Evans
Closest I could find is "Huntsville" by Merle Haggard, but I tend to
believe that since it comes of his album "Prison," it refers to
Huntsville, Texas (The state prison where they do all the executions in
Texas).
http://www.songsearch.net/scripts/itemdetail.taf?dist=dom&cb=72435344532
Mike Anderson
Evans
In article <pan.2003.04.22.15.02.12.37566@email.I_GO_TO_BUT_DON'T_TYPEuah.edu>,
Try calling the radio station and getting the info on the song. I believe
radio stations keep a play log, so they should be ablt to tell you the
title, track, album, artist, etc.
--
Paul F. Pearson (ppea...@hiwaay.net) http://home.hiwaay.net/~ppearson/
"Lord heal our land. Father heal our land. Hear our cry and turn our nation
back to You" - Heal Our Land, _Magnify The Lord_ (Integrity Music)
Evans
In article <vaamtva...@corp.supernews.com>,
Evans
In article <vaao972...@corp.supernews.com>,
I'm probably showing my ignorance of country music, but I can't find
anything on Bobby Brooks. Would he be known by another name?
I don't generally listen to country, but I kind of liked WTKI when they
played it - that style wasn't whine-y, and generally wasn't full of
"drinkin', fightin', screwin' around" kind of songs (that I can recall).
> This one is talking about being on Monte Sano
> looking down at the million lights of Huntsville, and mentions
> that his girl is down there dancing, and mentions several nightspots,
> liek the Cotton Club, the Carousel, and several others I can't remember
> an hour and a half after hearing the song.
Let me know if you find it ... get two. When I was last working in DC, I
used to pull up the tower CAM to look at Huntsville where my wife and
home were. It often got a little blurry and not from the weather.
Some of my happiest times were cresting 72 and seeing the valley lights.
In the winter when the trees are bare, driving back from Brindley
mountain is also a special treat.
Bob Wilson
I remember, as a child (God - 25 to 30 years ago) looking forward to
coming over 72 East and seeing Huntsville's lights - I thought it looked
like a Christmas tree. I still enjoy that sight at times.
If I remember correctly, I'd guess 1969, plus or minus a few years.
--
Ron Hammon
Remove the "y" from ".nyet", when present, to reach me.
Try http://fly.hiwaay.net/~mdsmith/index.html instead. Interesting guy!
Evans
A google search of hsv.general turned up that "Huntsville Lights" was
performed by a local artist - which could explain why I couldn't find any
info on him. There was also a (dead) link to page which had MP3's of
several songs mentioning Huntsville, AL (as Carol mentioned). You could
possibly find/contact the author of that page.
>Evans
> There was also a (dead) link to page which had MP3's of
> several songs mentioning Huntsville, AL (as Carol mentioned). You could
> possibly find/contact the author of that page.
I got this e-mail tonight:
From: Donald Derrick, ...
To: ...
Yes, I have it saved as an mp3. Would you like to download it to
your computer?
I sent him a 'yes' and will share once I get it.
Bob Wilson
Hi,
I got this e-mail today:
Subject: Re: Huntsville Lights?
Sent: 4/28/20 11:23 AM
Received: 4/24/03 8:08 PM
From: Donald Derrick, ****
To: bwilson, ****
Bob,
Here's the link to download from:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~dderrick/HuntsvilleLights.mp3
Tell anyone else you think who may want to download it
as well. I will only leave it up for a few days. (afraid it
may be putting me over my limit on storage space)
Enjoy and let me what you think!
Donald Derrick
Bob Wilson
May
> Thank you! Please tell Mr. Derrick thanks, too.
>
> May
I'll collect them all and send them out Saturday morning.
Bob Wilson
Thanks from the hsv general chief lurker. I remembered hearing the
song several years ago. Glad to have a copy of it.
>Enjoy and let me what you think!
>
>Donald Derrick
>
>Bob Wilson
What a hoot!
I lost both contact lenses crying into my beer before I finished
replaying the thing for the second time.
BTDT :-) :-) :-)
Mike Weller
In "Huntsville Lights" by Bobby Brooks, four Huntsville
nightspots are mentioned:
1. Cotton Club
2. Carousel
3. Esquire
4. Peppermint Lounge
So, who knows any of the history of any of these,
such as location and years of operation plus any
other details you may know or may have heard.
Evans A Criswell
http://hsvmovies.com
The Cotton Club was a happening place on the corner of Jordan and Holmes
(near Booklegger) and had rock and roll bands until the early 70's when it
burned. There was a rash of night club fires back then and a now dead rival
nightclub owner was widely suspected. (Diplomat) I was not of legal age to
enter but I snuck in once or twice.
> 2. Carousel
University Drive I think (where the redneck sports bar is now) and it was
C&W
> 3. Esquire
I believe this was on Jordan Lane
> 4. Peppermint Lounge
I think it was C&W. I remember it but don't remember where it was. I think
it was on S. Parkway.
>"Evans A Criswell" <cris...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>news:valsedk...@corp.supernews.com...
>> So now that we've nailed this song down and found
>> an MP3 of it, let's discuss another obvious topic
>> of interest concerning this song:
>>
>> In "Huntsville Lights" by Bobby Brooks, four Huntsville
>> nightspots are mentioned:
>>
>> 1. Cotton Club
>
>The Cotton Club was a happening place on the corner of Jordan and Holmes
>(near Booklegger) and had rock and roll bands until the early 70's when it
>burned. There was a rash of night club fires back then and a now dead rival
>nightclub owner was widely suspected. (Diplomat) I was not of legal age to
>enter but I snuck in once or twice.
I remember this one being near the corner of University Dr and
Memorial Parkway. Between Krispy Kreme and the old Sizzler building.
Seems like it was a C&W joint and I recall somebody getting shot and
killed in the parking lot.
For some reason I was thinking the Carousel was the club up on the hill off
of Golf Road.
No, that was the Plush Horse.
That was the Plush Horse owned by the infamous Dewy Brazelton.
That was another club years after the original burned. If you want a good
history of clubs in the 70's stop in Robbins Music Center and talk to Jack
Robbins if he's there. He had a band that played at the original. He now
has a band called Time Machine. When I'm more awake, I'll try to post my
club hopping stories of the 70's after I became of legal age to hit the
exciting Huntsville Night Spots.
Carol is correct. Carousel was a C&W place on University Dr. where
Bench Warmer is now.
--
TJH
How is he infamous? The Plush Horse was the hangout for Hartselle
patrons. I never knew anything about the owner. However, I expected
that they knew Ike and Tina well since they ALWAYS (and Tina alone,
later) practiced for a tour there.
Can't tell you in public. He's still alive. Perhaps a conversation for the
hsv.general lunch. My days as a young bar-hopping U.A.H. coed in the
swinging 70's.
T.P. Crockmiers was da bomb.
> "Ron Hammon" <rha...@charter.nyet> wrote in message
> news:3EAC89...@charter.nyet...
> > Carol Farquhar wrote:
> > >
> > snip
> > >
> > > That was the Plush Horse owned by the infamous Dewy Brazelton.
> >
> > How is he infamous? The Plush Horse was the hangout for Hartselle
> > patrons. I never knew anything about the owner. However, I expected
> > that they knew Ike and Tina well since they ALWAYS (and Tina alone,
> > later) practiced for a tour there.
>
> Can't tell you in public. He's still alive. Perhaps a conversation for the
> hsv.general lunch.
I will be all ears at the next lunch then.
> My days as a young bar-hopping U.A.H. coed in the
> swinging 70's.
Will I recognize you?
> T.P. Crockmiers was da bomb.
I used to play at TPs in the mid 70's, and now that it is a viet chow hall I
miss the old ambiance.
--
Mike C
: "Evans A Criswell" <cris...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
: news:valsedk...@corp.supernews.com...
:
: > 1. Cotton Club
:
: The Cotton Club was a happening place on the corner of Jordan and
: Holmes (near Booklegger) and had rock and roll bands until the early
: 70's when it burned. [...]
That location is a bad fire risk, huh?
Greg
--
Wishing won't make it so.
-- Ayn Rand
http://www.virtourist.com/america/pittsburgh/index.html
http://www.carnegiesciencecenter.org/
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/
1. Cotton Club
Appears to have opened in 1968 or 1969 at 4001 Holmes (where Sunburst
and Booklegger are). The club had several managers: Pless R. Knight (1970),
Jimmy W. Robinson (1971, 1972), Dennis Stephens (1973-1975). Nothing was
listed as being at the location in 1976 or 1977. In 1978, the Goodyear
Shoe Repair Shop was at that location, and in 1979-1981, Avco Financial
Services was there. In 1982, there was a shopping center with 4 stores:
Malone Simpson and Associates (Architects), Creative Hair Designs,
Gazebo Florist and Gifts, and Shoe Corner. This changed in 1986 to
Sunburst Records, Creative Hair Designs, a vacant spot, and Hit Videos
video rentals. In 1988, Booklegger was listed as being in the vacant spot.
2. Carousel
Appears to have opened in 1968 or 1969 at 3000 University Drive. Bob
Adcock and Benny Ivey were listed in 1969 as managers. It was not
listed in 1970, but in 1971-1974 it was listed again with
Robert E. Adcock as the manager. During 1975-1992, Bob Brockman was
listed as the manager. In 1993, Joe Stafford was listed as the manager.
During 1996-2001, this place was the "Wild Wild West". The Bench Warmer
is listed as 2998 University Drive, and now, I'm not sure if the whole
place is the Bench Warmer, or if half of it is something else. The
Wild Wild West and Bench Warmer were both listed at 3000 and 2998,
respectively for a bit.
3. Esquire
It's still there! It's not listed in the phone book or anything, but
it's there. It's at Governors and 12th on the southwest corner (across from
the post office and across from the shopping center where Terry's Pizza is.
It's called the "Esquire 2000 Sports Bar". It opened in 1971 or 1972 at
3701 Governors Drive. Earl Campbell was manager 1972-1973. Jerry and
Clifton Byrom were listed as managers 1974-1975. In 1976 and 1977,
"The Accent House", a crafts business, was listed as being at the location.
In 1978, it was "Jimmy's Little Lounge", then during 1979-1988, it was
the Esquire Lounge again and Daniel Hogue managed it. In 1989, it was
listed as "Hogue's Lounge". Then it's been listed as the "Esquire Lounge"
1990-2001, and is now the "Esquire 2000 Sports Bar" as I said before.
4. Peppermint Lounge
The Peppermint Lounge opened in 1965 or 1966 at 913A Orchard St. NW.
Benny Ivey was manager in 1966. James A. Stephens was listed as manager
in 1968 and 1969. In 1970, the location was at 2322 Memorial Parkway SW,
with Gerald Stephens managing from 1970-1978. In 1979, "South Central Bell
Telephone Work Center" and "The Pepper Tree" were listed as being at the
location. In 1980, "The Pepper Tree, had become "The Silver Nugget Lounge",
changing to "The Super Star Club" in 1982 and "J.B.'s Playground" in 1983,
By 1985, and at least until 1993, "The Hop" was the front building near
the road with "Steve's Billiards" in the rear. By 1996, "The Hop" had
become "Pier IX". By 1999, it was "Flirtz Jewelry Designs". By 2001, it
was "Bears and Bulls", which the sign still says. Steve's is still in the
rear.
The Plush Horse wasn't mentioned in the song, of course, but since someone
else mentioned it, I'll go through its history as well:
The Plush Horse opened in 1972 or 1973 at 2021 Golf Road. Dewey Braselton
(sometimes spelled Braselton and sometimes spelled Brazelton in the listings)
was the manager until 1985. In 1986-1988, Frank Digesy, Jr. was the manager.
After 1988, the club went through a lot of changes:
1988 : P'zaz
1989 : Sneakers
1991 : Plush Horse II
1991 : Plush Horse II
1992 : J T B Inc.
1992 : Portfolios
1993 : Peach Pit
1995 : no listing
1996 : no listing
1998 : Groove Monkeys, Upscale
1999 : The Rock
2001 : Upscale (what it is now)
It changed so quickly I might have missed some.
Cotton Club:
Clark Steadman's Barbecue and Restaurant existed at this location from
1951-1963. Then, through 1957, that section of Holmes Avenue was known as
Athens Pike west of Jordan. After 1957, the address was 4001 Holmes Ave.
The Plantation Restaurant was at that location in 1964 and 1965, and
was listed as vacant in 1966 and 1968. 1969 was the first year it was
listed as the "Cotton Club".
Carousel:
3000 University was listed as Rhett Woody Furniture from 1960-1962,
then Discount Furniture Center from 1963, then Derrick's Furniture
Center in 1964. It was listed as a Western Auto store in 1966, vacant
in 1968, and as the Carousel starting in 1969. University Drive, originally
just called "US 72 West" was first listed as existing in 1960.
Esquire:
My opening date was wrong. The Esquire opened by 1962, and not the early
70s as my first research led me to believe. At 1201 5th Avenue, the
C&G Cafe was at the location by 1955. It was listed as the R. G. Cafe during
1957-1961. In 1958, the location's address was 3701 Governors Drive, when
5th Avenue was renamed to Governors Drive. The location is listed as the
Esquire starting in 1962.
Plush Horse:
The address, 2021 Golf Road, didn't seem to exist before the Plush Horse
opened. 1962 is the first year that Golf Road was listed as existing.
1973 is the first year the Plush Horse was listed as being at the location.
Evans A Criswell
hsvmovies.com
Among other things, he was (is?) associated with "organized crime" (the
mob) and it was well known that he dealt drugs and prostitution through the
Plush Horse and through his car dealership.
<snip>
>Plush Horse:
>
>The address, 2021 Golf Road, didn't seem to exist before the Plush Horse
>opened. 1962 is the first year that Golf Road was listed as existing.
>1973 is the first year the Plush Horse was listed as being at the location.
>
>
>Evans A Criswell
>hsvmovies.com
IIRC the Huntsville Dinner Theater was there before it was the Plush
Horse, I might be dreaming, but I think it was a country club before
it was the Dinner Theater.
I guess that is Huntsville "knowledge". We are/were oblivious.
As far as mob involvement is concerned, I always smile at the thought of
an Alabama arm of "the" mob. When I worked in Cincinnati, everyone there
thought that there was a mobster under every rock. There WAS a feeling
of submission and resolve that ran through that society that I cannot
even imagine here. I am pretty convinced that the percentage of
"Bubbas" here, spoiling for a fight, would make the establishment of a
threatening "mob" (in that same sense) totally unworkable.
When I worked in Jackson, Tennessee, and stopped often in Henderson
County, I learned to SERIOUSLY doubt the "Walking Tall" legend of Buford
Pusser fighting the "mob". The locals were convinced that Buford WAS
the bad guy. Among other things, he made a habit of attacking "hippies"
passing through with his baseball bat. The general concensus was that
his shooting was an act of self-preservation by locals rather than a mob
hit.
I'm not yet ready to join the argument that "the mob" doesn't really
exist at all and the idea is perpetuated by the FBI for obvious
reasons. However, as far as any "mob" being around here, I'd have to
see some evidence before I'd accept the idea. If there was such a
thing, I, more than most, should've bumped into it by now.
The only place around here that I've found to have the perceptable
undercurrent of secrecy, defensiveness, and network required is Winston
County. I don't know what is really going on there, but I suspect it is
merely a network of bad-ass "Bubbas".
snipped
>When I worked in Jackson, Tennessee, and stopped often in Henderson
>County, I learned to SERIOUSLY doubt the "Walking Tall" legend of Buford
>Pusser fighting the "mob". The locals were convinced that Buford WAS
>the bad guy. Among other things, he made a habit of attacking "hippies"
>passing through with his baseball bat. The general concensus was that
>his shooting was an act of self-preservation by locals rather than a mob
>hit.
LOL! You should have heard the rumors McNairy County (where he was
Sheriff) folks produced. When the news was released that the brakes
had been cut on the car he died in, I heard more the one person there
say "I can't say I'm sorry he's dead. The only thing I'm sorry about
is I didn't have anything to do with it." Oh, and general consensus
there was Buford hired the shooters to get rid of his wife. He wasn't
supposed to have gotten shot...that part may have been local revenge
or self preservation.
OK, I know this thread is long dead but... here's what I know, the
song came out on AM country radio (local WBHP) in about '75/'76 by
yes, Bobby Brooks. Bobby still sings today at the American Legion on
Drake Ave (well he was there a few months ago). I have not caught his
act lately but I would be willing to bet you could get him to sing it
LIVE for you.
Being a Huntsville native, I remember the song and the bars well.
Although at the time, I was only 16 so I never got to go to the bars
he mentions. :(
Dorian
I used to sneak in to the Cotton Club to hear Jack Robbins band.