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Ondrej Certik

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Aug 7, 2009, 2:42:23 PM8/7/09
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Hi,

currently the title of the hpfem.org pages read:

hpfem.org: free adaptive hp-FEM

I would maybe use:

hpfem.org: open source adaptive hp-FEM

because I don't like the word "free". It very much depends on your
interpretation of "free", and for example in my interpretation the GPL
license of hermes is not truly free (for example if I base my work on
hermes, I am not free to choose the license that I want). However, if
we say "open source", then it's clear what it means.

Just an idea.

Ondrej

Pavel Solin

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Aug 7, 2009, 5:14:09 PM8/7/09
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Hi,

> When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price.
> Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have
> the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them
> if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it,
> that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs,
> and that you know you can do these things.

I still like "free", but "open source" is acceptable as well. What do the
others think?

Pavel
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Ondrej Certik

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Aug 9, 2009, 5:46:36 PM8/9/09
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Pavel Solin<so...@unr.edu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price.
>> Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have
>> the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them
>> if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it,
>> that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs,
>> and that you know you can do these things.
>
> I still like "free", but "open source" is acceptable as well. What do the
> others think?

In fact, what you quoted from the GPL license is exactly what I don't
like, because it says that I have the "freedom" to "use pieces of it
in new free programs", but I think it's not true, because I can't use
it in my free program, licensed under some other opensource license
from http://opensource.org/. I can only use it as long as my own code
that links to hermes is GPL.

However, I just asked a (native speaking) friend, to him the word
"free" evokes something like "free food", e.g. referring to price, not
freedom. And then it's perfectly fine with me.

Anyway, this is minor, so I am fine either way now.

Ondrej

Pavel Solin

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Aug 9, 2009, 11:07:00 PM8/9/09
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Hi Ondrej,
  I am flexible with the title as well. No one else expressed any
opinion, so let's leave it for now, we can always change it later.
And what about "hpfem.org" - do you like this part? This sounds
like we are the center of universe for the hp-FEM.

Pavel

Ondrej Certik

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Aug 10, 2009, 12:59:47 AM8/10/09
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Pavel Solin<so...@unr.edu> wrote:
> Hi Ondrej,
>   I am flexible with the title as well. No one else expressed any
> opinion, so let's leave it for now, we can always change it later.

Sure.

> And what about "hpfem.org" - do you like this part? This sounds
> like we are the center of universe for the hp-FEM.

Yes, I like that part. :) It means, we need to work very hard every
day, to earn that title.

Ondra

Pavel Solin

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Aug 10, 2009, 1:04:30 AM8/10/09
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+1


Ondra


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