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Michael Sutton

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Jun 14, 2003, 6:39:41 PM6/14/03
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Does anyone here have (or know anyone that has) a propane
powered Moquito Killer?

I have found choices in 2 or 3 brands locally at
Walmart, Lowes, Home-Depot, Ace Hardware, etc. and I'm trying
to figure out which is the better brand.

Choices:
---------
Mosquito Magnet Defender - $295 @ Home Depot and Ace Hardware
Coleman Mosquito Deleto™ System $185 @ Lowes
Lentek Propane-Powered Mosquito Trap - $218 @ Walmart.


The store manager at Ace said that the Moquito Magnet brand
was much better than the Coleman brand, but of course that
is also the unit his store sells.. The Mosquito Magnet
is also endorsed by "Paul Harvey". The person at the
local Propane shop says that his customers tell him how much they
seem to love the units when they get propane refills, but
he doesn't know which brands they have.

Consumer Reports tested them May 2003, but they did a quick
20 hour test and only tested two models. (for that short
of a test I'm not sure why they even bothered).

So... Does anyone have one or know anyone that has one?
how do you/they like it and what brand is it?
anything they didn't like about it?

I can be reached via email at mike_...@yahoo.com

-Thanks,

Michael Sutton
mike_...@yahoo.com

Bo Williams

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Jun 14, 2003, 7:01:35 PM6/14/03
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Michael Sutton wrote:

> So... Does anyone have one or know anyone that has one?
> how do you/they like it and what brand is it?
> anything they didn't like about it?

Man, I was excited when these things came on the market, because I live
in a mosquito megalopolis. If I sit on my deck after sunset, I am
bitten every 30 seconds, and I'm not exaggerating one bit. If I stayed
on my deck for 15 minutes without repellent I'd have 30 new mosquito
bites. If I use an exterior door after sunset, mosquitoes come in about
75% of the time. Every night before we go to bed, I police the walls
and ceiling in every room, looking for mosquitoes. Maybe one night a
week I *don't* find at least one. I frequently find four or five.
(They reliably roost below 60 degrees and therefore aren't a problem
then, but we're not likely to see evening temperatures that low for at
least three months.)

Anyway, my enthusiasm for the CO2 traps faded a lot when I did some
research. I used Google Groups to follow up with some folks who had
tried them. Apparently they work poorly to not at all on tiger
mosquitoes, and that's what at least half the ones I see are.

Nevertheless, if you do get one, I'd love to know how it works for you.
It's so bad at my house that I've thought about trying one anyway just
to have a decent chance at the ones that aren't tiger mosquitoes. For
now we're just going with vigilant patrols indoors and DEET outdoors,
which is obviously less than optimum.
--
Bo Williams - will...@hiwaay.net
http://hiwaay.net/~williams/

Ron Hammon

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Jun 14, 2003, 7:13:01 PM6/14/03
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Bo Williams wrote:
>
snip

> Anyway, my enthusiasm for the CO2 traps faded a lot when I did some
> research. I used Google Groups to follow up with some folks who had
> tried them. Apparently they work poorly to not at all on tiger
> mosquitoes, and that's what at least half the ones I see are.

snip

I've wondered how they would react to dry ice. My guess is that dry ice
in an open cooler equals dead mosquitoes.

--
Ron Hammon
Remove the "y" from ".nyet", when present, to reach me.

David Kelly

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Jun 14, 2003, 7:44:37 PM6/14/03
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Bo Williams wrote:
>
> Michael Sutton wrote:
>
> > So... Does anyone have one or know anyone that has one?
> > how do you/they like it and what brand is it?
> > anything they didn't like about it?
>
> Man, I was excited when these things came on the market, because I live
> in a mosquito megalopolis. If I sit on my deck after sunset, I am
> bitten every 30 seconds, and I'm not exaggerating one bit. If I stayed
> on my deck for 15 minutes without repellent I'd have 30 new mosquito
> bites.

Years ago my parents move to northern Indiana. Rented a house before
buying something else. The house was designed more along the lines of a
Florida vacation home, apparently to appeal to Chicagoans as a weekend
home. Was on a man-made skiing lake too. Had 5 sliding glass doors
facing the lake and no windows facing the street. Of an evening you
could not see the lake thru the sliding glass doors but for the
mosquitos and other night bugs.

In an attempt to do something, anything, about the bugs they purchased
an electric bug zapper. Yes, I know mosquitos are not supposed to be
interested in that light but they liked being around the other bugs and
light from the windows. The first several weeks the bug zapper was
buzzing continuously for 4 or 5 hours each night. After the first night
my parents removed the tray from the bottom of the zapper and simply
used a shovel the next morning to move the 6" deep pile of mostly dead
bugs on the ground.

After a month or so one could actually go outside without re-enacting
the "Off" TV commercials of the 70's where somebody stuck his arm in a
cage of mosquitos.

Bo Williams

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Jun 14, 2003, 9:06:25 PM6/14/03
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krh wrote:

> "Mosquitoes do not become active until temperatures reach about 45 F.
> Some research found that mosquito activity increased with increasing
> temperature to about 68 degrees. Above 68, mosquitoes become less
> active, and the pests take cover at the upper threshold temperature of
> about 82 degrees.

Note that this is a piece about Alaska. Those temps are way too low for
around here. IME they do reliably roost at about 60 degrees F, and I
can sit on my deck. 61-68 or so they're a little active--occasionally
tolerable without DEET, particularly at the lower end of the range--and
69 to 90 it's party time, baybeeeeeeeeeeee.

Above 90 I'm not generally outside unless I'm moving around a fair bit
and therefore not an attractive target, so they may even be active then
and I've just never noticed.

David Kelly

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Jun 15, 2003, 9:37:20 AM6/15/03
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krh wrote:
>
> Visit the following site and scroll to the above question.
>
> http://www.walterreeves.com/pages/874514/
>
> My neighbor has one and it's suppose to protect 1 acres. My backyard
> is within that zone and my yard is loaded with those tiger critters.
> I have to use DEET. He finds them in his trap but as the above site
> suggest, get rid of most of your water (unless it's beyond your
> control) and try to be as invisible as possible (don't breathe -
> grin). The propane devices attract the critters from all around and
> when they get in your area, they ALL don't go to the trap when human
> beings are out their. It's suggested those things have to run 24/7
> and at least 15 days to see any relief with 30 days being more likely
> (if at all).

You know if they worked half as well as the advertising hypes them to
work, we would stand a good chance of eradicating mosquitos. You know
the Greenies wouldn't tolerate that.

Michael Sutton

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Jun 16, 2003, 1:59:24 PM6/16/03
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So anyone here that has actually used one
or knows anyone that has one?

-mike

May

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Jun 16, 2003, 6:11:06 PM6/16/03
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Michael Sutton <mike_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b773503d.03061...@posting.google.com...

> So anyone here that has actually used one
> or knows anyone that has one?
>
> -mike

We have been using the Mosquite Deleto. My husband thinks it's worth the
effort because he has kept refilling the propane tank. There have been
quite a number of dead bugs, including some humongous dragonflies trying to
worm their way in. It's not a perfect system, though. We still get bit,
just not in the same numbers as before.

However, there was a recall on one version of the Mosquito Deleto. Caveat
emptor.

May

Greg Bacon

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Jun 17, 2003, 8:02:56 AM6/17/03
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In article <fbrHa.64$Q_...@fe01.atl2.webusenet.com>,
May <finckjm...@nehp.net.not> wrote:

: [...]
:
: However, there was a recall on one version of the Mosquito Deleto.
: Caveat emptor.

Careful. The LCDers around here like to jump on "elitists" who dare
to use Latin.

Greg
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think too little.
-- Charlie Munger as quoted by Whitney Tilson

Mike Weller

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Jun 17, 2003, 1:54:19 PM6/17/03
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:02:56 -0000, gba...@hiwaay.net (Greg Bacon)
wrote:


>: However, there was a recall on one version of the Mosquito Deleto.
>: Caveat emptor.
>
>Careful. The LCDers around here like to jump on "elitists" who dare
>to use Latin.
>
>Greg

OK, I've thought about it for a few seconds, but what is an "LCDer"?

Mike Weller
ipso facto, thus QED


Ron Hammon

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Jun 17, 2003, 2:01:01 PM6/17/03
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I figured that it was "Lowest Common Denominator". But, how would I
know, since I may be an LCD?

Greg Bacon

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Jun 17, 2003, 2:31:37 PM6/17/03
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In article <4d1020413b820c89...@news.onlynews.com>,
Mike Weller <Mike Weller> wrote:

: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:02:56 -0000, gba...@hiwaay.net (Greg Bacon)
: wrote:
:
: >Careful. The LCDers around here like to jump on "elitists" who dare
: >to use Latin.
:
: OK, I've thought about it for a few seconds, but what is an "LCDer"?

LCD as in Lowest Common Denominator, so LCDer in this context refers
to a language egalitarian.

Greg
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corresponding application of cleverness on the part of the maintenance
programmer eight weeks later, and such cleverness may not be available.
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Bryan Walls

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Jun 22, 2003, 5:19:43 PM6/22/03
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Does anyone know if the process used to convert propane to CO2 would
also work for Natural Gas?


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Michael Sutton

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Jul 2, 2003, 11:51:26 AM7/2/03
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recent article about this subject on CNN.com

FYI

Fight the bite with weaponry to battle mosquitoes
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/06/23/new.mosquito.gadgets/index.html


mike_...@yahoo.com (Michael Sutton) wrote in message news:<b773503d.03061...@posting.google.com>...


> Does anyone here have (or know anyone that has) a propane
> powered Moquito Killer?
>
> I have found choices in 2 or 3 brands locally at
> Walmart, Lowes, Home-Depot, Ace Hardware, etc. and I'm trying
> to figure out which is the better brand.
>
> Choices:
> ---------
> Mosquito Magnet Defender - $295 @ Home Depot and Ace Hardware

> Coleman Mosquito Deleto? System $185 @ Lowes

pjwlk

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Jul 2, 2003, 5:25:11 PM7/2/03
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> Does anyone know if the process used to convert propane to CO2 would
> also work for Natural Gas?
>

I don't believe so. CO2 is a by-product of (proper) propane
combustion and CO (Carbon Monoxide) is a by-product of Natural Gas
combustion.

Jean Smith

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Jul 2, 2003, 5:51:29 PM7/2/03
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In article <3449d144.03070...@posting.google.com>,
in...@mail.com (pjwlk) wrote:

Shirley, you jest. I wouldn't have survived my child if that were the
case.

J. Porter Clark

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Jul 3, 2003, 3:28:45 PM7/3/03
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krh writes:

>The only difference between the CO2 generator using propane and one
>using natural gas is the orifice size. CO is generated by incomplete
>combustion and any source of fuel can create CO.

Well, most of them can. Among those that can't: hydrogen, magnesium,
and hydrazine.

Does this mean that soft drinks and beer attract mosquitoes? "Doctors
attributed the outbreak of West Nile virus to excessive outdoor
belching."

--
J. Porter Clark <j...@suespammers.org>

Ron Hammon

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Jul 3, 2003, 6:46:37 PM7/3/03
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J. Porter Clark wrote:
>
>
> Does this mean that soft drinks and beer attract mosquitoes? "Doctors
> attributed the outbreak of West Nile virus to excessive outdoor
> belching."
>
Ooh! Nice catch. Forget the belching. What is the comparison in the
carbon dioxide emmitted by a sitting person WITH a carbonated beverage
versus one without?
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