The Global Industrial Revolution Part II
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Matthew R. Giorgio
Dec 1, 2011, 4:07:48 PM12/1/11
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Read the excerpts from the Lives of Industrial Workers (particularly
the Saddler Report) http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
and answer the following questions:
the Saddler Report) http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
and answer the following questions:
1. How did the Industrial Revolution change the lives of English
working people?
2. Does this experience seem comparable to what happened to workers
here in America?
3. Could a book like Charles Dickens's Oliver Twist be plausibly set
in America?
Nelsy Equihua
Dec 1, 2011, 7:12:46 PM12/1/11
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1. The industrial revolution caused many jobs to arise, and the
farmers living in the rural areas left them because of the enclosure
acts. The factories aroused to attention of people to move where there
were jobs and better places to live. Yet as more jobs developed more
people in need of them did too. Thus companies payed little wages for
extended periods of time that the people worked. Also children began
to be used to get more money. Children forced to help their families
were so exhausted that they would not attend school and therefore they
would lack an education.
2. It is comparable because in America children were used to get more
money when parents could not. Like the Act of 1833 in England, America
too made Child Labor Laws later on when they reached the point of
industrialization.
3. It could because Oliver is forced to be apprenticed and later on
almost sold away for 5 pounds.The difficult life Oliver is forced to
live is one that American children experience.
farmers living in the rural areas left them because of the enclosure
acts. The factories aroused to attention of people to move where there
were jobs and better places to live. Yet as more jobs developed more
people in need of them did too. Thus companies payed little wages for
extended periods of time that the people worked. Also children began
to be used to get more money. Children forced to help their families
were so exhausted that they would not attend school and therefore they
would lack an education.
2. It is comparable because in America children were used to get more
money when parents could not. Like the Act of 1833 in England, America
too made Child Labor Laws later on when they reached the point of
industrialization.
3. It could because Oliver is forced to be apprenticed and later on
almost sold away for 5 pounds.The difficult life Oliver is forced to
live is one that American children experience.
Danielle
Dec 1, 2011, 7:29:10 PM12/1/11
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1. i agree with nelsy. The industrial revolution changed the lives of
the english working ppl by basically giving them no life to be soical
and have fun and provided more jobs; they had to work more than 12 hr
shifts with 40 mins to an hour of break for food that they couldnt eat
so the industrial revoultion changed their lives by giving them about
the same amount of work with no much better conditions then previously
to the revolution.
2. It is comparable to america because in america childern to had to
work long hours that where more then 12 hr shifts getting little
breaks, and they too would get money mosty of the time more than their
parents.
3. A book could be set in america because america is a "baby" nation
that evolved from england so sense the conditions of working during
the industrial revolution are similar in englad and america to some
exent it is a plausible to be set in america.
the english working ppl by basically giving them no life to be soical
and have fun and provided more jobs; they had to work more than 12 hr
shifts with 40 mins to an hour of break for food that they couldnt eat
so the industrial revoultion changed their lives by giving them about
the same amount of work with no much better conditions then previously
to the revolution.
2. It is comparable to america because in america childern to had to
work long hours that where more then 12 hr shifts getting little
breaks, and they too would get money mosty of the time more than their
parents.
3. A book could be set in america because america is a "baby" nation
that evolved from england so sense the conditions of working during
the industrial revolution are similar in englad and america to some
exent it is a plausible to be set in america.
On Dec 1, 3:07 pm, "Matthew R. Giorgio" <matthew.r.gior...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Read the excerpts from the Lives of Industrial Workers (particularly
> the Saddler Report)http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
Roxanna
Dec 1, 2011, 9:01:57 PM12/1/11
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1) I agree with nelsy and Danielle in that the industrial revolution
extremely changed the lives of the English. to some extent, it helped
them; the revolution produced many new jobs, gave them better living
conditions, and allowed for upward movement in these jobs. However, it
also caused many problems. The revolution would transform conditions
to an inhuman extent. The English would now have to work 12-16 hours a
day. They were barley allowed to eat or even drink water. They were
pushed to the extent of having deformed, exhausted, and malnourished
bodies. Children, innocent and in very crucial stages of development,
were beaten and scared of their work. Parents were forced to heal and
tend to their chider’s wounds, fully aware that they were the ones
sending them, and that while they slept an hour more, their child was
running, terrified, to work. It caused fate to twist, and allow for
these very same, beaten children, to take on the occupation of beating
children the very way they were. The revolution truly changed the
lives of the English, and it continues to do so. 2) The experience the
English had was very similar to that of Americans latter on when they
went through the industrial revolution. Children would be sent to work
in factories at very young ages, and they would only have a very low
amount of education also. The factories were notoriously dangerous,
and though they were not beaten, the workers were constantly in
accidents. And they too had many opportunities to have work and work
their ways up, but it was just as twisted and worthless, for they
still had to work those 12, or more, hours a day. Parents still had to
watch their children go to work and watch them come back exhausted,
hurt, and hopeless. From a book I read, the jungle, it talked of how
women would be raped by the over lookers of the factories, of how the
man in slaughter house were easily traumatized and lived with the
dangers of the blades every day. Of how they would watch the children
turn as gloom and dead inside as they were. Yes, the industries were
different, but the results and the effects on the people were the same.
3) Charles Dickens’s "Oliver Twist" could easily be set in America. As
nelsy said, they tried to sell Oliver, a very south slavery idea, and
also along slavery ideas, they beat him. Oliver also ran away, and
what better place to run to than to the north? To where the industrial
revolution was producing many new opportunities and jobs? Also, there
in the large cities, pick pocketing must not have been uncommon,
right? The drama and mystery could also fit in the diverse and hectic
life of a northern industrialized city.
extremely changed the lives of the English. to some extent, it helped
them; the revolution produced many new jobs, gave them better living
conditions, and allowed for upward movement in these jobs. However, it
also caused many problems. The revolution would transform conditions
to an inhuman extent. The English would now have to work 12-16 hours a
day. They were barley allowed to eat or even drink water. They were
pushed to the extent of having deformed, exhausted, and malnourished
bodies. Children, innocent and in very crucial stages of development,
were beaten and scared of their work. Parents were forced to heal and
tend to their chider’s wounds, fully aware that they were the ones
sending them, and that while they slept an hour more, their child was
running, terrified, to work. It caused fate to twist, and allow for
these very same, beaten children, to take on the occupation of beating
children the very way they were. The revolution truly changed the
lives of the English, and it continues to do so. 2) The experience the
English had was very similar to that of Americans latter on when they
went through the industrial revolution. Children would be sent to work
in factories at very young ages, and they would only have a very low
amount of education also. The factories were notoriously dangerous,
and though they were not beaten, the workers were constantly in
accidents. And they too had many opportunities to have work and work
their ways up, but it was just as twisted and worthless, for they
still had to work those 12, or more, hours a day. Parents still had to
watch their children go to work and watch them come back exhausted,
hurt, and hopeless. From a book I read, the jungle, it talked of how
women would be raped by the over lookers of the factories, of how the
man in slaughter house were easily traumatized and lived with the
dangers of the blades every day. Of how they would watch the children
turn as gloom and dead inside as they were. Yes, the industries were
different, but the results and the effects on the people were the same.
3) Charles Dickens’s "Oliver Twist" could easily be set in America. As
nelsy said, they tried to sell Oliver, a very south slavery idea, and
also along slavery ideas, they beat him. Oliver also ran away, and
what better place to run to than to the north? To where the industrial
revolution was producing many new opportunities and jobs? Also, there
in the large cities, pick pocketing must not have been uncommon,
right? The drama and mystery could also fit in the diverse and hectic
life of a northern industrialized city.
On Dec 1, 3:07 pm, "Matthew R. Giorgio" <matthew.r.gior...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Read the excerpts from the Lives of Industrial Workers (particularly
> the Saddler Report)http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
cindy gonzaga
Dec 1, 2011, 9:11:05 PM12/1/11
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1)I agreed with nelsy, danielle, and roxanna the industrial revolution provided people with more jobs. People left their farms to go work in cities hoping that they will gain better wages, but the people didn't get paid that much. The kids had to work to help their parents, left school, and they also had to work long hours that the people would get punished if they arrived late to work.
2)It is comparable to America because the children also worked to help their parents. The people also moved from rural to urban areas to try to get a job.
3)It is plausible to some extend because America and England were similar in some ways. Since children had to work for a living, Oliver didn't
have nobody so he had to earn money some way to survive.
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Bobby Dillingham
Dec 1, 2011, 9:16:23 PM12/1/11
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1. I would agree with Danielle and Nelsy, and would like to add that
the Industrial Revolution instilled a commuting schedule to the
factory workers. Many people questioned in the accounts said that they
lived not close to their work. This rigid schedule, while greatly
organizing the lives of the factory workers, created a monotonous
lifestyle that formed the whole world of the workers. While the
factory owners increased their material wealth at a favorable rate,
the engines of their factories(workers) were left compete for what
little wealth that trickled from the owners by receiving minuscule
wages. The harsh treatment of the workers also made them
characteristically more harsh, as it can be seen with the worker who
was promoted to become an overseer at a factory and inflicted the same
punishments that he so greatly loathed. The long hours of work may
also have had an effect on the workers' beliefs since they worked even
on Saturday until late hours, they would be too fatigued to be closely
engaged with religious institutions.
2. It is almost identical to what occurred in the United States, as
it could be seen in Florence Kelley's speech of 1905 on child labor.
As Nelsy stated, similar legislation as that of the Act of 1833 was
passed to limit the number of working hours for children as well as
women such as the Walsh-Healey Act of 1936, which outlawed the
government to purchase goods produced by underage working children.
3. It is plausible that the setting for Charles Dickens' "Oliver
Twist" can be in the United States to the extent that the experience
of Oliver as a harshly treated, scorned boy could also occur in
America, where children were also harshly treated by factory overseers
and masters. However, the setting may unable to be in America for
trivial characteristics such as the involvement with London and the
currency being the pound are more closely related to England.
the Industrial Revolution instilled a commuting schedule to the
factory workers. Many people questioned in the accounts said that they
lived not close to their work. This rigid schedule, while greatly
organizing the lives of the factory workers, created a monotonous
lifestyle that formed the whole world of the workers. While the
factory owners increased their material wealth at a favorable rate,
the engines of their factories(workers) were left compete for what
little wealth that trickled from the owners by receiving minuscule
wages. The harsh treatment of the workers also made them
characteristically more harsh, as it can be seen with the worker who
was promoted to become an overseer at a factory and inflicted the same
punishments that he so greatly loathed. The long hours of work may
also have had an effect on the workers' beliefs since they worked even
on Saturday until late hours, they would be too fatigued to be closely
engaged with religious institutions.
2. It is almost identical to what occurred in the United States, as
it could be seen in Florence Kelley's speech of 1905 on child labor.
As Nelsy stated, similar legislation as that of the Act of 1833 was
passed to limit the number of working hours for children as well as
women such as the Walsh-Healey Act of 1936, which outlawed the
government to purchase goods produced by underage working children.
3. It is plausible that the setting for Charles Dickens' "Oliver
Twist" can be in the United States to the extent that the experience
of Oliver as a harshly treated, scorned boy could also occur in
America, where children were also harshly treated by factory overseers
and masters. However, the setting may unable to be in America for
trivial characteristics such as the involvement with London and the
currency being the pound are more closely related to England.
On Dec 1, 3:07 pm, "Matthew R. Giorgio" <matthew.r.gior...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Read the excerpts from the Lives of Industrial Workers (particularly
> the Saddler Report)http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
Edith Mata
Dec 1, 2011, 9:45:53 PM12/1/11
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1. The industrial revolution change the lives of English working people by setting jobs in the factories thus making people relocate to cities with jobs are around. Many of the children were forced to work because they were force to help their families making them miss school.
2. It does compare to what happened to workers here in America because the children still had to work and miss school.
3. The Charles Dickens's Oliver Twist can be plausibly set in America because the child in the story was force to work in harsh condition.
XxKingdroxX
Dec 2, 2011, 12:16:16 AM12/2/11
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1.The industrial revolution changed the lives of english working in a
big way because
people were constantly moving to cities where they could find work in
order to support
their families,children were treated much more harshly however because
they had to
sacrifice the most.Children being forced to miss school and having to
work at such a young
age should not have taken place but to the families,them working was a
"necessity."
big way because
people were constantly moving to cities where they could find work in
order to support
their families,children were treated much more harshly however because
they had to
sacrifice the most.Children being forced to miss school and having to
work at such a young
age should not have taken place but to the families,them working was a
"necessity."
2.It does seem comparable because America was originated from Britain
so they had
similar ideals when it came to them working in the factories or
mills.America
was influenced by Britain creating the industrial revolution everyone
was taking
ideas from them because people who worked in the factories had told
the countries they
were living in what it was like in the mills and factories of
Britain.Children had to work
just at the children did in Britain so in that sense it is also
comparable.
3.It could be plausibly set in America to some extent because children
had to work
under harsh conditions,and they were most likely punished like the
children
of Britain.Oliver is forced to work just as the children in Britain
were but he may have
had it harder simply because he did not really have anyone so he
needed to support himself.
Ruth Morales
Dec 2, 2011, 1:34:58 AM12/2/11
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1) I agree with nelsy and Danielle, the industrial revolution, was a difficult time for the industrial workers, they worked for long periods of time to receive small wages to feed their families and also confront the serious consequences. 2) I believe that this was similar to the workers in America since it had to do this and have hard working workers to help the nation rise in manufacture. 3) the book would have taken place in America because America's industry power back then was similar to England's.
simon g
Dec 2, 2011, 2:19:22 AM12/2/11
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1. The lives of the English people changed drastically-causing the
people to employ jobs which were hard and extensive. Many people
especially children became unhealthy because of the long work hours
which did not allow them to get enough rest and time to eat.
2. I agree with everyone else, the experience is comparable because
children also had to work extensively in America ....till they passed
child labor laws that is.
3. Possibly....it could plausible be set in America, i agree with
Pedro ,,to some extent ----- Oliver did have a difficult life with
labor and being alone(so he had to work even harder)...but then again,
America might not be the setting because the English people were also
experiencing this industrial related labor.
On Dec 1, 3:07 pm, "Matthew R. Giorgio" <matthew.r.gior...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Read the excerpts from the Lives of Industrial Workers (particularly
> the Saddler Report)http://faynights.users.btopenworld.com/Laura/Worker/index.html
Yoselin Cisneros
Dec 2, 2011, 12:13:30 PM12/2/11
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1. I agree with the comments above. The Industrial Revolution
changed the lives of English working people, because even though
it did brings jobs there pay was very low. Work places were harmful/
dangerous .
2. I do think that the experience is comparable to what happened in
America
because, the Industrial Revolution spread and it brought people to the
cities,
economic growth, and machines lowered the coast of production and that
would mean
mass production with cheaper prices.
3. I believe it could, because it describe the same working
conditions, and can be
compared to them. The cruelty in which they were treated is an
example.
changed the lives of English working people, because even though
it did brings jobs there pay was very low. Work places were harmful/
dangerous .
2. I do think that the experience is comparable to what happened in
America
because, the Industrial Revolution spread and it brought people to the
cities,
economic growth, and machines lowered the coast of production and that
would mean
mass production with cheaper prices.
3. I believe it could, because it describe the same working
conditions, and can be
compared to them. The cruelty in which they were treated is an
example.
Mary Falkenberg
Dec 2, 2011, 2:20:15 PM12/2/11
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1. I agree with Edith and Yoselin.
The Industrial made more employment for the English, but the working
conditions were
terrible, and they did not get paid that much money.There were even
child workers that had to leave school to
because thier parents would make extra money.
The Industrial made more employment for the English, but the working
conditions were
terrible, and they did not get paid that much money.There were even
child workers that had to leave school to
because thier parents would make extra money.
2. It is comparable because there were child workers in both
countries
and they had to stop going to school in order to work.
3. Yes it can, becasue in America the had children workers and they
worked in terrbile
conditions to make next to little money, and oliver twist was a poor
child in Dickens's book.
Nazeera Siddiqui
Dec 2, 2011, 2:20:17 PM12/2/11
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1. I agree with Nelsy. The industrial revolution did cause many jobs
to rise, and people then moved to the locations of factories. However,
children unfortunately lacked education because they were forced to
work. Also like Ruth mentioned, it was a hard time for everyone with
the tedious work and low wages.
2. This experience is comparable to what happened to workers in
America because children workers were needed in both countries and had
to work hard.
3. Oliver Twist had to live a difficult life so yes, it could be set
in America as some children faced harsh situations.
to rise, and people then moved to the locations of factories. However,
children unfortunately lacked education because they were forced to
work. Also like Ruth mentioned, it was a hard time for everyone with
the tedious work and low wages.
2. This experience is comparable to what happened to workers in
America because children workers were needed in both countries and had
to work hard.
3. Oliver Twist had to live a difficult life so yes, it could be set
in America as some children faced harsh situations.
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