Eee PC s101
Barry
my request for help.
I bought an EeePC (version s101) back when it first came out here in
Taiwan with hopes to one day run Mac OS. I am constantly on the run
back and forth between two cities (2 hour commute) and need a really
light laptop. I have been searching for advice on getting Mac OS on
this machine through Google but without much luck. I am wondering if
anyone out there that has been doing this work with similar models or
with other Eee PC setups could give me some advice on where I should
start?
Actually learning more about Hackintosh machines is also my goal. I'd
like to help my younger sister out the next time I get to the States
and install Mac OS on her old Dell. That's one of the big reasons for
my joining this group. Thanks...
mosslack
Welcome to the group. I just checked the specs of the system you have
and it appears to be very hackable. You didn't say whether or not you
want to dual boot with Windows or not, so a lot depends on that. I
believe the best course of action is to use the NetbookBootmaker to
install Snow Leopard on your system, but again, a lot depends on whether
or not you want to save your Windows XP install which I assume is what
you have on the system now.
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Barry
Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, I read some things about the s101 on
line but i was hoping that someone out there had created a guide for
the install. From what I have read about OS 10.5 installs that there
are a few things that need to be tweaked but from what I have found on
Netbook Installer guides for Snow Leopard it seems there may be less
problems. My iMac G5 has the highest version of OS that is
available. There isn't any program I need for Windows XP (yes,
that's what is currently installed).
Do you recommend a certain set of directions for the Netbook
installer? From what I have read it seems I will need to switch out
the wireless card on this model since the Mac OS will not recognize
it. I guess the next step is for me to get a copy of the Leopard CDs.
mosslack
> mosslack,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, I read some things about the s101 on
> line but i was hoping that someone out there had created a guide for
> the install. From what I have read about OS 10.5 installs that there
> are a few things that need to be tweaked but from what I have found on
> Netbook Installer guides for Snow Leopard it seems there may be less
> problems. My iMac G5 has the highest version of OS that is
> available. There isn't any program I need for Windows XP (yes,
> that's what is currently installed).
>
> Do you recommend a certain set of directions for the Netbook
> installer? From what I have read it seems I will need to switch out
> the wireless card on this model since the Mac OS will not recognize
> it. I guess the next step is for me to get a copy of the Leopard CDs.
>
As I said, the specs are very close to a number of other netbooks, so
much so that my advice is to get a copy of the Snow Leopard DVD and just
use the NetbookBootMaker to install it with. You will need an 8 Gb or
larger bootable flash drive, but the rest should be provided by NBBM.
You can use my guide here:
http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/installing-snow-leopard-on-a-usb-flash-drive
to install Snow Leopard on the flash drive. Then just run the NBBM app
on a system Mac or Hack running 10.6.x, choosing the flash drive as the
target. Once that is done, just boot your netbook from the flash drive
and install Snow Leopard onto your hard drive. That is pretty much it
as NBBM installs NBI on the hard drive and it should boot on it's own
after that.
You can use my Neutrino guide if you want, it's located here:
http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/ocz-neutrino-10-5-install-guide-w-update-to-10-6
and skip down to the 10.6 Update section. Let me know how it goes.
mosslack
Forgot to mention, be sure to use the latest NBBM available here:
http://code.google.com/p/netbook-installer/
I think the latest is 0.8.4 RC1
Barry
> Barry wrote:
> > mosslack,
>
> > Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, I read some things about the s101 on
> > line but i was hoping that someone out there had created a guide for
> > the install. From what I have read about OS 10.5 installs that there
> > are a few things that need to be tweaked but from what I have found on
> > Netbook Installer guides for Snow Leopard it seems there may be less
> > problems. My iMac G5 has the highest version of OS that is
> > available. There isn't any program I need for Windows XP (yes,
> > that's what is currently installed).
>
> > Do you recommend a certain set of directions for the Netbook
> > installer? From what I have read it seems I will need to switch out
> > the wireless card on this model since the Mac OS will not recognize
> > it. I guess the next step is for me to get a copy ofthe LeopardCDs.
>
> As I said, the specs are very close to a number of other netbooks, so
> much so that my advice is to get a copy of the Snow Leopard DVD and just
> use the NetbookBootMaker to install it with. You will need an 8 Gb or
> larger bootable flash drive, but the rest should be provided by NBBM.
> You can use my guide here:
>
Hello again,
I have been away for a few days and not had time to check the group.
Thanks for all the advice. This step seems fairly simple to me. I
had also previously found a guide here at: http://osx.mechdrew.com/guides/nbi1.shtml
I do have a question about the Snow Leopard DVD that are sold on
Apple's website. Is the version of the disc that Apple sells a
complete install or only and upgrade from 10.5? It seems from what I
have seen it's only an upgrade from MacOS X v. 10.5, is that true or
does it contain the full install?
Also, I should be able to do all this on my iMac with 10.5.8, correct?
> to install Snow Leopard on the flash drive. Then just run the NBBM app
> as NBBM installs NBI on the hard drive and it should boot on it's own
> after that.
>
> You can use my Neutrino guide if you want, it's located here:
>
> and skip down to the 10.6 Update section. Let me know how it goes.
Atom processor. My netbook has an Atom processor. Does that mean
that I would not be able to install onto my machine?
I hope to be able to start work on this project next week or the
following. During that time I will have a couple of weeks free to
play around. :)
Peter Haas
On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Barry wrote:
> I do have a question about the Snow Leopard DVD that are sold on
> Apple's website. Is the version of the disc that Apple sells a
> complete install or only and upgrade from 10.5? It seems from what I
> have seen it's only an upgrade from MacOS X v. 10.5, is that true or
> does it contain the full install?
>
Although Apple advertised it, and sold it as an upgrade, the DVD
which you can buy at retail outlets everywhere is indeed a full
version, valid for every Apple system which officially supports Snow
Leopard, and as our luck would have it, is also valid for every non-
Apple system which unofficially supports it.
It is the "buy with" DVDs which only work on the systems with which
they are sold.
> Also, I should be able to do all this on my iMac with 10.5.8, correct?
Definitely.
The various manipulations of the packages may be done on Leo.
The "Make USB flash drive bootable" may also be done on Leo.
mosslack
Ditto to everything PH said, with one possible exception. Since I
started doing netbooks with my lowly Neutrino, it has always been
acceptable to use 10.5.x to prepare the USB flash drive, both to
restore Snow Leopard to it and to run the installer to make it
bootable. However, this changed with the Asus 1201N, as preparing to
make the flash drive bootable MUST BE DONE ON A SYSTEM RUNNING 10.6.x!
I only mention this as your system is indeed an Asus Eee PC, so if you
run into any problems with the install this might be a clue as to the
problem source. HTH
mosslack
On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:08 PM, mosslack wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Peter Haas wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Barry wrote:
>>
>>> I do have a question about the Snow Leopard DVD that are sold on
>>> Apple's website. Is the version of the disc that Apple sells a
>>> complete install or only and upgrade from 10.5? It seems from
>>> what I
>>> have seen it's only an upgrade from MacOS X v. 10.5, is that true or
>>> does it contain the full install?
>>>
>>
>> Although Apple advertised it, and sold it as an upgrade, the DVD
>> which you can buy at retail outlets everywhere is indeed a full
>> version, valid for every Apple system which officially supports
>> Snow Leopard, and as our luck would have it, is also valid for
>> every non-Apple system which unofficially supports it.
>>
>> It is the "buy with" DVDs which only work on the systems with which
>> they are sold.
>>
>>
>>> Also, I should be able to do all this on my iMac with 10.5.8,
>>> correct?
>>
>> Definitely.
>>
>> The various manipulations of the packages may be done on Leo.
>>
>> The "Make USB flash drive bootable" may also be done on Leo.
>
> Ditto to everything PH said, with one possible exception. Since I
> started doing netbooks with my lowly Neutrino, it has always been
> acceptable to use 10.5.x to prepare the USB flash drive, both to
> restore Snow Leopard to it and to run the installer to make it
> bootable. However, this changed with the Asus 1201N, as preparing
> to make the flash drive bootable MUST BE DONE ON A SYSTEM RUNNING
> 10.6.x!
>
> I only mention this as your system is indeed an Asus Eee PC, so if
> you run into any problems with the install this might be a clue as
> to the problem source. HTH
Another thought just occurred to me, if you purchase a new Snow
Leopard retail DVD, more than likely it will be a version past the
10.6.0 that were used for most of the guides. This will alter the
install method somewhat as I mentioned Atom powered netbooks have no
support after 10.6.1. Most of the guides compensate for this by using
the auto patching version of Chameleon, which allows the boot utility
to patch the kernel on the fly.
So if you use one of the later install DVD's, be sure the version of
Chameleon you use to reboot after installing Snow Leopard to the hard
drive is capable of patching the kernel on the fly. Otherwise you
will get a KP and the system will not boot.
Barry
Today I went to an Apple resale shop here in Taiwan (I am not sure if
I told you I live in Taiwan but I'm originally from the US) to buy a
copy of Snow Leopard instead of ordering it from the Apple website.
It's the same price as the Apple website but without having to wait to
have it shipped. It seems I have purchase version 10.6.3 (although
the empty box they had on display was 10.6). The woman that sold it
to me kept asking me too many questions and she wanted to know what
computer I had and what version of OS I had because she kept saying
that it was only an upgrade but I also do not believe it "only an
upgrade." I told her "Oh it's marked as 'upgrade' but it should have
the entire version on the disc" and she seemed aggravated at me and
then said "I don't know. Whatever you say?" of which I said "You
should know since you work here." I really felt as if she were trying
to figure out if I was trying to install the OS on a non-Apple product
with all the questions. Anyway, I purchased the disc and I will give
everything a go on either the 9th or 10th of August since I am away
from my Mac at the moment (I am in a different city).
Now I am wondering how I can determine if the version of Chameleon is
able to patch the kernel on the fly?
Again thanks for all the guidance; this group has been very tolerable
of my ignorance on the topic.
Peter Haas
On Jul 30, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Barry wrote:
> It seems I have purchase version 10.6.3 (although
> the empty box they had on display was 10.6). The woman that sold it
> to me kept asking me too many questions and she wanted to know what
> computer I had and what version of OS I had because she kept saying
> that it was only an upgrade but I also do not believe it "only an
> upgrade."
Apple has been shipping 10.6.4 "upgrade" DVDs, but these are really
"full retail" DVDs, IF you purchased it at retail.
> I told her "Oh it's marked as 'upgrade' but it should have
> the entire version on the disc" and she seemed aggravated at me and
> then said "I don't know. Whatever you say?" of which I said "You
> should know since you work here." I really felt as if she were trying
> to figure out if I was trying to install the OS on a non-Apple product
> with all the questions.
I strongly suspect she's not well-trained, and just wanted to avoid
having a dissatisfied customer.
Any Apple product which came with 10.6 (AKA, 10.6.0) or 10.6.3 can
run 10.6.4, by definition.
However, not any Hack can run 10.6.4, or even 10.6.3, if it can run
10.6, 10.6.1 or 10.6.2.
10.6.3 "breaks" a lot of things, most particularly sound.
And, indeed, there is a 10.6.3.1 out there, and it came with certain
i-series Macs.
It is 10.6.3.1 which added-in support for the i3 processor, which
Apple was not then shipping, AFAIK.
However, Apple IS shipping i3 processors now.
If at all possible, get to 10.6.4, but at least do it in a relatively
painless way.
I have detailed all the steps which are necessary on Shuttles,
certainly including SP35 and SG31 systems, and possibly also SG41
systems.
The necessity for going from 10.6 to 10.6.2 as an intermediate step
is so the AppleHDA.kext of 10.6.2 can be captured and saved in a safe
place as it will be needed in 10.6.3 and 10.6.4.
The subsequent updates to 10.6.3 and 10.6.4 are required because the
sleep enabler changed with 10.6.3, and it changed again in 10.6.4,
although if you install the 10.6.x version of sleep enabler, then you
don't have to change it for 10.6.4, all you have to do is add the
pmVersion=20 boot flag.
mosslack
As Peter stated, the woman was probably not well-trained, so don't worry about that. The upgrade DVD IS a full retail install DVD and it will work just fine.
As for your concern over the version of your DVD, I think perhaps Peter didn't realize you were installing on a netbook with an Atom processor, which is why he didn't mention it. The guy who did the auto-patching is Meklort and you can read what he had to say about it here:
Basically you should be fine if you use the NBBM/NBI version 0.8.4 RC1or later. Again just keep in mind that the netbook won't boot a vanilla kernel above 10.6.1. If you run into problems just give us a shout.
Peter Haas
On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:18 AM, mosslack wrote:
> Again just keep in mind that the netbook won't boot a vanilla
> kernel above 10.6.1.
Indeed so.
Sorry ... I am overly tired today, and did not catch the drift that
this was a Netbook install.
Barry
try out getting SL on my Eee PC s101. I had read that I could just
burn the netbook installer to disc, thus creating a bootable disc
without the necessity of creating the USB install. I went through the
process to create the disc, got the s101 booted, swapped out the disc
for the SL DVD install disc, tried to boot from the disc. The gray
apple icon appeared...and then Kernal panic. I followed the guide at:
http://osx.mechdrew.com/guides/nbi3.shtml
So I didn't even make it to the installation yet. I have a USB handy
but I'm wondering after creating the USB version will I just get the
same result?
I can post some photos of the screen if needed.
I feel I am getting hit with a double whammy right now. My old iMac
G5 is experiencing problems with the video and after reading some
forum's on Apple's website, it seems my iMac G5 is nearing the end of
it's life.
Barry
happened to me but I used the latest version, so would this still be
the problem for me?
Barry
should do. I am getting bummed too about my iMac G5 but I think it's
fine. If I really cannot get my iMac to work if I need it to create
the USB I can get access of my friend's machine.
Barry
but I could not. I have tried booting the Netbook Maker disc without
problems and then switching to the Mac OS 10.6.3 disc. When I then
try to run the disc I get a kernel panic. So then I tried the USB
route with netbook maker. I could not do this on my own mac because I
do not own an intel mac, so I had to borrow a friends. I tried it and
I cannot get my Eee PC s101 to boot up with the USB. I changed the
BIOS to boot to the removable drive first but it doesn't recognize it
and allow me to boot. I heard that some people boot from the SD card
so I even tried to create a disc with the SD card but also no dice, it
doesn't work. I don't really know what I am doing wrong. I tried
booting with the netbook CD then switching to the USB but I get the
same kernel panic as I do if I just switch out the netbook CD with the
SL disc.
Am I doing something obviously wrong? So sad...
Midnight rider
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dump that I get:
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x2a96f6): "Version mis-match between Kernel and
CPU PM"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1504.3.12/osfmk/i386/pmCPU.c:720
Debugger called: <panic>
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : return Address (4 potential args on stack)
Ox1e423bb8 : 0x21b449 (0x5ce420 0x1e423bec 0x2238a5 0x0)
....more of the similar....
Kernel Extensions is backtrac... (can't see for the Apple
multilingual area message box telling me to restart my computer)
sk.triaxis.kext.SleepEnabl.....
BSD process name corresponding to c.....
Mac OS version:
Not yet set
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernal Version 10.3.0: Fri ........
System model name: S101 (S101)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 1465269432
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Barry
for installing the kernel patch.
Peter Haas
On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Barry wrote:
> panic(cpu 0 caller 0x2a96f6): "Version mis-match between Kernel and
> CPU PM"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1504.3.12/osfmk/i386/pmCPU.c:720
> Debugger called: <panic>
> Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : return Address (4 potential args on stack)
> Ox1e423bb8 : 0x21b449 (0x5ce420 0x1e423bec 0x2238a5 0x0)
Typical problem with Intel Atom CPUs.
You have to have the right installer to get around that issue.
Midnight rider
Christian Wacker
Second, you just need a kernel patched for Atom processors... I can't
Google for it right now, but you prolly can.
What version of the SL disk do you have? 10.6.?
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Peter Haas
On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Midnight rider wrote:
> oh wow so you're saying I have to dig around google to find a
> "CORRECT" SL installer for my netbook?
The NetBook Installer (NBI) which I used for my OCZ Neutrino DID NOT
KNOW about my Neutrino, per se, but it DID KNOW about a generic
Netbook installation method, and it did indeed use that method on my
Neutrino.
I had no issues with it.
> If there is a patch, where can I download it to install Mac OS X SL
> vanilla?
>
I DO NOT believe it is as simple as a "patch".
The Intel Atom processor behaves in every way as if it were a Core 2
processor ... EXCEPT for the power management functions, which, for
it, requires special considerations, and which the NBI does indeed
provide.
So, no reason to patch the kernel.
However, the appropriate power manager kext is expected, and is
required.
Incidentally, you WILL get that very same PM kernel panic when going
from one release to the next on a desktop Hack. But, the
circumventions are a LOT simpler for desktop Hacks than they are for
NetBook Hacks.
That having been said, I tend to follow Mosslack's advise on
NetBooks, although I feel pretty comfortable "going it alone" on my
desktops, including even H55/P55 desktops.
I am afraid that my mainframe computer orientation is showing, as I
really only use Laptops/Netbooks in a very limited way.
Peter ...
... proud to be a mainframe computer hacker since 1963 ... YES, 1963.
Midnight rider
Peter Haas
On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Midnight rider wrote:
> Well, my install disk has a picture of a snow leopard's head on it
> looking at me and on the other side it says Mac OS X version 10.6.
The true installation DVD is a LOT more forgiving than is the actual
installed OS.
Just because it says "10.6" DOES NOT mean it is actually 10.6.
While the initial distributions of Snow Leopard (marketed as an
"upgrade", although we all know ... or SHOULD KNOW by now ... that it
is indeed a full installation DVD, and which requires NO previous
MacOS X installation, although it will certainly tolerate such an
installation) was indeed 10.6 (AKA, 10.6.0), there was/were
subsequent DVDs, which were also marketed as "upgrade" DVDs, but
which were actually 10.6.2. Possibly also 10.6.3.
My only DVD is a 10.6 (AKA, 10.6.0) DVD, and ALL my comments are with
respect to that particular DVD.
It is 10.6.3 which "breaks" a bunch of stuff on Hacks (usually sound,
but sometimes much more), and 10.6.4 "breaks" additional stuff.
What Apple isn't saying ... much, anyway ... is that there was a
10.6.3.1 release, and which special release was intended to address
several forthcoming i-series processors.
Kris Tilford
> Am I doing something obviously wrong?
Have you updated the BIOS? There are 13 BIOS updates listed for the
s101, version 1504 is the current version. The various fixes listed
include some of the problems you might be encountering, so this might
be a good place to start if you're still using an older BIOS version?:
<http://support.asus.com/download/download_item_mkt.aspx?slanguage=en-us&model=Eee%20PC%20S101/XP
>
I don't know exactly what you're doing, but I'd strongly recommend
using a GUID partition format (also called GPT) rather than the Master
Boot Record format it came with. This would require you reformat your
HD before installation, and use of Chameleon bootloader if you're
looking for a multi-system boot setup.
I think this Eee s101 should work nearly perfectly with OS X, so I'd
probably recommend NOT installing WinXP, Ubuntu, etc. unless you feel
you absolutely need them. You might consider installing Leopard 10.5.8
instead of Snow Leopard. The advantages of Snow Leopard are few in my
opinion, and the hassles are a tiny bit more, but not too much, so
it's really up to you. I believe the latest versions of Chameleon
bootloader patch the kernel for the Atom CPU "on-the-fly" so that
special kernels are no longer needed? I'm not totally up-to-speed for
Snow Leopard on these netbooks, my MSI Wind U100 is still 10.5.8 and
working absolutely perfectly.
mosslack
http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/installing-snow-leopard-on-a-usb-flash-drive
Or similar. Once it has been restored to the flash drive, you need to use an actual Mac or Hack system to run the above listed version of NBBM and select the flash drive you restored the DVD to as the target.
Having said that, I don't own this particular netbook, but all indications are it should be able to boot from a USB device, provided (1) the device is bootable and (2) you select this as the boot device. No one has mentioned how to get the boot menu to come up for this netbook, on my Asus 1201N, you hit ESC as soon as you power up the unit to bring up the boot menu. Some system use a difference key sequence, find out how to do that on your netbook.
If for some reason you cannot get your netbook to boot via a USB device, it may not be possible to install OS X on your unit. HTH
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Barry
know how to install it. Even though simple directions are given but
since I don't know much about what I am doing, it doesn't help me.
Here is the link:
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=a505fe9c4b9da42a1da79a426ace3454&showtopic=197020&pid=1326982&mode=threaded&start=#entry1326982
Barry
using the boot from http://osx.mechdrew.com/guides/ (install method
3). I purchased this retail 10.6.3 hoping that I could get it on my
netbook but feel a bit frustrated now. :( I would be happy getting
10.5 on there. That would satisfy me.
Barry
a bootloader as well. Actually on my s101 that is the only way I get
to even try the system to read the install disc. That's when I get
the kernel panic. I don't want Windows on the computer any longer. I
would just want to keep the Mac OS if I could get it on the SSD.
On Aug 12, 3:43 am, Kris Tilford <ktilfo...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Barry wrote:
>
> > Am I doing something obviously wrong?
>
> Have you updated the BIOS? There are 13 BIOS updates listed for the
> s101, version 1504 is the current version. The various fixes listed
> include some of the problems you might be encountering, so this might
> be a good place to start if you're still using an older BIOS version?:
>
Barry
with the prepared flash disc. I am not sure what the problem is. I
know others have gotten Mac OS on their s101 because I have seen a few
videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRu7MdF7UHQ
I also borrowed my friend's Mac in order to prepare the disc...but
still no dice. I guess I 'll keep trying for a couple more days.
On Aug 12, 3:50 am, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Although I have not tried it, (b/c my install DVD is 10.6.0), it should be possible to use Meklort's NetbookBootMaker version 0.8.4 RC1 or later to boot the 10.6.3 install DVD. This version uses auto-patching on the fly for the Atom processor. In order to use this though, it MUST be done using an 8 Gb or larger bootable flash drive. The install DVD is restored to the flash drive using this guide:
>
> Or similar. Once it has been restored to the flash drive, you need to use an actual Mac or Hack system to run the above listed version of NBBM and select the flash drive you restored the DVD to as the target.
>
> Having said that, I don't own this particular netbook, but all indications are it should be able to boot from a USB device, provided (1) the device is bootable and (2) you select this as the boot device. No one has mentioned how to get the boot menu to come up for this netbook, on my Asus 1201N, you hit ESC as soon as you power up the unit to bring up the boot menu. Some system use a difference key sequence, find out how to do that on your netbook.
>
> If for some reason you cannot get your netbook to boot via a USB device, it may not be possible to install OS X on your unit. HTH
>
> Just a message from mosslack...
>
Peter Haas
On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Barry wrote:
> I found a patch link on Insanely Mac, but I'm too much of a novice to
> know how to install it.
Copy it to the root of the boot drive and include its name in
com.apple.Boot.plist.