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J. Porter Clark

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com writes:

>In article <4e3cqf$p...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>, j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov (J.
>Porter Clark) writes:

>>lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com writes:
>
> [me wondering why my articles are time stamped wrong]
>>
>>The Date: header on your article is:
>>
>>Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:43:56 GMT
>>
>>...which is about 1:44 pm CST. How close was it?

>It was about 11:30, quarter 'til. I was munchin' on a reuben. Light
>on the sauerkraut. Wanna know what I had to drink?? *snicker*

As Jeff Spence has pointed out, I was wrong; I should have said 11:44
am and not 1:44 pm. So the Date: header appears to be about right. I
might try to supersede my erroneous article with a corrected version if
I can find the time. (The pun is unintentional.)

So, Leona, what *did* you have to drink? I had ginger ale, straight
up. 8-)

--
J. Porter Clark j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov
NASA/MSFC Flight Data Systems Branch

Chris Adams

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <4e3cqf$p...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>,
J. Porter Clark <j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
<snip>
>25 ro.com
>3 phase4.com
<snip>
>There are some other things you need to watch for. I notice that
>ro.com and phase4.com's entries together equal iquest.com's. Are
>ro.com and phase4.com the same company? Similarly, we have
>traveller.com and crystaldata.com.

Renaissance (ro.com) is owned by Phase IV Systems (phase4.com).
Renaissance is an ISP and ro.com is for the ISP customers, where
phase4.com is for the employees of Phase IV.

Looking at the InterNIC information for the Traveller domain, I guess
there is the same relationship between Traveller and Crystal Data
Systems (the traveller.com domain is registered to Crystal Data
Systems).

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"So, if anybody wants to have hardware sent to them: don't call me, but
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for me." - Linus Torvalds, author of Linux (Unix-like) OS

lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <4e32ul$j...@vespucci.iquest.com>, mpr...@cs.uah.edu (Michael
Pruitt) writes:

>Flame bait? Okay, maybe it is. It's just that ingr people are the largest
>"obviously posting from work" group of people in hsv.general. I'm not saying
>that others don't do it, just that ingr people are the most noticeable.
>
>I've noticed that almost all of the posts originating from the ingr domain
>appear to occur during the day; presumably while the posters are at work.
>Are your supervisors aware of the amount of time you spend on the Net? Do
>they care? Or do you just assume the "as long as I get my work done, it
>shouldn't matter what I do" attitude?
>
>Not trying to start a flame-fest; just curious.

It's kind of funny, actually. I came to work a half hour early last
week, got coffee, sat down, read the news and posted an article. However,
when I downloaded articles again, the time stamped on my post said 10:35
AM. Bull. I'm on my lunch right now as I write this, wonder what time
it will stamp on it now? 3:PM? Who knows? Anybody?

But to answer your question, I've noticed more .hiwaay.net people posting
than people from ingr. I count about five people from ingr posting on
any given day. The volume on this newsgroup is so low it's almost a joke,
so maybe that's why you notice it more.

-Ever helpful-

lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <4e32ul$j...@vespucci.iquest.com>, mpr...@cs.uah.edu (Michael
Pruitt) writes:

[newsgroups trimmed, 'cause I don't know what the crap alt.pud is]

>Flame bait? Okay, maybe it is. It's just that ingr people are the largest
>"obviously posting from work" group of people in hsv.general. I'm not saying
>that others don't do it, just that ingr people are the most noticeable.
>
>I've noticed that almost all of the posts originating from the ingr domain
>appear to occur during the day; presumably while the posters are at work.
>Are your supervisors aware of the amount of time you spend on the Net? Do
>they care? Or do you just assume the "as long as I get my work done, it
>shouldn't matter what I do" attitude?
>
>Not trying to start a flame-fest; just curious.

Oh yeah. One last thing.

WHY AREN'T YOU IN CLASS??????

-L-

J. Porter Clark

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com writes:

>It's kind of funny, actually. I came to work a half hour early last
>week, got coffee, sat down, read the news and posted an article. However,
>when I downloaded articles again, the time stamped on my post said 10:35
>AM. Bull. I'm on my lunch right now as I write this, wonder what time
>it will stamp on it now? 3:PM? Who knows? Anybody?

The Date: header on your article is:

Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:43:56 GMT

...which is about 1:44 pm CST. How close was it?

>But to answer your question, I've noticed more .hiwaay.net people posting


>than people from ingr. I count about five people from ingr posting on
>any given day. The volume on this newsgroup is so low it's almost a joke,
>so maybe that's why you notice it more.

Oooh...statistics....oooh...

I took all of the NNTP-Posting-Host: headers I could find on the
news.msfc.nasa.gov spool in the hsv.* groups. I removed the hsv.jobs
and hsv.forsale groups because they are spam magnets. After stripping
off some of the front ends of the host names, I came up with this
frequency of occurrence:

163 ingr.com
134 hiwaay.net
50 traveller.com
43 msfc.nasa.gov
32 garply.com
29 iquest.com
25 ro.com
18 mtronics.com
13 aol.com
11 uu.net
10 redstone.army.mil
4 uah.edu
4 internetmci.com
4 hsval.com
3 phase4.com
3 netcom.com
3 cora.net
2 ripco.com
2 mcs.net
2 gate.net
2 demon.co.uk
1 umd.edu
1 uic.edu
1 tvs.net
1 sga.com
1 scott.net
1 rahul.net
1 onramp.net
1 netgate.net
1 mindspring.com
1 lucking.com
1 hou.idt.net
1 hmi.com
1 hip.cam.org
1 dircon.co.uk
1 dial-access.att.net
1 crystaldata.com
1 ccnet.com
1 ais.net
1 adnetsol.com

Please note that expiration policy and propagation quirks may make the
results vary a lot from server to server.

There are some other things you need to watch for. I notice that
ro.com and phase4.com's entries together equal iquest.com's. Are
ro.com and phase4.com the same company? Similarly, we have
traveller.com and crystaldata.com.

Oh, well, it was an interesting 1-minute exercise.

[BTW, alt.pud trimmed from Newsgroups header]

J. Porter Clark

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Jeff Spencer <jlsp...@hiwaay.net> writes:

>j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark) wrote:

>snip

>>The Date: header on your article is:
>>
>>Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:43:56 GMT
>>
>>...which is about 1:44 pm CST. How close was it?

>Not. Try 11:44 am CST.

>Jeff

You're right. I don't know how I came up with 1:44 pm. It's 11:44,
just as you said.

lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <4e3he1$s...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>, j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov (J.
Porter Clark) writes:

>lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com writes:
>
>>In article <4e3cqf$p...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>, j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov (J.
>>Porter Clark) writes:
>
>>>lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com writes:
>>
>> [me wondering why my articles are time stamped wrong]
>>>

>>>The Date: header on your article is:
>>>
>>>Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:43:56 GMT
>>>
>>>...which is about 1:44 pm CST. How close was it?
>

>>It was about 11:30, quarter 'til. I was munchin' on a reuben. Light
>>on the sauerkraut. Wanna know what I had to drink?? *snicker*
>
>As Jeff Spence has pointed out, I was wrong; I should have said 11:44
>am and not 1:44 pm. So the Date: header appears to be about right. I
>might try to supersede my erroneous article with a corrected version if
>I can find the time. (The pun is unintentional.)

All in all, it's actually *my* mistake, as I paid no attention to the
GMT and just assumed it was CST. So, maybe when I read the article I
thought was posted at around 10:30AM it was the same case, which.....
...still confuses the pa-jeebers outta me, *shrug* but oh well...


>
>So, Leona, what *did* you have to drink? I had ginger ale, straight
>up. 8-)

Ginger ale is good. Prefer Alta Springs[tm] over Canada Dry[tm] though.
More bubbles.

-Leona-(Pinkgrapefruitjuiceforlunch -R- Us)

Ps. I can't get hsv.flame to subscribe for some reason and I'm not
posting articles to a group I can't read so I trimmed it. Paranoid?
Who? Me??!!??

Bo Williams

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Indeed an interesting exercise, J.--but doesn't it count
articles rather than posters?
--
Bo Williams
wrwi...@ingr.com
Not speaking for Intergraph Corporation.

Michael Pruitt

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Flame bait? Okay, maybe it is. It's just that ingr people are the largest
"obviously posting from work" group of people in hsv.general. I'm not saying
that others don't do it, just that ingr people are the most noticeable.

I've noticed that almost all of the posts originating from the ingr domain
appear to occur during the day; presumably while the posters are at work.
Are your supervisors aware of the amount of time you spend on the Net? Do
they care? Or do you just assume the "as long as I get my work done, it
shouldn't matter what I do" attitude?

Not trying to start a flame-fest; just curious.

--
Michael Pruitt | "I'M G0iNg t0 sUe 3we!@#!!!"
mpr...@cs.uah.edu | --some hsv.general loser


J. Porter Clark

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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Bo Williams <wrwi...@ingr.com> writes:

>Indeed an interesting exercise, J.--but doesn't it count
>articles rather than posters?

Yes, but that was my intent. I can run it the other way if you'd
like...

Larry and Linda Billings

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com wrote:

>In article <4e36os$a...@b30news.b30.ingr.com>, lcfr...@hq.pcmail.ingr.com
>writes:


>
>>But to answer your question, I've noticed more .hiwaay.net people posting
>>than people from ingr. I count about five people from ingr posting on
>>any given day. The volume on this newsgroup is so low it's almost a joke,
>>so maybe that's why you notice it more.


Some of so both, when I can post from ingr.com.


>Well, that would be because I can't answer for everybody posting from ingr.
>In my position, it would be "my manager doesn't care as long as I get my
>work done." And I do.


When I post to ingr.general, I do so on my OSHA guanteed 15 minute morning
and afternoon breaks, OR my 45 minute lunch.

>And that's a pretty BROAD generalization about Ingr employees since
>there are quite a few hundreds here in Huntsville and like I said I only
>see a few ingr employees posting on any given day.


Well it is always easier to pick on the big guy. With what do we have now
3900 employees in Huntsville? If each of us just posted one article per
week, we would flood hsv.general.


Paul Stephanouk

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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cad...@fly.HiWAAY.net (Chris Adams) wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

>In article <4e3cqf$p...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>,
>J. Porter Clark <j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
><snip>
>>25 ro.com
>>3 phase4.com
><snip>

>>There are some other things you need to watch for. I notice that
>>ro.com and phase4.com's entries together equal iquest.com's. Are
>>ro.com and phase4.com the same company? Similarly, we have
>>traveller.com and crystaldata.com.

>Renaissance (ro.com) is owned by Phase IV Systems (phase4.com).


>Renaissance is an ISP and ro.com is for the ISP customers, where
>phase4.com is for the employees of Phase IV.

It's also worth noting that mtronics.com is the parent company of
interQuest (iquest.com).

Paul


Scott Carle

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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> >j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark) wrote:
>
> >snip
>
>> >>...which is about 1:44 pm CST. How close was it?
>
> >Not. Try 11:44 am CST.
> > --
> J. Porter Clark j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov
> NASA/MSFC Flight Data Systems Branch

--

And exactly what do you do for NASA?
Not a flame, just thought it was funny. You probably meant 11:44 but
missed the extra 1.

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