Need a Brick Mailbox....Suggestions??
Mark
I woke up this morning to the 4X4 cross member of my mailbox lying out in
the street with the mailbox that was supposed to be attached...nowhere to be
found.
Well, I have had it with the kids and their vandalism of my mailbox... (3rd
time in 5 years)....I am going to put up a brick one and need some
suggestions for a competent company/bricklayer to put it up....
As it has done in the past, any help this forum could give would be greatly
appreciated..
Mark
Puma
Sorry to hear that. We don't have so many problems with mailboxes as we
do with cars getting egged. Happens a couple or three times a year.
You may want to check on your liablility on this. A friend told me that
if you put up a brick mailbox and someone hits it, you are liable for
the damages it causes.
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Michael M. Sutton
>
> Sorry to hear that. We don't have so many problems with mailboxes as we
> do with cars getting egged. Happens a couple or three times a year.
>
> You may want to check on your liablility on this. A friend told me that
> if you put up a brick mailbox and someone hits it, you are liable for
> the damages it causes.
You are liable it it's on a state highway right of way.
on a state highway, you can't put up a brick mailbox (legally)
and if somebody hits it you are liable.
if it's on a subdivision street you can put up a brick mailbox
and if somebody hits it they you aren't liable. but good luck
getting the to pay for replacing your mailbox. of course
damage to their car will be pretty stiff also.
Puma
>
> krh
“What we’ve tried to tell people in the letters we’ve sent out and the
people we’ve talked
to is that it’s not just a liability for the county, but it’s a
liability for them, too.”
- Tom Granger
Baldwin County, Alabama, Engineer
rms
ken970...@eudora.com says...
>I will assume they hit it with an automobile. Bury two concrete rebar
>reenforced poles one foot(one inch above the standard bumper) on
>either side of your mailbox protruding one foot out of the ground. The
>next time they hit it, the vehicle will bounce up and will come down
>on the concrete post about where their oil pain is. <g>
>
>Now, for those busy bodies who think I don't have a right to do this,
>check with you local police depart and they'll tell you there's no
>difference between those posts and a concrete or steel-pole mail box
>supports.
Well you probably would have been safe from liability if you hadn't
announced your intent to cause damage in a public forum. :(
I did the mailbox in a mailbox thing with concrete in between but
the mail carrier complained that he scratched his hands on it so I
took it down. The next version will be spring loaded so it just
pops back up. rms
Puma
I think you will find that mailboxes in subdivisions are located on
city/county right of ways/easements. If someone hits your brick mailbox
sitting on an easement, I think you will find yourself involved in
having the car repaired.
“What we’ve tried to tell people in the letters we’ve sent out and the
people we’ve talked to is that it’s not just a liability for the county,
but it’s a liability for them, too.”
- Tom Granger
Baldwin County, Alabama, Engineer
"No mailbox or newspaper delivery box shall be placed on the
Department's rights-of-way if it interferes with the safety of the
travelling public or the function, maintenance, or operation of the
highway system."
- State of Alabama Department of Transportation
Rule No. 450-3-1-.07 Section 2a
Puma
> reenforced poles one foot(one inch above the standard bumper) on
> either side of your mailbox protruding one foot out of the ground. The
> next time they hit it, the vehicle will bounce up and will come down
> on the concrete post about where their oil pain is. <g>
>
> Now, for those busy bodies who think I don't have a right to do this,
> check with you local police depart and they'll tell you there's no
> difference between those posts and a concrete or steel-pole mail box
> supports.
>
This is not a question for the police, it is for a lawyer. Most
officers would not answer the question. If someone is driving and hits
your mailbox defense system while trying to avoid a kid on a
bike.....Here that slurping sound? It is salivating lawyers smacking
their lips over that one.
Mark
> Department's rights-of-way if it interferes with the safety of the
> travelling public or the function, maintenance, or operation of the
> highway system."
>
> - State of Alabama Department of Transportation
> Rule No. 450-3-1-.07 Section 2a
I have no sidewalks in my subdivision so it should not interfere with the
walking public..
for that matter.....the autos and bicycles should not be in my yard where my
mailbox is anyway....(common sense wise)
geeez....what ever happened to common sense in this country....
Mark
ps..lemme get this straight...
I put up a mailbox on a pole...someone mows it down...and I might have a
hard time recovering damage expenses.??
I put up a brick mailbox that wont mow down so easy. someone hits it...and
I am liable for there car.....???
if this is the case...then they can get ready to spend some bucks cause Im
gonna drag that out in the court system for a long time....
Puma
"The Saugatuck post office superintendent says the post office tries to
discourage residents both from building their own mailboxes where
someone may get hurt if they try to vandalize it. One of the reasons for
this advice is the current legal climate. If you build your own mailbox
and your mail carrier gets cut on it, receives a splinter from it, or is
injured in any way by it, you can be liable."
http://www.veedersmailbox.com/newspaper.htm
If you have $215 dollars you can order a Veeders Mail box. It stood up
to a bulldozer
http://www.veedersmailbox.com/bulldozer.htm
I think I could replace quite a few mailboxes for $215. With my luck,
someone would steal it.
Ron Hammon
If the earlier attacks were ball bat smacks, I heard of a solution for
that. Someone told me that after some number of bashes, they built a
replica out of 1/4" plate, well-anchored to a big steel post. One
night, soon after, they heard the loud smack and scream from the
offender. I like it.
--
Ron Hammon
Remove the "y" from ".nyet", when present, to reach me.
Puma
Puma
>
> > "No mailbox or newspaper delivery box shall be placed on the
> > Department's rights-of-way if it interferes with the safety of the
> > travelling public or the function, maintenance, or operation of the
> > highway system."
> >
> > - State of Alabama Department of Transportation
> > Rule No. 450-3-1-.07 Section 2a
>
> I have no sidewalks in my subdivision so it should not interfere with the
> walking public..
> for that matter.....the autos and bicycles should not be in my yard where my
> mailbox is anyway....(common sense wise)
Mailbox is probably located on the city/county/state easement and not in
"your" yard.
>
> geeez....what ever happened to common sense in this country....
That is a very good quesiton. I think lawyers had a lot to do with it.
>
> Mark
>
> ps..lemme get this straight...
> I put up a mailbox on a pole...someone mows it down...and I might have a
> hard time recovering damage expenses.??
>
> I put up a brick mailbox that wont mow down so easy. someone hits it...and
> I am liable for there car.....???
>
> if this is the case...then they can get ready to spend some bucks cause Im
> gonna drag that out in the court system for a long time....
And you will most likely lose based on an observation you made earlier,
"what ever happened to common sense."
Michael M. Sutton
>
> I think you will find that mailboxes in subdivisions are located on
> city/county right of ways/easements. If someone hits your brick mailbox
> sitting on an easement, I think you will find yourself involved in
> having the car repaired.
But 'most' cities/counties don't have law's about
putting up a mailbox (but the state does on highways).
so being in a subdivision or on a city street removes
some of the liability...
(but i guess anybody can sue anyone for something stupid,
which of course you can counter-sue for replacement
of the mailbox, etc....)
Bo Williams
wrote:
>If the earlier attacks were ball bat smacks, I heard of a solution for
>that. Someone told me that after some number of bashes, they built a
>replica out of 1/4" plate, well-anchored to a big steel post. One
>night, soon after, they heard the loud smack and scream from the
>offender. I like it.
I used to work with a guy at the 'graph who made these sorts of boxes
for himself and friends. The box and post together weighed about 425
pounds, IIRC.
--
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http://hiwaay.net/~williams/
Google refuses business from gun and knife advertisers:
http://www.bowmansbrigade.com/google1.htm
Bo Williams
wrote:
>Gosh, it looks like all you posters are showing intent to harm the
>little bastards.
Did not. Until this post, I have not commented one way or the other.
>But, we are told that if we do such a thing, we sow
>intent and can be sued for damages because we're trying to protect
>our property.
I don't see anyone making any value judgments--I just see people
willing to inform of potential consequences. I think that some
puffed-up shit-for-brains adolescent who smacks a 425-lb. steel
mailbox with a baseball bat while hanging out of a moving car deserves
whatever he gets, but guess what? By and large, our society doesn't
seem to share my (our) sentiment. The United States of the early 21st
century is home to the most litigious society the world has ever
known, and the posts I've read seek merely to remind you of that, not
to pass judgment on the activity.
And FWIW, I have a brick mailbox.
Gary Heston
You could set a post several feet back from the curb and build an arm
extending out to the curb, 6'-8' off the ground, then hang your box from
the end of the arm with a couple pieces of logging chain. If they hit it,
it just swings away.
If you want to make the vandals a bit miserable, get one of the mailboxes
made of 1/4" plate, so they know for sure when the hit it. Optionally,
wire a flash camera and siren to the box so that it's triggered by a hard
impact.
To frustrate them, you could rig the arm on a pipe that sits on a smaller
pipe, so that you could swing the whole thing away from the curb at night;
they wouldn't have a target, that way.
Gary
--
Gary Heston ghe...@hiwaay.net
Yea, though I drive through the Vally of Truck Country,
I shall fear no SUV,
for I drive an old Volvo, and they quail before me.
Melissa
> Sorry to hear that. We don't have so many problems with mailboxes as we
> do with cars getting egged. Happens a couple or three times a year.
>
> You may want to check on your liablility on this. A friend told me that
> if you put up a brick mailbox and someone hits it, you are liable for
> the damages it causes.
>
evidently speeding down Clutts Rd in Harvest and died after crashing into a
brick mail box. I never heard any legal issues raised about the mailbox his
death, but the homeowners put up a regular mail box on a pole after the
incident rather than having the brick one re-built.
I've notice some folks have those green rubbermaid type mailboxes. I guess
they are good at resisting the work of youth vandals.
Melissa
Mark
Since I am the first house at the entrance to the subdivision, my home was
the model home 7 yrs ago.
it is the ONLY home in the subdivision w/o some form of Brick mailbox..(All
brick subdivision)
My reasons for putting up the mailbox are 3 fold...
getting inline with the rest of the subdivision
making the look of the driveway entrance more complimentary to my house
deterrant to youths thinking they are having a fun time...
I am glad there is a plce for me to vent and get some ideas...
BTW...on the way back from Home Depotlast night (with a $5 temp mailbox),via
the back way, I saw 4 more mailboxes and polls that had been totally
vandalized. As luck would have it, I also found my original mailbox about
200 yards around the corner from my house in a ditch....
I was able to replace the box with some well placed screws and angle
brackets... A little more sand in the hole to stiffen the sway and I am
back in business....
Im still looking for a reputable brick mason tho...
thx
Mark
"Mark" <bamaf...@atknology.net> wrote in message
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Ron Hammon
>
snip
> The United States of the early 21st
> century is home to the most litigious society the world has ever
> known
snip
Remember, you CAN go to prison for keeping a dog that attacked a
neighbor while in the presence of your wife and you were away even
though the dog had no attack training or prior history of such. I
wonder how this will affect the owners of circus elephants that go on a
killing spree.
Ron Hammon
>
snip
> BTW...on the way back from Home Depotlast night (with a $5 temp mailbox),via
> the back way, I saw 4 more mailboxes and polls that had been totally
> vandalized. As luck would have it, I also found my original mailbox about
> 200 yards around the corner from my house in a ditch....
I suspected that it ended up on the hood and slid off at a curve. It
might be worth asking about hood scratches at repair shops or the local
high school. Maybe the culprit's parents (assuming teenaged antics, NOT
drunken adults) know about the strange damage and might spot a note in
the classifieds.
snip
Ron Hammon
>
> In article <Hbht8.42295$To6.11...@e420r-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
> Mark <bamaf...@atknology.net> wrote:
> >Hey All,
>
> >I woke up this morning to the 4X4 cross member of my mailbox lying out in
> >the street with the mailbox that was supposed to be attached...nowhere to be
> >found.
>
> >Well, I have had it with the kids and their vandalism of my mailbox... (3rd
> >time in 5 years)....I am going to put up a brick one and need some
> >suggestions for a competent company/bricklayer to put it up....
>
> >As it has done in the past, any help this forum could give would be greatly
> >appreciated..
>
> You could set a post several feet back from the curb and build an arm
> extending out to the curb, 6'-8' off the ground, then hang your box from
> the end of the arm with a couple pieces of logging chain. If they hit it,
> it just swings away.
>
> If you want to make the vandals a bit miserable, get one of the mailboxes
> made of 1/4" plate, so they know for sure when the hit it. Optionally,
> wire a flash camera and siren to the box so that it's triggered by a hard
> impact.
>
> To frustrate them, you could rig the arm on a pipe that sits on a smaller
> pipe, so that you could swing the whole thing away from the curb at night;
> they wouldn't have a target, that way.
>
> Gary
>
As I recall, the idea was to have an upright end to the arm, opposite
the box, with the arm centered on a pivot. That way, when the "shear
pin" is defeated, the arm swings around and presents the "handle" to the
culprit.
uboatcmdr
"Mark" <bamaf...@atknology.net> wrote in message
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suggested this.
A few years ago when I lived in Memphis it seemed that I was replacing
damaged or missing mailboxes every other month. After building a SUPER box I
never found it dented or knocked down again (I did however find many a bent
bat laying nearby).
Get a 4" diameter heavy walled steel pipe (aprox. 7-8 feet long). Weld an
oversized ź inch steel platform on to one end of the pipe. Dig a BIG hole
for pole & concrete base to stand in. When setting the pole in the concrete
be sure to add a few pieces of rebar driven into the surrounding soil at
different angles for extra strength (also drill a couple of holes through
pole so you can slide rebar through to act as a cross anchor). Get a large
rural mailbox and a regular mailbox. Stand the rural mailbox on it's back
and pour some concrete into it. Set you regular mailbox in the fresh
concrete to anchor it, and then fill in the gap between the rural & regular
box with more concrete and a few short pieces of rebar. After the concrete
sets you will have a regular mailbox within a larger rural mailbox. Now
mount the rural box to the post then take a piece of ź inch steel plate heat
and bend it into the same shape as the curve of the box. Put this shield
over the box and weld it to the outer edge of the platform atop the post.
Now paint a big target on it and watch the fun as the little heathens try
playing mailbox baseball with your new SUPER mailbox.
Uboatcmdr1
"Is data u boat?"
"No, itsa nota my boat, itsa his boat, he justa soma time letta me drive."
Mike Weller
"Puma" <big_...@hotmail.moc> wrote in message
news:3CB5E3...@hotmail.moc...
> "No mailbox or newspaper delivery box shall be placed on the
> Department's rights-of-way if it interferes with the safety of the
> travelling public or the function, maintenance, or operation of the
> highway system."
>
> - State of Alabama Department of Transportation
> Rule No. 450-3-1-.07 Section 2a
In plain English that says that you can't stick your brick mailbox out into
the road.
Mike Weller
gTo
news:3cb74fdd$1...@news.teranews.com:
FWIW
When I worked construction in N. Georgia, yars and yars ago, one of our
trailers on the roadside got hit by an idiot. The investigating patrol
officer stated that as long as the trailer was 6 inches, I think, off the
roadway whiteline (the roadside stripe), the company had no liability.
It's amazing what a steel dozer transporter sitting still can do to a
moving car. Really couldn't tell where the trailer had been hit. The
totaled car ended up in someones front lawn, about 30 yards away and on
the opposite side of the road.
Teenager driving with suspended license. He was in trouble - but not
seriously hurt.
Bill "I'm Whacky" Clinton
Ron Hammon
There is a 14" diameter tree in Hartselle that I call the DWI enforcer.
The pavement on this narrow, but busy street actually wraps around the
trunk. The tree is approximately 2 inches into the pavement, but
outside a line (if there was one). It has never been struck, but looks
quite intimidating.
Sam Garrett
mortar mail box is expensive. It is cheaper to replace a 4x4 post. And it
will not be as likely to kill the idiots that run into it. Who wants to see
them killed? Better to catch them and sue the pants off them.
SAM GARRETT
Nashville, TN
http://www.samgarrett.com
"Mark" <bamaf...@atknology.net> wrote in message
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J. Porter Clark
>To frustrate them, you could rig the arm on a pipe that sits on a smaller
>pipe, so that you could swing the whole thing away from the curb at night;
>they wouldn't have a target, that way.
You could also rely on Jesus to protect the mailbox. See one person's
account of his nutty neighbor:
http://www.knology.net/~carlos/redneck.htm
--
J. Porter Clark <j...@suespammers.org>
Ron Hammon
This guy has a real problem... his own. I started out reading about the
guy stealing "2 X 4s" but then he had to nail some together since he
didn't "steal" any long enough for a mailbox post(?). Sorry, Dude,
picking up scrap pieces of 2 bys does not qualify as "stealing 2 X 4s".
1/3 MILLION hits since April 6! I doubt it.
Photos taken while hiding behind a window screen?! I m SO glad that
this guy is no neighbor of mine.
T.J. Higgins
>
>I woke up this morning to the 4X4 cross member of my mailbox lying out in
>the street with the mailbox that was supposed to be attached...nowhere to be
>found.
>
>Well, I have had it with the kids and their vandalism of my mailbox... (3rd
>time in 5 years)....I am going to put up a brick one and need some
>suggestions for a competent company/bricklayer to put it up....
>
>As it has done in the past, any help this forum could give would be greatly
>appreciated..
After some problems of this sort, my sister gave up and got a P.O box.
--
TJH
Puma
Incorrect. The right-of-way includes the easement which extends beyond
the road.
Mike Weller
"Puma" <big_...@hotmail.moc> wrote in message
> Mike Weller wrote:
> >
> > In plain English that says that you can't stick your brick mailbox out
into
> > the road.
> >
> > Mike Weller
>
> Incorrect. The right-of-way includes the easement which extends beyond
> the road.
>
> --
> For email, replace .moc with .com
Maybe, maybe not. Where I live, the easement ends at the edge of the road.
I frown upon people driving in my yard.
Mike Weller
Puma
-snip-
> to stupidity" Author: Napoleon. During one election, a group of
> women approach my property and started staking one of their signs in
> my yard. I went out and told them to remove it now. They adamantly
> refused saying they has the right put their signs anywhere on the
> public ROW.
They were kind of confused. It is not a "public" ROW but a State or
County or City ROW. I also thought some law was passed (althought you
see it all the time) about posting political signs on State ROWs.
--
Rick
rms
I have been doing some experimentation on making useful things
out of such litter. I made a nice little cat hideout by gluing
three signs in a triangle and adding ends one with a hole in it.
Also made a rain cover for a salt block. Cut a hole in the middle
and lay one flat on the ground and plant maders and stuff in the garden.
Two or three of the metal stands could be made into a tomato cage.
Lots of possibilities.
I have been thinking of publishing my results to encourage others to
make use of this unnatural resource. rms
Gary Heston
krh <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>You're correct. It is a public utility ROW - a big difference. Law or
>no law; it a politically motivated person drives a sign post between
>my house and the street in front, it will be promptly removed and
>trash canned.
Trash the sign, but save the stakes. Those are nice and sturdy, useful
for all kinds of things. And, best of all, free.
Bo Williams
wrote:
>Trash the sign, but save the stakes. Those are nice and sturdy, useful
>for all kinds of things. And, best of all, free.
Everything you say is also true of paint sticks. NEVER throw one
away!
I also have quite an impressive WD-40 straw collection now. Ditto.
Ron Hammon
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:52:56 GMT, ghe...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
> wrote:
>
> >Trash the sign, but save the stakes. Those are nice and sturdy, useful
> >for all kinds of things. And, best of all, free.
>
> Everything you say is also true of paint sticks. NEVER throw one
> away!
>
> I also have quite an impressive WD-40 straw collection now. Ditto.
So THAT'S where all of mine go! ;-)
Ron Hammon
Expand and publish!
Lee K. Seitz
>In article <3CBF19...@hotmail.moc>, big_...@hotmail.moc says...
>>
>I have been thinking of publishing my results to encourage others to
>make use of this unnatural resource. rms
Please do! Someone in my community collects and saves them for reuse.
The most obvious being using the (blank) back sides to announce
community events. (I believe he attaches two together so that the
political message is not viewable.)
--
Lee K. Seitz * lks...@hiwaay.net * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
2002: The year of the palindrome.
Lee K. Seitz
krh <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote:
>Complaints to the city
>proved nothing since the person whose name was on the signs could not
>be held culpable.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a law that *would* make them culpable
(unless they can prove their campaign didn't have the signs printed).
Hey Greg, if you get elected, how about proposing a state law like
that? I *hate* "elect me" signs on public roads. Let people put them
in their yards and leave it at that!
--
Lee K. Seitz * lks...@hiwaay.net * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
"Is it egotistical to create a quote for my signature and attribute it
to myself?"
-- Lee K. Seitz
T.J. Higgins
krh <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote:
>Taxpayers pay a pretty penny for the sign cleanup after each election.
It is my understanding that prison work crews clean up the signs
once the election is over. So the cost is no more than what we
currently pay to have the prisoners cleaning the roadway litter.
--
TJH
rms
ernest.p...@vernal.equinox.edu says...
This reminds me of a funny event. Back when the sheriff of
Morgan county was Beuford something he had some of the guys
out cleaning up the roadsides. He also just happened to be
putting out his own sighs. It made it look like he was doing
something and got his signs put out at the same time.
I was windsurfing at what is known variously as the cat hole,
redneck beach, sunnyside landing and Teluca landing. The bus
pulled up and the boys set to work picking up the litter. As
they left the weasel trusty, there is always one, pointed out
to the sheriff that one of the trash cans was on fire. One of
the boys just couldn't resist a little fun. He just sort of
groaned and drove off leaving it to burn. rms
Greg Bacon
Lee K. Seitz <lks...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
: In article <odsubu0qn54ngei7d...@4ax.com>,
: krh <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote:
:
: >Complaints to the city
: >proved nothing since the person whose name was on the signs could not
: >be held culpable.
:
: Wouldn't it be nice to have a law that *would* make them culpable
: (unless they can prove their campaign didn't have the signs printed).
Guilty until proven innocent? Yikes! Even corrupt politicians are
entitled to presumption of innocence.
: Hey Greg, if you get elected, how about proposing a state law like
: that? I *hate* "elect me" signs on public roads. Let people put them
: in their yards and leave it at that!
There's already a law that forbids planting them on state highways,
but the War on Political Signs has been just as effective as the Wars on
Drugs, Poverty, Illiteracy, Terror, etc.
As if it were a surprise, campaign regulations are only incumbent
protection measures in disguise. If elected, I'll vote against campaign
"reforms", not add more garbage to the pile.
I find the signs to be an eyesore too, but politicians wouldn't spend
as much money and effort in printing and planting them if we voters
didn't respond so positively to them.
Greg
--
Greg Bacon, Libertarian for Alabama Senate (District 7)
Mission: Fighting for small, just, inexpensive, non-intrusive government
Remember: The only pork Alabama needs is Bacon!
URL: http://www.VoteBacon.com/
Lee K. Seitz
Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>There's already a law that forbids planting them on state highways,
>but the War on Political Signs has been just as effective as the Wars on
>Drugs, Poverty, Illiteracy, Terror, etc.
Is there a law against me going out and taking them back down? I mean
specifically. I know there's laws against pedestrians and such on
certain roadways, but I figure the people who put them up broke them
in the first place.
Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of free time. And what would I
do with them? I don't have room to store them for eventual reuse.
--
Lee K. Seitz * lks...@hiwaay.net * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
Greg Bacon
Lee K. Seitz <lks...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
: In article <uc63kl9...@corp.supernews.com>,
: Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
:
: >There's already a law that forbids planting them on state highways,
: >but the War on Political Signs has been just as effective as the Wars on
: >Drugs, Poverty, Illiteracy, Terror, etc.
:
: Is there a law against me going out and taking them back down? I mean
: specifically. I know there's laws against pedestrians and such on
: certain roadways, but I figure the people who put them up broke them
: in the first place.
There probably is. In America, we can't seem to make an illegal
activity "illegal enough".
: Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of free time. And what would I
: do with them? I don't have room to store them for eventual reuse.
You could always sell the stakes to politicians (maybe even back to the
law breaking sign planter) at a discount! :-)
rms
>Is there a law against me going out and taking them back down? I mean
>specifically. I know there's laws against pedestrians and such on
>certain roadways, but I figure the people who put them up broke them
>in the first place.
They do not enjoy any protected status so they are legally litter.
If you can be there, you can pick them up. To be lawful a person
has to stand there and hold it. Defacing them seems to be perfectly
lawful too. There is no law against defacing litter. rms
Gary Heston
>Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>>There's already a law that forbids planting them on state highways,
>>but the War on Political Signs has been just as effective as the Wars on
>>Drugs, Poverty, Illiteracy, Terror, etc.
>Is there a law against me going out and taking them back down? I mean
>specifically. I know there's laws against pedestrians and such on
>certain roadways, but I figure the people who put them up broke them
>in the first place.
There is no law against it. Every campaign season, there's usually a
news article about a guy who's retired, and spends his time doing
exactly that. I think he's worn out a couple of pickup trucks, now.
>Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of free time. And what would I
>do with them? I don't have room to store them for eventual reuse.
Recycle the paper, give the stakes to people who can use them.
Gary
--
Gary Heston ghe...@hiwaay.net
Yea, though I drive through the Valley of Truck Country,
Lee K. Seitz
Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>You could always sell the stakes to politicians (maybe even back to the
>law breaking sign planter) at a discount! :-)
Great idea! How many can I sign you up for? 8) Seriously, are we
going to see "Vote Bacon, not pork" signs littering the landscape?
Oh, and for the record, I'm not in your district.
--
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"Don't believe anything you read on the net. Except this. Well,
including this, I suppose."
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Lee K. Seitz
krh <ken...@eudora.com> wrote:
>Only the people can end this charade demanding that no signs be
>erected and if they are, they vow not to vote for the candidate.
I've thought about it, but would there be anybody left to vote for?
Lee K. Seitz
Gary Heston <ghe...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>There is no law against it. Every campaign season, there's usually a
>news article about a guy who's retired, and spends his time doing
>exactly that. I think he's worn out a couple of pickup trucks, now.
Sounds like someone who might live in my neighborhood.
--
Lee K. Seitz * lks...@hiwaay.net * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/
Greg Bacon
Lee K. Seitz <lks...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
: In article <ucast9c...@corp.supernews.com>,
: Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
:
: >You could always sell the stakes to politicians (maybe even back to the
: >law breaking sign planter) at a discount! :-)
:
: Great idea! How many can I sign you up for? 8) Seriously, are we
: going to see "Vote Bacon, not pork" signs littering the landscape?
Hey, that's catchy! If, by "littering the landscape", you mean signs
on the highways, the answer is a firm "No!" I despise the sign wars.
: Oh, and for the record, I'm not in your district.
That's ok; I'll still welcome your support! I'm running to represent
District Liberty, whose residents are horribly underrepresented.
rms
>
>In article <ucc1unf...@corp.supernews.com>,
> Lee K. Seitz <lks...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
>: In article <ucast9c...@corp.supernews.com>,
>: Greg Bacon <gba...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>:
>: going to see "Vote Bacon, not pork" signs littering the landscape?
>
>Hey, that's catchy! If, by "littering the landscape", you mean signs
>on the highways, the answer is a firm "No!" I despise the sign wars.
http://home.HiWAAY.net/~rms//TEMP/morebob.jpg
rms
Ron Hammon
snip
>
> Guilty until proven innocent? Yikes! Even corrupt politicians are
> entitled to presumption of innocence.
But not employees. (Pre-employment and random drug screens "prove"
innocence.)
snip
uboatcmdr
"Gary Heston" <ghe...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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holder for targets at the shooting range. Just stop at almost any coner a
grab a few on your way to the range next time you head out to sight in your
rifle. Better yet start grabbing a bunch now so you'll have a big enough
supply to last you the rest of the year. Bet old "Gun Ban Bud" would hate to
hear that he helped support my target shooting habit.
What would really screw them up would be if everyone voted for the guy who
didn't use any signs or the one who put out the least amount of them.