0500, thardis...@mindspring.com
> (Travis Hardison) wrote:
>
> -> Interesting guy. Did a flawless Bob Dylan impression. And unlike
> other
> ->roomies in Hsv, *he* paid his share of the rent.
>
> You keep referring to me as your "roomie". The term implies that
> we had some kind of formal agreement about space and rent.

There was not a written lease with my attorney and your attorney
discussing specific clauses that you might agree or disagree with. "Split
the rent and pay your share" had always been enough for me with previous
roommates who never reneged on the rent like you did.


>
> I never moved any furniture there. The room I slept in was
> certainly not mine to do with as I wished.

In fact it was.

> In fact, I didn't
> have a real bed to sleep on.

Or a pot to piss in, or the required upbringing to not walk out on an
obligation as basic as paying rent. Spare me from your "I was so poor I
couldn't pay attention", Farmer. What it came down to was me paying your
share, and I suspect I wasn't the last person you did that to. You also
walk out of restaurants without paying your bills?

> In effect, I was crashing on the
> floor of your living room.

In effect, you lump, you slept on the couch.

> I could carry everything I brought
> inside, out of there in one hand.

And this non-sequitur absolves you of paying rent because you lacked
worldly posessions? A novel defense. Shabby, but then so are you and your
ethical sense. :-)


>
> I washed dishes, vacuumed, swept, and did all I could to
> help keep your disgusting messes under control.

Whoooo, your memories have been seriously tweaked by all that bad acid
you did...maybe a batch of bad clams...or some violent head trauma. You
did all you could to help keep *my* messes under control? Not only are you
a fat puke, Farmer, you are a *lying* fat puke. You were an inert piece of
shit who played chess with Aleta on the coffeetable there in your room and
offered that shit-eating grin when the subject of rent was brought up.
Your "contributions" to the household are wholly imaginary.


>
> I was glad to contribute whatever I could from my meager
> unemployment checks. I recall giving you hundreds of bucks
> over the months I stayed there.

You are lying again. And you know it. I have no way of proving it, of
course, but there are two people who know that I'm telling the absolute
truth here, and you know that you left owing money. I hope this isn't the
most depraved thing you ever did to someone you pretended friendship with,
but my guess is that I represented some of your early depredations and
you've gotten more skillful at it in the years since.


>
> I've put up several of my *friends* in the front room over the years,
> but unlike you, I never charged anyone one cent for a place to crash
> out. They were, after all, my *friends*, and I wouldn't want to profit
> from their problems.

Same here, if that were the original discussion. You, on the other
hand, came in as a rent-sharing roommate who left owing money and changed
your story afterwards to allow you to feel moral about it. But the truth
is that you are a thief and a liar.


>
> And unlike you, I never tried to dictate to my guests when and where
> they could go.

Say what? First, you weren't a "guest". You came in as a roommate to
live in one of three rooms available in the place. I don't recall ever
dictating anything to you about where or when you could go anywhere.

> They were free to choose. I certainly didn't consider
> their personal affairs to be any of my business, much less anything
> for me to try to control. Fuck you for that.

Apparently there's a hidden issue here that you're holding me
responsible for after all these years. Unfortunately I don't have the
foggiest idea what you're referring to with this.


>
> For you to pretend to be a victim in this matter is laughable, and
> shows just how desperate you've become in your twilight years for
> any kind of attention and sympathy you can get. You were offered
> terms, you declined, so I wash my hands of the matter.

I was offered "terms"??? I asked you to pay me the rent you owed me and
you said something to the effect of, "Fuck you, I ain't paying you
nothin'."

I wrote you off as badly brought up trailer trash, Jim. I see that my
analysis was absolutely spang on the money. You've certainly said nothing
in your response to disabuse me of this notion.
>
>
> Jim

Hardison - so over this fat lying bastard

Jim Farmer

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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:14:22 -0500, thardis...@mindspring.com
(Travis Hardison) wrote:

->In article jfa...@tacsys.com wrote:

->> You keep referring to me as your "roomie". The term implies that
->> we had some kind of formal agreement about space and rent.

-> There was not a written lease with my attorney and your attorney
->discussing specific clauses that you might agree or disagree with.

That's sort of what I just said.

-> "Split the rent and pay your share" had always been enough for me
->with previous
->roommates who never reneged on the rent like you did.

You're still hung up on that roomie thing, I see. You knew I was
unemployed when I moved in. It was a casual deal then, but
since you can't garner victimhood from casual deals, you've
elevated this to some kind of broken lease.

->> I never moved any furniture there. The room I slept in was
->> certainly not mine to do with as I wished.

-> In fact it was.

No, it wasn't. It was the living room, not a bedroom, as you made
abundantly clear in your own little ways. The few friends you had
came and went through this room.

->> In effect, I was crashing on the floor of your living room.

-> In effect, you lump, you slept on the couch.

That's a bald faced lie. I had a mat on the floor. This was a
condition you set.

->> I could carry everything I brought inside, out of there in one
->>hand.

-> And this non-sequitur absolves you of paying rent because you
->lacked worldly posessions?

No, moron, it indicates how little I was allowed to decorate. All of
my stuff was in storage.

->> I washed dishes, vacuumed, swept, and did all I could to
->> help keep your disgusting messes under control.

-> Whoooo, your memories have been seriously tweaked by all that bad
->acid you did

My memories are crystal clear, and right on target, judging from your
response.

-> You were an inert piece of shit

I was so inert that I lost 60 pounds from working out. I was so inert
that I went from a soft 42 waist to a rock hard 36. You were so
impressed, at the time, that you showed me some calisthenics to try
out. I was so inert that you tried to impose a curfew on me, control
freak that you are, because I spent so much time elsewhere.

-> who played chess with Aleta on the coffeetable there

Yes, the miniature chess set was one of my allowed luxurys. And
you always were jealous of me over Aleta. I guess you still are. You
know, she got real tired of you "accidentally" walking into the
bathroom whenever she needed to go. I suppose you were mostly
envious because my girlfriend was an adult, as opposed to that poor
young [underage?] girl you were sleeping with. [You remember...the one
you wrote that self congratulatory piece about? You claimed you were
"sheltering" her.....first time I ever heard it called that, you
perverted fuck.]

-> in your room

In the living room, where I kept my mat behind the sofa until you went
to bed, so your visitors wouldn't walk on it as they came and went.

-> and offered that shit-eating grin when the subject of rent was
->brought up.

I paid you more from my income than I kept for myself. You blew it on
drugs. Don't whine to me if you can't remember.

->Your "contributions" to the household are wholly imaginary.

Nope. Your drug abused memory does not erase the facts. Your concubine
and myself did all the cleaning.

-> and you know that you left owing money.

That's right, I did. You wanted me to give you my last dollar, instead
of me using it to travel to my new job. I guess you felt your next
high was more important than me getting back on my feet. It wasn't.

When I offered to send you money later, you refused. Your words "pay
me now or never". I considered that going back to work was far more
important than quieting the tantrums you were throwing.

-> You, on the other
->hand, came in as a rent-sharing roommate who left owing money and
->changed your story afterwards to allow you to feel moral about it.

You offered me your living room floor. I offered to contribute as I
was able to. You accepted. Sadly, the truth is that you couldn't
leverage that scenario to make yourself out a victim, so now you're
concocting this "roomie" shit.

-> But the truth is that you are a thief and a liar.

The truth is you are a revisionist and a molester of mentally damaged
girls. The pornographic sculptures you made of her made me sick
inside.

->> And unlike you, I never tried to dictate to my guests when and
->>where they could go.

-> Say what? First, you weren't a "guest". You came in as a roommate
->to live in one of three rooms available in the place.

If you really believe that, then what gave you any right to try to
enforce a curfew on me? And of those three rooms "available", one was
the kitchen, one was your bedroom, and one was the living room.

I'd say the options were well defined, and the living room floor is
where *I* slept, while you snuggled with that poor girl.

> I don't recall ever >dictating anything to you about where or when you
> could go anywhere.

Of course you don't. You're a revisionist, and it would poke a big
hole in your status as a victim. You tried to set curfew on me. I
refused to knuckle under. That's all it took to turn you into the
frothing Jim hater you are today. The money thing is secondary,
but you'll never admit it.

->> For you to pretend to be a victim in this matter is laughable, and
->> shows just how desperate you've become in your twilight years for
->> any kind of attention and sympathy you can get. You were offered
->> terms, you declined, so I wash my hands of the matter.

-> I was offered "terms"??? I asked you to pay me the rent you owed
->me and you said something to the effect of, "Fuck you, I ain't
->paying you nothin'."

You're a liar. I offered to send you money after I got a paycheck
under my belt. You insisted that I give you my traveling money, right
then, and find some other way to travel to my new job. You set the
conditions, you shouldn't have been surprised at the result.

-> I wrote you off as badly brought up trailer trash, Jim.

I'm sure your drug induced self pity allowed you to write me off in
any form necessary to make you feel better. You forced me to choose
between going back to work or continuing in your good graces. After
reading your incredibly self-appreciating drivel, and knowing what the
REAL Travis is like, I can see I made the right choice.

-> Hardison - so over this fat lying bastard

Your grudges are all you have to keep you warm at night. There's no
way you'll ever be over me. You'd have to grow up first.

Now I may be overweight, but I can always get trimmed up if I want.
You, however, will be a bitter asshole until the day you die. After
that, you'll be a dead asshole, for eternity. Have fun! Buh bye!

Jim

GS

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In article <37a1ad90...@news.hiwaay.net>, jfa...@tacsys.com wrote:

Must this crap be hashed out in a public forum again?

Jim Farmer

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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:22:08 GMT, us...@somewhere.com (GS) wrote:

->In article <37a1ad90...@news.hiwaay.net>, jfa...@tacsys.com
wrote:

->Must this crap be hashed out in a public forum again?

Sorry. Hardison insists on whining about this over and over. I will
continue to correct his lies in a public forum as long as he posts
them in a public forum.

He chose to dredge up a personal dispute and post it publicly.

He then chose to dredge it up again, and indicated he'd keep
doing so til he dies.

Hardison has historically used UseNet as a forum to glorify Travis and
to promote Travis as a swell guy, so this is just a variation on a
theme. I could care less about it.

But I'm not going to sit here and allow him to post lies about me
without defending myself. If you don't like it, you can simply skip
the article, killfile me, or whatever it takes to make you happy.

Jim


Paul Robichaux

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>But I'm not going to sit here and allow him to post lies about me
>without defending myself. If you don't like it, you can simply skip
>the article, killfile me, or whatever it takes to make you happy.

As a courtesy to all those who don't want to read it, why not take it to
hsv.flame? If Glen's the only one who doesn't like it, that's one thing,
but I suspect that the majority of hsv.generalites would rather see this
discussion go elsewhere.

Cheers,
-Paul

--
Paul Robichaux <pa...@hiwaay.net>
Robichaux & Associates <http://www.robichaux.net>
NT & Exchange deployment, planning, and consulting

Jim Farmer

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:03:46 -0500, pa...@hiwaay.net (Paul Robichaux)
wrote:

->As a courtesy to all those who don't want to read it, why not take
->it to
->hsv.flame? If Glen's the only one who doesn't like it, that's one
thing,
->but I suspect that the majority of hsv.generalites would rather see
this
->discussion go elsewhere.

I have no problem with that, but I think the initiator of this little
war won't get the exposure he craves. You might take it up
with Hardison. I'll reply in whatever NG he starts it up in. Or
we can drop it right here. It's really entirely up to him.

Jim

Travis Hardison

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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In article <paulr-30079...@192.168.0.1>, pa...@hiwaay.net (Paul
Robichaux) wrote:

> In article <37a1eab...@news.hiwaay.net>, jfa...@tacsys.com wrote:
>
> >But I'm not going to sit here and allow him to post lies about me
> >without defending myself. If you don't like it, you can simply skip
> >the article, killfile me, or whatever it takes to make you happy.
>

> As a courtesy to all those who don't want to read it, why not take it to


> hsv.flame? If Glen's the only one who doesn't like it, that's one thing,

> but I suspect that the majority of hsv.generalites would rather see this

> discussion go elsewhere.

Well, Paul, it's not as if this thread has forced itself into your
house against your will, and the thread and its participants should tell
you something of what to expect. Really, if it bothers you so much, don't
read the stuff.

There are threads that *I'm* not fond of, but I don't ask, like an
alcoholic might, to be protected from myself by requesting that no one
bring beer to the picnic because I'm incapable of denying myself, even
knowing it's poison to my system.
>
> Cheers,
> -Paul

T

CRT©

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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:50:15 GMT, jfa...@tacsys.com (Jim Farmer)
wrote:

Take this horseshit somewhere else. No one cares to see dirty laundry
here.

Note: this address does not accept unsolicited e-mail. Please contain all
discussion regarding USENET posts to the appropriate newsgroup thread.


J. Porter Clark

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thardis...@mindspring.com (Travis Hardison) writes:

I'm with Paul. Take it hsv.flame, or even better, email. Nobody cares
but you two, and both of you will eventually come to regret airing your
dirty laundry in public.

Bo Williams

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"J. Porter Clark" wrote:

> I'm with Paul. Take it hsv.flame, or even better, email. Nobody cares
> but you two, and both of you will eventually come to regret airing your
> dirty laundry in public.

Indeed. And just how does one stay so angry for so long like that? I
can't fathom it. I've never been angrier at anyone in my life than I
was at my ex-fiancee, and I was still only mad at her for eighteen
months, give or take. It takes too much energy to sustain long-term
anger. That energy is better used elsewhere.
--
Bo Williams - wrwi...@mindspring.com
"Washington’s biggest technology challenge is
to stay out of your way." - Elizabeth Dole

Denise

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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Bo Williams wrote in message <37A24B09...@mindspring.com>...

>"J. Porter Clark" wrote:
>
>> I'm with Paul. Take it hsv.flame, or even better, email. Nobody cares
>> but you two, and both of you will eventually come to regret airing your
>> dirty laundry in public.
>
>Indeed. And just how does one stay so angry for so long like that? I
>can't fathom it. I've never been angrier at anyone in my life than I
>was at my ex-fiancee, and I was still only mad at her for eighteen
>months, give or take. It takes too much energy to sustain long-term
>anger. That energy is better used elsewhere.

On the other hand, it may be in our best interests that their particular
energy du jour is being expended as is . . . as opposed to wherever
'elsewhere' might lead them . . . . <g>

Denise :)
(who couldn't quite decide whether the <g> should be <grin> or <grim>)
<grin> definitely!

Dan Harper

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In article <paulr-30079...@192.168.0.1>, pa...@hiwaay.net says...

>
>In article <37a1eab...@news.hiwaay.net>, jfa...@tacsys.com wrote:
>
>>But I'm not going to sit here and allow him to post lies about me
>>without defending myself. If you don't like it, you can simply skip
>>the article, killfile me, or whatever it takes to make you happy.
>
>As a courtesy to all those who don't want to read it, why not take it to
>hsv.flame? If Glen's the only one who doesn't like it, that's one thing,
>but I suspect that the majority of hsv.generalites would rather see this
>discussion go elsewhere.

I'm enjoying the thread.

Dan Harper


Jim Garrett

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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Dan Harper wrote:
>
> I'm enjoying the thread.

Hey, we agree on something! I think this stuff is a real hoot! Let's
get back to the nitty gritty and can all this whiney stuff! <GGG>

Jim

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