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Steam

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:56:27 PM8/24/03
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Racunalo je spojeno na LAN (192.168.0.1) i dial-upom na internet.

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 161.53.114.135
161.53.114.145

Sve radi ok, ali ping i treaceroute ne. Dobijem ovo:

Pinging drava.etfos.hr [161.53.201.4] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.

Pinging oliver.efos.hr [161.53.202.3] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.

Tracing route to oliver.efos.hr [161.53.202.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 927 ms 993 ms 1006 ms cmung1399.cmu.carnet.hr
[193.198.133.129]
2 cmung1399.cmu.carnet.hr [193.198.133.129] reports: Destination
net unreachable.
Trace complete.

U cemu je problem?!?

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Ivica Glavocic

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:50:48 AM8/25/03
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Steam je izjavio slijedece:

> Racunalo je spojeno na LAN (192.168.0.1) i dial-upom na internet.
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 161.53.114.135
> 161.53.114.145
> Sve radi ok, ali ping i treaceroute ne. Dobijem ovo:
> Pinging drava.etfos.hr [161.53.201.4] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.

> Pinging oliver.efos.hr [161.53.202.3] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.

Otpilio te je router ili access server izmedu tebe i tih servera. Moguce je
da su u tom trenutku serveri bili dole ili je aktivan packet filtering koji
ti ne dozvoljava pinganje i traceroute-anje prema serverima. Obzirom da su
to javni modemski ulazi carnet-a, ovo posljednje me ne bi zacudilo nimalo.
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Ivica

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Goran Sliskovic

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:09:08 AM8/25/03
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"Steam" <st...@PROTECThi.IONhinet.hr> wrote in message
news:0gfikvke304fmerhu...@4ax.com...

> Racunalo je spojeno na LAN (192.168.0.1) i dial-upom na internet.
>
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 193.198.133.165
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 161.53.114.135
> 161.53.114.145
>
> Sve radi ok, ali ping i treaceroute ne. Dobijem ovo:
>
> Pinging drava.etfos.hr [161.53.201.4] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 193.198.133.129: Destination net unreachable.
...
> U cemu je problem?!?
>

U tome da ti je provider vjerojatno odsjekao ICMP pakete. Eto, meni radi :)
...
4 <10 ms 16 ms 16 ms rdr11-gdr01-ge.net.hinet.hr [195.29.252.186]
5 16 ms 31 ms 16 ms dtag-vienna-ht-1.net.hinet.hr
[195.29.252.218]
6 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms F-EB1.F.DE.net.dtag.de [62.154.17.138]
7 31 ms 47 ms 31 ms 62.156.139.114
8 31 ms 31 ms 47 ms ffm-b2-pos2-0.telia.net [213.248.68.170]
9 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms dante-01232-ffm-b2.c.telia.net
[213.248.77.90]
10 31 ms 32 ms 46 ms de1-1.de2.de.geant.net [62.40.96.130]
11 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms de.at1.at.geant.net [62.40.96.5]
12 47 ms 62 ms 47 ms at.hr1.hr.geant.net [62.40.96.162]
13 47 ms 63 ms 47 ms carnet2-gw.hr1.hr.geant.net [62.40.103.206]
14 47 ms 62 ms 63 ms etfos1-ro.CB4.CARNet.hr [161.53.113.81]
15 46 ms 63 ms 62 ms drava.etfos.hr [161.53.201.4]

Goran


Steam

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Aug 25, 2003, 10:51:28 AM8/25/03
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In <bict6p$bk0$1...@ls219.htnet.hr>, Ivica Glavocic wrote:

>Otpilio te je router ili access server izmedu tebe i tih servera. Moguce je
>da su u tom trenutku serveri bili dole ili je aktivan packet filtering koji
>ti ne dozvoljava pinganje i traceroute-anje prema serverima. Obzirom da su
>to javni modemski ulazi carnet-a, ovo posljednje me ne bi zacudilo nimalo.

Ne, nije do CARNeta. Ping daje isti ili slican rezultat bez obzira sto
pingam na internetu. Ping normalno radi samo za LAN.
I cini mi se da je to pocelo nakon instalacije Zone Alarma. Dogadja se
iako sam pingu dopustio access na internet. Sto da pokusam
prekonfigurirati u ZA?

Ivica Glavocic

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Aug 25, 2003, 2:09:04 PM8/25/03
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Steam je izjavio slijedece:

Onda si otpilio sam sebe. Provjeri konfiguraciju firewall-a, posebno pravila
za ICMP pakete.

Goran Sliskovic

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Aug 25, 2003, 4:05:16 PM8/25/03
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"Steam" <st...@PROTECThi.IONhinet.hr> wrote in message
news:mk0kkvsame57jsl8e...@4ax.com...

> In <bict6p$bk0$1...@ls219.htnet.hr>, Ivica Glavocic wrote:
>
...

> Ne, nije do CARNeta. Ping daje isti ili slican rezultat bez obzira sto
> pingam na internetu. Ping normalno radi samo za LAN.
> I cini mi se da je to pocelo nakon instalacije Zone Alarma. Dogadja se
> iako sam pingu dopustio access na internet. Sto da pokusam
> prekonfigurirati u ZA?
>

Tebe je otpilio router na adresi 193.198.133.129 iliti
cmung1435.cmu.carnet.hr, sto god to bilo... Znaci iza njega nista ne mozes
pingat, a to ti je drugi hop...

Goran


Steam

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Aug 25, 2003, 5:07:14 PM8/25/03
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In <bidq5m$9gm$1...@fegnews.vip.hr>, Goran Sliskovic wrote:

>Tebe je otpilio router na adresi 193.198.133.129 iliti
>cmung1435.cmu.carnet.hr, sto god to bilo... Znaci iza njega nista ne mozes
>pingat, a to ti je drugi hop...

Dogadja se bez obzira je li ZA aktivan ili ne.
Sada je sporni IP na kojemu zapinje 193.198.142.1

Steam

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:16:54 PM8/25/03
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In <egukkvo3vur108t7r...@4ax.com>, Steam wrote:

>>Tebe je otpilio router na adresi 193.198.133.129 iliti
>>cmung1435.cmu.carnet.hr, sto god to bilo... Znaci iza njega nista ne mozes
>>pingat, a to ti je drugi hop...
>
>Dogadja se bez obzira je li ZA aktivan ili ne.
>Sada je sporni IP na kojemu zapinje 193.198.142.1

UPDATE:
Kada se spojim na HTNet, ping i traceroute rade normalno. Znaci, ipak
je do CARNeta. Samo bih volio da jos netko s CMU proba pingati
navedene siteove pa mi javi rezultat.

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Steam

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Aug 26, 2003, 9:05:01 AM8/26/03
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In <krukkv460usnn788t...@4ax.com>, Steam wrote:

>UPDATE:
>Kada se spojim na HTNet, ping i traceroute rade normalno. Znaci, ipak
>je do CARNeta. Samo bih volio da jos netko s CMU proba pingati
>navedene siteove pa mi javi rezultat.

UPDATE:
Odgovor Helpdeska:
"problem je u tome sto je uslijed problema s crvima
u posljednje vrijeme, privremeno zabranjen ping na
pristupnim modemskim suceljima."
Diskusija zavrsena, hvala svima. :)

Tomislav Raseta

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Aug 26, 2003, 9:41:43 AM8/26/03
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Steam <st...@PROTECThi.IONhinet.hr> wrote:
> In <bidq5m$9gm$1...@fegnews.vip.hr>, Goran Sliskovic wrote:
>
>>Tebe je otpilio router na adresi 193.198.133.129 iliti
>>cmung1435.cmu.carnet.hr, sto god to bilo... Znaci iza njega nista ne mozes
>>pingat, a to ti je drugi hop...
>
> Dogadja se bez obzira je li ZA aktivan ili ne.
> Sada je sporni IP na kojemu zapinje 193.198.142.1

Been there, done that. Potpuno deinstaliraj ZA i onda probaj..

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Tomislav Raseta
UIN: 2809357

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